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Absintheuse
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8/15/2016



It’s that time of year again - You are invited to the Fruits of the Zee Festival! The festival begins today 15th August and will end 30th August. Enjoy calming fishing trips, and indulge in a cornucopian repast of delights plucked fresh from the bounteous Zee.

Hire a fishing boat, land a Strange Catch and trade it at the festival for special rewards! Things you may also experience include: the famous wishing well, maypole dancing, Drownie serenades, and beer.

Secure an invitation to a secret feast and catch a glimpse of your Destiny. Will it be a vision of victory or a dream of darkness?

You may even spot our newly elected Mayor.

Catch a ferry from Wolfstack Docks to Mutton Island to join the festivities!

The Fruits of the Zee Festival is open to all players, no matter your level. You don’t need a boat, and if you don't know the way to Wolfstack Docks, there's a helpful urchin at your lodgings who will be happy to ferry you for a reasonable price.
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dov
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8/15/2016
OK, to sum up:


New items:
  • Catch 7: Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple
  • Catch 7: A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
  • Catch 6: A Cured Jillyfleur Cloak (Clothing, Dangerous +6, Watchful +4, Persuasive -1)
  • Catch 5: Wrecking Boots (Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1)
  • Catch 4: A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia (Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1)
  • Catch 3 (assumed): Scrimshander Carving Knife (Weapon, Watchful +3, Persuasive +2, Dangerous -1)


Old items (for comparison, or if you're considering spending Fate):
  • Catch 7: Pre-Emptive Guinea-Pig (Weapon, Dangerous +7, Watchful +6)
  • Catch 6: 'For Your Own Good' Compass (Weapon, Watchful +6, Shadowy +4, Dangerous -1)
  • Catch 5: Bloodstained Eolith (Weapon, Watchful +5, Dangerous +4, Persuasive -1)
  • Catch 4: Consignment of Scintillack Snuff (Weapon, Dangerous +5, Persuasive +3, Shadowy -1)
  • Catch 3: Mutersalt (Weapon, Dangerous +3, Shadowy +2, Watchful -1)


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absimiliard
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8/18/2016
Fishing is Not a choice. It is a way of life.

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edited by absimiliard on 8/18/2016

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Angus Turner
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8/21/2016
The moment I saw that the strange catch wiki article has no description for a strange catch with a value of 12, I knew. I knew that I will be the one to catch that which no one has caught before. Last year I failed to do so, but this year, after getting all items from wreckers' cove, I resolved not to leave mutton island without my strange catch. I have spent countless actions, consumed over a hundred echos worth of partial maps, but now, at last, it will all be worth it. Because...because is not important. There is a short line of text to be found. Forget the rest. One last effort, five last change points to get my running battle to 12. Yes. Yes.
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Diptych
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8/23/2016
It's possible, I suppose. I did once suspect a deacon of smuggling contraband in his cassock, concealed beneath a false bottom. Long story short, well, it turned out to be a genuine bottom.

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An Individual
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8/15/2016
Part of me is happy to see a new set of items become available. If nothing else, it gives my main an excuse to take a break from the eternal and unending Cider grind. Another part of me is sad to see the "For Your Own Good" Compass become less available. It wasn't best in slot or anything. I just really liked it and it's flavor.

Also, I really like the idea that the mayor pops up during seasonal events. Being a public face during city festivals is a very mayoral thing to do and it make the election feel like it's had more of an impact. I'll be interested to see if this trend carries on through the other seasonal events.

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Diptych
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8/16/2016
My thought process went something like this. "Oh, hey, a new suite of Zee-rewards, to celebrate Zubmariner's upcoming release. I guess I could give my characters one each, and save the most useless or disgusting one for Doctor Taup- WAIT IS THAT A HISTORIOGRAPHY KNIFE I WANT A HISTORIOGRAPHY KNIFE FINALLY A CHANCE TO USE MY DEGREE."

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Diptych
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8/17/2016
Juniper and Esther are both trying to get high Cove values to get the Rector and the Wimple*, and keep going from Strange Catch 7-8 to Cove 5-6; meanwhile, Sir Fred is trying to get the knife and his Strange Catch 5 never goes lower than 4! But, I'm sure I'll get there eventually.

* The Rector and the Wimple, playing this month only at the Antimacassar Theatre. Tickets available now.

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Diptych
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8/23/2016
It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.

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Diptych
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8/23/2016
Well, you know what they say - mi casu marzu es su casu marzu.

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 Saklad
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8/23/2016
I hit Nightmares 7, went back to Fallen London after TtH to visit the Nadir, ended up raising my Nightmares to 10 while there, got it lowered to 9 upon leaving, immediately equipped my two Nightmare-reducing items, had a swig of laudanum (I broke my addiction later), made a mad dash back to Mutton Island, then lowered my Nightmares to practically nothing by giving a Strange Catch to the Melancholy Curate.

I don’t know about you, but I am loving this.

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Vopel
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8/24/2016

Ha ha! I finaly got you!
Now back to London, convert Zee-Ztories and go for 13!

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sosisqua
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8/17/2016
17! SEVENTEEN! move points in a row wasted on dancing with drownies, listen to their songs and other stuff. Sights didn't go past 66 not for a single time in 17 actions. As someone once said about MMOs, 'if you're lazy, use basic RNG'. I'm not mad or dropping the game. It just reminded me that saying.

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Mr Sables
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8/17/2016
*insert low groan here*

Right, I've started paying attention to my actual 'Strange Catch' number, due to a huge amount of attempts and getting nowhere close to the wimple . . . 7 and 8. No sign of any wimple. I got 7 and 8 since last evening, but still nothing, because - after trolling through the forums - the conversion from Strange Catch to the quality needed is . . . randomised.

I absolutely loathe RNG events, when they're connected to actual action points, invested items, and time spent away from elsewhere (it's why I don't mind the Fidgeting Writer so much, as it's based around being a gamble, and doesn't feel like it's wasting anything).

I love this festival, but I would also love a fairer system, because spending days out on the island - just because the RNG hates me - is kind of wasting my time . . . literally, as I can't even get any more prizes at this point, and I can't even see what the lady may be offering before I click, which prevents me from lowering menaces or throwing it back (as it takes a lot of action points just to find her).

It's . . . stressful.

Edit: I did manage to get the item with a 9 catch. Just now suffering the RNG fate trying to get my menaces down, use the wimple, and then get to 9 again to get the other item . . . I'm not sure the point in RNG being used so heavily.
edited by Robin Alexander on 8/17/2016
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phryne
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8/16/2016
Not sure whether this is new, but you can get the Wimple a second time now. Not sure whether there's another follow-up either, but the text seemed to suggest you get to keep it this time.
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Vexpont
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8/22/2016
genesis wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
I think there is only one wimple. Two distinct versions of it exist only for game purposes, namely to avoid a second meeting.
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But, firstly to my knowledge this sort of mechanic has never been used before and, secondly, there is a very easy conventional method to achieve this - just lock the Return Wimple branch if you have Encounter with the Mayor.


Warning: Dull mechanics ponderings ahead.

Giving the same Description to two different Things (that have two distinct names that only the game engine ever sees) is an IF dodge that will be used quite a bit, dressed up in different ways. Putting an equippable on one's mantelpiece is a nifty chance to see it happen.

I think the reason it's used here is that having an OriginalWimple and a SouvenirWimple gets round the need to actively mark the 'Return Sinning Jenny's Wimple' storylet as Locked when it appears again, which might make players think there was a fancy way to get it to unlock, and let them meet Jenny and Return the Wimple...again. Since giving the Wimple back gives some nice handouts from Jenny/the Dogged Reporter, players would then try fruitlessly to achieve the unlock, in the hope of rooking this pair of amnesiacs over and over. I know our sort.

'An Encounter with the Mayor Of London' is the controlling Quality. My guess is that when this is finally set to 1, 2, or 3 (when you've handed over OriginalWimple, then been loyal to Jenny, or betrayed her, or blackmailed her, respectively), SouvenirWimple drops in Wrecker's Cove, ready for the player to find it 'again'.

When the player has SouvenirWimple rather than OriginalWimple, the 'Return Sinning Jenny's Wimple' storylet just doesn't appear in the 'Fruits of the Zee Festival!' storylet selection, and is replaced with 'The Mayor is at the Feast!'

...even though following through 'The Mayor is at the Feast!' plays out just the same, and my alt-self just had a touching conversation with Jenny about her callow youth, and how she cast her wimple into the sea...while I was actually wearing the thing on my own head.

But having NPC's notice what you're wearing would be a raving nightmare to code for. And after all, no-one comments if you attend Court in your underthings and a pirate hat, which I've mentally rationalised as due to extreme British reserve.

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MidnightVoyager
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8/23/2016
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.


I've seen QUITE A LOT of this ever since the election stuff. It's getting slightly exhausting.

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genesis
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8/22/2016
genesis wrote:
I think I am missing something... When you recover the wimple the second time you cannot return it the second time (as far as I can see). But the *first* time you return it, the branch requires you only to have a wimple (it doesn't lock when you have Encountered the Mayor quality). So based on that, you should be able to return the wimple again..


Ok. I think, I've solved the mystery. It's a bit weird!

On a different account, I found the first wimple and put it on my mantelpiece. Then I returned the wimple to Jenny and, unsurprisingly, the wimple disappeared from my mantelpiece. Now, ordinarily, if you have a quality on your mantelpiece that you lose and then later, without touching your mantlepiece, you regain, the quality will automatically reappear on the mantelpiece. This, for example, is what happens if you put a Bundle of Oddities on your mantlepiece. I tested it with items by equipping some clothing, selling it and then reburying it and again that's exactly how it works.

So the interesting thing is that when I found the wimple again (without touching my now empty mantelpiece), it did *not* automatically reappear there.

So in fact, there are two distinct wimple items that *appear* identical but are not.

This obviously has interesting storyline implications, suggesting that one or both of the wimple that you find is not the genuine items. And hence, maybe, someone has been trying to manipulate Jenny using you (the player).

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harbourlady
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8/17/2016
I've also finally managed to acquire all of the unique items, including the wimple a 2nd time -- it definitely took a lot of dedication, but that's what makes the various festivals so wonderful -- the endless waiting for actions to refresh, to dip back into the frenzy and the fun... my question for everyone is whether, once you have acquired everything, you head back to london, or if you continue to play around at the festival. I feel like i've done what i wanted, and since this is not as social an event as many others, i'm tempted to head homeward - but it seems such a shame to leave the festival so soon after it started!

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Pnakotic
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8/18/2016
harbourlady wrote:
I've also finally managed to acquire all of the unique items, including the wimple a 2nd time -- it definitely took a lot of dedication, but that's what makes the various festivals so wonderful -- the endless waiting for actions to refresh, to dip back into the frenzy and the fun... my question for everyone is whether, once you have acquired everything, you head back to london, or if you continue to play around at the festival. I feel like i've done what i wanted, and since this is not as social an event as many others, i'm tempted to head homeward - but it seems such a shame to leave the festival so soon after it started!


I've always enjoyed mutton island - talk with Storm a bit, look down some spooky wells, rub elbows with pirates, consume artfully-prepared flesh of dubious origins, carouse in the moonish light with drunken islanders... the Fruits of the Zee festival is just icing on the cake!

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Amalgamate
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8/18/2016
Neat! I've gotten 2 of the unique items (the ones that need picking 4 and 6) already. I came in with basically no cartography items, and got a few from trading in catches, enough to get to Strange Catch 8 once (but it dropped to picking 6). The festival goes on for two weeks, so I'm not too worried about getting all the items before it runs out. RNG's not so bad, not when I have two weeks smile

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Catherine Raymond
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8/18/2016
I've done pretty well myself. My alt has already acquired the cloak, the submerged rector, and Jenny's lost wimple, and my main has the cloak, boots, and wimple. Despair not, Robin, I suspect the RNG will relent for you soon. In the meantime, consider doing the storylets on the Island that don't involve fishing (one gains Whispered Hints for example) or turning Extraordinary Implications into Uncanny Incunabula through the Custodian Chef.

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Reaeh
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8/16/2016
I had Strange Catch of 8 and 9, both times it resulted in Wrecker's cove 6. Curse you RNG, why are you tormenting me like that?

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rahv7
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8/16/2016
You have a 15% chance to meet the Hooded Lady, so statistically speaking, roughly every 7 tries. I know the feeling though. I've also invested about 20 actions recently only to give my Catch to the Chef because my Wounds were dangerously high.

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Optimatum
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8/16/2016
The running theory I've seen right now is that Running Battle is converted directly to Strange Catch, and that when Strange Catch is converted to Picking Through the value ranges anywhere from half to the full original value.

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Optimatum
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8/15/2016
Seekers beware! My alt just tried to gain Torment, but the abyssal future requires being the captain of a ship. Don't try to choose a destiny if you aren't, or you'll be forced to choose a different one! You also need St Cerise's Candle to choose Torment.

Harlocke wrote:
Is there a list of all the special items you can acquire?

I went through once and got the Jillyfleur cloak, and noticed that you can pay fate for previous years' items. Didn't actually click on that button though. Do they have all new items each year of the festival?

It also makes me wonder if mayoral election companions from previous years will be purchasable with fate.


