 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
10/11/2016
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Early Access buyers will receive a copy automatically.
Kickstarter Backers will hopefully receive a copy automatically, but if we get reports that you haven't, we have an email ready to go with keys for everyone.
Excitment levels: ALL STAFF WEARING MATCHING T-SHIRTS
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
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BlabberingMat wrote:
I am totally making a Steam account just for this! Will some sort of deal ( SS+Zubmariner) be eventually available?
Thar shall be a bundle, aye.
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 Teaspoon Posts: 866
10/11/2016
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That's sort of the point of Kickstarters - pay money early, get discounts later.
Paid DLC is not that weird a concept in the gaming world at large.
-- Truth lies at the bottom of a well.
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 suinicide Posts: 2409
10/12/2016
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Zubmariner is 10.99 on GoG as well. In the bundle they cost 17.38. edited by suinicide on 10/12/2016
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 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
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As Suinicide points out, the price for both on GOG is £12.88. If you're seeing otherwise, please email a screengrab to zubmariner@failbettergames.com and I will take it up with the store.
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
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Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
Count in other factors like people being discouraged by the sharp price and preffering to pirate or whatever, and there's no real way to tell if anyone's right in the matter.
That's... that's a crime. That's stealing art from a hardworking indie studio. That's fairly unambiguous in terms of who's in the right and who's in the wrong! Now, no more of this nonsense talk - back on topic, and that topic is, can I move to Scrimshander because I think those people would -get- me.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 John Moose Posts: 276
10/11/2016
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Are you actually indignant at having to pay for an expansion? Or that there's a better deal for Sunless Sea today than when you bought it? How would you have gotten the expansion free by buying Sunless Sea today?
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
10/11/2016
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I would say that at least some of the people who backed the Kickstarter paid more than £20 to Failbetter, several gave significantly more to get some other rewards and input into the game. Zubmariner was one of two stretch goals and without those backers Sunless Sea and now Zubmariner would not exist.
Also Failbetter do need to make money to continue making their games.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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 Skinnyman Posts: 2133
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Hannah Flynn wrote:
Excitment levels: ALL STAFF WEARING MATCHING T-SHIRTS
Pics or it didn't happened! In any case, congratulations!!!  edited by Skinnyman on 10/11/2016
-- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
10/11/2016
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Skinnyman wrote:
Hannah Flynn wrote:
Excitment levels: ALL STAFF WEARING MATCHING T-SHIRTS
Pics or it didn't happened! In any case, congratulations!!!  edited by Skinnyman on 10/11/2016
Pics available throughout the day on instagram: failbetter_games
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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 BlabberingMat Posts: 385
10/11/2016
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I am totally making a Steam account just for this! Will some sort of deal ( SS+Zubmariner) be eventually available?
-- Alt-Lana Loter Main-Always Drunk Slav
"To see a world in a grain of sand, and Heaven in wild flowers. To hold an infinity in palm of hand and Eternity in an hour”
Finally, I am Crooked Cross! Feel free to send invitations for Salon! As of June 5th, 1895, I am London's newest Legendary Charisma!
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
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I think the key difference there is that if you bought Sunless Sea a year ago, you'd have had got a year's worth of playtime out of Sunless Sea already.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
10/12/2016
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It's not exactly unusual for games to go on sale a while after release or when some DLC has just come out. It's a marketing strategy. If someone hasn't bought the game already, they may do so at a lower price, but lowering the price sooner after release would lose money on sales that would happen anyway.
-- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
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It's a perennial problem - people resent if someone else, for whatever reason, pays less than them for something. Even leaving aside the commercial reasons for such price changes - the market's willingness to pay more for something brand new; the usefulness of incentive for early adoption; the use of sales to revive interest in an established product; and so on - if a product were to stay at the same price for the entire duration of its availability, then it might be "fair" in the sense that no-one has paid more than anyone else, but it would be profoundly unfair in that those thrifty euro-counters might never, ever be able to afford it - not even if they were courageous enough to get in during early access, or patient enough to wait for a sale.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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[1].png) Emain Ablach Posts: 348
10/11/2016
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It says "will be available in 5 hours". Oh the wait... AIT THE WAIT THE WAIT THE WAIT THE W
-- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him.
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 absimiliard Posts: 759
10/11/2016
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GAHH!!!!!!
(just sayin')
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 phryne Posts: 1347
10/11/2016
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AK has a few words to say about Zubmariner, as well...
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[1].png) Emain Ablach Posts: 348
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"£7.99" That's two kebabs. If you don't eat those two kebabs, you can discover what lies beneath the waves (nothing of consequence, of course). Pretty good deal, mm ?
-- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him.
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
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That would definitely be early access - the game was officially released in February 2015.
-- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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 Kyron The Wise Posts: 45
10/11/2016
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UK_john wrote:
I paid £11.39 for Sunless Sea. Now I see if I had pre-ordered it, part of kickstarter or just buying the game today for the first, I would get the expansion free,
But because I am one of the many who paid the cash so you were able to keep paying the rent over the last year or so, I get no break at all and am expected to pay ANOTHER £7.99 for the expansion on top of what I already paid! That's a total of £19.38!
Absolutely ridiculous! Are you trying to lose loyal customers edited by UK_john on 10/11/2016 edited by UK_john on 10/11/2016
People buying Sunless right now aren't getting Zub as well. There is a bundle for the both. It also happens to be more expensive than Zubmariner, slightly. The only thing being discounted, standalone or in bundle, is the base game, and FBG reserves the right to put that on sale, which they have done so. Newbies are not paying less for the expack than people who had the game.
-- Kyron The Wise, Correspondent, and thus always a wee bit insane. Also now on the Seeking Road, I do not desire Mr. Eaten's name, but pursue the identity of another name. (Main Account): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kyron~The~Wise Secondary, previously dreaming of Parabola, now dreaming of the Name, account: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Librari
You can argue with me, and you might even defeat my points. But somewhere along the way I may use philosophy to make you question existence. Who's the real winner?
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 Luxira Posts: 22
10/14/2016
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Is there any word on when the latest patch will become available for the GOG version?
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 Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491
10/14/2016
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Luxira wrote:
Is there any word on when the latest patch will become available for the GOG version?
Prob in the next 3 or 4 hours. Not being on the same timezone as them leads to the occasional delay like this.
-- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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