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Barse
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12/30/2016
Yes she will - as long as she purchases an EF before the last Thursday of January, to be exact, this story will be available.

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John Moose
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12/31/2016
I loved this story. The pacing was well done, and unlike some ES'es it didn't feel like it was over too soon (partially because of all the time spent re-reading my own echoes.) It's lovely to finally get some insight into Moloch Street and Hell, and I aprreciated having an obscure bit of lore dangled in front of me at the price of saving souls from damnation. Of course, like a good little lore hamster, I ran down the gorge at the first chance.

The writing was great, and I'd really like to congratulate the writer for it. All the characters felt interesting and I felt personally invested in their outcomes, wishing the murderer good riddance on their way and getting quite the satisfaction from denying Hell their little plaything. I'm very tempted to join the chorus of "best ES", admittedly partly because I'm currently having a bit of a Hell-mania which this ES coincided with very well.

Criticism: I wish we would have gotten a chance to point out the killer, and be punished for getting it wrong. I had a page of scribbled notes to make sure i'd get it right, so it was a bit disappointing to just be railroaded through the reveal. Not that I didn't still enjoy the scene.

PS: My stats barely changed, and I'm relatively sure any change was downwards. You lucky devils.
PPS: Am I the only one who suspected the conductor? I mean, that announcement still seems ridiculously suspicious to me.
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Akernis
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12/31/2016
John Moose wrote:

Criticism: I wish we would have gotten a chance to point out the killer, and be punished for getting it wrong.
edited by John Moose on 12/31/2016

That seems to be a shared sentiment from many, but for those of us who may not be the best at the intricate guessing and deduction game that is detective work it was quite a relief I didn't have to be punished for something I as a player just may not have been the most suited for.

I would suggest an "All shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well." Option, like in the Seven-Day-Reign and Flint. So those who wanted to try their hand at the detective work with more 'real' consequences can do that, and those who would just enjoy the story don't have to stress about having forgotten some obscure detail.
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suinicide
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12/31/2016
Akernis wrote:
John Moose wrote:

Criticism: I wish we would have gotten a chance to point out the killer, and be punished for getting it wrong.
edited by John Moose on 12/31/2016

That seems to be a shared sentiment from many, but for those of us who may not be the best at the intricate guessing and deduction game that is detective work it was quite a relief I didn't have to be punished for something I as a player just may not have been the most suited for.

I would suggest an &quotAll shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.&quot Option, like in the Seven-Day-Reign and Flint. So those who wanted to try their hand at the detective work with more 'real' consequences can do that, and those who would just enjoy the story don't have to stress about having forgotten some obscure detail.
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edited by Akernis on 12/31/2016


We also could have done the &quotguess who did it&quot but if you guessed wrong your character would add on why the person couldn't have done it, like it already does, but giving the player control.
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Frederick Metzengerstein
Frederick Metzengerstein
Posts: 69

12/31/2016
Scienceandponies wrote:
Though the option to descend originally had requirement of at most 2 sabotage, when I reached 3 sabotage, the option was replaced by a near identical option with a requirement of 3 or more.

Ah. I didn't know that would happen. I thought 3 sabotage would lock me out of the ravine.

My character chose not to delay the train (only committed 2 sabotage) because he wanted to see the former aristocrat of hell. Still don't regret that decision (the ends justify the means, especially in hell), although I feel the game cheated me :P
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Kukapetal
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Posts: 1449

12/31/2016
Speaking of figuring out the mystery ourselves, did anyone else guess who the murderer was because of

[spoiler] that awesome artwork of an angry mob in the background :P [/spoiler]
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sebastian olmen
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Posts: 18

1/1/2017
  • [spoiler] My voyage into Hell does not seem to have affected my stats claiming that they are too high to. [\spoiler]
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    Cthonius
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    Posts: 362

    1/1/2017
    Kukapetal wrote:
    Speaking of figuring out the mystery ourselves, did anyone else guess who the murderer was because of

    [spoiler] that awesome artwork of an angry mob in the background :P [/spoiler]



    Iirc it was originally art for the Iron Republic, and fit with the Hell stuff here to be reused

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    Aodyssey
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    1/2/2017
    I am curious, how does the character stats gain works from voyaging into Hell? CPs? Flat level gains? [unmodified stat+items] = [new stats]?

