 th8827 Posts: 823
8/25/2016
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Bent Elk Chops wrote:
My nightmares got to high and I went back to my lodgings. How do I get back to the festival? Go back to Wolfstack and catch a Ferry. If you don't have Wolfstack unlocked, there is a friendly Urchin at your lodging who can help get you there.
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Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 Bent Elk Chops Posts: 2
8/25/2016
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th8827 wrote:
Go back to Wolfstack and catch a Ferry. If you don't have Wolfstack unlocked, there is a friendly Urchin at your lodging who can help get you there.
Yes the urchin was there thank you.
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 Anne Auclair Posts: 2215
8/25/2016
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I think the Mayor is going to become a regular feature at every festival. The Mayoral storyline is a strictly chronological that it slowly progresses throughout the year. The presence of the Mayor in a regular or Exceptional story would date them and create continuity issues. Festivals however are also chronological events, the 1894 Festival of the Zee isn't the 1893 Festival, and so the Mayor's story can be safely told during them. So look forward to Jenny appearances during Hallowmass, Sacksmas, and the Feast of the Exceptional Rose.
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 Scienceandponies Posts: 247
8/25/2016
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.
I'm just saying, when was the last time you saw a cow in the neath? (or you know, goat cheese I suppose.)
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8/26/2016
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Okay... wimple found and returned, all items collected, secrets of the island fully explored, nightmares and wounds eliminated, and back to Blighty just in time for the start of a naval adventure. A very enjoyable festival!
At the risk of stating the obvious, for those who are having trouble getting the knife: have you tried getting your Strange Catch really low, about 4 or 5 at the most? Unless I didn't understand how it works, a Strange Catch of 4 would translate into a 2, 3, or 4, which is one chance in three of getting it, isn't it?
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 Teaspoon Posts: 866
8/26/2016
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hard to do w/ high quirks
-- Truth lies at the bottom of a well.
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 Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518
8/26/2016
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Most of the Zee Catches during the Festival have been between 7 and 9 when I reeled them in. That got me (by chance and the RNG) just about all of the special items for this year. I gave up with my main and spent my last 5 Fate for the Scrimhander Knife, and my alt is still struggling to get the boots--her Strange Catch keeps getting chopped down to below the minimum for the boots when she turns it in.
The moral of this story is that I would recommend against trying to get a really low Strange Catch unless you were going for the low items. For everything else, it's better to aim higher and assume that the value will be chopped down.
-- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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 Bonny Kate Posts: 78
8/26/2016
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Catherine Raymond wrote:
Most of the Zee Catches during the Festival have been between 7 and 9 when I reeled them in. That got me (by chance and the RNG) just about all of the special items for this year. I gave up with my main and spent my last 5 Fate for the Scrimhander Knife, and my alt is still struggling to get the boots--her Strange Catch keeps getting chopped down to below the minimum for the boots when she turns it in.
The moral of this story is that I would recommend against trying to get a really low Strange Catch unless you were going for the low items. For everything else, it's better to aim higher and assume that the value will be chopped down.
I finally got the Scrimshander Carving Knife. But it took a *lot* of Running Battle / Zee Catches at level 5. I managed to get level 3 once. (I wasn't tracking it, but it was at least two days worth of actions just trying for the Scrimshander Knife.) If you can try for level 4, you'll probably have better luck fishing for the Knife.
It's just really hard when you have high quirks that you don't want to sacrifice.
-- I quite like receiving Calling Cards. I am open to most social actions (including trading boxed cats), and am happy to help with menaces or actions involving second chances. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bonny%20Kate
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 Pnakotic Posts: 266
8/27/2016
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MidnightVoyager wrote:
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
It's possible, but, well, you can only go so far in assuming that any given character is doing everything they can to deceive you before it starts seeming plausible that cheese is made of spiders, that the Traitor Empress is actually three Rattus Faber in their dad's coat, and that, really, what does "true" mean when discussing a work of fiction, and then Ambition: Enigma starts increasing. Sooner or later, I think we have to take the text at its word, so to speak.
I've seen QUITE A LOT of this ever since the election stuff. It's getting slightly exhausting.

But seriously, as much as I enjoy a bit of speculation it has gotten a bit out of hand lately; we should try to keep it this side of the Shadowland BBS.
-- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman
Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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 Anne Auclair Posts: 2215
8/27/2016
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Pnakotic wrote:
But seriously, as much as I enjoy a bit of speculation it has gotten a bit out of hand lately; we should try to keep it this side of the Shadowland BBS
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the forum's election speculation has ever crossed the line into the truly outlandish. It's predominately been focused on the parties and issues involved.
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 Pnakotic Posts: 266
8/30/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Pnakotic wrote:
But seriously, as much as I enjoy a bit of speculation it has gotten a bit out of hand lately; we should try to keep it this side of the Shadowland BBS
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the forum's election speculation has ever crossed the line into the truly outlandish. It's predominately been focused on the parties and issues involved. I'm not sure where I'd define "outlandish" in the context of the Neath. It doesn't strike me as the best benchmark for where speculation might be getting a bit excessive.
