Matthew Cline
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9/14/2016
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Currently there's 41 different items in the "Curiosity" section of my inventory. Adding two more categories would help:
- "Plot/story", items that are acquired in the as a story progresses, and which can't actually be used for anything.
- "Connected", for the re-usable items which are related to the various factions.
With the addition of those the items left in "Curiosity" would be a lot more manageable.
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Johnny Felix
Posts: 180
9/14/2016
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I would find a category like books/writing/publishing helpful. It could contain short stories, research papers or the newspaper stuff, perhaps even the typewriter.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
9/14/2016
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Well, as I'm working on a FL extension I could add a collapsible part (or scrollable) to inventory items which hold more than, 4 rows, for example.
It will probably take me about a few more weeks to polish it, but what do you guys think about this option? All of the additions were based only on my experience so it's good to have other input.
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dov
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9/14/2016
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I also agree that there are too many items in the Curiosity section.
However, separating Connected items to their own category might not be so trivial: some of them, like the Pulsating Amber, or the Diary of the Dead, are already in their own categories, for thematic reasons.
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Optimatum
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9/14/2016
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Part of the issue right now is that some bug is sorting all the Curiosities alphabetically, instead of having the usable items grouped together at the beginning.
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Johnny Felix
Posts: 180
9/14/2016
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There are 76 items in my curiosity section. 3x newspaper copy, 3x research notes, different types of short stories and novels bloat the thing up. Also, various story items like the keepsakes from the ES.
To be fair, they already did a bit of a cleanup when they put the lodgings in a separate category.
edited by Johnny Felix on 9/14/2016
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
9/14/2016
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I have 77 Curiosities right now - how fitting for a Seeker. It would be even more if I had things like Tinctures of Vigour. I think some organizing is very much needed.
A Writings category would be excellent, though that might not be the best name. It could include items like Short Stories, Books of Hidden Bodies, works from Court, the Fungal-Themed Poetry from the FotER, Slowcake's Exceptionals, O'Boyle's Practical Primer, the Ornate Typewriter, Page from the Liber Visionis, newspaper copy, scientific notes and collected work... probably lots of things I don't have. I suppose the scientific notes and volumes could go in Academic as well.
edited by Optimatum on 9/14/2016
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Vavakx Nonexus
Posts: 892
9/14/2016
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For the Writings category, I'd have to disagree, as some of the items that a large amount of written work is scattered among other categories. Uncanny Incunabula are in Mysteries, Diaries of the Dead are in Rumours and Proscribed Material is an important part of the category's upconversion process. Without them, the Writing section seems pretty arbitrary to me.
What I'd suggest is a more abstract 'Accomplishments' tab for short stories and Rosettes, your K&C medals and written works, Notes on the Case of the Speculative Arachnid and ES completion items, along with a Connected items tab. While the latter suggestion might remove the meaning they receive from their current categories (which I rather like as an idea), it would be wildly outmatched by the convenience of a separate category, in my opinion.
edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 9/14/2016
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Barse
Posts: 706
9/14/2016
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I don't really have a stance on this issue but it prompted me to go and count, and I have a frankly ludicrous and very appropriate 77 items in my Curiosity section.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
9/15/2016
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A pet peeve of mine is that the Knob of Scintillack is filed under Goods and not Zee-Treasures.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
9/15/2016
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It's also possible to mark as a Plan an option with a MW unlock, which therefore also displays your current MW value.. For example, I have the option to summon the Amanuensis permanently Planned so I can both check my current MW level and, if raising Notability, how far I am to the next level.
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Saklad
Posts: 528
9/14/2016
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How about we just cut to the chase and ask for a search bar for Items, Qualities, and the Journal? It’s the obvious solution, no?
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Jermaine Vendredi
Posts: 588
9/14/2016
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Yes, several of us commented at the time how impractical that section had now become. Pretty sure someone said it was a deliberate change as part of an ongoing process. Sorry, can't find the thread at the moment. That gave some hope that things would improve again, but no luck so far.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
9/14/2016
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Maybe we can have the Fidgeting Writer category? That could cut some of the Curiosity bloat.
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Talkes
Posts: 90
9/14/2016
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Right now I have 46 items in my curiosity section without any of the Fidgeting Writer ones. Besides, you would (or at least, I would) usually convert them in stages - i.e. all sense of deja vu into glimpses, then glimpses into next and etc.