The festival has only occurred twice before and had the same items both times.

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    Shadowcthuhlu
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    8/15/2016
    We should start making a chart of items and strange catch quality. Got boots at 6, will update on what I got at 8

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    phryne
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    8/15/2016
    If you take your own ship, you'll have to do the regular zee-journey, while the ferry costs only 5 actions. So I'd recommend to everyone taking the ferry whether you have your own ship or not!

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    RandomWalker
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    8/15/2016
    The wimple is in the cove. Requires a value of exactly 7.
    edited by RandomWalker on 8/15/2016
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    Sara Hysaro
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    8/15/2016
    Yep! 5 actions and you are there.

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    An Individual
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    8/15/2016
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    This is my first Festival, so I'm wondering, are there any items - right now or from the previous years - that are best in slot or otherwise notable?

    I'm a min-maxing kind of guy, and I'd like to be sure whether I can relax and do whatever or whether there's something I really need to get first. If all the items are outclassed by other things, I can just get some lore (and a destiny!) instead of grinding for any particular thing.

    The Submerged Rector is tied for highest non-fate/profession persuasive companion. And the companion it's tied with requires 25 Renown: Rubbery Men so it's a lot easier to obtain. Other than that, while there are certainly some strong items there for the early to mid game they are all out classed by other high end late game items.

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    8/16/2016
    41 actions, still waiting

    EDIT: in ten minutes, I will be able to turn it in with 43 actions spent this morning, plus an uncounted number last night. Then I will limp back to London to lower my Wounds from seven and my Nightmares from nine.

    Now I remember why I detest this festival.
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    Mr Sables
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    8/16/2016
    Mordaine Barimen wrote:
    41 actions, still waiting

    EDIT: in ten minutes, I will be able to turn it in with 43 actions spent this morning, plus an uncounted number last night. Then I will limp back to London to lower my Wounds from seven and my Nightmares from nine.

    Now I remember why I detest this festival.
    edited by Mordaine Barimen on 8/16/2016



    I wouldn't recommend that!

    Going back to London will make you have to go through the Mirror Marshes/State of Some Confusion, and then battle with the Boatman . . . it'll take up an ungodly amount of action points, plus has no content you probably haven't seen before.

    On the island, hand over your catch to the two guys who promise to lower your menaces - this should take them to basically zero, which is only one action point per guy. Saving you a lot of time and energy!
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    phryne
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    8/16/2016
    Guys, you know that successful fishing is all about being patient, right? wink

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    phryne
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    8/16/2016
    @Robin/Mordaine/rahv7: You seem to suffer from the RNG's extreme disfavour. I recommend sacrificing a few bats or weasels on your irrigo shrine (you have one, right???)

    winkwink

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    Barse
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    8/16/2016
    I can confirm, you only get to meet her once. Clever FBG knew we'd try to use it to farm Blackmail Material/Diamonds/FiHP. Good foresight on their part.

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    Vincent Asmund
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    8/18/2016
    I, too, have taken over 40 items to acquire four items, with two/three left to go. I admit it can be frustrating, however, there is a bit of fun to it.

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    Skinnyman
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    8/18/2016
    We do have two weeks at our disposal and it's a nice change from the boring grinds; battle with RNG!
    But, if after 10 days, you'll have two or three items to acquire that will be very frustrating!

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    genesis
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    8/18/2016
    Robin, what rewards do you mean in "punished over and over and over, without any rewards"?

    Do you mean echo value? I haven't done any calculations myself but I'd be surprised if the echo value is low. When fishing, even at the lowest levels you can get magnificent diamonds etc. When enjoying the sights, my hauls have tended to be in region of 1.7-2 echos, which is not bad at all. Sure you also get menaces but menace reduction options *also* give you resources and, mostly importantly, partial maps that you can use for better fishing.

    Do you mean the unique items? If so, then I would say that this is a 2-week long festival with at most 6 unique rewards that do not require Fate. So it's not very surprising that FBG have statistically allowed on average 2 days per reward. They need to make sure the content lasts. Sure it's possible that you can get very lucky and get all your rewards quickly but that way frustration lies, indeed.

    My approach has been as follows. Do several rounds of sight seeing, plowing in resources and accumulating menaces. Intermittently, fish using quirks only and do not waste resources. Dump the catch to reduce menaces and get partial maps. Do this several times until you have a good stock of partial maps (you should also be up on resources/echoes generally). Then start fishing more seriously: do one round with quirks only or possibly a couple of minor resources aiming to finish at RB 6. Dump and restart from 3. Do this again now using resources more liberally but probably not using more than 1 partial map. Your aim is to go to 8 and then dump to 4. Now go all out, using any and all resources and quirk top ups, aiming for 10. Obviously, even this is not guaranteed to get you your desired items but you will still be getting valuable resources from the cove and, as I mentioned above, your overall resource pile gets larger as you do this again and again.

    Does this seem like it takes a long time? Sure. But I believe it is both *meant* to take this long and the coincidental resource accumulation makes it worthwhile.

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    8/17/2016
    Arandia wrote:
    Has it been established whether the Strange Catch quality is ALWAYS lowered upon entering Wreckers' Cove?



    I can say with 98% certainty that this is not true, I've aimed for items with the same level of strange catch and gotten them. RNG sucks but in my opinion if you want an item then your best bet is to get that exact strange catch value and hope it doesn't drop.

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    8/23/2016
    Thank you very much - you're too kind! Naturally, everyone here's quite welcome to speculate and theorise as much as they like - I have my yardstick for deciding what I believe, and you'll have yours.

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    8/21/2016
    I got 12. It's on my mantelpiece. The description remains the same. There was no mystery here. Only ashes.

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    Barse
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    8/30/2016
    I think the Mutton Island ferry option actually is unlocked by Sights at the Feast, so can you stay on the island as long as you want and leave via that (which removes the Sights quality so no more free zailing for you). Needless to say, the Ferry option in London will disappear if it hasn't already.
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    Stygota
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    8/24/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    ...The simplest explanations are often the best when dealing with human characters: Jenny honestly reminisced, Miss Plenty wants fish, you find the washed up wimple at Wreckers Cove after giving Miss Plenty a fish, Jenny seizes upon your find to improvise some drama, cranky Sister Lydia tosses it back, you find it again. Simple, straightforward...


    [spoiler]Regarding Plenty's desire for fish and catches, there are snippets here and there regarding her appetites. There is a "bonus" storylet for the season of Heart's Blood that gains you entry to an elite group of gourmands' dinner. It is a special dinner, at least as implied by the lead up to the actual feasting. You join Mrs. Plenty and together sample an array of dishes. There's also a bit of a snippet in the Eaten content that hints at her "tastes" coming from both her upbringing on Mutton Island and her status as a maiden of wells...[/spoiler]
    I agree that simple explanations are best in this case. Jenny does seem to love to perform every time you meet her prior to the election and the festival.

    Edit: I finally got the last item I needed this year, the blasted Scrimshander Carving Knife. It took the better part of a week to land it, even managing to roll 3-5 constantly by using my one or two under-leveled quirks. I can finally resume my hobbies of Vake-hunting and well-diving.
    edited by Stygota on 8/24/2016
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    Bonny Kate
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    8/26/2016
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    Most of the Zee Catches during the Festival have been between 7 and 9 when I reeled them in. That got me (by chance and the RNG) just about all of the special items for this year. I gave up with my main and spent my last 5 Fate for the Scrimhander Knife, and my alt is still struggling to get the boots--her Strange Catch keeps getting chopped down to below the minimum for the boots when she turns it in.

    The moral of this story is that I would recommend against trying to get a really low Strange Catch unless you were going for the low items. For everything else, it's better to aim higher and assume that the value will be chopped down.


    I finally got the Scrimshander Carving Knife. But it took a *lot* of Running Battle / Zee Catches at level 5. I managed to get level 3 once. (I wasn't tracking it, but it was at least two days worth of actions just trying for the Scrimshander Knife.) If you can try for level 4, you'll probably have better luck fishing for the Knife.

    It's just really hard when you have high quirks that you don't want to sacrifice.

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    8/24/2016
    Bonny Kate wrote:
    I just want to say that getting the wimple twice and the Submerged Rector once is turning out to be a lot easier than getting that Scrimshander Carving Knife once. That's what I get for having very high quirks, I suppose. I may have to see about tanking one of my quirks, since no matter what I do, I can't seem to end up with Running Battle below 5.


    Kate, that's been my situation exactly--with both my main and my alt (though my alt's quirks are much lower, and more variable, on average). Still, my alt has been having a terrible time getting the last Festival item for her collection--the boots.

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    Dominitus
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    8/23/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    cranky Sister Lydia tosses it back


    In all the theorising, I'd completely forgotten about Sister Lydia. That's absolutely what happened. Big Grin
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    8/23/2016
    I love your posts, Sir Fred! smile

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    8/23/2016
    I just want to say that getting the wimple twice and the Submerged Rector once is turning out to be a lot easier than getting that Scrimshander Carving Knife once. That's what I get for having very high quirks, I suppose. I may have to see about tanking one of my quirks, since no matter what I do, I can't seem to end up with Running Battle below 5.

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    8/17/2016
    Arandia wrote:
    Has it been established whether the Strange Catch quality is ALWAYS lowered upon entering Wreckers' Cove?
    It doesn't always happen: everytime you visit the Cove, there's the possibility of everything between (and including) losing 50% of your SC value and no SC loss at all.

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/17/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    The Feast options to clear menaces do not wipe. I went from being 1 CP of wounds away from 8 to being 1 CP of wounds away from 4.

    Also, I don't know if the RNG loves or hates me, because I succeeded twice in a row at a 20% success Quirk challenge, when I was trying to fail and get a lower Catch value.


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    dov
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    8/17/2016
    The Master wrote:
    going back to London from mutton island takes 10 actions, fishing takes 10 actions and you dont need to spend anything, you can fish and then use the catch to reduce your wounds by alot on the mutton island, this is most likely more efficent.

    Well, that depends on if you're lucky enough to even get the options which let you trade you're catch for menace reduction. You can accumulate lots of Wounds and Nightmares just waiting for an option to reduce them.

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    8/17/2016
    ggscv wrote:


    Are you checking the "picking through wreckers cove" value? Because that is the ultimate decider of which item you get. Generally from my experience, your picking through cove value never gets lower than your strange catch value minus 2, so if you get 9 strange catch then you should be guaranteed to get a 7 (and hence a wimple). Check your head gear and make sure you don't already actually have a wimple.


    I haven't had a chance yet to edit the numbers on my original post.

    I was finally able to get the wimple with 9 this morning; now have to apparently rely on the RNG to use it, followed by another RNG (attempt to get to 9) to get the other options that a catch of 7 brings . . . I still dislike the RNG elements to this festival, but it could probably have been alleviated by a note that getting to 9 guarantees you top items (if this is the case), as that does make it easier to know what to aim toward, as well as less stressful. Thanks for the head's up on that.

    Edit: Just took sixteen actions to finally be able to lower my menaces; didn't realise the option for Jenny appears at the same place, so I clicked automatically and missed it . . . could take me sixteen more to find again . . . it's just infuriating without any real reason to be, as there's no reason to make so much of things RNG based.
    edited by Robin Alexander on 8/17/2016
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    8/17/2016
    ggscv wrote:
    Are you checking the "picking through wreckers cove" value? Because that is the ultimate decider of which item you get. Generally from my experience, your picking through cove value never gets lower than your strange catch value minus 2, so if you get 9 strange catch then you should be guaranteed to get a 7 (and hence a wimple). Check your head gear and make sure you don't already actually have a wimple.


    That's too risky. The running theory is that PtWC can go as low as half your Strange Catch value. Certainly I just went from 10 to 6

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    Arandia
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    8/17/2016
    I finally got the wimple for the second time - meaning I now have all unique items there are to be gotten from this year's festival, and am officially done. Even though the RNG was a bit harsh at times, I think that getting it all done in three days indicates that it was not too bad.
    Now, since this is my first time on Mutton Island since becoming stormy-eyed, I shall stay a little longer ... and then head back to London. Good luck to all of you who are still trying to wrench items from the RNG's maw!

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    8/18/2016
    As long as you have enough items to burn through, I found that getting to 9 (10, if I'm particularly lucky) requires only two rounds of fishing; as far as I can see, unless you have terrible luck, by choosing as often as you can the item fueled options and the last quirk altering sprint, getting to 8 in a single round isn't unusual at all; if you throw back your catch, do one more bout starting at 4, and hope to get at least one Partial Map option (which to me happens more often than not, but I might have been lucky so far), getting to 9, or to 10 if more than one appears, isn't particularly unusual.

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    Tozh Taurog
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    8/18/2016
    On menace reductions - the catch level seems to matter. I had a catch level 1 (I'm very new, and was trying to increase the quirks), and giving it to Curate got my nightmares from 5 to 2. Later, on catch 6 it wiped Nightmares from level 7+. So at extreme low values of catch it matters. Probably just maxes at something reasonably low, so any decent catch wipes it and higher level players never notice smile

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    RandomWalker
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    8/19/2016
    If you have stormy eyes and haven't seen the conclusion to that, it might be worthwhile to grind that up on the usual island carousel, but if you're looking for profit, stick with the mainland, or apparently Apis Meet.
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    8/18/2016
    Why does the Drownie-song option when fishing mention the Loquacious Vicar instead of the Melancholy Curate?

