 Riftare Posts: 37
10/26/2016
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Greetings all!
I'm trying to acquire the Rubbery Bellringer, and realize that I am under a severe time constraint to do so. Is there any more effective or even possible way to grind rubbery renown besides using Fate on the Amber card for Favors, and cashing them in for Renown? And if not... am I correct in thinking that it will take dozens and dozens of turn-ins of seven Favors to get to 25 renown? Am I missing something, or is this a nigh impossible grind? My current Rubbery Renown is only 8. Any ideas?
- Riftare
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
10/26/2016
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Its a very difficult grind, but you can exchange illuminated gentleman confessions for 2 favours. You can also get a favour by using the polite invitation, one per 23ish actions in flute street if you bought it, and on the rubbery card. edited by suinicide on 10/26/2016
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 Riftare Posts: 37
10/26/2016
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Thank you for the options... I still do have one question though. Even if I were to use Fate to get one Favor per action, would I not still be looking at hundreds and hundreds of actions to grind Renown up to 25?
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 Skinnyman Posts: 2133
10/26/2016
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Remember that Polite Invitation has two options for a Favour: one possible (50% chance)at TR 5 after a Persuasive challenge and one (100%) at TR 2 after a Shadowy challenge. So, other than cards, the answer to your question is "no". EDIT: Riftare wrote:
Thank you for the options... I still do have one question though. Even if I were to use Fate to get one Favor per action, would I not still be looking at hundreds and hundreds of actions to grind Renown up to 25? You'll need 42 AP to get Favours and 7 more AP to get to level 15 followed by 70 AP to get Favours and 10 AP to level up to Renown 25. I know these were the number when I started grinding, but can't really remember if I once increased my Renown with 2 levels from the (possible) 21 CP you may gain when Saving a Rubbery Flophouse. Still, very expensive regarding Fate, but it costs you about 129 AP!  edited by Skinnyman on 10/26/2016
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
10/26/2016
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It is a long grind, but as your renown goes up, you get better options for increasing it. I don't think it would go past 200 actions.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
10/26/2016
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Riftare wrote:
Greetings all!
I'm trying to acquire the Rubbery Bellringer, and realize that I am under a severe time constraint to do so. Is there any more effective or even possible way to grind rubbery renown besides using Fate on the Amber card for Favors, and cashing them in for Renown? And if not... am I correct in thinking that it will take dozens and dozens of turn-ins of seven Favors to get to 25 renown? Am I missing something, or is this a nigh impossible grind? My current Rubbery Renown is only 8. Any ideas?
- Riftare it will take a total of 98 favors to get from 8 to 25, if done optimally, I believe. 5 to 25 will take 119. (5->8 = 21, 8 -> 15 = 42, 15 -> 25 = (205/28 rounded up)*7 = 56) (the cp per cash-in doubles at certain points.) since you're at 8, you've already handled at least 21 of them. If we assume you only have 100 to go... Flute street is still slow. something like 20 actions per favor plus 15 traveling every 7 favors. Faster methods are cards, but cards are RNG. You could sacrifice confessions- each illuminated gent confessions can be turned in for 2 rubbery favors... But that's still something like 49 sacrifices, and you probably can't afford that either.
However, it's not a *nigh-impossible* grind if you start early- rubbery renown has been out for like a year. You just didn't bother with it before. Best in slots are never easy to get- or at least they shouldn't be. edited by Grenem on 10/26/2016 edited by Grenem on 10/26/2016
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
10/26/2016
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Skinnyman wrote:
Remember that Polite Invitation has two options for a Favour: one possible (50% chance)at TR 5 after a Persuasive challenge and one (100%) at TR 2 after a Shadowy challenge. So, other than cards, the answer to your question is "no". EDIT: Riftare wrote:
Thank you for the options... I still do have one question though. Even if I were to use Fate to get one Favor per action, would I not still be looking at hundreds and hundreds of actions to grind Renown up to 25? You'll need 42 AP to get Favours and 7 more AP to get to level 15 followed by 70 AP to get Favours and 10 AP to level up to Renown 25. I know these were the number when I started grinding, but can't really remember if I once increased my Renown with 2 levels from the (possible) 21 CP you may gain when Saving a Rubbery Flophouse. Still, very expensive regarding Fate, but it costs you about 129 AP!  edited by Skinnyman on 10/26/2016 it's not 21 cp. the general theory- which my observations fit, is that it's 28 cp per rubbery flophouse.
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 Scienceandponies Posts: 247
10/26/2016
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suinicide wrote:
Its a very difficult grind, but you can exchange illuminated gentleman confessions for 2 favours. You can also get a favour by using the polite invitation, one per 23ish actions in flute street if you bought it, and on the rubbery card. edited by suinicide on 10/26/2016
I was unaware of the illuminated gentleman exchange. As I'm currently grinding making waves to turn Notability into random confessions (with a very respectable BDR), that just might make getting from 17 to 25 renown doable with some shrewd trading. I need to figure out if my making waves grind is more effective than Flute Street.
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
10/26/2016
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Quick question. Does anyone know how long ago the Rubbery Bellringer companion was introduced? It seems like he hasn't been around that long, but I'm not sure if he really hasn't or I just found out about him later than everybody else :P
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
10/26/2016
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Half a year ago, wow that seems longer when I put it into words.
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
10/26/2016
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So not too much longer before I found out about him. And yet I was only able to get renown up to 15 by the time the festival started. Don't know if I stink at it or just have dumb luck :P
Thanks for your help!
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