Hannah Flynn
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9/22/2016
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I was just talking to the IRC and they weren't clear on this so I wanted to swing in here and let you all know:
This Saturday, Paul, Liam, Chris and I are going up to Birmingham for EGX. We will be interviewed on the Developer Sessions stage at 4pm BST about Zubmariner AND about our next game - we'll announce the title and details!
You can watch live: twitch.tv/egx
Or it will be on their YouTube channel at some point afterwards (we have no control over when).
Hype train to Birmingham, choo choo!
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Diptych
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9/26/2016
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Well, above, obviously.
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Mr Sables
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10/1/2016
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fallingkitten wrote:
[...]I'm sure I'm just being silly (and tired), but I'm hoping these (fairly major) issues haven't been put on the back burner.
See, I'm always curious how FBG works behind the scenes . . .
Like, I'm thinking how it would make sense to have x employees dedicated solely to FL content, and y dedicated solely to other projects, for example . . . that way work on one wouldn't interfere with the other; renown, requirements, lagging, marriage, new content, finishing content . . . it could all be completed and fans could be happy, but they'd still make a profit and get new games out. At the minute it sometimes feels like: "drop everything, everyone, we have a new project out now! Work on this instead!" . . . like, it's probably not, and probably more professional than that, but I can fully get why fans are worried, as - at a certain point - it does get worrying.
Like, years of incomplete content, months since announcements 'x will change into y' . . .
Not to mention the 'reward' for purchasing a full season that went from 'next week' to 'before the end of this next one, for sure'.
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Chris Gardiner
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9/24/2016
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You crazy kids pulled it off.
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Parabuteo
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9/24/2016
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http://www.failbettergames.com/7-facts-about-our-next-game/
Seven facts about Sunless Skies. Here is the most important one:
"5. Why the name? The stars are dying. The stars are the Judgements: the inventors, arbiters and enforcers of the universe’s laws – but a revolution has begun, and the stars are being murdered."
I always knew we could do it, gang. The Liberation is here.
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Vincent Asmund
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9/22/2016
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ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!
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Luminen Walker
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9/24/2016
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This seems like a possible future rather than a definite one for things to me- kind of like the endings and supremacies in Sunless Sea. At least as far as Fallen London is concerned the liberation still looks stoppable.
Optimistic about this.
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Estelle Knoht
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10/1/2016
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Stuff might be a little slow as they are apparently moving offices for better internet. A serviced office in a Victorian foundry, they say, so presumably more time will be spent on stuff that isn't fixing the light bulb or the internet and things will go faster.
(Hannah's internet went up in spectacular jam-fueled flames last time she came on to IRC)
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fallingkitten
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10/1/2016
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First off, I am looking forward to this new game! I think Failbetter make great games, so I'm sure this one will be even better.
I am rather..apprehensive? concerned?..about this though. I mean, from what I've heard (well, read) neither app is really up to scratch. The Android one's pretty slow for a lot of people I believe (and I think it's much the same for the ios app, but I could be wrong there).
Costs and requirements haven't been touched in a while I don't think, and we still haven't got back the ability to marry/divorce other players. Also gifts of fate aren't back, and I know of one that's currently in limbo.
The move of connections to favours and renown seems to have stopped too.
I'm sure I'm just being silly (and tired), but I'm hoping these (fairly major) issues haven't been put on the back burner.
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Akernis
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9/24/2016
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Uh... and my excitement just got tainted with trepidation. The Liberation of Night was always my least favourite story-line of Fallen London. And if this is the very premise for Sunless Skies it seems that no matter what we do the Liberation is destined to succeed, rendering pretty much all non-LoN destinies moot, some of which were perhaps my very favourite part of Fallen London's lore and my character's motivations 
I hate being pessimistic, but I really don't want to see the world I have so grown to love and care for be arbitrarily destroyed by a few revolutionaries afraid of some sunlight, with any attempt to stop that event doomed by canon to failure.
Edit: Pretty much agreed with what Robin said.
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Akernis
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9/24/2016
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Yeah, it's probably best to keep an open mind and give the FBG team the benefit of the doubt.
Finger's crossed and hope for the best 
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Wiwo
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9/24/2016
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If there is any justice, we will finally learn something intelligible about Salt.