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    8/18/2016
    Lizhly wrote:
    Sorry if this has been asked already, but I'm running fairly quickly out of cartography items. Is turning in strange catches the only way to grind them during the festival?


    Keep in mind you only need to use Map Scraps if you'll fail both Quirk options: they give the same amount of Running Battle.

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    8/18/2016
    I think someone calculated it as 12 last year? To get it you need 2 runs that are entirely exchanging partial maps, so I don't think anyone has seen it.

    Edit: the wiki has room for up to strange catch 14, but has only filled in up to 11.
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    8/18/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:

    What is the result of getting the wimple again? Does it allow you to replay the meeting with the Mayor? Does it open up a continuation of the storyline? Is it just an item now>

    You just get to keep it as an equippable souvenir.

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    8/18/2016
    After a lot of catches and much frustration (my Catches with 9 value turning all into 6 and, in one infuriating case, 5) I FINALLY got the Submerged Rector in BOTH accounts, almost at the same time (of course I will rp that both the Professor and Derek met him together). My main have the Rector, the Cape and the Boots, my alt have the Rector, the Cape, the Boots and the Drownie Effluvia (ew).

    Now, let me see if I can get the wimple and the lesser items.

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    8/17/2016
    I find it relaxing.

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    8/16/2016
    Corvo wrote:
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Corvo wrote:
    RandomWalker wrote:
    Don't quite follow the question, but the only non-repeatable content in the festival is the meeting with the mayor, as far as I'm aware, although you can only pick up items you don't already have. Just get a bother catch and try again.

    Yeah, I jsut got the card to pick up another reward from teh festival. Thansk for the help, sorry for bothering.

    You seem to have a lithp.


    A lithp? Sorry, I don't know what you mean.

    Don't worry, it's a joke. "Lithp" is "Lisp" when said with a lisp, because you insert a lot of S'es into your speech.

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    8/16/2016
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:

    Don't worry, it's a joke. "Lithp" is "Lisp" when said with a lisp, because you insert a lot of S'es into your speech.



    Ah, I see, thanks for explaining.

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    RandomWalker
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    8/16/2016
    When the RNG deigns to smile on you, you'll have the option to trade in the wimple to the Mayor. The Mayor will take you to the lighthouse and discuss how her term in office is going - she's concerned that the Masters are using her efforts for their own ends.

    You can either advise her to stay the course, or to oppose the Masters. I didn't notice any qualities changing whichever you choose. When you leave, you're ambushed by a reporter. No idea what happens if you sell out or take a bribe to stay schtum, but if you keep quiet you get a quality and a Favours in High Places. No unique items.
    edited by RandomWalker on 8/16/2016
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    8/16/2016
    Pyrodinium wrote:
    @ responses to my question.

    Thanks for the responses. Hmm... I'm not that thrilled with burning Partial Maps for lucky draws. I'm thinking of sitting this Feast through unless they also provide a decent way of recouping those items.



    The trick is to do a run with just quirks, and then trade that catch in with the Curate or the Chef. Either one will give you the items you need for the high-investment runs, and will effectively wipe either Nightmares or Wounds (depending on who you choose) to boot. It isn't a bad system.
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    8/15/2016
    Cthonius wrote:
    It seems like a wipe, having just gone from Nightmares 6 to 0.

    Happy for my first Fruits Festival. Finally can get a destiny. Though I'm still figuring a few mechanics out, seems fun.


    If I'm remembering correctly from previous years, the menace cure is not a complete wipe, but it is a very large cure (wiki estimates roughly 30 cp, and it could be a range). That's based on data from two years ago, though, so for all we know they've changed it since then.

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    8/15/2016
    dov wrote:
    I gained pretty much everything I wanted from the last fruits of the zee festival, is there anything new to get this year? Any worthwhile new content?

    There are a couple of options relating to our Mayor Sinning Jenny.

    All the old prizes were apparently removed (you can sill get them with Fate) and replaced with new items.

    With a catch level of 7 or more (confirmed with level 8) there are two new items to find:
    • A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
    • Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple. I expect this to have some follow up in London, since to get it you need to have no 'An Encounter with the Mayor Of London'

    Others have reported on this thread and on the wiki about other new items:

    • A cured jillyfleur cloak. Catch level 6. Stats not mentioned.
    • Wrecking Boots. Requires catch level 5. Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1
    • A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia. Catch level 4. Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1



    Anyone mention the "Scrimshander Carving Knife" yet? Watchful +3, Persuasive +2, Dangerous -1.
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    8/15/2016
    I gained pretty much everything I wanted from the last fruits of the zee festival, is there anything new to get this year? Any worthwhile new content?

    There are a couple of options relating to our Mayor Sinning Jenny.

    All the old prizes were apparently removed (you can sill get them with Fate) and replaced with new items.

    With a catch level of 7 or more (confirmed with level 8) there are two new items to find:
    • A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
    • Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple. I expect this to have some follow up in London, since to get it you need to have no 'An Encounter with the Mayor Of London'

    Others have reported on this thread and on the wiki about other new items:

    • A cured jillyfleur cloak. Catch level 6. Stats not mentioned.
    • Wrecking Boots. Requires catch level 5. Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1
    • A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia. Catch level 4. Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1


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    8/15/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    Wilhelm Klossner wrote:
    I have recently (a day ago) created a new character after my old one decided to venture North. I have no items, no stats and no quirks. Is it still possible for me to get special items out of the Festival? I would love to participate but struggle to evaluate how feasible that is.


    You need 10 rostygold to participate. An it'll be harder without quirks, but at the end there is a quirk increasing choice. I'd say you could get a couple items


    Bear in mind that if you fail the quirk challenges, your quirks will increase. Also bear in mind that the festival can be very rewarding. I'd say head out there. You can turn in catches to the Curate and that other guy for the items you need for fishing, so you should be able to get everything from the festival, with a little patience.
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    8/15/2016
    sent PM to BlabberingMat

    Everyone similarly confused/undecided about Destinies, have a look over here! smile
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    8/15/2016
    So, uhh... I got the boots, at first they did have a description but no stats, now they have "persuasive +6 dangerous +4 shadowy -1" which doesn't fit the description on their option in the cave: "Equipped in your Boots slot, the Wrecking Boots increases your Shadowy and Dangerous."

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    8/15/2016
    ...well, I made my decision. For better or worse.
    ...I am kinda scared.

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    8/15/2016
    New item: Wrecking Boots. Requires 5 catch. Gives +6 Persuasive, +4 dangerous, -1 Shadowy.

    Only one minor catch - I can't seem to equip them. I'll send a bug report.
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    8/15/2016
    Currently trying to find Sinning Jenny's Wimple. I was hoping to "fish" it out of the zee but it doesn't seem to be there, or at the lighthouse.

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    8/15/2016
    Help! I can't decide on my Destiny! XD. I might spend an eternity here, among the Drownies, eating flesh of unknown beast

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    8/15/2016
    Unless I missed something before, there's new items! "A cured jillyfleur cloak"
    Also, unless I can't find it, there's no way for a late game seeker to get the torment destiny without fate. Which is disappointing, as it was unobtainable for years.
    edited by suinicide on 8/15/2016

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    8/15/2016
    Could I kindly ask the lovely FBG to have Sights at the Festival work like the Airs qualities - in the Randomizer category and with visible range requirements on the branches?
    edited by genesis on 8/15/2016

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    8/15/2016
    Wilhelm Klossner wrote:
    I have recently (a day ago) created a new character after my old one decided to venture North. I have no items, no stats and no quirks. Is it still possible for me to get special items out of the Festival? I would love to participate but struggle to evaluate how feasible that is.


    You need 10 rostygold to participate. An it'll be harder without quirks, but at the end there is a quirk increasing choice. I'd say you could get a couple items

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    8/15/2016
    Looks like the cloak can't be equipped too.

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    Wilhelm Klossner
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    8/15/2016
    I have recently (a day ago) created a new character after my old one decided to venture North. I have no items, no stats and no quirks. Is it still possible for me to get special items out of the Festival? I would love to participate but struggle to evaluate how feasible that is.

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    8/15/2016
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    I am wondering, did anyone noticed difference in gained CP when passing quirk checks and using Zee Stories/Partial Maps? Is it better to use exclusively one of those ways?



    According to the wiki,
    Quirks and map scrap = +2 cp
    Zee Story = +5 cp
    Partial Map = +10 cp

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    SarahTheEntwife
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    8/15/2016
    Wow! This is my first Fruits of the Zee festival and the Destiny storyline is going up there in all time favorite storylets, from a sheer writing/storytelling perspective.

    I'm still a bit unclear how to get the item-gifts from Strange Catches, though. Am I just not seeing that option? I gave one to the Rector and got map scraps and assorted non-unique things, and then on my second trip I got to the Destiny storyline.

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    8/15/2016
    @- they have replaced all of the items with new ones.
    @ignatustone the festival is on the island, not in london. So its just the same stuff happening there. Don't miss anything, but the ferry is better than your boat.

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    A value of Wrecker's Cove 7 or higher, I think. Get your Running Battle up pretty high, it's not a direct 1:1!

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    There will be an option if your Airs are right to trade it in with a Hooded Lady. Just play options in the Festival storylet until that one appears - it may take some time.
    edited by Barselaar on 8/15/2016

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/16/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Pyrodinium wrote:
    @ responses to my question.

    Thanks for the responses. Hmm... I'm not that thrilled with burning Partial Maps for lucky draws. I'm thinking of sitting this Feast through unless they also provide a decent way of recouping those items.



    This festival is eating my action points, so I can't check in a hurry but:
    I think there is an option that gives partial maps, zee stories, and map scraps. It's a good way to recoup what you lose, or to gain enough to use (for new-comers without such items) . . . I think it sacrifices your catch, though, but you can always use said items to get another catch.

    I am sure I got one partial map earlier, and I think it was rare success on some of the options that require...Watchful? I am pretty sure it was Watchful. And it didn't consume my Catch.

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    Barse
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    8/16/2016
    Someone told me you got a Magnificent Diamond. This is second hand info, however, so someone might want to confirm.

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    8/16/2016
    So, I had a catch and had unsuccessfully cycled the airs a few times before bed trying to find the Hooded Lady to cash it in. This morning, I've already used 38 actions and am still holding this stupid fish.

    These mechanics are pathetic.

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    Mr Sables
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    8/16/2016
    Mordaine Barimen wrote:
    So, I had a catch and had unsuccessfully cycled the airs a few times before bed trying to find the Hooded Lady to cash it in. This morning, I've already used 38 actions and am still holding this stupid fish.

    These mechanics are pathetic.



    Yeah, they're annoying me, too . . .

    I don't remember them being so harsh last year.

    That being said, FBG seem to listen to the players' comments a lot, as well as tweak things as festivals go on . . . if it stays particularly harsh, or a large percentage of players take objection, it's possible they'll open a permanent storylet for the lady, up the RNG odds, or even just make sure she appears automatically when you get a catch on each cycle. It's still only the second day, after all.

    They were quite good with the Feast of the Rose, so I have faith they'd do the same this time, too.
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    Optimatum
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    8/15/2016
    Harlocke wrote:
    Can you get the same item twice? If not, it would make sense to get all the cheaper items first, so you don't risk getting one of them when you go for the +7 running battle items.

    You cannot get the same item twice, but you can only get them with exact values of Picking Through the Wrecker's Cove. As such the opposite strategy is better - going for a higher-value item risks getting a lower value, so intentionally getting the lower value items first could force you to choose a cheap generic reward.

    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    This is my first Festival, so I'm wondering, are there any items - right now or from the previous years - that are best in slot or otherwise notable?

    I'm a min-maxing kind of guy, and I'd like to be sure whether I can relax and do whatever or whether there's something I really need to get first. If all the items are outclassed by other things, I can just get some lore (and a destiny!) instead of grinding for any particular thing.



    The Submerged Rector is tied for best free Persuasive companion. The other items are not notable mechanics-wise, though some lower certain stats when equipped, which is handy for tweaking stats for grinding. Note that the current items may not be available in future years for free though; the old items were available for the past two years only.

    Also if you wish to min-max further, the two best Destinies are Fate-locked (to the tune of 10 Fate) and give +8 total in bonuses, +5 to one stat like the rest alongside +3 to another. There are five destiny branches when choosing a destiny; two each have an option for one of the two mentioned above, and the Obscure Future allows neither.

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    8/15/2016
    The option to buy a Bloodstained Eolith with Fate appears to be unlocked with having no Ambiguous Eolith, instead of having no Bloodstained Eolith. Haven't clicked on it, so don't know which item you actually get for the 15 Fate.

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    Barse
    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    You can get the Wimple this year! Needs Wrecker's Cove 7+. I'm pretty sure the Catch:Cove is random - it seems it can be as much as half your catch level, or simply your catch level. That seems to be the variance.

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    RandomWalker
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    8/16/2016
    Don't quite follow the question, but the only non-repeatable content in the festival is the meeting with the mayor, as far as I'm aware, although you can only pick up items you don't already have. Just get a bother catch and try again.
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    Kylestien
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    8/17/2016
    So... what does one do with the wimple?

