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Discussion: Next Year’s Mayoral Candidates

Absintheuse Moderator Posts: 348 8/3/2016	Hello delicious friends - Now that you’ve experienced our Election festival, we would like to know who you would be interested in seeing as candidates in next year’s Election. As many of you rightly surmised, we carefully and strategically considered which Fallen London characters would make interesting and diverse candidates for the 1894 Election. The 1895 Election will be no different, but we would love to hear which candidates you think would be exceptionally qualified. And so, who would you like to see run for the 1895 Election and why? P.S. We’ve also published some statistics from the 1894 Election today on our blog.
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Parelle Posts: 1084 8/3/2016	I'd like to suggest the Last Constable. - She's a popular character from an early story most players have encountered, which would benefit newer players who haven't otherwise encountered some of our previous canidates much before - She has an already obvious interest in changing the city - And, she'd provide a delightful opportunity for some serious Agitator Action if she was opposed by the Criminal elements. Involving your previous choices in Family & Law could also make it interesting. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 8/3/2016	Best thread. Except no one's suggested the Armoured Guinea Pig yet and I can only assume that's some sort of disgraceful oversight.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 8/3/2016	Chris Gardiner wrote: Best thread. Except no one's suggested the Armoured Guinea Pig yet and I can only assume that's some sort of disgraceful oversight. Chris, he's a projectile, not a politician. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Parabuteo Posts: 47 8/3/2016	I will go North and burn there, so perhaps I am not the best person to listen to in matters of 'long-term stable government'. But it is clear to me that in terms of candidates likely to exhibit the kind of reckless, unthinking self-destruction I've come to love so much, there can be only one answer: Your very own aunt. A remarkable woman. Capable of many talents. Able to escape the clutches of the Embassy or the clutches of the Neath itself, depending. Only mildly likely to have been eaten or stuffed into a Christmas sack, which is better than you can say for most. Vote for your Aunt. Vote for bad ideas. -- Once, I was a doctor. Now I am something different.
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The Dark Gentleman Posts: 188 8/3/2016	The Starveling Cat! The Starveling Cat! It already won. How do you like that? edited by The Dark Gentleman on 8/3/2016 -- The Dark Gentleman~ Social actions welcome. Menace reductions upon request. Newspaper interviews by appointment. Falconry by invitation only. "THE HOURS FEAR THE NAMES. THE NAMES FEAR THE LONG. THE LONG FEAR THE KNOW. ALL FEAR THE HOURS."
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/3/2016	It seems that one part of the old suggestions thread remains untranslated. The Topsy King! The Most Capering Goden around! He's a delight, and we need more of his almost urchin-esque behaviour. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Matthew Enigma Posts: 28 8/3/2016	I don't know if it would fit his plans and personality, but I'd like to suggest His Amused Lordship as a candidate. It would be a great opportunity interacting with/investigating him, both for those involved with the Dilmun Club and for new players (who haven't met him yet). If this isn't possible, then I suggest another Dilmun Club-related character: the Implacable Detective (who temporarily becomes the Implacable Candidate!). -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Matthew%20Enigma Open to all invitations!
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An Individual Posts: 589 8/3/2016	The Tentacled Entrepreneur It has business interests in the city. It can't really talk. It doesn't understand cutlery. What's not to like? Will it fight for rubbery rights? Will it call out the way rubbery characters are always given the Rubbery or Tentacled descriptor instead of something that actually describes their personality? Will its reign be rife with corruption? Will it line up ordinary Londoners and force them through the "Enhancement" process? I don't know, but I look forward to finding out. -- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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Johanna de Silentio Posts: 19 8/5/2016	I really liked how in the last campaign the candidates were distinct enough to invoke a certain aura around them, easily bringing to mid some meme/associations so that they were recognizable and seemed familiar even if someone doesn't have great knowledge of FL Lore. They contrasted each other nicely too. So for a good elections season candidates are not only important as individual characters, but also how their interact with each other in terms of mood, political ideas, etc to create a nice landscape/situation. I loved how each of the candidates were really cool, but in different way, and how I could make sense of role playing their supporter. The trio i thought would go very nicely together in some hypothetical elections are The Barbed Wit/The Last Constable/Soft-Hearted Widow. I would be so, so torn between the cool and suffrage-y stuff/ the righteous and idealistic and doomed to fail stuff/ les-miserablian care for poor stuff.
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Vexpont Posts: 137 8/4/2016	Any election featuring The Topsy King will be his by a landslide, even if he campaigns wearing nothing but live weasels and a grin. I'm not sure this is a point in his favour -- he's just going to be so much more popular than anyone else. Of characters yet to be backed: I don't see why F. F. Gebrandt shouldn't run on a hygiene ticket, and she's introduced very early in the game, which is an additional plus. Even assuming that Bazalgette got stuck into this problem before the Fall, and is maybe down here with us, the Stolen River is unlikely to be sparkling – and London's slum problems are evidently worse than ever. She'd have a strong case and a ready source of slightly-dodgy cash, since slum clearances always results in kickbacks for someone. And what is actually in Tincture of Vigour? Of characters already nominated: I strongly favour The Ambitious Barrister, who after all is essentially a force for equal opportunities. But almost everyone will loathe her to start with, and her backer could turn out to be almost anyone. The Wry Functionary is surely the best reluctant candidate. He'd be great pedantic fun. Make the fellow run. -- Dangerous to my enemies; loyal to my friends. Not too handy at telling the difference. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vexpont
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/4/2016	For a More Moral London: The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner for Mayor The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is my personal favorite. 1. Like Jenny, she is an interesting female character who has largely been regulated to bit supporting roles and could use some real fleshing out. 2. She's described as a "formidable woman is widely admired for her generosity and the extraordinary loudness of her voice... but also for her intellect." These, I think we can all agree, are very important qualities for a mayor to have. She's also quite brave - it's in her name. 3. She's already an overtly political character so she would take easily to the role of Mayoral candidate. Her Sunless Sea cameo reveals she has her own little group of supporters (some of them quite burly). The election would thus flesh her out considerably. 4. The 1890s saw serious reform movements and politics: temperance, women's suffrage and prevention of cruelty to animals. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner hits all three (in her Sunless Sea cameo she buys a Live Specimen from you, saying she hates seeing living creatures caged up). Fallen London has made some references to the Neathy equivalents of these reform movements, but they've always been in the background. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would thus give us the opportunity to not only learn more about said movements but also to participate in or oppose them. This would deepen the game's overall world building. 5. Elections often feature an attempted repudiation (actual and symbolic) of the proceeding administration. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would therefore be the perfect candidate to run after a full year of Sinning Jenny. For a More Lordly London: His Amused Lordship for Mayor 1. His Amused Lordship is a knowledgeable, ambitious and visionary gentleman. He no doubt has many fine plans for London and, being independently wealthy, the means to run for mayor. An election story-line would also further flesh out his character. Right now all we really know about his interests is that he's a member of the Dilmun club and obsessed with the Mountain of Light. As with Jenny and the Contrarian, there must be more to him then that. 2. He moves in very distinguished circles: the Implacable Detective, the Bishop of St. Fiacre, and that towering figure of sophistication and propriety, the Captivating Princess. His campaign would therefore have an abundance of supporting characters to call upon. 3. He is not afraid to condescend to the more interesting members of London's lower classes, such as the player character and the Sardonic Music Hall Singer. So he has that "popular touch" that elections require and the Bohemian connections that Jenny exploited so successfully. 4. He has done, and is planning to do, great things for Neathy science. So his campaign could serve to bring some of the University's more palatable discoveries and ideas before the public in the form of proposals for their utilization toward the city's benefit. 5. After Jenny's somewhat embarrassing* victory, the great and the good will no doubt want one of their own to take a shot at the office, and His Lordship would be the most obvious choice. from Society's perspective, anyway. For a More...Interesting London: Tristram Bagley for Mayor* 1. Despite having a big role in Heart's Desire, there is still a lot we do not know about him, his past, and his vision for London. A mayoral campaign would help expand his character beyond "tragic former composer turned crime lord who gibbers madly on the roof." 2. Bagley is already a sort of self-appointed Mayor (well, King) of the Flit, the top clandestine meeting place for urchins, spies, criminals, anarchists, police informants, cats and society members who have gone slumming. So he has some experience in local government and the balancing of competing interest groups. He also already has a rudimentary political organization in the form of the Raggedy Men and a small fortune in stolen paintings through which he could finance his campaign. 3. The Topsy King is a mad artist, specifically a mad composer. In the 19th century composers were badass!! A mad Neathy composer seeped in and driven mad by the Correspondence is even more so.! We have no idea how he'll run, what he'll run on, or how he'll communicate his message. But whatever he does, it would be very avant garde. During the last election we pretty much knew what the candidates would be running on just from seeing their posters. The Bagley's campaign would be a genuine mystery. 4. London's rooftops are their own separate world: poor, impoverished, and largely ignored by street level London. They are also a place of power, seeped in Correspondence knowledge and otherworldly secrets. The Chimney Pot Wars revealed that the Urchin gangs are capable of shutting down London merely by "warring" amongst themselves. When one considers that the Urchins are merely one segment of rooftop society, it becomes clear that the power balance is due for a correction at some point in the future. The Topsy King's candidacy would bring street level London face to face with this powerful other world. 5. After Sinning Jenny's victory and the Contrarian's second place finish, the door is open for more unusual candidates, and one can't get more usual than the Topsy King. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/6/2016	Loon wrote: I agree that the Topless King and the Last Constable would both make excellent candidates, but I am disappointed that the winner of the forum pre-election is being ignored. Of course, the Merciless Modiste is only a Sunless Sea character, but one year must be enough to remedy this problem? NiteBrite Incarnate vs The Goden Most Capering vs The Last Constable. I have absolutely no idea what would happen with this arrangement, but BRING IT ON! -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 8/7/2016	Seems to me we have two options. Either three dull, uninspiring candidates, so none has a clear advantage, or three amazing candidates, so they have to fight it out. Rubbery vs Topsy vs the previously unrevealed Cool Master, Mr Surfs Up. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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The Absurd Rogue Posts: 1049 8/6/2016	This city deserves a better class of (ALLEGED) criminal. Gracious Widow for mayoress. She has long been a positive force in Spite and surrounding areas economic growth, dispering with unneeded regulations that have been putting a choke-hold on London's trade rights. Our Navy has kowtowed to private interests long enough, we need a strong leader with a sense for business. She has long demonstrated empathy and care for the forgotten and oppressed, while staying firm enough to ensure that her edicts are heeded. I need to remind no-one that Sinning Jenny was first critiqued for her campaign and she has done exceptionally well, but we need to recoup the financial losses while still keeping our current relief efforts afloat. Elias Lowe II, Caretaker of Flowerdene Street and Founder of the Flowerdene Initiative says VOTE FOR THE WIDOW, MAKE THE NUMBERS FAVOR LONDON! -- "There is never another story. There is only one, and I try to tell it with every page. I fail, and I try again. There are no new stories; I have this one." -S.N RemainProfane#2532
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 8/8/2016	Has anyone nominated the Postal Rat yet? Hannah for mayor! -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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phryne Posts: 1351 8/3/2016	I would love to have a non-human mayor, for example: -The Tiger Keeper -The Corresponding Ocelot -The No Longer Disgraced Rattus Faber Bandit-Chief -The Hound of Heaven If they have to be human, I think these would make interesting candidates: -Lettice, the Mercy -The Melancholy Curate and/or his Enigmatic Sister edited by phryne on 8/3/2016 -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 8/3/2016	Personally: - The Revolutionary Firebrand - The Pirate Poet - Lettice, the Mercy
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suinicide Posts: 2409 8/3/2016	-the affectionate devil. (Lets get some more species in here. -the struggling artist. (I just want to see him fail at something.) -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 8/3/2016	Miriam Plenty - she is a business woman and has an interesting background. The Bishop of St Fiacre's - a fascinating and compassionate man. I would love to see more of him outside the exceptional stories. Feducci - he's tough; mysterious and yet another character I would like to know more about -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Crater Posts: 11 8/5/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: For a More Moral London: The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner for Mayor What a perfectly delicious candidate she would be. Fiesty, determined, and with the backing of society, she'd be a formidable opponent. What corruptions might she unearth? What might certain people pay to ensure she never takes office? As for my own considerations... I think Lyme would make an excellent candidate. He has determination, enough optimism to go his own way, and enough naivete that others might find ways to trick him into doing their bidding. I could easily see the Cheery Man bankrolling him as a stalking horse, a way to influence things beyond the Hill and the Docks. And can you imagine the reactions of Jasper and Frank, to say nothing of half of London? I’d also like to see if the Captivating Princess might be tempted into joining the ballot. After watching Sinning Jenny win, she might convince herself that here is a way to win back some of the power that her family has squandered. Mr. Wines is still smarting from being kicked to the kerb. Could it be coaxed into backing a royal that wants a taste of democratic might? Would she see support come from a certain island in the zee where roses grow? A third possible face at the polls would be Colonel Molly. Urchins don’t hold places of power in their gangs for long as age finishes what in-fighting and posturing cannot. A young woman, bereft by the Regiment, but with enough of a reputation that she might start calling in favours from other “grown-up” urchins, people who are in positions of influence below stairs and in the darker corners of Spite. Molly would be blunt, plucky enough to fight hard and demand respect. Finally, I’d delight in seeing His Amused Lordship stand. He makes the most sense for a candidate: popular, cheerfully accepting of the public eye, and thoughtful enough to inspire confidence in an optimistic populace. Whether he'd be willing to shoulder such responsibilities remains to be seen although I imagine if Jenny were to have moments of self-doubt, she might well corner him at a party to ask his counsel. And how easy would it be for him to consider going from being an advisor to being the one actually making the decisions? -- Enigmas burn, but truth flares. One day, a truth shall flare upon us all.