After all, it's not so much that cheese made from sipiders... or by spiders... or via some sort of strange commission for spiders, is in any way an impossibility or even altogether unlikely down here, but that there hasn't been any confirmation by story or dev statement that we are all enjoying delicious, delicious spider cheese with our lovely mushroom wine at our poorly-illuminated subterranean soires.
And so far as speculation in general goes, there's building analytically from the known premises to the logical conclusion, or inferring the same from defined patterns and allusions, and then there's plain wild guessing and making things up.
If I've just steamed past the Island of Lactating Spiders and had a lovely tea with the Arthropodal Dairyman, spider cheese seems more and more like a safe conclusion; if it's Thursday morning and the false-stars are twinkling especially brightly and all things are well and a Reluctant Dolphinmonger comes knocking at my door and I leap to my feet in delight squealing "HE'S SELLING SPIDER CHEESE!", then, well... um... where was I?
Um, right, not so much to draw the conclusion from there. That's what I was getting to...
And yes, during Election there was a great deal of wild guessing and far too much ascribing of imagined motives to various characters and that's probably a good bit of why things got somewhat heated on the forums. So I'm hoping it all stays safely in the rearview.
-- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman
Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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 Snado Posts: 67
8/30/2016
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well. its nearing the end. what happened if you are still in mutton island when the carnival finishes ? (no POSI). will there be a return to london option that removes the carnival quality if youre still there?
-- "or so it seems that it may seem to be seems like it seem"
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 Saklad Posts: 528
8/30/2016
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Snado wrote:
well. its nearing the end. what happened if you are still in mutton island when the carnival finishes ? (no POSI). will there be a return to london option that removes the carnival quality if youre still there?
I imagine you'd be forced back to your Lodgings automatically.
-- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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 Saklad Posts: 528
8/30/2016
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Snado wrote:
well. its nearing the end. what happened if you are still in mutton island when the carnival finishes ? (no POSI). will there be a return to london option that removes the carnival quality if youre still there?
I imagine you'd be forced back to your Lodgings automatically.
-- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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 Barse Posts: 706
8/30/2016
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I think the Mutton Island ferry option actually is unlocked by Sights at the Feast, so can you stay on the island as long as you want and leave via that (which removes the Sights quality so no more free zailing for you). Needless to say, the Ferry option in London will disappear if it hasn't already. edited by Barselaar on 8/30/2016
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 shylarah Posts: 171
8/30/2016
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I am on the island and there is indeed an option for the ferry to return to London. Shame -- that's five actions I have to spend. Ah well.
-- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her.
Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
8/30/2016
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Just to confirm the obvious: the ferry option in London is now gone.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Anne Auclair Posts: 2215
8/30/2016
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Pnakotic wrote:
And yes, during Election there was a great deal of wild guessing and far too much ascribing of imagined motives to various characters and that's probably a good bit of why things got somewhat heated on the forums. So I'm hoping it all stays safely in the rearview. Like, I might be wrong, but I don't remember any wild guessing?
Those opposed to the Bishop accused him of wanting to start another war with Hell. That was 100% accurate. They said the Devils were backing him because they wanted him to win. This was a fairly reasonable interpretation of events - there is a faction in the Embassy that wants another war and is even willing to let their Embassy get bombed. They charged he was too obsessed with the issue of the Devils and the soul trade to be an effective Mayor. Well, if you think the soul trade is the single most important issue, then that charge was nonsense, but if you think it's just one problem among many, it's a fair charge. I think a few people accused the Bishop of being too much of a hot head? He does have a temper.
Those opposed to the Contrarian accused him of being a flipflopping dilettante. He plays such a role at parties and in the newspapers, so it was a fair charge. A deeper critique was that he was too tied to the Revolutionaries for his own good - an issue that became all the more contentious after February showed up (I don't think she hijacked the campaign btw, but it was a fairly reasonable thing for people to think). The Contrarian was also charged with being uncaring towards the Rubberies and Clay Men - and you know, even if he had good reasons, he kind of was (his supporters pasting up posters of the Bishop as a Rubbery right and his casual back and forth on Clay rights). People said he had no experience running anything like a government - this wasn't true, but we didn't know that at the time.
Those opposed to Jenny thought she was a fundamentally selfish and dishonest person. Well, she poisoned people during the Feast of the Exceptional Rose, she blackmailed former customers during her campaign, and she has a Nixonian enemies/dirty tricks list...so, there is very good reason to think that. Her critics doubted her promises to help people. In light of aforesaid dishonesty it was reasonable to doubt them. They warned that she was in the pocket of the Masters. Well, Mr Wines overtly backed her campaign in its first stages and covertly afterwards, making her the only candidate with Master backing. She was accused of wanting to create a Tammy Hall in the Office of Public Works. She is planning to staff the new department with her friends, supporters, and fellow Bohemians.
So, where was the wild guessing?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
9/14/2016
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I suspect this thread should no longer be stickied.
-- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
9/14/2016
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Well suspected!
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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