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    Harlocke
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    8/16/2016
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    rahv7 wrote:
    You have a 15% chance to meet the Hooded Lady, so statistically speaking, roughly every 7 tries. I know the feeling though. I've also invested about 20 actions recently only to give my Catch to the Chef because my Wounds were dangerously high.


    I prefer to hang onto my Catch and deal with Wounds by eating Rubbery Lumps. Yes, it uses a lot of actions, but at least it lets you control how high your Wounds get more easily.


    Is that more efficient than just heading back to London periodically to rest and/or quaff healing tonics? A round trip is 10 extra actions, but at least you can reduce menaces fairly quickly. And it also lets you draw cards while you wait for actions to refresh, so you get menace reducers as well as any valuable cards worth playing despite the festival.

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    thedeadlymoose
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    8/17/2016
    FYI, in response to someone somewhere asking if the Chef wipes Wounds entirely: he doesn't. I had Wounds 7 +4CP, and a Catch of 6 took me down to Wounds 2 +1CP. Not sure if the Catch level mattered.

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    The Master
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    8/17/2016
    Harlocke wrote:
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    rahv7 wrote:
    You have a 15% chance to meet the Hooded Lady, so statistically speaking, roughly every 7 tries. I know the feeling though. I've also invested about 20 actions recently only to give my Catch to the Chef because my Wounds were dangerously high.


    I prefer to hang onto my Catch and deal with Wounds by eating Rubbery Lumps. Yes, it uses a lot of actions, but at least it lets you control how high your Wounds get more easily.


    Is that more efficient than just heading back to London periodically to rest and/or quaff healing tonics? A round trip is 10 extra actions, but at least you can reduce menaces fairly quickly. And it also lets you draw cards while you wait for actions to refresh, so you get menace reducers as well as any valuable cards worth playing despite the festival.


    going back to London from mutton island takes 10 actions, fishing takes 10 actions and you dont need to spend anything, you can fish and then use the catch to reduce your wounds by alot on the mutton island, this is most likely more efficent.

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    8/16/2016
    Yes, and it's about as common as the Hooded Lady Strange Catch trade-in! wink
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    BlabberingMat
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    8/16/2016
    I am gonna take a break from Mutton, get back in a day or two...I got Destiny, Wrecking Boots and Cloak, anyway. Effluvia and Wimple will have to wait until I am a little less irritated with RNG

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    8/16/2016
    It's impossible to aim for a particular level of Cove-Picking. The only way is to try and try and try again...

    BlabberingMat wrote:
    So, you get to meet the Mayor again, then?

    I don't know yet since I'm out of actions. But I don't think so, the text from picking up the Wimple a second time said something along the lines of her not being interested in it anymore. Guess it's just a souvenir now...
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    Vincent Asmund
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    8/18/2016
    What level of SC do I need for Wrecking Boots? It's the only item I have left.

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    Mr Sables
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    Posts: 597

    8/18/2016
    Is anyone else getting pretty frustrated this year around?

    I spent over 20 actions trying to get the Hooded Lady, had to give up to reduce my menaces, and went on to get a 9 Catch, which failed to get me anything from the Lady (because of RNG powers). I now have to cycle back around; land a catch, trade it for partial maps, do it again to try and get above 9, and then bow to the whim of the RNG . . . wasting probably 40 action points in the process.

    I don't mind the RNG, if it provides a reason and is fairly balanced, as it can be at odd stat checks or for the Fidgeting Writer, but for this . . . I don't know.

    Games are supposed to be fun, and - as someone else said - a 'carrot and stick' kind of thing . . . there should be as many rewards as there are punishments, even if it's just trivial snippets or items, because then you have something to work for and feel your time isn't being wasted . . . at the minute, it feels like a waste, because it's virtually impossible to get anywhere, and I have no incentive to get my EF early, because then I'd be wasting real-life money (more action points, but relying on the RNG, so potentially just wasting more for the same outcome). This stopped being fun as of this morning. I'm tempted to pack-up as some others have done, to head back to London.

    Am I alone in this? :-S
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    Mr Sables
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    Posts: 597

    8/18/2016
    Suncatcher wrote:
    I've never had a problem with the RNG at the festival. I mean yeah, it took me all week last year to finish my collection of unique items, and I've only gotten two of them so far this year, but fishing is all about patience and enjoying the experience. Sit back, enjoy some rubbery lumps, dance with some drownies, throw fish at preachers to avoid being thrown out for insanity, and let what comes come. It would be an awfully boring celebration if you just burned the same hundred actions in the same order as every other player and went home.

    (Also, in the past your Picking value has ranged from 1 to the value of your Catch, so if it's only going as low as half your fish number this year, that's awfully generous of them. I definitely turned a level 9 fish into a level 1 reward on multiple occasions).



    True, but generally if I catch a seven-pound fish in real-life, it doesn't then drop in value to a two-pound fish by the time I find someone to record said fish's weight . . . or said person that will one minute be at the peer, the next require me to spend six hours looking for them, and another minute just be gone entirely until you have to throw said fish back in frustration, due to your hands having grown frostbite from holding it and now needing medical treatment. I don't have any problems with the catch, but the conversion afterwards into your rewards and the ability to trade in for rewards . . .

    If the randomised ability to find the Hooded Lady or the random conversion from Catch to Cove existed, it'd be fine, but both together -? It makes the game particularly frustrating, to the point I'm debating whether to even bother, because you're incessantly being punished over and over and over, without any rewards (despite having spent ten actions to get your catch and enjoying the process of said catch).

    I think Anne Auclair is right that the festival has so much to offer, but it's ruined for me by the fact that I can spend days upon days just using up action points and gaining menaces to get absolutely nowhere . . . it's unnecessarily harsh with two rounds of RNG levels. One gaining you menaces, one that potentially destroys your catch.

    Anne Auclair wrote:
    The RNG can be sharp, but at its most painful it's merely a friendly neighborhood version of the Mr. Enten storyline (rather fitting, given the peculiarities of the local mystery cult).


    Exactly!

    If I wanted to play a punishing and painful storyline, I would have chosen the Mr Eaten storyline wink
    edited by Robin Alexander on 8/18/2016
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    8/18/2016
    After a couple of rounds and one very dramatic incident of going insane and finding myself back in London, I worked out that the optimal strategy for high-catch rewards was to do two low-catch runs to reduce both menaces to 0 and get a bunch of partial maps. Now you have low menaces to shuffle Airs, and 4-6 maps for high catch runs!

    It's also nice that the airs-shuffling options and the strange catch rewards even when you miss the right Cove value are decently profitable, so you never feel like you're completely wasting actions (cough Winking Isle). I like that the menace-gain, menace-reduction, cartography-item-gain and cartography-item-expenditure are all in the same place - it's pleasantly self-contained and I don't have to worry about spending the actions to go back and forth from London.

    My strategy has been successful enough that I'm now trying my best to get a VERY low-catch run to grab the knife. All strange catches I grab from now on are going into the menace reduction (I'm obviously alternating nightmares and wounds as I shuffle airs) or the hooded lady.

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    Lizhly
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    8/18/2016
    Dear lord, she's Mrs. Plenty? I was planning on calling her out sometime soon, but I hadn't wanted to waste my chance at turning in my strange catch...

    I'm having fun at the festival! But yeah, it's taking me a considerable number of actions to get to the lady - I've been starting to pick just the nightmare-inducing ones if I can, since I've got a goldfish of an exceedingly optimistic nature as my companion. It was a bit irritating at first, since the first few times I tried my hand at the Fruits of the Festival card, I had to give up and turn in my strange catch so I wouldn't go insane or die, only for her to appear IMMEDIATELY after that. I was decidedly unthrilled.


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    8/18/2016
    TozhTaurog wrote:
    On menace reductions - the catch level seems to matter. I had a catch level 1 (I'm very new, and was trying to increase the quirks), and giving it to Curate got my nightmares from 5 to 2. Later, on catch 6 it wiped Nightmares from level 7+. So at extreme low values of catch it matters. Probably just maxes at something reasonably low, so any decent catch wipes it and higher level players never notice smile



  • Okay, yeah, that seems to be the case. I had been assuming that any catch would wipe it out. But I turned in my catch at either 4 or 5 and it knocked nightmares down from 8+ to 4+.

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    8/19/2016
    So, anyone else taking the opportunity to grind their quirks?

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    genesis
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    8/20/2016
    I think I am missing something... When you recover the wimple the second time you cannot return it the second time (as far as I can see). But the *first* time you return it, the branch requires you only to have a wimple (it doesn't lock when you have Encountered the Mayor quality). So based on that, you should be able to return the wimple again..

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    Myrto
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    8/18/2016
    Curse you, RNG! I can't seem to get the boots or the knife, though not for lack of trying. Even my lower level character can't seem to fail the quirk challenges, even the "tough" ones.

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    8/18/2016
    genesis wrote:


    Do several rounds of sight seeing, plowing in resources and accumulating menaces. Intermittently, fish using quirks only and do not waste resources. Dump the catch to reduce menaces and get partial maps. Do this several times until you have a good stock of partial maps (you should also be up on resources/echoes generally). Then start fishing more seriously: do one round with quirks only or possibly a couple of minor resources aiming to finish at RB 6. Dump and restart from 3. Do this again now using resources more liberally but probably not using more than 1 partial map. Your aim is to go to 8 and then dump to 4. Now go all out, using any and all resources and quirk top ups, aiming for 10.



  • That sounds remarkably more efficient than what I've been doing. I've been fishing using as many resources as I possibly can, then spamming the Fruits of the Festival card in the hope I get zee ztories and a chance at the lady, with the occasional break to clear my menaces. I suppose it's been working, but it's not particularly good to my cartography items, no.

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    8/19/2016
    One fish, two fish, red fish, rubbery fish.

    Got almost all the unique items, except for that d__nable Carving Knife. Still, it's a nice change of pace to not worry about Opportunity Cards constantly, though it is getting in the way of my Wave Making grind.

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    After all, Fallen or not, England must take care of it's own. We aren't the French![/spoiler]
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    WinterIV
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    8/19/2016
    And I think with that, I have fished everything I need from the Zee this year.

    Just to make sure I am not missing anything. I got the knife, the cloak, the bottle of goo, the boots, the rector, the wimple, and then the wimple again (Just for grins).

    Am I missing anything else? Any chance of something new unlocking towards the end of the festival?
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    Grenem
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    8/19/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Tarantula wrote:
    New flavor text for the catches.

    Huh?

    agreed. unless that is a change from festival 1, i don't see any changes.

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    8/19/2016
    WinterIV wrote:
    And I think with that, I have fished everything I need from the Zee this year.

    Just to make sure I am not missing anything. I got the knife, the cloak, the bottle of goo, the boots, the rector, the wimple, and then the wimple again (Just for grins).

    Am I missing anything else? Any chance of something new unlocking towards the end of the festival?

    try to get all the lore and the interesting rare successes, like the rant on proper drownies from the one you dance with.

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    8/19/2016
    Good luck with the conversion, Anne! Hope it won't turn into a 6 like mine!
    Had some RNG curses, but I kind of enjoy this festival! 7, 8, 9, 11 into 6, 4 into 4, 9 into 7 (yay!), 3 used to cure wounds because the Lady wasn't willing to show up (more than 40 as I'm EF). Big Grin Maybe the fish you catch aren't that great or are to "dead" or they're full of nasty bugs (?)!
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    8/19/2016
    Any particularly profitable grinds available on Mutton Island for the Festival?

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    8/16/2016
    At least 7. Running battles goes directly to catch. And catch is randomized (But not more than it was originally) when you exchange it for a prize.

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    Arandia
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    8/17/2016
    Has it been established whether the Strange Catch quality is ALWAYS lowered upon entering Wreckers' Cove?
    I am aiming for the Effluvia (as I have all the rest, apart from the second wimple which I cannot get yet as I am still holding onto the first one), so I need Picking through Wrecker's Cove 4.

    Now I am wondering whether I should patiently keep aiming for Strange Catch 4, or whether that will definitely never be enough. The reason why I would like to aim for 4 is that this level is always so easily reached through quirks, without sacrificing any items or throwing back my catch.
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    8/17/2016
    I got four unique items (counting the Wimple) and I plan to get all of them!


    Two to go, three if I want the Wimple again!
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    8/18/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Does the catch level impact the rewards you get from giving it to the Curate or the Chief?

    I haven't seen any clear cut evidence, but i doubt it makes enough impact to be worth leveling further anyways, aside from ensuring you hit lv. 6 rather than stopping at 5. past that, after all, it starts costing echoes.

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    8/18/2016
    Parelle wrote:
    Lizhly wrote:
    Sorry if this has been asked already, but I'm running fairly quickly out of cartography items. Is turning in strange catches the only way to grind them during the festival?


    Keep in mind you only need to use Map Scraps if you'll fail both Quirk options: they give the same amount of Running Battle.


    Damn. I've been clicking on the Map Scrap option every time it's come up. Guess I'll just listen to drownie song for zee ztories.



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    8/18/2016
    I managed to get a level 9 catch, and when I went to the wrecker's Cove to recover the Wimple again, I got Picking level 5...