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Gul al-Ahlaam Posts: 225 8/7/2016	Are you all forgetting that if the Last Constable sets foot in London ever again, except in the most careful, subtle, incognito way, the Cheery Man will send a towering wave of murders and cutthroats to drive her back out again? She can just barely sneak back to order a meat pie and hang out with the player character, and you think she's going to run for public office? -- The Uncanny Hierophant. The Jewel-Eyed Prince.
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Gul al-Ahlaam Posts: 225 8/5/2016	I think my ideal candidate would be the Bishop of St. Fiacre's: An extraordinarily hard-working, kind-hearted, and thoughtful man. (If you've played Discernment and Flint you'll know what I mean). He's got a sophisticated view of politics, theology, and morality, and works tirelessly to help people (both on a personal level and more distantly, through bureaucracy). He's compassionate to the point where he'll follow you into what he suspects is a trap so that he doesn't pass up an opportunity to save somebody, but practical enough to hedge his bets and have a contingency plan available. Probably the best potential candidate we've got, IMO. Also, on a perhaps ill-fated lark, I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for Dr. Carrywell. She's got a keen mind and an avid imagination, ad she's steeped in all the hidden secrets of the Neath. That's a combination that leads to successful innovation in the public sector. She'd be able to work to refine the approach of the Special Constables, patronize the arts and sciences, and so on. She's got experience too! Probably more than anyone else we've considered. Though I'm really not sure how much of it carries over... -- The Uncanny Hierophant. The Jewel-Eyed Prince.
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A Dimness Posts: 613 8/15/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Loon wrote: I agree that the Topless King and the Last Constable would both make excellent candidates, but I am disappointed that the winner of the forum pre-election is being ignored. Of course, the Merciless Modiste is only a Sunless Sea character, but one year must be enough to remedy this problem? Maybe she could design the Topsy King's campaign outfit? He couldn't very well campaign in rags, you know, and the MM being his official fashion designer would fit the whole "mad artist" theme of his character and campaign. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/15/2016 When I picture the Topsy king in nice clothes my brain redirects me to Sheogorath. -- A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Gul al-Ahlaam Posts: 225 12/28/2016	That the Bishop is a Cousin has no impact on his ability to be mayor, you know, or on much else at all. He is a wise, devoted, and compassionate gentleman. I won't have such slander and bigotry thrown around about him! -- The Uncanny Hierophant. The Jewel-Eyed Prince.
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Gul al-Ahlaam Posts: 225 8/7/2016	I'm putting in a second for the Wry Functionary, if only because I think he's got that perfect combination of tremendous skill with politics and a lack of desire to make a fuss or become famous in any way. -- The Uncanny Hierophant. The Jewel-Eyed Prince.
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Vortigaunt Posts: 51 8/4/2016	1. Feducci- He looks like a tomb-colonist and one of his campaign platforms could be about being nicer to them. He already has contacts with many players, both through the Dangerous storyline and the Dilmun Club, so he's a fairly well known figure. He runs the fighting rings and the Black ribbon, so he also is involved with many of the Fallen London Factions. But players could investigate him and dig up the fact that he's actually a Presyberate spy! 2. Veteran Privy Counselor- He's one of them fancy Society types and what do they like more than being popular. Being Mayor would make him quite popular and he certainly has the money and popularity (among Society) to do it. He's also essentially a career politician and many players know him from the Persuasive storyline. Investigating him could reveal that he isn't particularly fond of the "lower classes". A rich person looking down on the poor? Scandalous! 3. Bishop of St. Fiacres- He is religious, and not as shouty as Southwark, so that should garner him a lot of support. He'd probably be the candidate that advocates more for the lower classes, with genuine intention. Investigating him would reveal the fact that he's actually a Snuffer. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vortigaunt
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Passionario Posts: 777 8/3/2016	Artist, entrepreneur, champion of family values: let's welcome Mr. Clathermont. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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PSGarak Posts: 834 8/3/2016	A few thoughts about what makes an ideal choice for a candidate: Obviously, we want a character that's somewhat established, and at the right "echelon" of society that they would want to run for Mayor and have a realistic chance of doing so. It's useful, but not necessary, for them to have something they care about that can be an election platform. And importantly, they must have some sort of secret or background, so that we as players have dirt to dig up about them. So, on that note: The Ambitious Barrister. I mean, of course someone with "Ambitious" in their name is going to run for Mayor. And uh... well there are investigations that I would definitely be interested in, that's for sure. The only problem is coming up with a platform. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 8/3/2016	The Topsy King, with the Pirate Poet as his campaign manager. Vote Art-Crime 1895! The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner, representing both moral reform and anti-Master sentiment. A daunting city needs a dauntless mayor! And, you know what? I like the Tentacled Entrepreneur suggestion. A mayor who goes "squish" to make us all rich! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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beeawwb Posts: 18 8/3/2016	Next year in Hell. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Beeawwb Soulless and proud.
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Mr. Mercutio Posts: 133 8/3/2016	Mrs Plenty is a woman of means and no small stature who would make an excellent mayor. If Jenny can win, the city will certainly be ready for Plenty next year! -- Mr. Mercutio Immortal. Rich. Only moderately insane. Want a taste of immortality? Reach out to me in-game to ask for a sip of Hesperidean Cider. Please follow Ocelot's guide to asking here. New to our dark city? Send me a message in-game and I will respond when I can with a welcome gift! I welcome most social actions, so feel free to send them to me. Just please don't ask me to Loiter Suspiciously or to help with the Affluent Photographer. I have disavowed all knowledge of her. Galatea LaChance She has gone North, and none shall know what she found there.
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beeawwb Posts: 18 8/3/2016	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: For mayoral candidates I suggest: 3) The Melancholy Curate (or, even better, his sister) -- Because I want to help with his or her campaign in any ... any ... way I can. Can we vote for both at once? Asking for a friend. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Beeawwb Soulless and proud.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 8/4/2016	I'd like to see a candidate who is nominated somewhat against their will. Someone regretful and tired and too old for this nonsense and responsibility, but if elected they'd begrudgingly do a good job. Basically the idea would be someone who is swept into politics by the people rather than going after it themselves. Maybe the Regretful Soldier would be a good candidate? He's a war hero like the Bishop, but much less of an activist. I don't think he'd want to get entangled with bureaucracy either, especially if it means having to deal with devils regularly. But I also think he would be competent at the job even if he needs a drink or two to get by. Some of the relickers might also work for this. They already travel door to door like a campaigner would, they are popular for giving out nice things, and they really don't need even more responsibility/mandatory civil service. But it might work as a "break" from their regular jobs too. -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Grenem Posts: 2067 8/4/2016	The widow- not the gracious one, the soft-hearted one- could use some more fleshing out, and compares reasonably favorably, for free players, to jenny in terms of encounters. the ascetic parlimentarian is a terrible choice, but i must mention him for completionism's sake. if he appeared more often, he'd be my first choice. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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PSGarak Posts: 834 8/4/2016	We should get our good friend Chuffy to run for Mayor! What a lark that would be, eh lads? -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Toran Posts: 193 8/7/2016	I don't know how this thread got so far with no one mentioning Silas, who would be a truly amazing candidate. -- I have a Hepta-Goat. Do you have a Hepta-Goat? https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Anthony%20Toran
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Dr Cop Posts: 38 8/11/2016	The Starveling Cat! The Starveling Cat! It wants to be mayor But who'd vote for that? -- fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hawkinsssable
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Dr Cop Posts: 38 8/11/2016	The Starveling Kitty! The Starveling Kitty! Let's elect her as Mayor Of our fair fallen city! -- fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hawkinsssable
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 12/31/2016	Okay, maybe not that many. The Seasonal of Heart's Blood certainly went "PRAISE FIARCE", though. There's Flint where he is mellow and all nice, then you get two months of psycho-cousins contrasting his niceness! And there's Discernment, I guess. At least that shows he doesn't hold grudge much. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Frederick Metzengerstein Posts: 69 1/7/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: A problem arises however in that I find it difficult to think of a character who could be such a candidate... A lot of the more human associates of the Brass Embassy, such as the Infernal Sommelier, are just Devils thinly and obviously disguised as humans. Mr. Slowcake for Mayor.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/8/2017	The Master wrote: Pumpkinhead wrote: Wait until the bishop gets wind of that! He will probably scream on the streets about how the devils are trying to take over London, maybe someone would believe it if he wasn't the good ol' bishop, I can imagine him going up to "Slowcake" and punching him in the face. Sabotage Slowcake's Campaign Smuggle the Bishop of Southwark into Slowcake's soiree? Only interesting things can result from this! * edited by Anne Auclair on 1/8/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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maleclypse Posts: 259 12/26/2016	I have been advocating for Rattus Faber Representation for years now. I put forth the Disgraced Rattus Faber Bandit Chief. He has spent years amongst humanity learning our ways. He has many allies and years of diplomacy from working with the Midnight Matriarch. -- Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maleclypse
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 8/12/2016	I should enjoy ever so much a Rubbery Man as a Mayoral Candidate next year. However, as our Rubbery brethren are most unjustifiably despised by the population at large, an interesting twist might be to make campaigning for them harder by requiring twice or thrice as many CP, vis-à-vis other candidates, to advance a Rubbery campaign profession. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 8/17/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Thinking about it, the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would actually be the natural candidate to argue for the rights of Clay Men. Consider for a moment that (finished) Clay Men are generally disciplined, hardworking, honest and, most importantly, temperate (explicitly so, Sunless Sea describes them as such). In the eyes of a determined Temperance Campaigner, London's Clay Men would probably make better citizens than most of its humans. A city where the Clay Men had suffrage would, in theory, be a more moral and temperate city (which would match the behavior of RL reformers, who pushed for women's suffrage to increase the number of reformist voters). And since the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner has already demonstrated a strong (and rather weird) sense of compassion for random zee monsters, she'd probably feel a degree of empathy towards the Clay Men, who are far more likable than the average Lovecraftian horror. L.B.'s might like her too if she takes issue with rat skin coats, a position that would go well with her animal welfare beliefs. I absolutely adore this idea. It's so ideal for Fallen London and its playerbase, and so in-line with real-world activists of the time, that I daresay I'll be disappointed if it doesn't come to pass! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Frederick Metzengerstein Posts: 69 8/7/2016	The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. It seems natural that this woman would run for office in order to advance the causes of temperance, women’s suffrage and prevention of cruelty to animals. It would be great to give more attention to the neathy interpretation of these 19C movements. It would also be interesting to see the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner’s answer to campaigning. The principles she upholds and compromises, the alliances she makes and donations she accepts, and so on. His Amused Lordship. Another man who might be a natural choice for mayoral office. He has the money to fund his own campaign, the political connections (being a regular at the court of Her Enduring Majesty and the salon of The Duchess), the secret agenda (his Dilmun club activities) and that indispensable item of earlier historical politics, art patronage. Of course, we can easily imagine attack slogans about him being out of touch, born with a silver spoon in his mouth, etc — just like in a real election!