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Mr Sables
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9/24/2016
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Parabuteo wrote:
http://www.failbettergames.com/7-facts-about-our-next-game/
Seven facts about Sunless Skies. Here is the most important one:
"5. Why the name? The stars are dying. The stars are the Judgements: the inventors, arbiters and enforcers of the universe’s laws – but a revolution has begun, and the stars are being murdered."
I always knew we could do it, gang. The Liberation is here.
I'm not sure how I feel about that . . .
It kind of makes a few destinies 'un-canon', while a lot of the stories some people created for their characters feel . . . 'wrong'? Like, I liked that the whole 'future' of the world was up to the player character in some respects, but now it seems like there's a set path.
Ah well, FBG do make amazing games, and I'll be happy to contribute once the kick-start is open
Here's looking forward to it and hoping for the best.
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Sara Hysaro
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9/24/2016
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I'm just viewing this as a possible future, much like the destinies are possible futures.
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sosisqua
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9/24/2016
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Liberation is new canon? Ha-ha. What a time to be alive.
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Cthonius
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9/24/2016
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This seems...different from the Liberation. Honestly this sounds like something more than just the Revolutionaries are behind. Maybe.
Which makes me wonder if this means some drastically new FL stuff. Like if Sunless Skies is canon to FL or a sort of What If? There are many questions, and a patient excitement for this game.
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9/24/2016
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Here's a link for official confirmation:
https://twitter.com/LiamWelton/status/779710492612890624
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9/24/2016
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
You crazy kids pulled it off.
We have encountered a truly rare sight today - the Discoloured Gardiner! REJOICE!
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Pyrodinium
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9/23/2016
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The Hype is On! is increasing
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Grenem
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9/24/2016
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Akernis wrote:
Uh... and my excitement just got tainted with trepidation. The Liberation of Night was always my least favourite story-line of Fallen London. And if this is the very premise for Sunless Skies it seems that no matter what we do the Liberation is destined to succeed, rendering pretty much all non-LoN destinies moot, some of which were perhaps my very favourite part of Fallen London's lore and my character's motivations
I hate being pessimistic, but I really don't want to see the world I have so grown to love and care for be arbitrarily destroyed by a few revolutionaries afraid of some sunlight, with any attempt to stop that event doomed by canon to failure.
Edit: Pretty much agreed with what Robin said.
I read it as the liberation was successful in starting and getting some effect. This is both regrettably and fortunately not the same thing as a successful and complete liberation of the knight. In other words, it's entirely plausible that we have a liberation in testing phase, just a later-game testing phase.
That said, this is clearly forwards in the Fallen London timeline, a jump ahead of the place our game is set in, and I'm pretty sure us humans are not the only ones who want the stars gone. [x^(2k)], for instance, would love to get rid of stars if they could. Hell's obsession with souls may be to figure out how to destroy stars. I would not be surprised if other stars wanted to take them down.
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Sir Goomy
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9/24/2016
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Well, whatever direction this may take, I think the idea is pretty neat and has a lot of potential.
Think about it - travelling through and between the realms of the Stars, interacting with beings that defy human comprehension and maybe, even aid in the salvation or downfall of a Judgment (or Judgments)
Hm, delicious ideas and possibilities, no?
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10/1/2016
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Estelle Knoht wrote:
they are apparently moving offices for better internet Yay, that's great - one up over the Jamlords! 
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Akernis
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10/1/2016
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Robin Alexander wrote:
See, I'm always curious how FBG works behind the scenes . . .
*snip*
From what I gather from following developers talking about the behind-the-scenes on various games, I am under the impression that it is never quite as clean as that. If it was that easy I am fairly certain that they would have done it a long time ago.
You rarely have enough resources to just be able to assign a sufficient number of people to whatever project you would like. If you split people between project you might end up with all your projects being under-staffed and delaying and nothing being able to meet deadlines.
Since you almost never have the time and manpower to do everything you would have liked at once you have to prioritize and sometimes put some things on pause while others gets finished on time.
A problem that is only made made more complex with technical problems, time-constraints, having to re-write or re-program things, and any other host of issues that might arise.
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9/26/2016
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Ian Hart wrote:
I'm fairly certain that Sunless Sea was declared an alternate continuity. I could dig up evidence if people want to be assured one way or the other, but there are a couple of points where the world just fundamentally does not work the same way.
I'd love to see conclusive evidence that can't be explained away. I mean, the wounds-are-actually-lethal is an assumption that most zailors are dying in ways that people don't come back from, or at least not in any shape fit to exist in.