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    8/18/2016
    Lamia Lawless wrote:
    dov wrote:
    With a catch level of 7 or more (confirmed with level 8) there are two new items to find:
    • A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
    • Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple. I expect this to have some follow up in London, since to get it you need to have no 'An Encounter with the Mayor Of London'
    Others have reported on this thread and on the wiki about other new items:
    • A cured jillyfleur cloak. Catch level 6. Stats not mentioned.
    • Wrecking Boots. Requires catch level 5. Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1
    • A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia. Catch level 4. Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1

    I had A Strange Catch at 9 and couldn't find the Rector. I also had Strange Catch at 5 and didn't find the Wrecking Boots.
    Aye, dov wrote that two days ago and between then and now a few posts mentioned that the items depend on Picking Through Wrecker's Cove instead.

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    8/18/2016
    Nope, the non-strange catch parts of the festival can give them too (though since they have several successes, I'm not sure which). But I gained over 200 map scraps, so they seem like a good source.
    edited by suinicide on 8/18/2016

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    8/18/2016
    Welp. Guess I'll try it out.

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    8/17/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    *insert low groan here*

    Right, I've started paying attention to my actual 'Strange Catch' number, due to a huge amount of attempts and getting nowhere close to the wimple . . . 7, 8, and 9. No sign of any wimple. I got 7, 8, and 9 since last evening, but still nothing, because - after trolling through the forums - the conversion from Strange Catch to the quality needed is . . . randomised.

    I absolutely loathe RNG events, when they're connected to actual action points, invested items, and time spent away from elsewhere (it's why I don't mind the Fidgeting Writer so much, as it's based around being a gamble, and doesn't feel like it's wasting anything).

    I love this festival, but I would also love a fairer system, because spending days out on the island - just because the RNG hates me - is kind of wasting my time . . . literally, as I can't even get any more prizes at this point, and I can't even see what the lady may be offering before I click, which prevents me from lowering menaces or throwing it back (as it takes a lot of action points just to find her).

    It's . . . stressful.



    Are you checking the "picking through wreckers cove" value? Because that is the ultimate decider of which item you get. Generally from my experience, your picking through cove value never gets lower than your strange catch value minus 2, so if you get 9 strange catch then you should be guaranteed to get a 7 (and hence a wimple). Check your head gear and make sure you don't already actually have a wimple.

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    8/17/2016
    ggscv wrote:

    Are you checking the "picking through wreckers cove" value? Because that is the ultimate decider of which item you get. Generally from my experience, your picking through cove value never gets lower than your strange catch value minus 2, so if you get 9 strange catch then you should be guaranteed to get a 7 (and hence a wimple). Check your head gear and make sure you don't already actually have a wimple.


    Going by comments in this thread, it's closer to being between full and half of your Strange Catch value, so a Catch of 10 could still get you Wreckers Cove of 5 or 6. Admittedly, that feels a bit too much variation, considering how much RNG luck you need to get to even 10 in the first place.

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    8/17/2016
    Ah, according to the wiki, it's a Deep-Zee Catch, then.

    th8827 wrote:
    Also, where do you get a Deep-Zee Catch?
    You don't - it was one of those one-time Fate-locked items you could buy a year ago for some charity cause FB supported.

    Though it might be possible to get them in Apis Meet, too.
    edited by phryne on 8/17/2016

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    8/17/2016
    Thank you two for making that clear - so here I go again, aiming to beat the RNG!

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    8/17/2016
    Hey guys, quick question please. I got the wimple, but the "The Mayor is at the feast!" option doesn't seem to let me give it back. Is there another option for that? If yes, then what's it called and where it occurs?

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    8/17/2016
    Yes, it's another option with the same "Sights at the Festival" value as the Hooded Lady. So, next time you see her, just scroll down a bit...

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    8/17/2016
    phryne wrote:
    Yes, it's another option with the same "Sights at the Festival" value as the Hooded Lady. So, next time you see her, just scroll down a bit...



    oh, okay then, thanks!

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    8/23/2016
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.

    Well it's like what they say, when you're dealing with liars, conspirators and city-stealing alien space bats, paranoia is just common sense.
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    8/23/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Mechanics aside, would it be out of character for Sinning Jenny and Miriam Plenty to plant multiple false wimples in Wreckers Cove for resourceful festival goers to find? They are show business types after all.


    I think it would be very much in character for Miriam Plenty to plant dozens of false but plausible-looking wimples in all kinds of places around Mutton Island. I'm not sure I see Jenny getting mixed up in that type of scam--it's too crude and obvious for her.

    It would however create an opening for the sort of one-on-one, long term, intimate seduction scams that Jenny specializes in.

    'Oh, you brought me my wimple, how moving! Let's go somewhere private where I can confide all sorts of secrets with you and ask for your help!'

    Miriam gets a nice fresh fish, Jenny gets a mark.


    Re: Jenny, isn't it more reasonable to skip the wimple and just confide? Everyone confides to us, the player.

    Edit: Lamenting my failure to finish my fishing trip with 0 Running Battle for curiosity's sake.
    edited by Zoe DeGeest on 8/23/2016

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    8/23/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Mechanics aside, would it be out of character for Sinning Jenny and Miriam Plenty to plant multiple false wimples in Wreckers Cove for resourceful festival goers to find? They are show business types after all.


    I think it would be very much in character for Miriam Plenty to plant dozens of false but plausible-looking wimples in all kinds of places around Mutton Island. I'm not sure I see Jenny getting mixed up in that type of scam--it's too crude and obvious for her.

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    8/22/2016
    Help the vake - by killing the poor.

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    8/23/2016
    5th time's the charm hopefully for getting Jenny's Wimple a second time. The RNG has not been kind.

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    8/21/2016
    I'm pretty sure that this is the quote for 11. Check that you did not actually get 11 by mousing over it in one of the choices where you can use it.

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    8/21/2016
    squiggle wrote:

    Yeah, I'm getting really frustrated. I've been fishing catches 8-10 and get nothing. I've spent around 30 Partial Maps and I lost count of all the other stuff. I also have burned entire sessions just trying to get the Hooded Lady and get nowhere.

    I finally just got a catch 11. But the Lady wouldn't come and all my menaces went out of control. There was no way I was giving up that catch 11 to lower my menaces. My nightmares broke 8 and my wounds just under 8. I finally got the lady, and finally got Cove 7 (my Wimple). But I was immediately banished to The Mirror-Marches where I am stuck now.

    Oh, and I dropped from 200 for both Dangerous & Shadowy to 196 as a penalty.

    Yes, I'm really frustrated.

    Edit: fixed typo, added gripe
    edited by squiggle on 8/21/2016

    Patience, mate, patience! Got a lot of 7-10 (even 11s) turned into a 6, level 3 and 8 catch used to reduce menaces! After that, I decided to get my 7+ only from 11 which, after some failures, got me all of the festival items!
    I even tried to get RB to 12, just for the fun, but didn't made it!

    Luckily...
    Angus Turner wrote:
    I got 12. It's on my mantelpiece. The description remains the same. There was no mystery here. Only ashes.

    Congratulations, mate! It would have been a pity to be in mystery this year as well!

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    8/21/2016
    Skinnyman wrote:

    After that, I decided to get my 7+ only from 11 which, after some failures, got me all of the festival items!


    Congratulations skinnyman! I was really favoured by the RNG this festival - I was able to leave the island with all unique items on Wednesday already. I may head back to talk to the wind for a couple of days, though.

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    8/20/2016
    Finally got all the items in my main! I'm back in London, now. Derek just need to get the second wimple and the knife (not that these items are needed, as he has better ones, but collection). I had a difficult first days, but ended up lucking out in 9 catches (and even got an 11 catch that turned to 8, pretty nice).

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    8/20/2016
    Alright. I got the cloak, the wimple, the effluvia, and the boots. I know I need to get the knife, but anyone know if I'm missing anything else?

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    8/21/2016
    john sledge wrote:
    I don't know how to get the knive. I got all but the weapon. Three days fishing and nothing...


    I've heard that you need a Cove value of 3. I'm personally trying to get it myself, so let's both hope that's correct.

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    8/21/2016
    Does anyone else wish their was something you could do with your strange catch in order to raise your Making Waves? Like a weighing/measuring competition?
    edited by Anne Auclair on 8/21/2016

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    8/21/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Is anyone else getting pretty frustrated this year around?

    Am I alone in this? :-S


    Yeah, I'm getting really frustrated. I've been fishing catches 8-10 and get nothing. I've spent around 30 Partial Maps and I lost count of all the other stuff. I also have burned entire sessions just trying to get the Hooded Lady and get nowhere.

    I finally just got a catch 11. But the Lady wouldn't come and all my menaces went out of control. There was no way I was giving up that catch 11 to lower my menaces. My nightmares broke 8 and my wounds just under 8. I finally got the lady, and finally got Cove 7 (my Wimple). But I was immediately banished to The Mirror-Marches where I am stuck now.

    Oh, and I dropped from 200 for both Dangerous & Shadowy to 196 as a penalty.

    Yes, I'm really frustrated.

    Edit: fixed typo, added gripe
    edited by squiggle on 8/21/2016
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    8/25/2016
    I think the Mayor is going to become a regular feature at every festival. The Mayoral storyline is a strictly chronological that it slowly progresses throughout the year. The presence of the Mayor in a regular or Exceptional story would date them and create continuity issues. Festivals however are also chronological events, the 1894 Festival of the Zee isn't the 1893 Festival, and so the Mayor's story can be safely told during them. So look forward to Jenny appearances during Hallowmass, Sacksmas, and the Feast of the Exceptional Rose.

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    8/27/2016
    MidnightVoyager wrote:
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.


    I've seen QUITE A LOT of this ever since the election stuff. It's getting slightly exhausting.




    But seriously, as much as I enjoy a bit of speculation it has gotten a bit out of hand lately; we should try to keep it this side of the Shadowland BBS.



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    8/26/2016
    Most of the Zee Catches during the Festival have been between 7 and 9 when I reeled them in. That got me (by chance and the RNG) just about all of the special items for this year. I gave up with my main and spent my last 5 Fate for the Scrimhander Knife, and my alt is still struggling to get the boots--her Strange Catch keeps getting chopped down to below the minimum for the boots when she turns it in.

    The moral of this story is that I would recommend against trying to get a really low Strange Catch unless you were going for the low items. For everything else, it's better to aim higher and assume that the value will be chopped down.

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    8/30/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Pnakotic wrote:

    But seriously, as much as I enjoy a bit of speculation it has gotten a bit out of hand lately; we should try to keep it this side of the Shadowland BBS

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the forum's election speculation has ever crossed the line into the truly outlandish. It's predominately been focused on the parties and issues involved.

    I'm not sure where I'd define "outlandish" in the context of the Neath. It doesn't strike me as the best benchmark for where speculation might be getting a bit excessive.

    After all, it's not so much that cheese made from sipiders... or by spiders... or via some sort of strange commission for spiders, is in any way an impossibility or even altogether unlikely down here, but that there hasn't been any confirmation by story or dev statement that we are all enjoying delicious, delicious spider cheese with our lovely mushroom wine at our poorly-illuminated subterranean soires.

    And so far as speculation in general goes, there's building analytically from the known premises to the logical conclusion, or inferring the same from defined patterns and allusions, and then there's plain wild guessing and making things up.

    If I've just steamed past the Island of Lactating Spiders and had a lovely tea with the Arthropodal Dairyman, spider cheese seems more and more like a safe conclusion; if it's Thursday morning and the false-stars are twinkling especially brightly and all things are well and a Reluctant Dolphinmonger comes knocking at my door and I leap to my feet in delight squealing "HE'S SELLING SPIDER CHEESE!", then, well... um... where was I?

    Um, right, not so much to draw the conclusion from there. That's what I was getting to...

    And yes, during Election there was a great deal of wild guessing and far too much ascribing of imagined motives to various characters and that's probably a good bit of why things got somewhat heated on the forums. So I'm hoping it all stays safely in the rearview.

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    8/30/2016
    I am on the island and there is indeed an option for the ferry to return to London. Shame -- that's five actions I have to spend. Ah well.

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    8/26/2016
    Okay... wimple found and returned, all items collected, secrets of the island fully explored, nightmares and wounds eliminated, and back to Blighty just in time for the start of a naval adventure. A very enjoyable festival!

    At the risk of stating the obvious, for those who are having trouble getting the knife: have you tried getting your Strange Catch really low, about 4 or 5 at the most? Unless I didn't understand how it works, a Strange Catch of 4 would translate into a 2, 3, or 4, which is one chance in three of getting it, isn't it?
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    8/23/2016
    I wouldn't be surprised to see Sister Lydia become a recurring character as the year goes on.

    The real conspiracy theory is that Sister Lydia is laying the ground work for her own mayoral run next year.

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    Bonny Kate
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    8/24/2016
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    Kate, that's been my situation exactly--with both my main and my alt (though my alt's quirks are much lower, and more variable, on average). Still, my alt has been having a terrible time getting the last Festival item for her collection--the boots.



    I'm still trying to get that blasted Scrimshander Carving Knife.

    And on a related note, can anyone verify that the challenges to a quirk will still appear if that quirk is zero? As my only low stat, I dropped Forceful to zero,* but then haven't seen any Forceful challenges. Do I need at least a point of Forceful?