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Frederick Metzengerstein Posts: 69 8/7/2016	Neither a Rubbery Man, nor the Topsy King can talk legibly? How would they even campaign? It sort of stretches credibility that you’d have people running for political office when they can’t be understood by any of the voters. Then you also have the problem that they do not really have strong connections or grassroots support to base their campaign around. The Contrarian had burrowed his way into the heart and soul of Bohemia and Veilgarden. Jenny had the initial backing of the Masters, who control Fallen London commerce, and through her… personal businesses… has friendly connections with men from all segments of society (high and middle classes, toiling classes), all kinds of night life, dockers, etc. The Bishop had the Church and the goodwill of most godfearing subjects of Her Majesty in the city. Rubbery Men are widely reviled and scorned. Merely being seen in their company besmirches your character. The Topsy King is a raving lunatic and known crime lord. These don’t seem like good choices for political office. edited by Frederick Metzengerstein on 8/7/2016
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FireOfUnknownOrigin Posts: 12 8/5/2016	I suggest a few potentials. The Moody Stalwart: The Jovial Contrarian decides to do a 180 and reinvent himself as a scowling, dependable, dedicated public nuisance. No one is quite sure exactly what his end is, but d__n well sure he is doing it! Your Aunt: A head for getting into trouble, which in politics can be a blessing and a curse. Surprisingly, not as nepotistic as one would believe. The Beleaguered Secretary: Connected in deep with the shakers of Society's bureaucracy, knows how to shuffle the deck in her favor and an eye on the brass ring. No, the metaphorical one (I think). A divisive candidate due to a cavalcade of scandals, including the disappearance of a multitude of official communications. The Garrulous Businessman: A pillar of the community, well known for his success at commerce and intent of returning London to the surface. His inability to avoid sticking his foot firmly in mouth has resulted in questions of his competency and money-making acumen. Not to mention disturbing rumors of close ties to the Khanate and Iron Republic. Doctor Schlomo has been desperately trying to get an appointment. The Elderly Revolutionary: One of the few old-school firebrands before the Fall, he has had limited public exposure in his lifetime in part due to his radical beliefs regarding the rights of citizens. Nevertheless he has inflamed many, youth and otherwise, to the cause by his refusal to take money from large businesses and a single-minded insistence on political revolution. Barely tolerated by the Masters due to his principled, peaceful stance. Others of the Revolution, however, are concerned that he may hinder their designs. The Sleepy Surgeon: Perhaps he indulged in a little too much prisoner's honey. Or he suffers the side effects of Correspondence. Maybe even just naturally that way. Regardless, the surgeon has a quiet melody to his voice and a dedication to piousness that has made him the candidate of the Church. But his hints of a violent past and a desire to invade Hell again leaves many in fear of war. The Overgoat: A shoe in. Really, no other possibility. Seriously... ...please stop looking at me like that, Your Goatness. [spoiler]The Starveling Cat? The Starveling Cat! He'll win your vote. Or get really fat! [/spoiler] edited by FireOfUnknownOrigin on 8/5/2016 edited by FireOfUnknownOrigin on 8/5/2016 -- A spy in the house of the night.
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menaulon Posts: 112 8/4/2016	The glorious return of the Last Constable will not be postponed indefinitely. The election is a prime time for her to run on a platform of fighting crime and organizing a force to protect the Londoners, not Masters. The Implacable Detective is also an inspiring choice. Her vigilance will help her to thrive within byzantine London politics and destory the plots of evildoers. She is also highly respected in many circles. Finally, she could sponsor expeditions to Presbyter to expand the reach of London and reach the Mountain. Soft-hearted widow will be a splendid candidate, with her focus on helping the destitute, even if they escape from prison. She also doesn't have as much to do with the end of Knife-and-Candle season, so her free time can be used for campaigning. Wry Functionary would probably be the greatest mayor in terms of political experience, as he is enmeshed into the Palace politics well enough that the movement into mayor position won't make much of a difference. He is talkative, but has substance. He also doesn't seem like a man with a massive loyalty to some hidden and somewhat nefarious power(s), which makes him better than probably the vast majority of other possible candidates. -- Menaulon Open to social actions, but would prefer to be betrayed in the search for Photographer.
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Ginny Pasteur Posts: 2 8/4/2016	I want to third The Last Constable and second The Barbed Wit and The Ambitious Barrister. But I agree that nonhuman representation would be a positive thing. Would The Tiger Keeper campaigning constitute a spoiler for new players? Would The Pirate-Poet be eligible, being a companion to players already?
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sidhe3141 Posts: 14 8/4/2016	Seconding the Topsy King, Lyme, and the Northbound Parliamentarian. A few others I'd like to see, at some point: The Barbed Wit and the Acclaimed Beauty Ambassadors, Brass and otherwise The Illuminated Gentleman The Bright-Eyed Sequencer The Presbytyrate Adventuress December Slivvy
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Pyrflamme Posts: 4 8/4/2016	I would like to add an unusual candidate: A Master. Of course, they already practically rule the city, you say. Why would a Master want the office of Mayor? I say that is precisely why it would be so intriguing to have a Master campaigning for Mayor. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrflamme
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Professor Strix Posts: 616 8/3/2016	If the Guinea Pig is an option, I would prefer to vote in a Sulky Bat. What about Lyme for mayor? I would be proud to see my student get that high in the social ladder. -- The Inescapable Professor, London's Most Academic Detective. Open to consultation from Mondays to Fridays, above the Silver Binding bookshop, Veilgarden. Half the payment in advance, half after closing the case. No refunds. "THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used." --------- Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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Saklad Posts: 528 8/3/2016	I'd recommend the Sardonic Music-Hall Singer, but she doesn't strike me as the type of person crazy enough to run for office. Maybe some Sunless Sea characters, like the Voracious Diplomat? -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 8/3/2016	Personally, I'm torn between the Masters and the Revolutionaries. So I will vote the Curt Relicker... 's Rat Montgomery! Monty works for Masters with his once-revolutionary master. He is of Masters, of revolutionaries, and most importantly, he's a rat. Slightly more serious suggestions: -Clarence -the Melancholy Curate (I've seen some interesting guys here. I wonder if some of us use this as a list of suspects... That's awesome. Special constables may use this thread as a reference.) -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 8/3/2016	I say we vote in The Northbound Parlimentarian. My reasoning: She is already a elected offcial and knows the position of power well. Radical new ideas which London needs - like replacing all the city's lamps with a specific number of candles. She's the perfect Anti Master Candidate for those who hate The Masters. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Sir Goomy Posts: 111 8/3/2016	The Topsy King! Because he's mad as a bat under a soaked hat and...well, stories with him have the potential to be very fun or very dark...maybe a mix of both and more/other elements. edited by Sir Goomy on 8/3/2016 -- Social actions, invites, roleplaying and general merrymaking is more than welcomed! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sir~Goo
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/3/2016	Sir Goomy wrote: The Topsy King! Because he's mad as a bat under a soaked hat and...well, stories with him have the potential to be very fun or very dark...maybe both too. THE TOPSY KING IS LONDON, PERSONIFIED! VOTE WITH PATRIOTISM! VOTE TOPSY KING! -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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The Master Posts: 804 8/3/2016	Vavakx Nonexus wrote: It seems that one part of the old suggestions thread remains untranslated. The Topsy King! The Most Capering Goden around! He's a delight, and we need more of his almost urchin-esque behaviour. No no no, he can't be a mayor and a judgement at the same time, we need to wait till Failbetter offers us a chance of turning him into a judgement! (then he can change the rules so that he can be a mayor and a judgement at the same time). The Manager of the royal Bethlehem would be very interesting to have as a choice but I can't see him running as a mayor, still, he would be an amazing candidate. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Cthonius Posts: 362 8/3/2016	I'd second the Last Constable. The Manager of the Royal Bethlehem I'd like...but he's of more significance than the election might allow. The Canny Costermonger And definitely The Bishop of St Fiacre's. EDIT: Last Constable as I want to see her more, her sense of duty, and how that would interact with other factions. Manager as I want to see his views more, or what he claims them as, and to see him more involved with the city. Canny Costermonger because why not. St Fiacre as not only is he decidedly not...what he claims to be, he also would give a very unique perspective on this city, the Bazaar, and the city edited by Cthonius on 8/3/2016 edited by Cthonius on 8/3/2016 -- Cthonius, gone North. Gone. Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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Vincent Asmund Posts: 314 8/3/2016	. . . . . . The Starveling Cat? -- Vincent Åsmund, an ex-Author searching to return to his former glory. Konstantin Sorokin, a newcomer to the Neath with revolutionary tendencies.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 8/4/2016	Pirate poet should be fine, unless we're ruling out the last constable as well. More suggestions: -Molly from the regiment -A new sequencer -the albino rat (campaigning on behalf of the watchmaker's daughter) edited by suinicide on 8/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Zero Posts: 136 8/4/2016	Parabuteo wrote: I will go North and burn there, so perhaps I am not the best person to listen to in matters of 'long-term stable government'. But it is clear to me that in terms of candidates likely to exhibit the kind of reckless, unthinking self-destruction I've come to love so much, there can be only one answer: Your very own aunt. I support this. Not as a real candidate, because it would be really strange from a RP standpoint, but an Exceptional Story about your aunt's attempts to get into polytics would be great fun! You'll be your manager, of course. Seriously speaking, I wholeheartedly support the idea of the Topsy King, the Bethlehem Manager and the Last constable as possible candidates. I'd also like to see a non-human candidate, so I also vote for the Rattus Faber Bandit-chef. (As much as I love rubbery men and fluke-cores, I doubt they would be interested in human politics). Maybe some Sunless Sea characters, like the Voracious Diplomat? What about some shiny-eyed New Sequencer from Gran Geode? Having a Mayor in London would be a great first step toward Supremacy: the Dawn Machine. -- SEND ME CHESS AND I SHALL RECIPROCATE Daniel Ember - Once a doctor. Now something else. My Twine games
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/4/2016	HE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN Tneeds better and more expansive representation in FL. After all, it is London's Navy, not the Khanate's. I wholly support a Pro-Dawn Candidate and their appearance in the next election. edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 8/4/2016 -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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The Master Posts: 804 8/4/2016	One problem about the Last Constable is that she is...too good, there wouldn't be anything really bad to find about her and since she is so bloody good there will be little reasons to vote for people who have dark secrets, oh, and the problem that every assasin in bloody London would go for her, but the first one is more important for this. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/4/2016	I bet that she'd try to stop Correspondents and other Benthic folks for uncovering the secrets of the universe/burminating the countryside, so that problem's solved. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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PJ Posts: 210 8/4/2016	I really like the suggestions of the Last Constable and the Bishop of St. Fiacres. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 8/5/2016	A (mostly) serious evaluation of certain proposed candidates prefaced by a general comment concerning the nature of the enjoyment of elections. Early on, it was apparent (as revealed by ganoidyn’s wonderful polling) that Jenny would be the first Neathy Mayor of London. That the race was never close, was never really in any doubt, was, to me, the only blemish on the event. As Anne Auclair has pointed out elsewhere in this thread, should the Topsy King be up for election next year, his victory would be even more sweeping than Jenny’s, robbing the election of any sense of suspense. For those of us entertained by the horserace (such as myself), Tristram would be a dull candidate indeed. Potentially, if only one other very popular candidate ran against the Topsy King, the election might be close. Such a candidate might be the Last Constable. She’s one of the best-developed and faceted characters in Fallen London, there’s wide and fertile scope in her relationship with her father for storytelling … and she’s cute! Back in London, she is resolved to fix it from the top instead of from the bottom. Whilst away she has grown politically sophisticated and, perhaps, more subtle. She’s still an idealist; but based on certain campaign speeches one has to wonder: to what degree does she now believe the ends justify the means? And just who is providing her with such substantial financial banking? Another favourite of mine is the Rubbery Entrepreneur. Mostly because I adore Rubberies. But his candidacy would be an opportunity for a bit more Rubbery Lore to come out. Perhaps he is extremely uncomfortable to receive so much public attention, but he’s been forced or cajoled into running by someone or somefluke. The Soft-Hearted Widow also appeals to me, as a Jenny redux: she’s a do-gooder with a wicked edge and splendid kisses. How and why does she pursue charitable works and a vicious and bloody game? There must be a great backstory here! And of course, I will repeat my call for the Melancholy Curate and/or His Sister … but that’s just because I have fond memories of them. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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th8827 Posts: 823 8/5/2016	The Empress for mayor! Double the power, double the fun. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827 Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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Akernis Posts: 255 8/5/2016	Crater wrote: I’d also like to see if the Captivating Princess might be tempted into joining the ballot. I am not sure if royalty is allowed to participate in such events, but I would love to see her as a candidate. She has been one of my very favourite characters ever since playing 'The Gift' and definitely have the resources and acumen to run, and she's not exactly light on dark secrets to uncover either. Of the popular choices so far the Amused Lordship or the Manager appeals most to me, both are high-standing, affable characters who would surely have the popularity to win and it would be very interesting to delve more into their stories. I would actually prefer the Cheery Man to the Last Constable. It would be very interesting to see him appear like a legitimate politician rather than a crime lord. Although, such a campaign would be fraught with blackmail, intimidation, and even assassination attempt, you know, all the lively side of politics. That said, there are so many fascinating and, well, exceptional characters in Fallen London (and Sunless Sea) that no matter which characters Failbetter choses, I am sure I can find candidate I could throw my support behind with gusto. I am more concerned with there being more than character I would want to support. Then again, that's what alts are for edited by Akernis on 8/5/2016 edited by Akernis on 8/5/2016 -- Vena's profile - http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Akernis
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 8/5/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Early on, it was apparent (as revealed by ganoidyn’s wonderful polling) that Jenny would be the first Neathy Mayor of London. That the race was never close, was never really in any doubt, was, to me, the only blemish on the event. As Anne Auclair has pointed out elsewhere in this thread, should the Topsy King be up for election next year, his victory would be even more sweeping than Jenny’s, robbing the election of any sense of suspense. For those of us entertained by the horserace (such as myself), Tristram would be a dull candidate indeed. I never said that. I only said that if he is indeed a candidate he should be run against someone as equally popular as himself, such as His Amused Lordship. My apologies. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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The Master Posts: 804 8/3/2016	Koenig wrote: Could a rat run for office? It's based on if it's on a string or if it's not. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Loon Posts: 379 8/6/2016	I agree that the Topless King and the Last Constable would both make excellent candidates, but I am disappointed that the winner of the forum pre-election is being ignored. Of course, the Merciless Modiste is only a Sunless Sea character, but one year must be enough to remedy this problem? -- My main character Krawald can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Krawald and welcomes all social actions bar photographers. My alt Loogan Cuthoat can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Loogan~Cuthoat and welcomes all social actions bar cats and photographers. My alt Ally Mooney can be found at http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ally~Mooney and welcomes all social actions including patronage, though they are a bit confused by cats in boxes.