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9/26/2016
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Ian Hart wrote:
I'm fairly certain that Sunless Sea was declared an alternate continuity. I could dig up evidence if people want to be assured one way or the other, but there are a couple of points where the world just fundamentally does not work the same way.
I have evidence to the contrary
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9/26/2016
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Well, above, obviously.
Okay, that made me laugh ^^
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Cthonius
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9/24/2016
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I was under the impression that Sunless Sea was canon to FL: the Dawn Machine, Frostfound, that port to the surface, etc are all still in FL. It's just nothing is really based around anything that would put Sunless sea in conflict with FL. Yet. Zubmariner may yet prove me wrong, but I doubt it. But Skies concept of the Empire in the High Wilderness departs significantly from FL unlike just zeeing what's at zee
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Akernis
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10/3/2016
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maleclypse wrote:
The Liberation doesn't succeed. The New Sequence does.
I'd be much more open to that possibility. I always found the Dawn Machine a much more interesting element, whether as an 'ally' or enemy, than the Revolutionaries.
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Akernis
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9/24/2016
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Grenem wrote:
I read it as the liberation was successful in starting and getting some effect. This is both regrettably and fortunately not the same thing as a successful and complete liberation of the knight. In other words, it's entirely plausible that we have a liberation in testing phase, just a later-game testing phase.
That is, of course, also a possibility. My only problem with that is that in the Destinies of the LoN mention that cleansing the Neath of all light and destroying all civilization is a prelude, a test run, to going after the Judgments. Meaning that if the Judgement are now being murdered (and presuming that the LoN is to blame) then they must already have been through with the Neath and Earth.
Unless, of course, the LoN is diverging from the sequence of events shown in the destinies.
That is not to say I won't have fun with the new game. I am sure I will devour it as whole-heartedly as I have FL and SS*. Afterall even if worst should come to pass, Fallen London itself is bound to continue to bring delightful and delicious adventures for years to come. And it won't take much to headcanon that my by-then-hopefully-immortal FL character is scheming insidiously from somewhere in the background of Sunless Skies.
*By the way, what is our abbreviation for Sunless Skies? SS.2?
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9/24/2016
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Count me as being very enthusiastic for Sunless Sky! Even with all we know of Judgment lore, we know relatively little of the politics of the High Wilderness. While I'm sure the Liberation Of The Night will play a role, there are sure to be a host of entities with their own reasons to commit staricide.
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Akernis
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9/24/2016
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Ginneon Thursday wrote:
While I'm sure the Liberation Of The Night will play a role, there are sure to be a host of entities with their own reasons to commit staricide.
*Stellaecide
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Mr Sables
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9/24/2016
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Akernis wrote:
Uh... and my excitement just got tainted with trepidation. The Liberation of Night was always my least favourite story-line of Fallen London. And if this is the very premise for Sunless Skies it seems that no matter what we do the Liberation is destined to succeed, rendering pretty much all non-LoN destinies moot, some of which were perhaps my very favourite part of Fallen London's lore and my character's motivations
I hate being pessimistic, but I really don't want to see the world I have so grown to love and care for be arbitrarily destroyed by a few revolutionaries afraid of some sunlight, with any attempt to stop that event doomed by canon to failure.
Edit: Pretty much agreed with what Robin said.
It was one of my least favourite storylines, too . . .
I'm hoping this is something different; a new revolution of sorts, maybe set during a new fallen city or the surface revolutionaries (acting distinct from those in the Neath) . . . just some of us invested real-life time and money into getting precise destinies, unlocking/redoing certain stories for precise results, and other things to shape our characters and guide them down a set path. It feels pretty gut-wrenching to then be told 'it's all for nought', while an alternate timeline exploration sits funny with me, as it'd still feel more 'canon' as the only one of its kind . . .
It'll be interesting to get more information on this, as - if it is a 'canon future' - it could render a lot of what some people are doing or role-playing pointless, which I can't see FBG doing, being that they know their fanbase pretty well . . .
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Akernis wrote:
My only problem with that is that in the Destinies of the LoN mention that cleansing the Neath of all light and destroying all civilization is a prelude, a test run, to going after the Judgments. Meaning that if the Judgement are now being murdered (and presuming that the LoN is to blame) then they must already have been through with the Neath and Earth.