    *in the hopes of being able to get below five Running Battle, as it's nearly impossible for me to fail any of the challenges

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    8/24/2016
    From my experience, they will still appear. (And the RNG will have a sudden love for you, thus preventing you from raising it)

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    8/24/2016
    Thanks! I finally got one. I had managed to make it all the way through twice without seeing Forceful, and was starting to wonder.

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    Bent Elk Chops
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    8/25/2016
    My nightmares got to high and I went back to my lodgings. How do I get back to the festival?
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    8/25/2016
    Bent Elk Chops wrote:
    My nightmares got to high and I went back to my lodgings. How do I get back to the festival?

    Go back to Wolfstack and catch a Ferry. If you don't have Wolfstack unlocked, there is a friendly Urchin at your lodging who can help get you there.

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    8/21/2016
    Lizhly wrote:
    john sledge wrote:
    I don't know how to get the knive. I got all but the weapon. Three days fishing and nothing...


    I've heard that you need a Cove value of 3. I'm personally trying to get it myself, so let's both hope that's correct.

    I can confirm that. go for lower numbers for better odds, you want to get running battle of 3, at least, in a dream world. this isn't a dream world, but 4 has better odds than 5, 5 has better odds than 6, and passing 6 just makes your chances worse. [which may make getting 3 impossible, and even if possible, unlikely.]

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    8/21/2016
    I think that it can be anywhere from full to half value, rounded down.

    At 7, the half is 3.5, so you can get 7, 6, 5, 4, or 3.
    At 6, the half is 3, so you can get 6, 5, 4, or 3.
    At 5, the half is 2.5, so you can get 5, 4, 3, or 2.
    At 4, the half is 2, so you can get 4, 3, or 2.
    At 3, the half is 1.5, so you can get 3, 2, or 1.

    Go with 4, because you have better odds at getting the knives, and the rewards for failing are higher half of the time. 6 is also a solid choice, if you care about EPA.
    edited by th8827 on 8/21/2016

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    8/20/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Lizhly wrote:
    Alright. I got the cloak, the wimple, the effluvia, and the boots. I know I need to get the knife, but anyone know if I'm missing anything else?



    A Submerged Rector.




  • Wow, quick response. Thanks! Though I just turned in the wimple, so I guess I need to go looking for that again. Gotta catch them all, man.

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    john sledge
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    8/21/2016
    I don't know how to get the knive. I got all but the weapon. Three days fishing and nothing...
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    Parelle
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    8/21/2016
    The Glass Boffin wrote:
    Any particularly profitable grinds available on Mutton Island for the Festival?


    If you desire Docks Favours they can be ground through Mutton Island.

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    8/21/2016
    The catch disappears when Time the Healer comes around, I believe.

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    8/22/2016
    Just want to confirm; the only way to get items from past festivals (the armoured guinea-pig, for example) is to pay fate for them? No way to catch them this time around?

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    8/22/2016
    Dominitus wrote:
    Just want to confirm; the only way to get items from past festivals (the armoured guinea-pig, for example) is to pay fate for them? No way to catch them this time around?

    Yes, sadly that's correct.

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    8/21/2016
    Angus Turner wrote:
    The moment I saw that the strange catch wiki article has no description for a strange catch with a value of 12, I knew. I knew that I will be the one to catch that which no one has caught before. Last year I failed to do so, but this year, after getting all items from wreckers' cove, I resolved not to leave mutton island without my strange catch. I have spent countless actions, consumed over a hundred echos worth of partial maps, but now, at last, it will all be worth it.


    Congratulations!

    Just a friendly warning. I think the catch disappears some time after the festival. My first festival, I got stuck with a catch because the festival ended before I could redeem it. I thought maybe I would be able to save the catch until the next festival, but I believe it disappeared maybe after a month.
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    8/22/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    I think there is only one wimple. Two distinct versions of it exist only for game purposes, namely to avoid a second meeting.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 8/22/2016



    But, firstly to my knowledge this sort of mechanic has never been used before and, secondly, there is a very easy conventional method to achieve this - just lock the Return Wimple branch if you have Encounter with the Mayor.

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    8/22/2016
    Vexpont wrote:

    I think the reason it's used here is that having an OriginalWimple and a SouvenirWimple gets round the need to actively mark the 'Return Sinning Jenny's Wimple' storylet as Locked when it appears again, which might make players think there was a fancy way to get it to unlock, and let them meet Jenny and Return the Wimple...again.



    Storynexus can (and liberally does) let the developers mark a branch as invisible if its unlock requirements are not satisfied.

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    8/23/2016
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Mechanics aside, would it be out of character for Sinning Jenny and Miriam Plenty to plant multiple false wimples in Wreckers Cove for resourceful festival goers to find? They are show business types after all.


    I think it would be very much in character for Miriam Plenty to plant dozens of false but plausible-looking wimples in all kinds of places around Mutton Island. I'm not sure I see Jenny getting mixed up in that type of scam--it's too crude and obvious for her.

    It would however create an opening for the sort of one-on-one, long term, intimate seduction scams that Jenny specializes in.

    'Oh, you brought me my wimple, how moving! Let's go somewhere private where I can confide all sorts of secrets with you and ask for your help!'

    Miriam gets a nice fresh fish, Jenny gets a mark.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 8/23/2016

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    8/23/2016
    In light of the contents of Mr Heart's freezer and the weird dishes concocted at the end of the Hearts Blood season, cheese made from spiders is very plausible.

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    8/17/2016
    I just noticed something... This festival is the only way to get a Strange Catch, and you lose the Strange Catch if you leave. However, there is a Seeking option to use the Strange Catch to get a Starveling Cat in London... Is it possible to do in any way, or an impossible choice?

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    Andrea Serafini
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    8/17/2016
    I'm not sure about it, but maybe getting crazy or dying may help you keep the catch.

    It would be something definitely in tune with Seeking.

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    8/17/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    I just noticed something... This festival is the only way to get a Strange Catch, and you lose the Strange Catch if you leave. However, there is a Seeking option to use the Strange Catch to get a Starveling Cat in London... Is it possible to do in any way, or an impossible choice?
    Interesting! Where is that option and what is it called? It doesn't seem to be on the wiki...

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    8/17/2016
    Is it a Strange Catch or a Deep-zee Catch? I'd suspect the latter, but I haven't personally seen the option.

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    Barse
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    8/17/2016
    From soul-staining for Arthur, it appears if you have 0x Starveling Cats:

    Gulped down a vile and bloated sprat!
    It’s tender with internal gases - just the way the Cat will like it.
    Unlocked with 0x Starveling Cat, 1x Strange Catch

    Very weird.

    EDIT: At least, this is what it used to be back when seeking first came back. My info and text might be out of date, and Deep-zee Catch would make more sense.
    edited by Barselaar on 8/17/2016

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    8/17/2016
    phryne wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    I just noticed something... This festival is the only way to get a Strange Catch, and you lose the Strange Catch if you leave. However, there is a Seeking option to use the Strange Catch to get a Starveling Cat in London... Is it possible to do in any way, or an impossible choice?
    Interesting! Where is that option and what is it called? It doesn't seem to be on the wiki...

    It is on the Soul and the Number card, if you don't have a Starveling Cat. Several steps on that card make you lose a Starveling Cat, so if you don't have a stockpile of at least 4, you will see the option among the others available.

    Also, where do you get a Deep-Zee Catch?

  • edited by th8827 on 8/17/2016

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    8/17/2016
    Andrea Serafini wrote:
    I'm not sure about it, but maybe getting crazy or dying may help you keep the catch.

    It would be something definitely in tune with Seeking.


    Not to say it doesn't work differently for a seeker, but I remember this: I lost my catch when I got tossed out for menaces.

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    8/17/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    phryne wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    I just noticed something... This festival is the only way to get a Strange Catch, and you lose the Strange Catch if you leave. However, there is a Seeking option to use the Strange Catch to get a Starveling Cat in London... Is it possible to do in any way, or an impossible choice?
    Interesting! Where is that option and what is it called? It doesn't seem to be on the wiki...

    It is on the Soul and the Number card, if you don't have a Starveling Cat. Several steps on that card make you lose a Starveling Cat, so if you don't have a stockpile of at least 4, you will see the option among the others available.

    Also, where do you get a Deep-Zee Catch?


    I got mine through Flint, in an area I can no longer access.

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    Barse
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    8/17/2016
    Leaving by Passenger-boat, your own ship, and menace chuck-outs (at least the nightmares one) all strip you of your Catch. Maybe that option is impossible: maybe it'll be possible one day.

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    8/17/2016
    Effluvia. That sounds nasty. Nevertheless, I have acquired it...curse my completionist, collector's brain.

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    8/17/2016
    Barselaar wrote:
    Someone told me you got a Magnificent Diamond. This is second hand info, however, so someone might want to confirm.

    You can get them from a Jewelry box at Wrecker's Cove 1-2. It's on a rare success, though.


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    8/17/2016
    Barselaar wrote:
    I can confirm, you only get to meet her once. Clever FBG knew we'd try to use it to farm Blackmail Material/Diamonds/FiHP. Good foresight on their part.

    You already have a chance to get Blackmail Material from the Forgotten Dossier at Wrecker's Cove 4-5 (alternatively, Presbyrate Passphrases). Diamonds of various quality can be had from the Jewelry Box at Wrecker's Cove 1-2.
    Really, trying to farm either from Jenny seems less lucrative than just trading in the strange catch, particularly given the action costs to get the airs right (for the Hooded Lady, and subsequently Jenny), and the probable need to consume cartography items in order to raise RB above level 7 in order to get the wimple.



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    8/18/2016
    dov wrote:

    There are a couple of options relating to our Mayor Sinning Jenny.

    All the old prizes were apparently removed (you can sill get them with Fate) and replaced with new items.

    With a catch level of 7 or more (confirmed with level 8) there are two new items to find:
    • A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
    • Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple. I expect this to have some follow up in London, since to get it you need to have no 'An Encounter with the Mayor Of London'

    Others have reported on this thread and on the wiki about other new items:

    • A cured jillyfleur cloak. Catch level 6. Stats not mentioned.
    • Wrecking Boots. Requires catch level 5. Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1
    • A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia. Catch level 4. Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1


    I had A Strange Catch at 9 and couldn't find the Rector. I also had Strange Catch at 5 and didn't find the Wrecking Boots.

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    Lizhly
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    8/18/2016
    Sorry if this has been asked already, but I'm running fairly quickly out of cartography items. Is turning in strange catches the only way to grind them during the festival?

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    8/20/2016
    Teaspoon wrote:
    So, anyone else taking the opportunity to grind their quirks?


    Sure. It's nice to have a way to grind quirks up (on challenge failures) which doesn't simultaneously lower some other quirk.
    I wish I could get my Hedonist back up to 14 though; AFAICT you can't raise quirks too high via fishing.

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    8/20/2016
    Yes, I discovered my melancholy doesn't go past nine. After tanking my daring on it.

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    8/19/2016
    Yay! One more and I'm done with this festival!
    Got an 11 which turned into a 10 which didn't open any new options. Odexio's post is very useful if someone has troubles with RNG!

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    8/18/2016
    I've never had a problem with the RNG at the festival. I mean yeah, it took me all week last year to finish my collection of unique items, and I've only gotten two of them so far this year, but fishing is all about patience and enjoying the experience. Sit back, enjoy some rubbery lumps, dance with some drownies, throw fish at preachers to avoid being thrown out for insanity, and let what comes come. It would be an awfully boring celebration if you just burned the same hundred actions in the same order as every other player and went home.

    (Also, in the past your Picking value has ranged from 1 to the value of your Catch, so if it's only going as low as half your fish number this year, that's awfully generous of them. I definitely turned a level 9 fish into a level 1 reward on multiple occasions).
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    8/18/2016
    I'm pretty sure that the boots are 5
    edited by th8827 on 8/18/2016

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    8/18/2016
    Vincent Asmund wrote:
    What level of SC do I need for Wrecking Boots? It's the only item I have left.



    A minimum of 5 Strange Catch and just hope that it doesn't get reduced when you visit the Cove - as that is the Cove value you need for the Boots. Good luck.

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    8/18/2016
    lady ciel wrote:
    Vincent Asmund wrote:
    What level of SC do I need for Wrecking Boots? It's the only item I have left.



    A minimum of 5 Strange Catch and just hope that it doesn't get reduced when you visit the Cove - as that is the Cove value you need for the Boots. Good luck.




    GOT 'EM! Thanks!

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    8/18/2016
    I really haven't had many rng issues. A few long waits to cash in at the festival, but as far as fishing goes I find my strange catch is pretty consistently equal to or just one level less than my running battle.

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    8/16/2016
    RandomWalker wrote:
    When the RNG deigns to smile on you, you'll have the option to trade in the wimple to the Mayor. The Mayor will take you to the lighthouse and discuss how her term in office is going - she's concerned that the Masters are using her efforts for their own ends.

    You can either advise her to stay the course, or to oppose the Masters. I didn't notice any qualities changing whichever you choose. When you leave, you're ambused by a reporter. No idea what happens if you sell out or take a bride to stay schtum, but if you keep quiet you get a quality and a Favours in High Places. No unique items.