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Kaijyuu Posts: 1047 8/9/2016	Talkative Rattus Faber. -- Be of good cheer. Our contacts have assured us that your sins are forgiven.
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thedeadlymoose Posts: 214 8/9/2016	I suppose a cast of three lady/non-binary mayoral candidates would be too much to hope for? Regardless, here are the candidates in this thread I would personally feel super enthusiastic about! First, the characters who I think are the fucking coolest, and would probably automatically vote for unless they ran against each other: - ISERY, The Cat's Chiefest Claw (a non-binary character of color who is super badass and brings a fascinating outside perspective) (Isery is the only one here I would automatically choose over the others, for personal reasons~) - The Pirate Poet (another rare trans character, would be so much fun to read -- also, implications of a Clay Woman holding public office) - Lettice, the Mercy (would be so much fun to read -- also, implications of a Tomb-Colonist holding public office) - The Northbound Parliamentarian (simply very entertaining, and has to be qualified if she managed to join Parliament -- not just because she's a woman, but she's a frickin Seeker! Imagine how good she must be to pull that off...) - The Presbyterate Adventuress (I haven't played Sunless Sea enough to meet her, but google tells me she's pretty super) - The Barbed Wit (kind of hard to say no to a kickass activist like her) - The Pre-emptive Guinea Pig () Second, the characters who I think would otherwise be entertaining candidates, but similar to the Bishop last election, they don't automatically have my loyalty - The Last Constable (a great potential continuation to that story, which currently is an early-game decision that is massive content lockout unless you side with the abusive evil dude) - The Ambitious Barrister (pretty cool, and it makes sense, could have a fun personal interaction with players, differing for POSI and non-POSI) - Miriam Plenty (an interesting badass, and it does actually make sense for her to run) - The Bishop of St Fiacre's (an intriguing character with an intriguing POV, plus brings the weird factor) - The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner (she also makes sense and seems interesting) - Mr. Inch (intriguing character who could get up to some entertaining shenanigans) - F. F. Gebrandt (lots of possibilities for character expansion, and it makes sense) - The Implacable Detective (same) - The Soft-Hearted Widow (again, same) - Colonel Molly (less familiar with her, but sounds cool) - The Enigmatic Sister (sounds weird enough to be intriguing, and I'd pick her over the Curate) - Silas (super entertaining, though this really doesn't make a lot of sense unless you go the Rubbery route I mention below~) - A Deviless/Devil (this actually makes more sense in light of the Bishop's campaign, it could be publicly played off as the triggering factor for the Devils to seek more representation in London politics) Third, the characters who would be really entertaining, but would IMO obviously sweep the board and therefore probably should not be candidates unless the entire election is crafted knowing that they will win. - The Tentacled Entrepreneur (let's be real here, this is the only Rubbery in the setting who could actually realistically run for Mayor, and could have some surprising parties backing it up to give it a real fighting chance. the language issue isn't really a problem, because someone could translate for it... someone representing its backing parties, who may be willing to take advantage of its poor understanding and blind spots to further their own motives. heck, you could even get weird shit like the Entrepreneur being convinced to campaign for locking up offending Rubberies instead of stoning them -- such major reforms!!!) - The Tiger Keeper (would be so much fun to read, and might also gain some support from well-connected parties) These COULD reasonably be mayoral candidates, if they ran against either each other, or more likely, ran against characters who are likely to be seen as villainous choices and are known from up-front to be 99% likely to lose. Because then you don't get peoples' favored legit candidates losing without even a fighting chance. And if the over the top villain/s somehow won out, that would probably be just as entertaining. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Eris~Jay http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Red~Rose
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Shadowcthuhlu Posts: 1557 8/7/2016	Be so public that it's hard for the Cheery man to touch you without the law noticing? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Dirae%20Erinyes. Closed to calling cards, but open for all other social action. I also love to roleplay.
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 12/15/2016	[spoiler](Heptagoat for mayor)[/spoiler] -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Sam Stephens Posts: 73 12/28/2016	Vexpont wrote: Tarantula wrote: Infinity Simulacrum wrote: I like the concept of having the Bishop of St. Fiacre's as major but I'm not sure that that's balanced seeing as most players who're part of the Dilmun club are sided against him and y'know, ehm cough snuffer cough. Is he really the least popular Dilmun Club member among players? I preferentially picked him, because I got the impression that he'd have an ambiguous attitude to immortality, and that was a very good fit for me. Still, I get the impression that His Amused Lordship probably crushes the other two in popularity terms, but that the Implacable Detective will be second -- just because a lot of people will chuck accumulated Business Cards at her until they succeed. This is very true. I was going to choose His Amused Lordship as my patron, but ended up asking the Detective to sponsor me since it was faster than waiting for Approaching the Gates of the Garden to reach 15 again. -- Hello, delicious friends! I can be found here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sam%20Stephens I'm open to all non-menacing social actions. I particularly enjoy a good mystery. I'm also a Corespondent who can teach at your Orphanage.
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shylarah Posts: 171 12/25/2016	Lyme or Soap in particular for a clay man seem lovely. Unfortunately it's true that Londoners regard them as little more than slave labor. Rubberies are often thought abominations, despite my love for them. AND YAY, someone else who wants a rattus faber mayor! I know I suggested someone with a backing from some of these parties, and possibly supported by the previous mayor. Someone suggested the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner for that. And someone else was pleased because it mirrors social justice discussions at the time (I mentioned that the Civil War was a few decades ago and slavery is mostly frowned upon. Poor Clay Men.) AHAHA can you imagine the storylets if Your Aunt is elected? cackling Storywise, the Last Constable does make sense. And that opens the door for the Cheery Man because he can't let her be Mayor. I still don't think Feducci would be interested in governing. He seems more a man of action. And killing people. ^.^; -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 1/20/2017	Anne Auclair wrote: The potential downside of the Quiet Statesman is that he's almost a complete non-entity (almost being the key word). He's a regular of London's social scene, there's something shady about him, he has something going on with the Ambassador, and he might not have a soul. That's all we know. With Jenny and the Contrarian the election merely expanded and made more prominent already existing characters. With the Quiet Statesman the writers would almost be writing a new character. Also, because of said newness, the Quiet Statesman might start with a distinct disadvantage verses other, more established and hence popular characters. The Jovial Contrarian started the same way - a non-entity firmly embedded in Talk of the Town, and only made his second appearance in the Affluent Photographer's story, then the ball started rolling from there. Good point, though. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/7/2017	Frederick Metzengerstein wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: A problem arises however in that I find it difficult to think of a character who could be such a candidate... A lot of the more human associates of the Brass Embassy, such as the Infernal Sommelier, are just Devils thinly and obviously disguised as humans. Mr. Slowcake for Mayor. That...could actually work really well! Mr Slowcakes is a fictional human persona that has been created by a cabal of Brass Embassy Devils to manipulate London Society. Taking their very influential and respected creation out of the shadows and directly onto the stage might be a logical next step. In this way those who want a Devil to run for Mayor could get their wish without a Devil actually being the official candidate. Of course the Devils would need to find a suitable human patsy or partner to play the role of Mr Slowcake in public and at campaign events, but in a city of professional spies and mad face tailors how difficult would that be really? They’d also need considerable wealth to give Mr Slowcake the image required of him, but Devils have money in abundance. And one would think that Mr Slowcake already has a built in fan club among London’s exclusive and prestige obsessed Society, which also has a number of spies and abstraction fans amongst its number. Surely the Devils might be able to find a soulless spy whose skill set involves infiltrating the upper class. The resulting infernal coalition could potentially be that of the Devils, the Great Game, and Society. It might be a little more challenging for the writers than a straightforward campaign, as they'd be detailing a collaborative writing/acting/espionage project rather than a single candidate, but it could work really well. And it would also allow us to learn more about the inner workings and influence of Slowcake's Exceptionals. edited by Anne Auclair on 1/8/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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ShinWalks Posts: 14 1/3/2017	As far as story goes, I'm inclined to agree that any candidate who is (openly) non-human should probably be out of contention; that means no rubberies, devils, rats, cats, or other Neathy exotics. It also wouldn't make sense for any characters for whom the office of mayor would be a step down rather than up (some I've read here include the Masters, the royal family, the Lady in Lilac, and all the signatories of contracts to sell previous Cities, whom I will not name here for the sake of anyone to whom they are spoilers). The candidates should ideally be characters with whom all players decently advanced in the game will have had some encounters, which rules out anyone exclusively found in an ambition, overzee, in Fate-locked content, etc. Lastly, they should be vaguely credible socially as a political candidate in an uptight Victorian city (so no urchins, no Topsy King, no Silas). Our current examples are a clergyman, a prominent intellectual, and the proprietess of a highly successful independent business; next year's crop should have a similar heft to them. Then, as far as having an interesting elections and generating controversy, I think that the candidates should have clearly divergent worldviews, values and platforms, so that it's easy to say what's different between them in any of the three pairwise comparisons. Further, it's nice if they're characters with secrets, some known to more advanced players and some yet unknown, so that there can be intrigue, scandals and October surprises during the campaign. Whoever ends up standing should meet all of these criteria, in my opinion. One question for the developers: is it understood that the incumbent mayor will not be seeking (or eligible for) reelection? My personal nominations go to: The Bishop of St. Fiacre's: We already have an example of a bishop running, so he's got the right qualifications. He's probably the "good guy" candidate, given the moderate and philosophical way he's been portrayed in recent stories, but he's got some personal secrets that might come out to his harm in the campaign, and his ultimate goals and views about London and its people are unclear. I also think that someone in the Dilmun Club ought to make it onto this years' slate, another box he ticks for me. His platform could be one of social inclusion and support for the arts and sciences, winning votes from the Bohemians, urchins and outsiders. Alternate choice: His Amused Lordship The Cheery Man: Spite's favorite kingpin is in that lovely gray area where absolutely everyone knows that he's in organized crime and yet no one (alive) can quite prove it, and that region has produced many a successful politician across history. There are many who would stand to profit from his elevation, and many who would be appalled and scandalized by his even being on the ticket, which seems like a nice source of passion and controversy. He certainly has the resources to mount a campaign (he says in one conversation that he's wealthier than half the people in the House of Chimes), and he stands to dominate the revolutionary and anti-Master vote. Alternate choice: Miriam Plenty The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner: A prominent political activist already, with a clear platform of "cleaning up the city" (perhaps including running out some of its non-human undesirables?). She would fill a role similar to the Bishop of Southwark's in last year's election, but with a broader message of social reform than just "kick out the devils." The lady would be a hit with lovers of law and order, social conservatives, and those who dislike things with faces like squid. Alternate choice: F. F. Gebrandt Can't wait to see who it is! The first campaign was excellent fun. -- Helena Korinek, the Bohemian Metatheologian Harold Hill, the Musical Huckster
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	Again, storywise, I'm not sure someone who openly runs on a platform of promoting the interests of visiting foreigners or mysterious and potentially dangerous monsters over the interests of the people of London would have a viable chance of being elected by those same people. If they kept such an agenda secret or ran on a milder platform that simply promoted tolerance and kindness toward London's non-human visitors, then it wouldn't be so hard to believe. A Londoner can be against putting a visiting foreigner in charge of their city and still wish to protect those same foreigners from getting stoned to death in the streets, after all. And I'm not sure I like the idea of Sunless Sea characters being candidates, unless they are characters who have a strong presence in FL as well. Not all of us have played Sunless Sea edited by Kukapetal on 1/6/2017
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suinicide Posts: 2409 1/6/2017	We could have an early newspaper article explaining who they are, not just what they stand for. (But only hinting at their secrets) -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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John Moose Posts: 276 12/31/2016	I'd love to see non-human candidates. While I'm afraid a rubbery would be somewhat ill-suited to a competition of popularity and persuasiveness, I see no reason a respectable cousin or a particularly charming devil couldn't win the race. Personally, I'd have a hard time not voting the Extravagantly-Titled Tigress should she run. (The Tiger-Keeper would probably be a bit of an unfair choice as a representator of the feline community, as in it wouldn't be much of a contest no matter who he was up against.) A devil winning the election through sheer showmanship would make for some marvellous material for satire. A slogan of "I'll take your souls and your money", and people voting for them just because they find their candor so amusing and refreshing in a politician. edited by John Moose on 12/31/2016