Unless, of course, the LoN is diverging from the sequence of events shown in the destinies.
Sadly (for me; greatly positively for you): For London to be growing 'increasingly authoritarian', it's probably still got the whole Law thing on lockdown. Which means at worst, the Device failed to kill the Dawn Machine; at mediumst, there's another revolution with murdering the stars as a goal kicking off (geez I hope they accept Revolutionary Funbux); and at best the Liberation crew said 'heck with the Neath, we figured out how to shank a star in the ribs, let's just skip right to that'.
At least one Destiny has already been rendered impossible and non-canon-- if you wrote Mr. Eaten's name on your arm as you do in Torment, you wouldn't get to hang out with Flukes and kickstart their reckoning. You would just be straight up incinerated before you finished getting it tattooed on there. So I'm not surprised that the details of one of the Liberation's test runs have gone a bit funky. There's probably still time to throw a wrench in those revolutionary gears.
(but that would be wrong. destroy the great chain and free my cool rubbery friends.)
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9/25/2016
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I am cautiously optimistic about this. On the one hand I'm more a fan of the Dawn Machine than the Liberation and the idea of abandoning London for space fills me with some trepedation. On the other hand I trust Failbetter to make a game that is fun to play and they have previously displayed a tendency to play fast and loose with time and the future (hence why my Sunless Sea game isn't taking place in 1983 right now.)
Like others have said, I assume the story will take place in a possible future and not the only 'canon' future and I wait to see what they do.
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9/25/2016
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Failbetter wrote:
Event Horizon
Yay. This is so cool, and absolutely horrifying!
I remember watching this underappreciated cult sci-fi classic as a child, and being deeply disturbed by it.
D.J.: I wasn't going to tell you this. I've been listening to the distress signal, and I, um, think I made a mistake in the translation.
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Miller: Go on.
D.J.: I thought it said 'liberate me' - 'save me.' But it's not 'me.' It's 'liberate tutame' - 'save yourself.' And it gets worse.
[Plays the distress signal again]
D.J.: There - I think that says 'ex inferis.' 'Save yourself... from hell.' Look, if what Doctor Weir tells us is true, this ship has been beyond the boundaries of our universe, of known scientific reality. Who knows where it's been, what it's seen. Or what it's brought back with it.
Miller: From hell.
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Mr Sables
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9/25/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Sara Hysaro wrote:
I'm just viewing this as a possible future, much like the destinies are possible futures.
Or perhaps an alternate continuity. Sunless Sea already had a number of those after all. Your Captain could, for example, hand London over to the New Sequence, which would invalidate a number of FL Destinies. Then there's the option to, you know, [spoiler]give February what she needs to burn London to the ground![/spoiler]
I'm still hoping it's not an alternate continuity, to be honest . . .
It seems like "Sunless Sea" started as a sort of 'expansion' of FL lore, with then the character able to personally choose what path to take, so the ending wouldn't 'contradict' their character . . . but it also wouldn't 'contradict' other people's characters, as the game was filled with various options and no one was more canon than another, and you could also replay to see all options.
If the premise of this were an 'alternate continuity', it's giving more weight and importance to that continuity over others, and automatically alienates FL users who played for a different future/destiny . . . the game itself starts by automatically contradicting them.
It's kind of why I'm thinking this is separate to FL in that sense; maybe it's a different revolutionary group, or focuses on some other aspect of the world that's not a direct continuation from FL in the sense of 'x achieved y and won' . . . we know there are revolutionaries on the surface, for example, so it's possible for it to be both a sequel and not for it to contradict any given player's 'canon' future. It could still be open, still be a sequel, but . . . not an alternate continuity.
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Hannah Flynn
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9/23/2016
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Skinnyman wrote:
ochrasy wrote:
Wiwo wrote:
Is this a new IP or is it set in the FL universe?
I think it would be a bit weird to announce it here if it weren't FL-related. however we're all weird, so who knows.
Should be as the non-FL KS is live!
1. Of course we'll tell our Main Gang about anything new we're making in our most high-traffic forum. What are we, rubes?!
2. The non-FL KS is Astronaut: The Best, which is actually non-FBG, being a Fundbetter game that we're funding, not making.
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9/23/2016
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We're helping their KS along because we want to see them do well, but it would be weird to give FL rewards to people who back a non-Failbetter title.