    It's worth noting that it seems that the Steadfast gain from that is capable of getting you to 15, and presumably the other options do the same for other quirks. I'm guessing Ruthless or Heartless for the blackmail, but I don't know what would work for the other stuff- it could be almost anything depending on the writing of it.

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    8/16/2016
    Honestly, by now, I've given up any calculation. I spent more or less 20 hours on the Festival, with only short trip back to London to pick my Payment up. I just wanna find that Wimple and get off the Mutton for a while. RNG is seriously on another level of cruel here.

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    8/16/2016
    phryne wrote:
    Not sure whether this is new, but you can get the Wimple a second time now. Not sure whether there's another follow-up either, but the text seemed to suggest you get to keep it this time.
    [spoiler][/spoiler]
    edited by phryne on 8/16/2016

    So, you get to meet the Mayor again, then?

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    Corran
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    8/16/2016
    Just found that I kept track of my quirks for last year's festival; handy to see what my best options are.

    These were my quirks at the end of last year's festival:

    Austere 5
    Daring 10
    Forceful 5
    Heartless 1
    Hedonist 11
    Magnanimous 14
    Melancholy 7
    Ruthless 24
    Steadfast 12
    Subtle 30

    My current stats (I am 1 Approaching Journey's End away from Mutton Island):

    Austere 6
    Daring 9
    Forceful 3
    Heartless 1
    Hedonist 3
    Magnanimous 10
    Melancholy 10
    Ruthless 22
    Steadfast 5
    Subtle 19

    Subtle sure took a plunge the last 12 months...

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    Vavakx Nonexus
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    8/16/2016
    Wow. What happened to all your quirks? Did you have to feed them to a Noman?

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    SarahTheEntwife
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    8/16/2016
    Thanks for the tips earlier! I now have a jillyfleur cloak and effluvia of my vary own. Yay? ;-)

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    Grenem
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    8/16/2016
    phryne wrote:
    It's impossible to aim for a particular level of Cove-Picking. The only way is to try and try and try again...


    Well, partially. If it selects a random number with no filtering, then the best way to get the item for any of the "Exactly X" items is to hit exactly their level running battle. this would mean that exactly six has a 1-in-six, exactly five has a 1-in-5, exactly 4 has a 1-in-four, and so on. Obviously, you'd either want to start with 7+, or with 6, and then work your way down if you can.

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    8/16/2016
    Is the Wimple trade in option a Sights at the Festival unlock?

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    Corvo
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    8/16/2016
    A question, I accidentally misclicked in Wrecker's COve, is it possible to draw the card that allwos you top pick rewards again?

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    Snado
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    8/16/2016
    finished fishing. i got 6 running battle for the first fish and i got 8 running battle for the second fish. i dont know how many strange catches i had but i assume i had 8 strange catches.
    phryne wrote:
    It's impossible to aim for a particular level of Cove-Picking. The only way is to try and try and try again..

    i got lucky and get level 6 of cove-picking on first try. i immediately pick the equipable cloak that increases stats, which is exactly what i want.

    anyway. is there any other notable rewards or content in the festival ?. i feel i had enough.

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    8/17/2016
    Harlocke wrote:
    Catherine Raymond wrote:
    rahv7 wrote:
    ... I've also invested about 20 actions recently only to give my Catch to the Chef because my Wounds were dangerously high.


    I prefer to hang onto my Catch and deal with Wounds by eating Rubbery Lumps. Yes, it uses a lot of actions, but at least it lets you control how high your Wounds get more easily.


    Is that more efficient than just heading back to London periodically to rest and/or quaff healing tonics? A round trip is 10 extra actions, but at least you can reduce menaces fairly quickly. And it also lets you draw cards while you wait for actions to refresh, so you get menace reducers as well as any valuable cards worth playing despite the festival.


    If you use those turns fishing, though, you have a chance to boost some of your quirks, and in addition you'll get valuable Cartography items when you turn your catch over to the chef. (And I assume the same applies with the curate.)

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    8/17/2016
    I did an intentionally low run (boosting quirks) and only got a catch of 3, I then used it on a wound reduction and lots 3 levels (from 7 to 4) while every other time I've used it's I've gone down to 0. So yeah, I'd suspect the size of the catch matters. Probably the same formula as the cove...

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    th8827
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    8/17/2016
    The Feast options to clear menaces do not wipe. I went from being 1 CP of wounds away from 8 to being 1 CP of wounds away from 4.

    Also, I don't know if the RNG loves or hates me, because I succeeded twice in a row at a 20% success Quirk challenge, when I was trying to fail and get a lower Catch value.

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    A Dimness
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    8/16/2016
    Got my cloak and my Rector, but darn do those menaces go up quickly at the festival.
    Has anyone gotten strange catch 12+ yet? I'm curious to the fluff text for them.

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    Corvo
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    8/16/2016
    RandomWalker wrote:
    Don't quite follow the question, but the only non-repeatable content in the festival is the meeting with the mayor, as far as I'm aware, although you can only pick up items you don't already have. Just get a bother catch and try again.

    Yeah, I jsut got the card to pick up another reward from teh festival. Thansk for the help, sorry for bothering.

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    8/16/2016
    Corvo wrote:
    RandomWalker wrote:
    Don't quite follow the question, but the only non-repeatable content in the festival is the meeting with the mayor, as far as I'm aware, although you can only pick up items you don't already have. Just get a bother catch and try again.

    Yeah, I jsut got the card to pick up another reward from teh festival. Thansk for the help, sorry for bothering.

    You seem to have a lithp.

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    Corvo
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    8/16/2016
    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    Corvo wrote:
    RandomWalker wrote:
    Don't quite follow the question, but the only non-repeatable content in the festival is the meeting with the mayor, as far as I'm aware, although you can only pick up items you don't already have. Just get a bother catch and try again.

    Yeah, I jsut got the card to pick up another reward from teh festival. Thansk for the help, sorry for bothering.

    You seem to have a lithp.



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    Catherine Raymond
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    8/16/2016
    rahv7 wrote:
    You have a 15% chance to meet the Hooded Lady, so statistically speaking, roughly every 7 tries. I know the feeling though. I've also invested about 20 actions recently only to give my Catch to the Chef because my Wounds were dangerously high.


    I prefer to hang onto my Catch and deal with Wounds by eating Rubbery Lumps. Yes, it uses a lot of actions, but at least it lets you control how high your Wounds get more easily.

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    Teaspoon
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    8/16/2016
    So, does anyone know what happens to your quirks if you tell Jenny to oppose the Masters?

    (It's unlikely to affect Melancholy, but I'm grinding it and don't want to make a bad mistake.)

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    Johny Topside
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    8/15/2016
    Is there any way to ensure that you get all the items? I remember last year missing out on an item (A lower level one) because my SC was higher than a certain range.


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    Optimatum
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    8/15/2016
    Johny Topside wrote:
    Is there any way to ensure that you get all the items? I remember last year missing out on an item (A lower level one) because my SC was higher than a certain range.

  • Try repeatedly with riskier options and without spending items.

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    Harlocke
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    8/15/2016
    Can you get the same item twice? If not, it would make sense to get all the cheaper items first, so you don't risk getting one of them when you go for the +7 running battle items.

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    Dudebro Pyro
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    8/15/2016
    This is my first Festival, so I'm wondering, are there any items - right now or from the previous years - that are best in slot or otherwise notable?

    I'm a min-maxing kind of guy, and I'd like to be sure whether I can relax and do whatever or whether there's something I really need to get first. If all the items are outclassed by other things, I can just get some lore (and a destiny!) instead of grinding for any particular thing.

    (Also, unrelated, but the woes of ill-planned zailing: I randomly decided to go to Polythreme during my expedition, then remembered I still hadn't bought a cloak for the Clothes-Colony, decided that I had enough research and going further would be a waste of time, turned back, got out of the Sea of Voices with like 9 progress already, went all the way across the Unterzee, and landed in London about 5 hours after the festival began instead of paying attention and saving myself 5 actions. Whew!)

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    Diptych
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    8/16/2016
    Yeah, there's a random element to cashing in Strange Catches.

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    thedeadlymoose
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    8/16/2016
    Pyrodinium wrote:
    Question: I got Strange Catch of 8 but when I go to trade it, it went down to 5 and 6. Is that on purpose?


    It's a random decrease. You won't always get 5 or 6 from a Catch of 8. But sometimes you will.

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    Optimatum
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    8/16/2016
    Giving Jenny her wimple back leads to uncapped quirk changes. The first of the three choices at the end of that sequence gives a Steadfast boost up to 15 (don't know how much since already had it at cap) and a heartless decrease.

    Chrono717 wrote:
    Does getting Sinning Jenny's Wimple a second time have any other effects, or is it just for the sake of getting that item?

    You can't get it again. The option requires not having An Encounter with the Mayor Of London.

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    th8827
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    8/16/2016
    Do any of the Jenny options give any unique items, or should I just hang on to her Wimple?

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    Kharsirr Lynx
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    8/16/2016
    Could you please guide me about how exactly I trade Wimple?

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    Dudebro Pyro
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    8/15/2016
    Optimatum wrote:
    Also if you wish to min-max further, the two best Destinies are Fate-locked (to the tune of 10 Fate)


    Citation needed - neither of them give +5 Watchful. AFAIK stat-capping Shadowy and Dangerous is enough for basically anything, unlike Watchful - or at least, according to the wiki, there are currently no insanely difficult Dangerous challenges and only two Shadowy ones, one of which requires the Jewel Thief which I'm not gonna be getting anyway. My point being, I want those extra 2 points of Watchful, dagnabbit.

    That said, thanks for the advice both you and Individual - looks like I'll be getting myself a Reactor. This should make me less salty about being stupid and missing out on the Reactionary Tomb-Colonist, at least until I actually get through the Nadir and get myself a Firebrand.

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    th8827
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    8/15/2016
    What is the highest value of "Picking through the Wreckage" that unlocks items? Has it been confirmed that nothing happens at extreme values?

    Also, I remember a storylet where Jenny said that she tossed her Wimple into the Zee when she was young. does having the Wimple open anything up at that value?
    edited by th8827 on 8/16/2016

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    Ian Hart
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    8/16/2016
    No one else seems to have mentioned it, but once you get the Wimple, you can return it to Jenny, which then leads to a story with two options. Not sure on the consequences of either yet, since I came here to see if anyone else had chosen.
    Edit: I've selected one option only to get 3 more! Hopefully someone else will be willing to trade results...
    edited by Ian Hart on 8/16/2016

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    8/16/2016
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    Optimatum wrote:
    Also if you wish to min-max further, the two best Destinies are Fate-locked (to the tune of 10 Fate)


    Citation needed - neither of them give +5 Watchful. AFAIK stat-capping Shadowy and Dangerous is enough for basically anything, unlike Watchful - or at least, according to the wiki, there are currently no insanely difficult Dangerous challenges and only two Shadowy ones, one of which requires the Jewel Thief which I'm not gonna be getting anyway. My point being, I want those extra 2 points of Watchful, dagnabbit.



    Best as in highest net stat boost. They're not objectively best for all purposes, but for me I'd rather have one slightly lower stat than optimal if it means having two stats higher that I can both benefit from. For example, of things I can do:
    • Watchful has the difficult Overgoat card challenge, an option giving rewards scaling with Watchful, and another scaling option I have open from completing the Blemmigan Affair.
    • Dangerous has the difficult K&C lodgings card option and a scaling option useful for grinding rats for weddings.
    • Persuasive has the incredibly difficult challenge from a Nadir card.
    • Shadowy has an option with scaling rewards to spend Someone is Coming.

    As such, the stat I get the greatest value from is Watchful, but I get more value overall from having two stats higher. Two fewer levels of Watchful means a couple pence fewer from two options and a ~1% difference on a difficult challenge, but five more levels of Dangerous means several percent higher chances of getting a 5 echo success.

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    8/16/2016
    So, the cloak is also an option at 10, with other rewards that I think are the same at 8. So, probably not worth it, unless you are having trouble with small numbers.

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/16/2016
    dov wrote:

    • Catch 7: Sinning Jenny's Forsaken Wimple
    • Catch 7: A Submerged Rector (Companion, Persuasive +7, Watchful +6)
    • Catch 6: A Cured Jillyfleur Cloak (Clothing, Dangerous +6, Watchful +4, Persuasive -1)
    • Catch 5: Wrecking Boots (Boots, Persuasive +6, Dangerous +4, Shadowy -1)
    • Catch 4: A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia (Weapon, Shadowy +5, Watchful +3, Dangerous -1)
    • Catch 3 (assumed): Scrimshander Carving Knife (Weapon, Watchful +3, Persuasive +2, Dangerous -1)



    So far, I got Cloak and Boots. Now, onto getting Effluvia and Wimple, and my hunt for unique items can be done. I am still considering getting Rector, because I have Reactionary Tomb Colonist from Election...eh, that's kinda bonus.
    Unrelated question, can anyone confirm is there an option for Hedonist when you return Wimple?

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    8/16/2016
    @ responses to my question.

    Thanks for the responses. Hmm... I'm not that thrilled with burning Partial Maps for lucky draws. I'm thinking of sitting this Feast through unless they also provide a decent way of recouping those items.