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PSGarak Posts: 834 1/2/2017	Like it or not, the category of "non-human" still encompasses a range of "more human-ish" to "less human-ish." Our Rubbery brethren are dear to my heart, but they still get stoned on the streets on occasion. Tomb-Colonists and Devils can generally mingle without as much trouble. (Part of that may be that Rubbery folk don't fight back as well as the other two.) I think when talking about non-humans, we really should discuss it on a case-by-case basis, because Londoners' attitude towards Clay Men isn't the same as it is towards Snuffers. I think a candidate who is secretely non-human is extremely viable. One who is acknowledged non-human (or publically revealed part-way through) is less likely but more interesting. One who is a human proxy for a non-human faction would be... well honestly, the Neath is so tangled with power and mysteries and influence, it's a little less unique than one would think at first. Depending on which tin foil hat one wears, we arguably already had such a candidate. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/PSGarak
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/2/2017	Well, I think the major in-universe issue with a lot of the non-human characters is that they aren't really members of London society. They are either visitors to London from their own, seperate societies, like the Devils or Rubberies, or they have their own societies alongside, that sometimes intersect with but aren't really a part of, London society (like the Rattus Fabers). It is understandable that the vast majority of Londoners would be nervous about electing someone who most likely has few ties to London itself but likely has strong ties to a foreign government. The possibility that they may put their own people's interests ahead of the Londoners they were elected to govern is just too high (and yes, by the same token, it would be understandable if the Devils, Rubberies, Rats, etc. were equally reluctant to elect a Londoner to rule over their societies for the same reason). Now, if there was a Rubbery, or a Devil or a Rat who had truly defected from their own society and become a true and loyal Londoner at heart, then it's possible they could make as a good of a mayor as a human Londoner could, but they don't seem to be all that common and they don't wear signs, so I could see the London public not wanting to take a chance on such a candidate. In addition, it seems very possible that some of the non-human people (like the Rubberies and Clay Men) think differently than humans, and don't understand us all that well (and vice versa, of course). It's probably not a good idea to put someone who doesn't understand humanity in a position of power over humans. Devils have the issue of the vast majority of them viewing humans as a sort of prey or opportunity for profit. Again, not a good idea to place someone like that in a position of authority over humans. Snuffers have the problem of being mysterious/secretive/potential face stealing murderers. People would again be understandably reluctant to vote for someone who is a member of a group they know nothing about, including it's motivations, desires, loyalties, or whether that face it's wearing came from a freshly murdered victim or an already dead corpse. Of course, if members of any of these groups were to become candidates, I'm sure players would still vote for/possibly elect them, but it would still be hard to justify in-universe, since the London public has legitimate reasons to be wary of such candidates.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 1/8/2017	Wait until the bishop gets wind of that! -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 1/6/2017	Kukapetal wrote: But you COULD have learned about Jenny prior to the election. The info was all there in the game. If the character is from a different game that we don't play, however, the info is not there, and we have only the info we get via the character's campaign to convince us. Without knowing the person's character and history, how are we supposed to decide if they're being genuine or lying through their teeth? :P I did notice Jenny at one point prior to the election, but I think it was just in one storylet in veilgarden or something in the early game. Something to do with the parlour of virtue, I think. I didn't actually recall that snippet until after we had already elected her. I thought she was just a nun, because I wasn't paying all that much attention to the game at that point. Then about a week later I realized our dear mayor was actually a lady of negotiable virtue. (Only in fallen london...) Anyway, I honestly didn't really know much about any of the candidates at that point. I think the contrarian was the only one I had really heard about because of the affluent photographer, but I didn't really know much about him. I hadn't been to the 4th coil, otherwise I would have known the Bishop. I don't think any of them had all that extensive backstories prior to the election, except maybe the bishop. This is especially true for newer players, like I was at that point. I think a lot of the playerbase probably plays the game like I did back then, which is to say, not knowing a whole lot. My point... uh, what was I getting at here? Oh yes. My point is the only reason I really know any of these candidates is because they became candidates. I think the majority of the players aren't into the game nearly as much as we here are, so I think next year, the a lot of people will be learning about the new candidates for the first time. Thus, I think it's okay to have an out-of-the blue candidate, because for most people, that's what they'll be anyway. In any case, I think the Northbound parliamentarian should run so she can lead us NORTH. Maybe that's how London ends up beyond the Avid Horizon in time for Sunless Skies? WHAT IS THE NUMBER? edited by Pumpkinhead on 1/6/2017 edited by Pumpkinhead on 1/6/2017 -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	But you're confusing your particular situation (just happened to be new to the game at the time of the election) or playstyle (didn't pay much attention to the characters until they became candidates and was fine with that) with a flawed mechanic (having candidates it is impossible for ANY player to get to know unless they purchase another game). Just because certain players might not know much about the candidates due to being new or don't care about the characters prior to them becoming candidates is no reason to force that on all players Again, one is a particular person's playstyle or circumstances, the other is a flawed mechanic that keeps all players in the dark, no matter what their preferences are.
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The Master Posts: 804 1/8/2017	Pumpkinhead wrote: Wait until the bishop gets wind of that! He will probably scream on the streets about how the devils are trying to take over London, maybe someone would believe it if he wasn't the good ol' bishop, I can imagine him going up to "Slowcake" and punching him in the face. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Lisbella Peridot Posts: 138 12/25/2016	Sister Lydia better not be a candidate next year. -- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now. Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation. I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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PJ Posts: 210 12/15/2016	I doubt the Masters consider the Mayor a "position of power". More like the leader of a well-dressed urchin gang. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Eldenandel Posts: 11 8/17/2016	The Topsy King would be quite the character in an electoral race, and would have my vote in a heartbeat. -- Social activities of all kinds are welcome! Be it Chess, or a night at Dante's, to passing along certain boxes. If you are a fellow seeker then this invitation counts doubly so for you! All I ask is that the favor is returned. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Elden~Andel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehiVrZtHtpc
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suinicide Posts: 2409 12/28/2016	Could be a scandal though, you know how some people are. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/15/2016	The Ambitious Barrister is ambitious... -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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suinicide Posts: 2409 8/7/2016	And I think the master's would want their little experiment to actually happen, and interfere if there's an assassination. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Lord Gazter Posts: 665 8/8/2016	My choices for who should run for Mayor Next Year Would Be: His Amused Lordship A Devil or Deviless I do think the next election could be very interesting if some of the groups within London pledged their support to candidates for example: the tomb colonists, the rubbery men, the Brass Embassy, and so on and so forth. -- Lord Gazter: a charming gentleman of noble birth and a person of significant influence. Victoria Crow: a spirited la.. young woman and freshly anointed firebrand. Get a copy of the Phlegethonian Gazette for pertinent and trustworthy news! Only five pence!
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The Master Posts: 804 8/8/2016	Isery for mayor! Bring honey to London. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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LuckyZero Posts: 7 8/8/2016	I'd like a Deliciously Bizarre Election: Topsy King vs Tentacled Entrepreneur vs Mrs Plenty
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 8/9/2016	The problem with the Northbound Parliamentarian is that, if memory serves, she's a fan-designed character, modelled by one of the backers of the Silver Tree Kickstarter. edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 8/9/2016 -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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The Master Posts: 804 8/9/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: The problem with the Northbound Parliamentarian is that, if memory serves, she's a fan-designed character, modelled by one of the backers of the Silver Tree Kickstarter. edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 8/9/2016 She is still a part of the game now, just because she was designed by a player doesn't mean she isn't a part of the game now, still, it would be silly if she tried to be a mayor but it would be alot of fun. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/7/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Seems to me we have two options. Either three dull, uninspiring candidates, so none has a clear advantage, or three amazing candidates, so they have to fight it out. Rubbery vs Topsy vs the previously unrevealed Cool Master, Mr Surfs Up. I'm not convinced the Topsy King would be a runaway favorite, given the right opponents/issues. But a rubbery would be, regardless of who they were up against. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Lollerisms Posts: 11 8/7/2016	I'd love to see a squidly face in the upcoming election. The rubberies and their...questionable approach to the natural way of things are one of the more interesting parts of the FL lore for me. Secondly: A member of London's Admiralty would be an interesting character, riding on a military career largely built on the Surface. Also, they would probably try to avoid having a machine replace THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN THE SUN -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/L0ll3risms A Monster Hunter
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WotanAnubis Posts: 2 8/5/2016	I come to this game from a more Sunless Sea perspective. With that in mind, I would like to propose the following hypothetical candidates. The Dark-Spectacled Admiral - Solid, dependable, seeking to rebuild what's left of London's Admiralty and influence through proper means. Heavily outnumbered. The Longshanks Gunner - Once another member of an urchin-gang, now a great believer in freedom and social mobility. Spent some time in Khan's Shadow, but surely has no real Khanate ties. Surely. The Lady in Lilac - For those who feel that political promises are always ephemeral and fleeting, the Lady in Lilac is the perfect candidate.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/5/2016	For those who do not have Sunless Sea, here is the full text of the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner's very memorable Roser Wharf cameo ^^ [spoiler]A Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is cooing at your Live Specimen She was here to protest against the shadow-puppet production of The Honey Harvest, but passes her placard to one of her supporters. "How much for the beastie?" Room in her heart "I never did like to see anything locked up." She searches her purse for payment, as two of her burlier supporters heft the cage. The thing inside is remarkably still. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner hands over the fee, and pats the cage. "Come now, dearie. Let's get you out of here."[/spoiler] Like, seriously, how can you not love her after that? ^^ Some elaboration on an earlier post: Anne Auclair wrote: 4. The 1890s saw serious reform movements and politics: temperance, women's suffrage and prevention of cruelty to animals. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner hits all three (in her Sunless Sea cameo she buys a Live Specimen from you, saying she hates seeing living creatures caged up). Fallen London has made some references to the Neathy equivalents of these reform movements, but they've always been in the background. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would thus give us the opportunity to not only learn more about said movements but also to participate in or oppose them. This would deepen the game's overall world building. There are a lot of social problems in London for a Temperance Campaigner to tackle. 1. Honey addiction, the effects of which can range from merely impoverishing to...extremely terrifying. 2. Normal alcoholism - consider all the drunks in Spite (who are regularly robbed and beaten too). 3. Blackwing Absinthe abuse, which sends people into violent fits of cloaked mischief. 4. Laudanum abuse, a deceptively easy way of treating nightmares. 5. Weird, unsanitary and unregulated meat markets, which make people unaccountably peckish. 6. Indecent entertainments and a Bohemian celebrity culture which sell or glamorize all of the above. Consider all the misery these social ills have caused. It would be good to see a candidate seek to address them. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/5/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Matthew Enigma Posts: 28 8/5/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: I can testify to this. I chose the Implacable Detective because she seemed more ruthless then His Amused Lordship, but not a snuffer. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/4/2016 Well, I chose His Amused Lordship and I have to disagree. He is no pushover compared to the Implacable Detective and the Bishop, despite his friendly manners, I wouldn't describe him as "ruthless" but he certainly has a darker side that would probably go to any lengths in order to prevent the Garden from being misused (after all, isn't there a quote from Pratchett about a just man being more dangerous than an evil one?). -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Matthew%20Enigma Open to all invitations!
