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Gul al-Ahlaam
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10/19/2016
I've been thumbing back through my old copy of the Popol Vuh, and I'd forgotten that it's Camazotz (the Bat God), who brokers the whole enlightenment-in-exchange-for-sacrifice deal between the gods and humans! I mostly remember him from the hero twins story, but he's got an important role as a dealmaker/salesman sort of guy here. A suitable role for the Masters to fill when they came to the 3rd city, eh?

That got me thinking: with a game so extraordinarily well-researched, and with so many complex literary and historical allusions and references, there have got to be a whole bunch of hidden little historical tie-ins like that! Really specific ones like the one I just mentioned, or more broadly thematic ones, like how the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th cities (and the 1st one, sort of) are all from civilizations famous for sky-blue dye!


  • SO, in the interest of collaborative spirit, I figured I'd make a little thread for people to find and discuss these fun little tidbits! ^_^

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    Diptych
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    10/19/2016
    So I've spent far too long trying to match Fallen London's (and other fallen cities') locales to real-world locations. Some are easy - Jekyll Garden is Hyde Park, presumably renamed in honour of renowned Victorian gardener Gertrude Jekyll. Some are difficult - I'm still not sure, at this point, whether any of FL's pubs have specific real-world analogues. Some, well, I'm not sure if the link is obvious or if it's just in my head. For instance, the Antimacassar Theatre is known for its light comic operas. That's got to be the Savoy, by way of Richard D'Oyly Carte - doily - antimacassar, right? I'm still kind of proud of digging up the possible inspiration for the Prim Baronet's ancestral home, the Marsh House, in the form of the East Lodge, Marsh Lane - a since-demolished building which was, in its day, apparently rather notorious, and was rumoured to sit atop a network of secret passages dating back centuries. Might be sheer coincidence, of course, but, hey, in Fallen London, serendipity is the name of the game.

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    Diptych
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    10/19/2016
    Thank you - you're very kind! Another one I've been wondering about - Visage. It was a while back that I was looking into this, but the giant face on Visage - it's meant to be the face of the object of the sculptor's affections, yeah? And it's called "Flourishing-of-Years". Well, at least according to some sources, that was one of the regnal names of the pharaoh Hatshepsut. Her vizier, Senenmut, was a prolific architect and responsible for several major monuments and sculptures, and it's long been speculated that the two of them were lovers, or at least very close.

    So, is Flourishing-of-Years Hatshepsut, and was Senenmut its sculptor? If so, well, her reign was a good hundred years before that of her great-great-great-grand-nephew (I think I've got that right) Akhenaten, whose reign coincided with the fall of the Second City. So how did any of them get to the Neath? Plus, the presence of an apparently once-functional nilometer at Visage suggests that it once rested on the Surface. So, was Visage once an Egyptian surface settlement, that came to the Neath independent of a pact with the Masters? Rooting around for possible real-world equivalents, I came across Elephantine - an island on the Nile with features dating back to Hatshepsut's reign, and with a number of correspondences to Visage.

    ...and, in looking all this up again, I realised that I posted voluminously about this theory about a year and a half ago. How do I remember all these stupid details and not remember having a conversation about them? My brain is weird brain.
    edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 10/19/2016

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    Meradine Heidenreich
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    10/19/2016
    Thank you, Sir Frederick! I love the old thread that details the correspondences with historical London.

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    Kukapetal
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    12/30/2016
    The Forbidden Fruit from the Bible is sometimes portrayed as a fig
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