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    8/16/2016
    I've not actually been all that unlucky, I am only missing one reward. I was just wondering if somebody else was noticing a similar "issue" with *Sights*. Apparently not, so I guess it's all just in my head... smile
    edited by rahv7 on 8/16/2016

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    Snado
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    8/16/2016
    can you stack your strange catches?. like fishing multiple times to get more strange catches. are the old catches will be replaced with the new catches ?
    edited by Snado on 8/16/2016

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    8/16/2016
    Old catches get replaced. But if you choose to throw it back you'll keep half your running battle, letting you build up to higher catches.

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    Snado
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    8/16/2016
    oh ok. that was a very very VERY quick response. gonna go fishing.
    another question. i have the hooded lady option at the festival. does the "sight of the carnival" quality randomizer get changed when you fish ?. i want to cash in my reward without raising anymore menaces.

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    8/16/2016
    Snado wrote:
    another question. i have the hooded lady option at the festival. does the "sight of the carnival" quality randomizer get changed when you fish ?. i want to cash in my reward without raising anymore menaces.


    Yes, it changes. The randomiser that determines which quirk challenges you get when going fishing is the same that determines which options you have at the festival.

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    8/16/2016
    I have the cane and goldfish to keep me from entering a menace zone immediately. And considering my luck, I'm not relying on the RNG to get me the menace-reducing turnin options before I'm killed or driven made cycling the Menace-raising airs.

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    8/16/2016
    You can lower wounds by eating Rubbery Lumps.

    At 1cp an action admittedly.

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    8/16/2016
    I have the progress in Mutton Island too high for that now. The wound-reducing action now raises Nightmares.

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    8/16/2016
    Mordaine Barimen's problem raises an interesting point: I've noticed that if I play lots of *Sights*-related options relatively fast, *Sights* tend to change only very little. It seems not to be completely random (example: If I have *Sights* 30 and immediately try again, chances are I get *Sights* somewhere around 25 to 35 on the next action. Not always, but often. It might just be observer bias but I've still adopted the strategy of waiting a few seconds before trying again.

    Has anyone else noticed a similar effect or am I just getting mad from too much spore toffee?
    edited by rahv7 on 8/16/2016

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    Harlocke
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    8/15/2016
    Is there a list of all the special items you can acquire?

    I went through once and got the Jillyfleur cloak, and noticed that you can pay fate for previous years' items. Didn't actually click on that button though. Do they have all new items each year of the festival?

    It also makes me wonder if mayoral election companions from previous years will be purchasable with fate.

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    8/15/2016
    I gained pretty much everything I wanted from the last fruits of the zee festival, is there anything new to get this year? Any worthwhile new content?
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    8/15/2016
    I started the festival already on mutton island by coincidence. Is there any benefit to traveling back to London during the festival? Will I miss out on something by not taking the ferry?

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    8/15/2016
    Do any seekers changing their destiny have obscurity? I do, and am unable to change my destiny to torment.
    Edit: there is an invisible obscurity lock on destinies. Likely tattoos too.
    edited by suinicide on 8/16/2016

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    8/15/2016
    Is there any way to get moon-pearls on the island? I'd hate to have to come all the way back just so I can investigate the lighthouse.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    It does indeed bestow Destin.

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    Dean Lee
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    8/15/2016
    Anyone discover how to acquire the wimple?

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    ggscv
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    8/15/2016
    Wimple stats = +2 Persuasive, +1 Watchful

    Also it seems strange catch 7 is the maximum for unique items, I had strange catch 10 and the choice was still only Submerged Rector and Wimple (along with clay man and thrumming chest).
    edited by ggscv on 8/15/2016

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/15/2016
    I am wondering, did anyone noticed difference in gained CP when passing quirk checks and using Zee Stories/Partial Maps? Is it better to use exclusively one of those ways?

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    dov
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    8/15/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Anyone mention the "Scrimshander Carving Knife" yet? Watchful +3, Persuasive +2, Dangerous -1.

    What's the catch level for this? 3?

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    phryne
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    8/15/2016
    @Sarah: Keep playing the Feast storylets until you see "Offer a Hooded Lady your Strange Catch". It's the rarest option so it might take a while to appear wink

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    aegisaglow
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    8/15/2016
    Thank you! I'm doing that with my alt right now and I see now that going for the destiny right away sends you back to London, so probably best to save that for last.
    edited by aegisaglow on 8/15/2016

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    shylarah
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    8/15/2016
    Okay, so...I see the Wimple is in the cave, but from what I saw on the wiki, (and heard from her own lips), Jenny threw it in the zee during a previous festival. However there's...not actually any way to get that option now, I believe. Does anyone know the details of why, or what was going on? *has a thing for stories, lore, and details*

    Additionally, is there a vague idea or a range for Running Battle that's been figured to give the max necessary value of Catch (7)? I think you need to have at least 9, since it's reduced twice....

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    8/15/2016
    ggscv wrote:
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    I am wondering, did anyone noticed difference in gained CP when passing quirk checks and using Zee Stories/Partial Maps? Is it better to use exclusively one of those ways?



    According to the wiki,
    Quirks and map scrap = +2 cp
    Zee Story = +5 cp
    Partial Map = +10 cp

    Ah, all right, then. I never remember to check the wiki

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    Harlocke
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    8/15/2016
    The Jillyfleur cloak is dangerous +6 watchful +4 persuasive -1.

    Also, what are the items from previous years?
    edited by Harlocke on 8/15/2016

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    Dean Lee
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    8/15/2016
    dov wrote:


    • A cured jillyfleur cloak. Catch level 6. Stats not mentioned.



    Cloak stats == +6 D, +4 W, -1 P

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    The Master
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    8/15/2016
    The hooded lady appears in "The fruits of the zee festival!" storylet, right? I spent around 8 actions here with my catch and I still didn't get her.

    edit:the answer was right above my head(almost), sorry!
    edited by The Master on 8/15/2016

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    Keep trying. She's there, it's just a bit unlikely and the RNG hates everyone.
    edited by Barselaar on 8/15/2016

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    phryne
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    8/15/2016
    Yes, she does. And she only appears ca. 10% of the time, so 8 actions isn't much. It all depends on how much the RNG hates/loves you... wink

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    Vincent Asmund
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    8/15/2016
    How much does A Submerged Rector increase your stats?

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    In the Companion slot, it's Persuasive +7, Watchful +6.

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     Saklad
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    8/15/2016
    Is spending items more effective than succeeding at Quirk challenges when fishing?

  • edited by Saklad5 on 8/15/2016

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    aegisaglow
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    8/15/2016
    ggscv wrote:
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    I am wondering, did anyone noticed difference in gained CP when passing quirk checks and using Zee Stories/Partial Maps? Is it better to use exclusively one of those ways?



    According to the wiki,
    Quirks and map scrap = +2 cp
    Zee Story = +5 cp
    Partial Map = +10 cp



    Huh. Do you need to use Zee Stories/Partial Maps to get the best rewards then, or can you do it on quirks alone?

    Also, does getting a Destiny have anything to do with turning in a Strange Catch?

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    If you want to use quirks alone you may have to throw the catch back to retain some Running Battle for the next run a few times.

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    phryne
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    8/15/2016
    Jeremy Saklad wrote:
    Is spending items more effective than succeeding at Quirk challenges when fishing?
    Very much so!

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/15/2016
    aegisaglow wrote:
    ggscv wrote:
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    I am wondering, did anyone noticed difference in gained CP when passing quirk checks and using Zee Stories/Partial Maps? Is it better to use exclusively one of those ways?



    According to the wiki,
    Quirks and map scrap = +2 cp
    Zee Story = +5 cp
    Partial Map = +10 cp



    Huh. Do you need to use Zee Stories/Partial Maps to get the best rewards then, or can you do it on quirks alone?

    Also, does getting a Destiny have anything to do with turning in a Strange Catch?

    Yes, to get a Destiny, you have to turn in the Strange Catch.

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    phryne
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    8/15/2016
    aegisaglow wrote:
    Also, does getting a Destiny have anything to do with turning in a Strange Catch?
    Exactly. Offer your Strange Catch to the Drownies, and they'll take care of you wink

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    Omega8520
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    8/15/2016
    Another new item. A Faceted Decanter of Drownie Effluvia. Weapon, +5 Shadowy, +3 Watchful, -1 Dangerous. Also cannot be equipped, for some reason.

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    RandomWalker
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    8/15/2016
    Oh, and can I say that I love the new mechanic for optionally spending quirks at the end of the fishing? Much, much better than the first year. Thank you.
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    8/15/2016
    I was half-awake: is there a way to get Rostygold on the island that I'm not seeing, or do I need to go back to London and stock up?

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    phryne wrote:
    sent PM to BlabberingMat

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    8/15/2016
    according to my experience. it seems the options given will increase an associated menace. the option that has something to do with watchful increases nightmare and dangeruos option increases wounds. is there any way to avoid this ?. or maybe its set up like this. also, the text says high stat grants better rewards and i think there isnt any difference (or perhaps im not experienced enough to know about high or low rewards).

    offtopic: there is a lot of versions of "New Newgate" music. listened a new one when looking for destiny.

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    Odexios
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    8/15/2016
    Very nice! I was lucky enough last time to get all the old prizes, I will try and see if I can get the new ones. By the way, is there any option in the festival to increase quirks above 10?

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    RandomWalker
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    8/15/2016
    BlabberingMat wrote:
    RandomWalker wrote:
    The wimple is in the cove. Requires a value of exactly 7.
    edited by RandomWalker on 8/15/2016

    7 of what? Strange Catch? Or Running Battle?



    Sorry, I can't remember exactly what the quality is called. I think it's 'Picking the cove' or something like that. Basically Running Battle gets reduced by a random amount to become your catch, and that then gets reduced by a random amount to become 'picking' or whatever it's called. If running battle is seven or more, you stand a chance of getting the wimple, but even a running battle of 10 isn't enough to guarantee it.
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    RandomWalker
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    8/15/2016
    Snado wrote:
    according to my experience. it seems the options given will increase an associated menace. the option that has something to do with watchful increases nightmare and dangeruos option increases wounds. is there any way to avoid this ?. or maybe its set up like this. also, the text says high stat grants better rewards and i think there isnt any difference (or perhaps im not experienced enough to know about high or low rewards).

    offtopic: there is a lot of versions of "New Newgate" music. listened a new one when looking for destiny.




    The menaces are pretty much unavoidable, but you can give your catch to the Chef or the Rector for a reduction (wipe? I don't recall) of one menace - the Chef does Wounds, and the Rector does Nightmares, as you would expect. You can also do the non-festival Mutton island cycle and pick the Great Feast option at the end of te cycle for a slight reduction (3 cp) of both.
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    8/15/2016
    It seems like a wipe, having just gone from Nightmares 6 to 0.

    Happy for my first Fruits Festival. Finally can get a destiny. Though I'm still figuring a few mechanics out, seems fun.

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    narcomanic
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    8/15/2016
    I kinda wanna my Time, the Healer to hit before I depart for the festival, so here I am... anxiously refreshing my messages. :|

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    RandomWalker
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    8/15/2016
    Okay, wimple needs 7+ 'Picking Through the Wrecker's Cove' - an 8 gets it for you too.
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    BlabberingMat
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    8/15/2016
    I am confused now...what is this cave you people talk about? The only options I have when I go to Festival are those that increase Menaces while giving some stuff and the option to throw Strange Catch down the well.Where I can cash in Catch for the equipment?

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    8/15/2016
    You give a hooded lady the catch, but that storylet's appearance is dependent on the rng.

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/15/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    You give a hooded lady the catch, but that storylet's appearance is dependent on the rng.

    Well, then...awesome. *goes off to find something to sacrifice to RNG*

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    Amelia Syrus
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    8/15/2016
    Thanks! I was wondering if paying a ferry would be faster or not. 5 Actions seems fair too versus clawing your way through the Zee by ship.

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    Optimatum
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    8/15/2016
    The end-of-fishing quirk options don't raise quirks above 10, or at least the Austere choice didn't.

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    absimiliard
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    8/15/2016
    Aww, where's the fun in letting someone else steer a ship to Mutton Island. The action costs seems well worth it to me, just to get to Zee.

    (I, of course, may be biased)

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    BlabberingMat
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    8/15/2016
    Are Forceful and Austere the only choices you have for the end of fishing? I haven't seen anything else...

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    Barse
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    8/15/2016
    There are definitely other pairs. They might trigger randomly on airs at the finish, or they might rely on the level of your running battle, I'm not sure.

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    sosisqua
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    8/15/2016
    Sooo.. this Destiny thing you talk about. I've checked with FL wikia and still don't understand if having one add some opportunity cards or opens any new ways in farming? Stat bonus is good enough for me in any case.

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    Optimatum
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    8/15/2016
    I think they depend on Airs. I also saw Steadfast/Ruthless, or perhaps it was Steadfast/Heartless.

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    Mr Sables
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    8/15/2016
    sosisqua wrote:
    Sooo.. this Destiny thing you talk about. I've checked with FL wikia and still don't understand if having one add some opportunity cards or opens any new ways in farming? Stat bonus is good enough for me in any case.



    It just gives you a permanent boost to stats.

    No opp cards, no other advantages, just an interesting story that you can record in your journal smile
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