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NiteBrite Posts: 1019 8/4/2016	Mr. Mercutio wrote: Mrs Plenty is a woman of means and no small stature who would make an excellent mayor. If Jenny can win, the city will certainly be ready for Plenty next year! It would be nice to have a lady of the well in office ;-) -- I AM currently accepting calling cards. Stats loss counter: reset, irrigo equivalent: none [00:34] <@ortab> NiteBrite's laugh is that of a condemned soul gazing into the abyss. Merciless Modiste avatar by Paul Arendt (based on an original image by Joe England) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/TheBriteModiste
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Vexpont Posts: 137 8/4/2016	Tarantula wrote: Infinity Simulacrum wrote: I like the concept of having the Bishop of St. Fiacre's as major but I'm not sure that that's balanced seeing as most players who're part of the Dilmun club are sided against him and y'know, ehm cough snuffer cough. Is he really the least popular Dilmun Club member among players? I preferentially picked him, because I got the impression that he'd have an ambiguous attitude to immortality, and that was a very good fit for me. Still, I get the impression that His Amused Lordship probably crushes the other two in popularity terms, but that the Implacable Detective will be second -- just because a lot of people will chuck accumulated Business Cards at her until they succeed. -- Dangerous to my enemies; loyal to my friends. Not too handy at telling the difference. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vexpont
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Kestrel Zestvim Posts: 40 8/4/2016	Ooooh, this is great fun! Mainly I want particular favorites of mine to run, for the new story content. Characters already mentioned in this thread, in descending order of YES PLEASE: Pre-emptive Guinea Pig Barbed Wit the Wry Functionary the Manager of the Royal Beth Anyone from Mahogany Hall F.F Gebrandt Mrs. Plenty the Topsy King the Last Constable the Melancholy Curate New nominees, likewise listed: the Presbyterate Diplomat is charming, interesting, and I think plausible The Honey-Addled Detective is a love whom I'm not sure would willingly run. the Wilting Dandy isn't an especially reasonable candidate, but I have a great deal of affection for him. I'd also like to add the Drownies to the list of Tomb-Colonists & Rats & Devils & Clay Folk (any and all of whom are A+, would like to read about). Are there any regularly-seen drownies aside from the Drownie Keeper? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Kestrel Zestvim
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 8/4/2016	A lot of people already voiced the one candidate I've had in mind, who is the Topsy King. Though I didn't know he had a bigger role in an ambition. He's one of the most interesting characters to me so it would be fun to see how he'd handle an election. Just imagine urchins and criminals urging people in the street to vote in their own way. The Last Constable is another good choice but I'm unsure about it. I'd love to see more content between her and the Cheery Man. The story in the beginning is utterly fascinating. But at the same time I'm not sure if The Last Constable would work out with the Election's mechanics. At best, the Cheery Man would be a better candidate. It means digging up information on the Last Constable and his family ties. So we could get more content on The Last Constable through him. Another candidate to consider: Mr. Inch. He has tamed animals and frequents the Labyrinth. Yet he's apart of Feducci's circle. Forgive me if there's more content besides that but I'd love to hear how he joined the Black Ribbon and his story too. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/4/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Grenem wrote: the ascetic parlimentarian is a terrible choice, but i must mention him for completionism's sake. if he appeared more often, he'd be my first choice. Who is he again? Just the guy from the Favours: High Places cash-in. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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nathan7 Posts: 40 8/4/2016	The Manager of The Royal Bethlehem Hotel 1895 The Manager reluctantly announced his running for mayor. He was slow at first but claims that a persuasive gentlemen convinced him to run. He beckons the crazed, the strange, and the mysterious voters to support him on his merry way! Though his motives for running are not clear, you can be sure that his platform is the same! He refuses to be interviewed and when addressing supporters only says that if he is elected, he will make London the crazed madhouse it always deserved to be! Though not all is certain, we can be sure of one thing. The manager is not a contestant that can be counted out. Jack of Smiles 1895 There have been whispers, rumors, and gossip of a familiar name joining the race. One who would be crazy to show his face in the election. However, that is the word that best describes the man. Rumour has it that the infamous Jack of Smiles has tossed his knife into the race, and the reaction has been huge. Many are scared and confused by the news, but a select few have reacted with a malicious joy. One thing is for sure, if this man wins, God help us all! Knuckle-Scarred Inspector 1895 As soon as the election was announced, the Knuckle-Scarred Inspector was first in line to sign up. He claims that there will never be peace without order. He says "The Constables are pawns of the masters and the neddy men are corrupt bullies. The only true way", he claims,"for the law to be upheld is with the velocipede squad." Although the Insector has been very vocal about his platform, whenever he has been given criticism, or asked to be more specific about the kind of peace the Velocipede Squad will bring, he has been much more secretive. Although some question his method, he definitely stands for the upholding of the law. However, which laws he will enforce, only time will tell. The Kashmiri Princess 1895 The Kashmiri Princess has announced her (their?) candidacy, and many people are excited! They (she?) have been talented at capturing hearts during her (their?) performances. However, some say that although she is an incredible entertainer, there is no way they can handle the politics of the mayoral election. Despite all of the doubters, they have crowds of supporters shouting her name. She claims that what London really needs is more freedom. Freedom from convention, and freedom from obligation, and freedom from oppression. Whether or not this is all just a strategy to get more business or not, you know that the two of them are a powerful force. edited by nathan7 on 8/4/2016 edited by nathan7 on 8/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Nathan575
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 8/3/2016	For mayoral candidates I suggest: 1) Me 2) I second the motion for the Tentacled Entrepreneur -- Rubbery Rights! Sure to incite vigorous (and moistly sloppy) debate. 3) The Melancholy Curate (or, even better, his sister) -- Because I want to help with his or her campaign in any ... any ... way I can. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Koenig Posts: 466 8/3/2016	Could a rat run for office? -- Koenig: Extraordinary. Invisible. Shattering. Legendary.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 8/3/2016	I second your aunt. More seriously I would love to see some more connected politicians. Perhaps the Knuckle Scarred Inspector or the Last Constable for the Constables, the Provost of Summerset or Doctor Orthos for the University and Miriam Plenty or Silas the Showman just because. If we wanted some Ambition related candidates Fiacre or even Poor Edward (I wouldn't mind seeing more of him for some reason) may be interesting and I can even imagine the Delightful Adventuress getting involved just to spite that rival of hers. -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Veeb Posts: 16 8/4/2016	I'd nominate Penstock for mayor. Not because my character would like the idea (his Ambition is Nemesis and it's rather soured him against the Bazaar) but because I quite like Penstock. The Bazaar's interests are his, which would make for some good story (Mr. Pages' unintelligible propaganda, for instance) and he's a fool in love, which is always interesting. -- The Fearsome Romantic. Adores Russian poetry. Has opinions on fashion. Sharpens knives. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Veeb
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A Dimness Posts: 613 8/4/2016	I like the concept of having the Bishop of St. Fiacre's as major but I'm not sure that that's balanced seeing as most players who're part of the Dilmun club are sided against him and y'know, ehm cough snuffer cough. But I do definetly think that the Church should hold a stake, so I'd like to volunteer the Loquacious Vicar and Father Norton. -- A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 8/5/2016	The Implacable Detective The Presbyterate Diplomat The Acclaimed Beauty -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Kestrel Zestvim Posts: 40 8/5/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Kestrel Zestvim wrote: the Wilting Dandy isn't an especially reasonable candidate, but I have a great deal of affection for him. Again, who is this? ^^ He's encountered in Ascending the Reliables List of Mr. Pages. The story involved some of my favorite things--plants, queer romance, an option for a deeply satisfying Magnanimous choice, and a souvenir. I was fairly certain he'd shown up in a minor capacity in other storylets, but the wiki doesn't support that. I reckon I found his story engaging enough, and the souvenir weapon pretty enough, that I over-estimated his presence in the game--meaning he's even less reasonable than the far-reach I thought earlier. Tl;dr not mayor material, but more of him would make me a very happy guyl. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Kestrel Zestvim
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/4/2016	Kestrel Zestvim wrote: the Wilting Dandy isn't an especially reasonable candidate, but I have a great deal of affection for him. Again, who is this? ^^ Tarantula wrote: The Implacable Detective isn't as nice of a person as either of the other two, though. Much more motivated by her own individual personal reasons and than the others. A Ruthless and Subtle lady, sharp as a tack, an old immortality seeker determined to find the Garden. I can testify to this. I chose the Implacable Detective because she seemed more ruthless then His Amused Lordship, but not a snuffer. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Corran Posts: 401 8/5/2016	Quoting from the blog post: Blog wrote: With Election, we wanted to try creating specific content based on how candidates were trending. So, in the second week, we added new secrets about the candidates, expecting to see a shift of players. How were these new secrets revealed? I must admit that I was rather busy with other stuff at the time so I sort of leveled myself to level 20 on autopilot. Where exactly did I miss these secrets? -- My Fallen London profile
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 8/5/2016	Corran wrote: Quoting from the blog post: Blog wrote: With Election, we wanted to try creating specific content based on how candidates were trending. So, in the second week, we added new secrets about the candidates, expecting to see a shift of players. How were these new secrets revealed? I must admit that I was rather busy with other stuff at the time so I sort of leveled myself to level 20 on autopilot. Where exactly did I miss these secrets? The new info was revealed in the first paragraph of text when you completed an investigation in the second half of the festival, the second paragraph being the candidate's main secret. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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annalibertas Posts: 161 8/6/2016	I'm sure he's been mentioned already, but I'd like to nominate the Wry Functionary. Shows up early enough in the game to be accessible to newer players (i think, I don't know where his storylets got put in a named signed with a flourish when the early game was redone) and he's already into politics. Also hearing his commentary on the election hijinks would be lots of fun -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Anna%20Libertas Accepting all social actions & boxed cats https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Julliah%20Randolph Alt, will accept all social actions whenever I log on
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 8/7/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Seems to me we have two options. Either three dull, uninspiring candidates, so none has a clear advantage, or three amazing candidates, so they have to fight it out. Rubbery vs Topsy vs the previously unrevealed Cool Master, Mr Surfs Up. I'm not convinced the Topsy King would be a runaway favorite, given the right opponents/issues. But a rubbery would be, regardless of who they were up against. I think it all depends . . . If you put three equally popular/interesting characters together, as others have said, it works perfectly well. I think the Rubbery faction is a little divisive; there are those who love them enough to spend money on unique stories, more on unique spouses, who boost their connections high . . . others who probably only know them as the 'squid people' on that 'card that keeps popping up. They probably aren't as divisive as some other characters, but I think you could get a fair contest with a carefully chosen couple of opponents. That being said . . . I'm wondering whether it needs to be a fair fight. This was the first election, so it's not as though FBG could gauge in advance who was most popular of the Bishop, Jenny, or Contrarian, so that may have factored into why Jenny won with a landslide, or it could have been intentional . . . likewise, I think the released information said that Jenny had more voters at level 20 than others, which makes a big difference. A candidate could have a minority of voters, but a majority of the 20+ squad, and thus still win . . . so it gets kind of tricky on that front. The biggest problem with a Rubbery candidate is probably that they'll need a translator . . . If we suggest a Rubbery, maybe we need to suggest a running mate? :-S
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Edward Frye Posts: 263 8/5/2016	Here's my suggestions -Topsy king: A quote from the Topsy King, A goden most capering! Hines the walkskies, chanter the powb raggedy men. Dab with viddlo, too, goden!' -The last constable -Lyme edited by Edward Frye on 8/5/2016 -- My profile, http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Edward~Frye Edward Frye's Appearance http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?Page=7 My alt http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ulysses~Beechworth My Mr. Eaten profile http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Laurens~Haymore Edward Frye is currently open to pretty much any social options except loitering.