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Akernis
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9/24/2016
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It's happening 
Oooh, so the new game is 'Sunless Skies'. With the Kickstarter starting in February. So esxcited
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Wiwo
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9/22/2016
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Is this a new IP or is it set in the FL universe?
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9/24/2016
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Don't scream! You'll startle it!
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A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Edward Frye
Posts: 263
9/22/2016
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Can't wait!
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Edward Frye's Appearance http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?Page=7
My alt http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ulysses~Beechworth
My Mr. Eaten profile http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Laurens~Haymore
Edward Frye is currently open to pretty much any social options except loitering.
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phryne
Posts: 1351
9/25/2016
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Frederick Metzengerstein wrote:
Failbetter wrote:
Event Horizon
Yay. This is so cool, and absolutely horrifying!
I remember watching this underappreciated cult sci-fi classic as a child, and being deeply disturbed by it. Same here - that movie gave me more nightmares than anything else I've seen in my life!
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Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Cinnabar
Posts: 22
9/25/2016
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Failbetter wrote:
Our influences include: the science fiction of H G Wells and C S Lewis, the planetary romances of Leigh Brackett, Art Nouveau, Event Horizon, trains.
I do hope that the writers find some time to read William Hope Hodgson. His The Night Land redounds in horrors ensuing the final extinguishment of the sun's light... The Night is indeed a liberation, but not for humanity...
Published in 1912, it is an Edwardian rather than a Victorian work, but who's counting?
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
9/25/2016
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Hark DeGaul wrote:
I am cautiously optimistic about this. On the one hand I'm more a fan of the Dawn Machine than the Liberation and the idea of abandoning London for space fills me with some trepedation. On the other hand I trust Failbetter to make a game that is fun to play and they have previously displayed a tendency to play fast and loose with time and the future (hence why my Sunless Sea game isn't taking place in 1983 right now.)
Like others have said, I assume the story will take place in a possible future and not the only 'canon' future and I wait to see what they do.
The dawn machine probably also has an interest in overthrowing the stars. Its very existence is doubtless illegal, and is either weaker than an individual star, but with sufficient resources, or stronger but not enough to actually take them all on and win.
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Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Ian Hart
Posts: 437
9/26/2016
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I'm fairly certain that Sunless Sea was declared an alternate continuity. I could dig up evidence if people want to be assured one way or the other, but there are a couple of points where the world just fundamentally does not work the same way.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
9/25/2016
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
I'm just viewing this as a possible future, much like the destinies are possible futures.
Or perhaps an alternate continuity. Sunless Sea already had a number of those after all. Your Captain could, for example, hand London over to the New Sequence, which would invalidate a number of FL Destinies. Then there's the option to, you know, [spoiler]give February what she needs to burn London to the ground![/spoiler]
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
9/24/2016
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Wasn't sunless sea a sort of au for fallen london? Because if so then this one would be too.
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A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Ginneon Thursday
Posts: 265
9/24/2016
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Yes, ahem, pardon. Stellaecide.
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maleclypse
Posts: 259
10/3/2016
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Yes, because the judgements laws aren't absolute. If they were then the Neath would be Is rather than blurred Is/Is not and there would be no need for dragons, like Storm. Realistically strong willed people seem to regain/retain free will based upon distance from the Dawn Machine.
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Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%.
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Televangelist
Posts: 109
9/26/2016
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This begs the question... for those of us who started playing after the Sunless Sea kickstarter, will some of the old Sunless Sea kickstarter benefits -- the Parabolan Panther, the Dadd Wing, the Cladery Heart, and the like? Or perhaps even some of the very cool Silver Tree kickstarter rewards?
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
9/26/2016
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That's fairly final.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
10/1/2016
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Buy Sunless Sea and Zubmariner so they make money and can maybe afford to hire more people.
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maleclypse
Posts: 259
10/3/2016
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We learn a lot more in the first item I think. 1. As with Sunless Sea, it’ll be rich with stories. The Victorian Empire in space – the High Wilderness – a “blistering, wonderful night” among the thrones and domains of the stars. The Empress has abandoned London and led an exodus to the High Wilderness, to carve out a new British Empire. With the Empire being increasingly authoritarian, bohemians, revolutionaries and outcasts – like you – are trying to make a life for themselves on its fringes.
The Liberation doesn't succeed. The New Sequence does.
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Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%.
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