    My main's were all 200s, so I'm uncertain how nor when to plans my alt's sojourn into the ventral plane.

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    Kukapetal
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    1/2/2017
    Cthonius wrote:
    Iirc it was originally art for the Iron Republic, and fit with the Hell stuff here to be reused


    Oh, I haven't been to the Iron Republic yet, so I didn't know it was used there. I spent the first part of the trip wondering what an angry mob had to do with the story, until the pit stop, when

    [spoiler] I talked to the Dignitary and she revealed she had to flee a mob at some point in her past, which caused me to assume that the artwork was in reference to that incident and therefore, the Dignitary had to be a character who was important to the story. And since she couldn't be the Lily because it had been established that the Lily was a man, that left her being the murderer as the most likely reason she was deemed important enough to be referenced by the background artwork [/spoiler]
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    Frederick Metzengerstein
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    1/2/2017
    I have always assumed the mob artwork reflects (a) the Iron Republic's founding in the revolution which overthrew the Infernal aristocracy (b) the anarchic nature of Hell, where physical laws and time itself is mutable (c) the violence and hostility of its demonic citizenry.
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    Doctor Adventure
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    1/3/2017
    I went, but nothing changed. Guess I know myself!
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    Lallinka
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    1/3/2017
    Just wanted to add in my two cents, as a new EF.
    I liked the story a lot, although I must join the masses that would prefer had we been able to figure out and choose the murderer for ourselves. Even if choosing him meant getting a "Nope, try again", just like in the previous story.
    Otherwise, I liked it a lot and I didn't mind the price of the stats so much. Although I do understand how some of the losses might be really painful for some people :P

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    MidnightVoyager
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    1/3/2017
    Really, I don't mind being told that I figured out who the murderer was. The journal system is messed up enough that I'd have easily been able to forget something important while waiting for an action refresh and have no way to look back and remind myself.

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    Dire Wolf
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    1/3/2017
    All in all, very impressive story telling and a wonderful way to deepen the back story. As big mystery fan, I loved the real detective work that was included but would like to see the option to really unravel clues and have the chance to get things wrong.

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    Fortune_Silver
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    Posts: 2

    1/4/2017
    Got to say, as a new Exceptional Friend, I thoroughly enjoyed this story. Beautiful writing and an engaging mystery throughout. Hats off to the author. A tad disappointing that I failed to delay the train (I seem to have incurred the wrath of the RNG gods (87% chance to succeed my ass) but the story was stellar regardless.

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    Skinnyman
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    1/4/2017
    Incredible story and I'm almost done with it!
    I sabotaged the train which was late, used the subtle approach with Lily, didn't hand him to the Emissary, saved all the passengers, but chose the option to enter Hell as it was to tempting!
    Anyone has the echo for not entering Hell? Mine was unlocked by using the subtle approach, but don't know for sure if there were other options as well.

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    hamartophilliac
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    Posts: 7

    1/4/2017
    Beautiful writing, very engaging, I loved every step of the story. I delayed the train, figured out the murderer and entered Hell. What else could one possibly wish for? I really hope we'll get more stories from the author.

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    ElevenGiants
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    Posts: 24

    1/4/2017
    I've only recently become an exceptional friend, and love the writing here...quite atmospheric and a bit cheeky.

    After hell my stats went from 177 to 187 for Shadowy, 50 to 97 for Watchful. Dangerous 193 and Persuasive 206 did not change.

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    Catherine Raymond
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    1/4/2017
    ElevenGiants wrote:
    I've only recently become an exceptional friend, and love the writing here...quite atmospheric and a bit cheeky.

    After hell my stats went from 177 to 187 for Shadowy, 50 to 97 for Watchful. Dangerous 193 and Persuasive 206 did not change.


    My alt chose to visit Hell, and I noticed no change in her stats afterward. Of course, she is Seeking Mr. Eaten's Name, and Hell seemed pretty tame to her. :-)

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