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Wojciech Posts: 52 8/11/2016	Are my eyes failing me, or have no one indeed suggested the Wry Functionary? Wouldn't he be the most pleasant, most fitting candidate for the office, with loads of relevant experience and knowledge? -- Wojciech, a Paramount Presense Glassman. Fnardl, a Vake-Hunting Midnighter.
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Dr Cop Posts: 38 8/11/2016	The Starveling Cat! The Starveling Cat! Promises trade with the North And to help us grow fat -- fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hawkinsssable
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malaugurie Posts: 39 8/8/2016	Feducci, of course. Who doesn't love Feducci! -- "Hey there devils it's me, ya girl Merle"
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shylarah Posts: 171 8/19/2016	Ooh, that's a good point, Anne. Imposing temperance on others is, unfortunately, not something Lady Grey would approve of. =/ But there are no perfect platforms, now are there? -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/15/2016	aegisaglow wrote: Psyche Labyrinth wrote: Oh my goodness, The Manager of the Royal Beth? I would vote for him in a heartbeat! The Manager of the Royal Beth is the only person who could make me consider voting strategically. He's already showed up in my hand unwanted too many times, I don't need a Merry Gentleman Mayoral Influence. On one hand he's fairly anti-Bazaar, he calls it a horrible institution when your reporters interview him. On the other, he seemed to be on the moderate side of the Contrarian's campaign. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/15/2016	I think the Barbed Wit would make a splendid mayoral candidate, but I suspect she's far too clever to actually want the job. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Willowoak Posts: 8 12/15/2016	the Contrarian. The Barbed Wit. Imagine their arguments!
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Psyche Labyrinth Posts: 159 12/15/2016	The Master wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: It seems that one part of the old suggestions thread remains untranslated. The Topsy King! The Most Capering Goden around! He's a delight, and we need more of his almost urchin-esque behaviour. No no no, he can't be a mayor and a judgement at the same time, we need to wait till Failbetter offers us a chance of turning him into a judgement! (then he can change the rules so that he can be a mayor and a judgement at the same time). The Manager of the royal Bethlehem would be very interesting to have as a choice but I can't see him running as a mayor, still, he would be an amazing candidate. Oh my goodness, The Manager of the Royal Beth? I would vote for him in a heartbeat! -- Neath citizen, zee captain, possible deranged serial killer... Profile Backstory Appearance Always happy to meet new people and help out where I can!
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shylarah Posts: 171 8/15/2016	I would love to see the Last Constable return, with allies, intent on making a change. Of course if she does, one would think the Cheery Man might have something to say. He can't get around very well without people causing trouble (and possibly seeing certain things he'd rather they not know), so maybe he backs someone else? Feducci I would like to know more about, but he doesn't seem the sort that would venture into politics in such a manner, at least not to me. I was glad to see the Contrarian last time, although I suspected he was having a lark at first -- and even when I realized he was not, the involvement of certain other people in his campaign made me wary. Not to mention that someone who is known for always taking the other position isn't best suited for making change. I love the character, though. I'd love to see a non-human. My personal fondness for Tomb-Colonists, Rubbery Men, Clay Men, and Rattus Faber does play into this. Unfortunately, there is discrimination against most of them. If a Rubbery Man tried to run, I suspect there'd be a riot, I'm not sure people would take an L.B. seriously, and the Tomb-Colonists tend to be a minority in London for a reason. However, someone with the backing of one or more of these groups -- particularly the rubberies, I think -- would be lovely. Perhaps someone looking to encourage equality? It is a few decades after the American Civil War, and I think various other European countries had already done away with slavery. Perhaps some revolutionary with a goal different from those of most. Might even win him or herself the support of the previous Mayor. I could see Jenny, champion of the downtrodden, approving this. Possibly the Contrarian as well. He strikes me as the right sort. The Bishop...not so much. He goes on about abominations a bit much, I think. edited by shylarah on 8/15/2016 -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/15/2016	shylarah wrote: I'd love to see a non-human. My personal fondness for Tomb-Colonists, Rubbery Men, Clay Men, and Rattus Faber does play into this. Unfortunately, there is discrimination against most of them. If a Rubbery Man tried to run, I suspect there'd be a riot, I'm not sure people would take an L.B. seriously, and the Tomb-Colonists tend to be a minority in London for a reason. However, someone with the backing of one or more of these groups -- particularly the rubberies, I think -- would be lovely. Perhaps someone looking to encourage equality? It is a few decades after the American Civil War, and I think various other European countries had already done away with slavery. Perhaps some revolutionary with a goal different from those of most. Might even win him or herself the support of the previous Mayor. I could see Jenny, champion of the downtrodden, approving this. Possibly the Contrarian as well. He strikes me as the right sort. The Bishop...not so much. He goes on about abominations a bit much, I think. Thinking about it, the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would actually be the natural candidate to argue for the rights of Clay Men. Consider for a moment that (finished) Clay Men are generally disciplined, hardworking, honest and, most importantly, temperate (explicitly so, Sunless Sea describes them as such). In the eyes of a determined Temperance Campaigner, London's Clay Men would probably make better citizens than most of its humans. A city where the Clay Men had suffrage would, in theory, be a more moral and temperate city (which would match the behavior of RL reformers, who pushed for women's suffrage to increase the number of reformist voters). And since the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner has already demonstrated a strong (and rather weird) sense of compassion for random zee monsters, she'd probably feel a degree of empathy towards the Clay Men, who are far more likable than the average Lovecraftian horror. L.B.'s might like her too if she takes issue with rat skin coats, a position that would go well with her animal welfare beliefs. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/15/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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shylarah Posts: 171 8/15/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Thinking about it, the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner would actually be the natural candidate to argue for the rights of Clay Men. edited by Anne Auclair on 8/15/2016 I'm not particularly familiar with her, but if it'd work for rubberies, Clay Men and maybe rats, I'd be thrilled to tears. You have excellent points regarding temperance and sufferage. edited by shylarah on 8/15/2016 -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 12/30/2016	The Bishop might be the least popular Dilmun Club patron at first due to how old the Club is, but the staggering amount of new and Exceptional Stories that sing his praises probably made him the most popular and positive person among the clergy. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 12/31/2016	I'm just hoping that this year's companions might still be purchasable as advisors during next year's election, because Juniper has started a collection of clerical associates and regrets not hiring the Dame-Harbinger. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 1/2/2017	Frederick Metzengerstein wrote: Does anyone like me hope that a nonhuman character doesn't run for mayor? Oh, don't get me wrong, I like nonhuman characters as much as the next guy (or gal, or indistinct). I'm not a fan of Rubbery Men or ratus-faber, but I love the cats and I think the Person Engine would make a fantastic mayor. But that's not the point. The point is that Victorian England politics was dominated by xenophobia and nativism. It stretches credibility that at the turn of the 19C Londoners would elect an outcast and pariah (eg Rubbery Man) or enemy alien (eg devil) as Lord Mayor. I think it's something mentioned earlier on . . . It was an interesting discussion, but - as more intelligent people than myself have gone into great detail - I'll just try to be brief. I think London in the game is much more tolerant, forward-thinking, and liberal than London in real life at that time; we have a known prostitute for mayor, open gay marriages/relationships, and even openly transgender characters (in terms of the PC). The characters in London may have some prejudices to non-human characters, but the point of the campaign was to convince people, and I think it's entirely possible for use to influence Londoners enough for one to run as mayor. It could even add to lore, expand on lore, and more the game forward - as characters would be seen to grow/evolve with the times, as opposed to staying stagnant as a whole. That's not to mention that the players are the ones - in meta - actually voting and playing, so you want to aim at them as a business . . . you want them to spend money, spend time and effort, and actually care about the end result (as that end result will influence new stories and festivals throughout the year and give an opportunity card) . . . if people are clamouring for Bob the Rubbery, but you provide Joe the Everyman, you risk people going 'eh, I'm not that interested', as opposed to 'awesome! that's the guy I wanted!'
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Frederick Metzengerstein Posts: 69 1/2/2017	Yeah, I guess so. I see the argument about writing what people want. And I agree that Fallen London is much more progressive than the London of the time. On the other hand, part of the charm of Fallen London is its character as a recognisably turn-of-the-19C city. Electing an angry dream-snake or individual with the face of a squid mayor erodes this character. In my opinion, this is not a good thing, but that's just my view. John Moose wrote: While I'm afraid a rubbery would be somewhat ill-suited to a competition of popularity and persuasiveness, I see no reason a respectable cousin or a particularly charming devil couldn't win the race. If a cousin can rise to the social status of bishop and member of a secret London society including aristocracy and a consulting detective (representing the educated middle class), he can become mayor. I'm sort of torn on the devil, because of the War. Most people would suspect him of being a Manchurian candidate and the rest would vote against him out of pure patriotism and xenophobia, I imagine. Not to mention the religious angle. edited by Frederick Metzengerstein on 1/2/2017
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shylarah Posts: 171 12/28/2016	No, not the Disgraced one. The one that has /regained/ his honor through a fierce battle! that would be great. <3 -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Sandi Gummy Posts: 75 12/15/2016	PJ wrote: I doubt the Masters consider the Mayor a "position of power". More like the leader of a well-dressed urchin gang. A well dressed group of kids can do a lot of things! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Julia~Jokes Hello all I am new xD You can play chess or do things with me ^^
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Maxi Reigl Posts: 12 12/31/2016	That's right, Huffham would actually be a nice choice. But I still long for the Embassy to nominate somebody in response to the Bishop's campaign. (Although, if the clergy would also put up a candidate the streets of London probably wouln't survive that). I think they'd actually have a chance of winning, considering that one story with the Brass Ambassador, the party and the contract. -- Gotthard Redlich -http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Gotthard%20Redlich Happy to accept (dangerous) patrons and tell your orphans stories. Sallie Foy - http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sallie%20Foy
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/20/2017	Estelle Knoht wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: The potential downside of the Quiet Statesman is that he's almost a complete non-entity (almost being the key word). He's a regular of London's social scene, there's something shady about him, he has something going on with the Ambassador, and he might not have a soul. That's all we know. With Jenny and the Contrarian the election merely expanded and made more prominent already existing characters. With the Quiet Statesman the writers would almost be writing a new character. Also, because of said newness, the Quiet Statesman might start with a distinct disadvantage verses other, more established and hence popular characters. The Jovial Contrarian started the same way - a non-entity firmly embedded in Talk of the Town, and only made his second appearance in the Affluent Photographer's story, then the ball started rolling from there. That's true, but the Contrarian also had a prominent role on the Revolutionary Card and was given a Sunless Sea cameo. So the Contrarian had something of a presence outside of the parties, you know? Still, perhaps the Quiet Stateman's scenes in Talk of the Town are enough, as you're right, he isn't that different a character from the Contrarian: a familiar social presence accompanied by hints of mystery. In fact the Quiet Statesman has a second establishing moment that I completely forgot about. You can interact with him after the party breaks up and raise your making waves! For some reason I kept remembering this as meeting with "the Undersecretary," but the Undersecretary is really the Quiet Statesman. As the Quiet Statesman sees you off it's established that he is very influential. It's also stated that his official position is "convoluted and innocuous," signaling that he is "embedded in the very heart of government." Which really has "Great Game" written all over it. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Plynkes Posts: 631 1/2/2017	Frederick Metzengerstein wrote: It stretches credibility that at the turn of the 19C Londoners would elect an outcast and pariah (eg Rubbery Man) or enemy alien (eg devil) as Lord Mayor. Well, to be fair, turn-of-the-Nineteenth Century Londoners would not have elected anyone as mayor, as there wasn't a directly-elected Mayor of London until the 2000s. Elected Mayors just aren't an English thing. They are a very recent disease we seem to have caught from Cousin Jonathan across the pond (along with those preposterous elected "Crime Commissioners" we have to put up with now). Now the Lord Mayor that you mentioned, that is a totally different beast, something to do with the Livery Companies and all that unfathomable nonsense. Wasn't directly elected by the people in Victorian times, and still isn't today. Though, to their credit, while the Victorians may not have had a Rubbery or Fiendish Lord Mayor, they did have a Catholic and a Jewish one (no doubt many Victorians would have considered Rubberiness or Diabolism a distinct step upwards from that, but they had them all the same). -- "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 1/6/2017	Kukapetal wrote: And I'm not sure I like the idea of Sunless Sea characters being candidates, unless they are characters who have a strong presence in FL as well. Not all of us have played Sunless Sea edited by Kukapetal on 1/6/2017 I didn't really know much about Jenny until she ran for mayor, so I think it's an okay way to introduce characters. -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	But you COULD have learned about Jenny prior to the election. The info was all there in the game. If the character is from a different game that we don't play, however, the info is not there, and we have only the info we get via the character's campaign to convince us. Without knowing the person's character and history, how are we supposed to decide if they're being genuine or lying through their teeth? :P
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shylarah Posts: 171 1/5/2017	ShinWalks: The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner was actually proposed as someone who might /represent/ the Rubberies and such, given her general tolerance (and someone mentioned an odd love of a zee-monster? I don't know about that personally). To those that say an openly non-human Mayor is out, I do mostly agree, but there's nothing that prohibits someone who might represent their interests. And while historical Victorian London may have been xenophobic, it is now a fact of life that devils and rats and Clay Men and -- good heavens, is that a man with the face of a squid? Well, with all of this certain issues just don't matter so much anymore. London as a whole has needed to become at least slightly more open minded, or it wouldn't have survived at all. -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	Or we could stick with characters who are actually IN the game we're playing and which features the election. There are tons of characters in Fallen London who would make interesting candidates. Why toss them aside for characters from a different game who we'd need to read a newspaper bio for in order to know who they were? Then again...if we did do that, maybe Flesh-Stick could be a candidate! :P Flesh-Stick: WE DEMAND A NATIONAL HOLIDAY OF NUDITY! MAKE NO PANTS DAY A REALITY!