I'm pretty sure a reasonably curious person can go over 50 items, given I ran out of Ablution Absolution, wasn't productive enough in the Empress' Court, on expeditions around the Zee and recently lost all K&C tokens, so Fidgeting Writer is not the issue nor the solution here. Not that the it actually bothers me. Except, maybe, for sapphires and venom-rubies, which are rather mundane.
edited by Talkes on 9/14/2016
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dov
Posts: 2580
9/14/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
Part of the issue right now is that some bug is sorting all the Curiosities alphabetically, instead of having the usable items grouped together at the beginning.
Yeah, I've also noticed that a few weeks ago.
I just assumed this was a deliberate change.
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Paflick
Posts: 29
9/14/2016
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I could get behind that. I wouldn't be upset, either, if the inventory sections were made collapsible like the qualities are. It would certainly make finding things easier.
edited by Paflick on 9/14/2016
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Relm
Posts: 7
9/14/2016
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I'm with you on separating the connected items. There's definitely enough of them to make their own category.
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Theus
Posts: 311
9/14/2016
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re:search bar
That's all in the source available to the client. Try something like F12, Ctrl-F.
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
9/15/2016
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Well, this seems to be an issue to most so I come with a question: What would you think it'll be best?
a) More categories; diamonds, Fidgeting Writer, etc?
b) Rearrange them and place usable at the beginning alphabetically ordered (A-Z a-z)
c) Scroll with max limit of X rows, but this kind of crowds them more
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d) Dropdown
It would also be nice to know if FBG has some plans in the near future regarding this matter. 
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Skinnyman
Posts: 2133
9/15/2016
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Pretty busy, but managed to make this "blunt" snippets for a) and b).
// Move connection items. I only have these 5 
var list = [748, 752, 753, 755, 757];
var trim = '<h3>Connection Items</h3><ul class="you_icon cf">';
var exists = 0;
for(var j = 0; j < list.length; j++) {
var item = $('#infoBarQImage' + list[j]);
if(item.length > 0) {
exists ++;
trim += item.closest('li')[0].outerHTML;
if(item.closest('li').siblings('li:not(.empty-icon)').length - 1) {
if(item.closest('li').siblings('li.empty-icon').length == 5) {
item.closest('li').siblings('li.empty-icon').remove();
} else {
item.closest('ul').append('<li class="empty-icon"></li>');
}
item.closest('li').remove();
} else {
item.closest('ul').prev('h3').remove()
item.closest('ul').remove();
}
}
}
if(exists){
for(var i = 0; i < Math.abs((exists - 1)%6 - 5); i++) {
trim += '<li class="empty-icon"></li>'
}
trim +='</ul>';
$('p.explanation').after(trim);
}
// usable items first
var blaa = $('h3:contains(" Curiosity")').next('ul.you_icon');
var trim = '';
blaa.find('li > a.usableitem').each(function () {
trim += $(this).closest('li')[0].outerHTML;
$(this).closest('li').remove();
});
blaa.prepend(trim);
Run them in console (F12 for FF and Ctrl+Shift+I for Chrome); either one or the other or both.
By dropdown I mean to add an arrow which will contract/expand the whole.
EDIT: You have to be in "Myself" tab for it to work. Removed spoiler tag, sorry!
EDIT #2: Ooops! Text formatting was messing with the code!
EDIT #3: Updated the code for different cases.
edited by Skinnyman on 9/21/2016
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Alistair Cray
Posts: 114
9/15/2016
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Jeremy Saklad wrote:
How about we just cut to the chase and ask for a search bar for Items, Qualities, and the Journal? It’s the obvious solution, no?
That's a good idea, and implementable in an extension (at least the Items part; Qualities are loaded from the server piecemeal when expanding categories, so searching isn't going to work that easily without hitting FL servers with extra requests, which they can do without).
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Sandi Gummy
Posts: 75
9/15/2016
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I hope Making Waves can be more easily checked. And the qualities be in alphabetical order xD
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Harlocke
Posts: 506
9/15/2016
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I agree that a plot/story section is needed. That would reduce a lot of clutter by itself. Your short stories and books perhaps could stay in this section, or get separated into "publications".
A separate section for menace reducing consumables would be nice. It can be hard to find that tincture or laudanum you're looking for. Perhaps those could go in a new "Alchemical" section, right near the top of your inventory.
Other things that don't fit anywhere else can probably be reclassified under "goods", like whirring contraptions, jewels, and even strong backed labor. It's seems like a fitting place for items that are useful but not unique.
A new "seasonal" section might also make sense for stuff like election materials, feast of the rose gifts, and so on.
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