Lady Sapho Byron
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9/5/2016
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I am surprised canned food is not mentioned more often as a source of nutriment for Londoners. Rats and fungus are nice an all, but there does seem to be a demand for Surface foods. Canned foods should be transportable to London (relatively) cheaply and with low spoilage rates.
In the United States, at least, the production of canned foods boomed after the Civil War: approximately 30 million cans per year, compared to 5 million per year pre-war.
For the nerds (almost all of us) here's some fun reading: http://sha.org/wp-content/uploads/files/sha/files_2014/22942.pdf
Perhaps the importation of canned foods will be a hot topic in the next Mayoral election.
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Teaspoon
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With the caveat that historical niceties have very little to do with the Neath, I'll observe that it had only been a few years before the Fall that a rather messy scandal involving rotten Navy meat had rather damaged the reputation of tinned foodstuffs. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21689069
Tinned food in this era makes plenty of sense in the States because of the relative closeness of product (cattle) to the factories. Tinned meat is still economical enough that in our time line, it became cost-effective for Australians to ship to England, and I suppose theoretically that could be done here - but on top of one long sea voyage, you have *another* long and extremely more dangerous Zee voyage from Italy to Zee (I've not heard of the Spiral being used for any kind of serious goods trading; someone do chime in if that's not so.) So it's hard to get the goods to the Neath, and no one in London society is likely thrilled about the tinned stuff anyway.
Besides, if there's so much fungus around then someone's probably discovered a Quorn-kind-of-thing. If you can flavour mushrooms to taste like any kind of protein, then the big appeal of Surface food is the posh "look at our expensive Real Meat" snobbishness - which would not be served by tinned meat.
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phryne
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9/5/2016
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Teaspoon wrote:
Besides, if there's so much fungus around then someone's probably discovered a Quorn-kind-of-thing. I'm pretty sure that Mr Murgatroyd either has already done that, or is working on it! 
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Lady Sapho Byron
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9/5/2016
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Excellent points, Teaspoon, and thanks for the link. And while canned meat may not make much economical sense, other than as a luxury item (there are rats after all), canned fruits and vegetables would probably be in high demand. I imagine that there would be a secondary market for the cans themselves as a source of metal. Finally, I suggest a neologism for this kind of discussion: Neathonomics.
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With the caveat that historical niceties have very little to do with the Neath, I'll observe that it had only been a few years before the Fall that a rather messy scandal involving rotten Navy meat had rather damaged the reputation of tinned foodstuffs. http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21689069
Tinned food in this era makes plenty of sense in the States because of the relative closeness of product (cattle) to the factories. Tinned meat is still economical enough that in our time line, it became cost-effective for Australians to ship to England, and I suppose theoretically that could be done here - but on top of one long sea voyage, you have *another* long and extremely more dangerous Zee voyage from Italy to Zee (I've not heard of the Spiral being used for any kind of serious goods trading; someone do chime in if that's not so.) So it's hard to get the goods to the Neath, and no one in London society is likely thrilled about the tinned stuff anyway.
Besides, if there's so much fungus around then someone's probably discovered a Quorn-kind-of-thing. If you can flavour mushrooms to taste like any kind of protein, then the big appeal of Surface food is the posh "look at our expensive Real Meat" snobbishness - which would not be served by tinned meat.
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xKiv
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9/5/2016
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Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Finally, I suggest a neologism for this kind of discussion: Neathonomics.
Neathologisms achieved. Neatho!
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Morkan Kassington
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9/5/2016
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With the abundance of fungus, I wonder if London have its place as the chief exporter of mushrooms in the world.
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Teaspoon
Posts: 866
9/5/2016
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truffles
imagine Neath truffles
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Lord Hoot
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9/5/2016
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Teaspoon wrote:
truffles
imagine Neath truffles
What do you think the stone pigs are sniffing about for?
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Shadowcthuhlu
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9/6/2016
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Given our exotic fish, I wonder if there is a business opportunity in exporting rare smoked or salted sea life to the surface.
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xKiv
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9/6/2016
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Shadowcthuhlu wrote:
Given our exotic fish, I wonder if there is a business opportunity in exporting rare smoked or salted sea life to the surface.
Sunlight will likely render them too rare to exist.
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Shadowcthuhlu
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9/7/2016
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Instruct t h e to only open in dark rooms?
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Shadowcthuhlu
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9/7/2016
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Instruct t h e to only open in dark rooms?
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Sandi Gummy
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9/7/2016
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xKiv wrote:
Shadowcthuhlu wrote:
Given our exotic fish, I wonder if there is a business opportunity in exporting rare smoked or salted sea life to the surface.
Sunlight will likely render them too rare to exist.
But the Prisoner's Honey just lose their dream teleport power and still exist, and Glim only melted! We can export liquid fishes xDD
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Shadowcthuhlu
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9/8/2016
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Shadowcthuhlu wrote:
Instruct t h e to only open in dark rooms?
Wow, that was impressive on my part. The question I was trying to pose in my sleep addled state is that if you were to open the tin in a dark room, would that preserve the fish?
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PJ
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9/8/2016
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People still die in dark rooms on the surface. I think it takes more than ordinary dimness to subvert the laws of sunlight.
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suinicide
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9/8/2016
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Maybe if you infused the tin with irrigo...
But that would be a whole new problem.
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Lollerisms
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9/11/2016
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suinicide wrote:
Maybe if you infused the tin with irrigo...
But that would be a whole new problem.
What tin?
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suinicide
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9/11/2016
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No real tin, just wondering how to move Fallen London fish to the surface, without the problems that tend to come with that.
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Teaspoon
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9/11/2016
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Are Rubbery Lumps illegal, you think?
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hesperidia
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9/11/2016
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See, now I'm imagining a merchant carting some salted zee-beast to the Surface, opening the crate in which it was sealed... and finding a zee-beast-shaped pile of salt.
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