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The Master Posts: 804 1/6/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Or we could stick with characters who are actually IN the game we're playing and which features the election. There are tons of characters in Fallen London who would make interesting candidates. Why toss them aside for characters from a different game who we'd need to read a newspaper bio for in order to know who they were? Then again...if we did do that, maybe Flesh-Stick could be a candidate! :P Flesh-Stick: WE DEMAND A NATIONAL HOLIDAY OF NUDITY! MAKE NO PANTS DAY A REALITY! Jenny was usually shown as a prostitute and just that except in one ambition, you could barely learn anything important about her, where we really learnt about what she was running for was on the election, Bishop and Contrarian are more common, but if you aren't a person of some importance or if you don't deal with revolutionaries you couldn't really meet the Jovial Contrarian either, you could only learn about him in those situations, and remember that new players vote as well, it's not just the veterans. Still, I think it could be possible to make NPC's from SS run as mayors as long as Failbetter gave enough information about them before they made you vote(though they don't appear in London very often they are still interesting characters and with proper introductions I don't see many problems coming up, after all, alot of people knew nothing about the candidates on the first election but they still got the basic idea of what they were going to do). -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	The Master wrote: and remember that new players vote as well, it's not just the veterans. Of course they vote, and I'm sure those who cared about the election educated themselves about the candidates as best they could. But it doesn't automatically follow that, since new people might be less informed about the candidates, everyone who plays the game should be deliberately hobbled. And I say this as someone who didn't really care about the election, had no idea who one of the candidates was, and picked a candidate for a silly reason. Just because those were my circumstances and that was how I played the game doesn't mean it should be forced on everyone else via the mechanics.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/6/2017	PSGarak wrote: Like it or not, the category of "non-human" still encompasses a range of "more human-ish" to "less human-ish." Our Rubbery brethren are dear to my heart, but they still get stoned on the streets on occasion. Tomb-Colonists and Devils can generally mingle without as much trouble. (Part of that may be that Rubbery folk don't fight back as well as the other two.) And even Devils will occasionally get tossed into the Stolen River by a suitably pious mob. My problem with a Devil running for Mayor is that all the Devils are foreigners. They're not citizens of London, nor are they subjects of Her Enduring Majesty. Most are the formal and informal representatives of the Republic of Hell. The Brass Ambassador or one of his associates running for Mayor of London would be like the Soviet Ambassador running for Mayor of 20th century New York or President of the United States. The Soviets couldn't do that sort of thing for a whole host of reasons. Instead they gave clandestine and not so clandestine support to the US Communist party, for all the good it did them. I think a similar situation would exist with the Brass Embassy if it wanted to get more directly involved in London politics. The Devils would back a human candidate who is appropriately close to Hell, perhaps a member of the 11 percent. A problem arises however in that I find it difficult to think of a character who could be such a candidate... A lot of the more human associates of the Brass Embassy, such as the Infernal Sommelier, are just Devils thinly and obviously disguised as humans. edited by Anne Auclair on 1/6/2017 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	Exactly. And the same goes for Rubbery Men too. They're foreigners who come to London on business. It wouldn't make sense to elect one of them mayor.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 1/6/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Of course they vote, and I'm sure those who cared about the election educated themselves about the candidates as best they could. But it doesn't automatically follow that, since new people might be less informed about the candidates, everyone who plays the game should be deliberately hobbled. And I say this as someone who didn't really care about the election, had no idea who one of the candidates was, and picked a candidate for a silly reason. Just because those were my circumstances and that was how I played the game doesn't mean it should be forced on everyone else via the mechanics. I think that regardless of whether the candidates are already-established FL characters or not, the vast majority of their story that might be useful to for the election will only appear once they are election candidates, so I don't think introducing a new character is a bad thing. I don't think having an unknown candidate=being hobbled, because playing through the election will give you plenty of time to learn who they are. That's how I learned about last year's candidates, and it was fun! (although, as noted in my post above, I didn't learn that much about Jenny during the election...) -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/6/2017	Well, I definitely wouldn't find it fun to have a candidate who the Sunless Sea players can discuss and debate about at length while I have to make do with a newspaper blurb. I'm already left mystified about what the heck is going on in any Exceptional stories that use elements from Sunless Sea. I'd be grateful if it didn't get dragged into the election too.
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Pumpkinhead Posts: 516 1/7/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Well, I definitely wouldn't find it fun to have a candidate who the Sunless Sea players can discuss and debate about at length while I have to make do with a newspaper blurb. I'm already left mystified about what the heck is going on in any Exceptional stories that use elements from Sunless Sea. I'd be grateful if it didn't get dragged into the election too. That is a very good point, although it's still not dealbreaking for me. An interesting character is still an interesting character, even if everyone else knows more about them than I do. -- McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!) Amanda Albright is a spoiler now, like she always wanted.
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The Master Posts: 804 1/7/2017	Kukapetal wrote: Well, I definitely wouldn't find it fun to have a candidate who the Sunless Sea players can discuss and debate about at length while I have to make do with a newspaper blurb. I'm already left mystified about what the heck is going on in any Exceptional stories that use elements from Sunless Sea. I'd be grateful if it didn't get dragged into the election too. But if enough information was given about them I don't see why that would be a problem, they could even make some stories about them before the election, some people knew more about the characters from the previous election anyways, Jenny was never important except in one specific ambition, all information we got about her were some small lines of text telling us what her profession was, -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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The Master Posts: 804 1/5/2017	shylarah wrote: ShinWalks: The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner was actually proposed as someone who might /represent/ the Rubberies and such, given her general tolerance (and someone mentioned an odd love of a zee-monster? I don't know about that personally). To those that say an openly non-human Mayor is out, I do mostly agree, but there's nothing that prohibits someone who might represent their interests. And while historical Victorian London may have been xenophobic, it is now a fact of life that devils and rats and Clay Men and -- good heavens, is that a man with the face of a squid? Well, with all of this certain issues just don't matter so much anymore. London as a whole has needed to become at least slightly more open minded, or it wouldn't have survived at all. The Campaigner seems to love animals in general, in Sunless Sea she will pay more money than a live specimen is worth so that he/she/it can free the creature. Also, any officer that can be your viceroy in SS could be a mayor, all three of them clearly have some political knowledge to run as a major. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Ragnar Degenhand Posts: 197 12/31/2016	Or we could have the Tiger-Keeper, of course... -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Ragnar%20Degenhand
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shylarah Posts: 171 1/8/2017	The Bishop would probably be less likely to punch Mr. Slowcake and more likely to put him in a chokehold. Wrestling, you know. ^.^ Also who would like to have the player be Mayor? Perhaps as the Devils' patsy? Anyone? <3 -- Lady of Cold Steel, Lady of the Flit, Lady Alyssana Grey. A formidable woman, hard to read and slow to trust. Darkness lurks inside her. Alts: (please direct all inquiries to Alys & say who they're for) -Nikki, the Playful Daredevil, leading the constables on merry chases across London at every available opportunity. It's not a good robbery if you didn't get chased~ -Shylarah, waifish, wide-eyed, painfully foreign, entirely untamed. Her search for a way home now leads her to Parabola. There's something about her... -Dr. Maxwell Thomas, a kindhearted physician who can't stand to see suffering. Moral to a fault, even to his own detriment. Unlucky in love. I would rather be taken for a fool than deny aid where it is needed. -Angie, the Cheeky Sharpshooter. Got her start with the Regiment and proudly operated their cannon for years. Rowdy, rough, and among the best shots in London.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 1/20/2017	Mr. Slowcake is in a lot of ways perfect for a Brass Embassy backed candidate, but just in case his being a fictional person is too great an obstacle, I've found another character who could serve as a Devil's proxy: The Quiet Statesman. The Quiet Statesman has some sort of relationship with the Brass Embassy, is possibly leading a double life, has some sort of rivalry with the Ambassador, and might very well be a member of the 11%. When you give an Infernal Contract to the Flighty Devilless at the party, the following happens: She doesn't say why it's important. You know the name on it doesn't belong to anyone at the party. Is someone using a false identity? Or does the contract belong to an acquaintance of someone here? You observe closely. Later, you see the Ambassador speaking with a Quiet Statesman. He is pale, his lips pinched. The Ambassador has the contract rolled casually in one hand, and occasionally uses it to tap him on the shoulder in a friendly fashion. Intriguing! I would certainly like to know more about him. The potential downside of the Quiet Statesman is that he's almost a complete non-entity (almost being the key word). He's a regular of London's social scene, there's something shady about him, he has something going on with the Ambassador, and he might not have a soul. That's all we know. With Jenny and the Contrarian the election merely expanded and made more prominent already existing characters. With the Quiet Statesman the writers would almost be writing a new character. Also, because of said newness, the Quiet Statesman might start with a distinct disadvantage verses other, more established and hence popular characters. But he has the advantage of not being fictional in-universe and so potentially not as complicated to write. Instead of fleshing out an elaborate conspiracy, the writers would merely need to flesh out the Quiet Statesman. The Statesman could also easily become the candidate of the same groups that would support Slowcake: Society, the Devils, and the Great Game. His name (the Quiet Statesman!) and regular presence at parties shows he's a fixture of Society. The Infernal Contract and his reaction to it indicates that he has some sort of hidden history with the Devils. His rivalry with the Ambassador and potential double identity hints at involvement in the Great Game. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Krysin Posts: 34 1/8/2017	Defiantly the Bishop again... And of course the Manager of the Royal Bethlehem Hotel would make a whimsical addition to the candidates. -- I am Krysin.
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Silverias Posts: 123 12/15/2016	I vote the last constable or the ambitious barrister. I'd also accept the Alarming Scholar -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Silverias Stop by and say hello, I'm a correspondent if you need someone to teach your kids.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 1/2/2017	Frederick Metzengerstein wrote: Yeah, I guess so. I see the argument about writing what people want. And I agree that Fallen London is much more progressive than the London of the time. On the other hand, part of the charm of Fallen London is its character as a recognisably turn-of-the-19C city. Electing an angry dream-snake or individual with the face of a squid mayor erodes this character. In my opinion, this is not a good thing, but that's just my view. That's a fair point, to be honest . . . I guess it comes down to what makes Fallen London 'London'. It might be why people seem so divided on issues like whether to have a non-human character, or which factions/humans to run for mayor, and so forth . . . like, for myself, the fascination and charm of the setting comes from the other-worldly aspects and almost-supernatural elements. The Masters became my favourite group, while - aside from one or two people - most of my favourite characters are Tomb Colonists or 'other' in some way . . . so electing a dream-snaked or a squid would feel 'believable' to me and be something I would enjoy. That being said, I think it's clear other people prefer the Victorian elements, ranging from the sort of gritty realism to the day-to-day lives of people trying to get by in a city so cutthroat and on the verge of great changes/revolutions . . . I'm not sure FBG could appease both or all sides with a winner, but a solution could be to have a wide-variety in terms of candidates. Example, a Human, a Non-Human, and something/someone in-between (like a Tomb Colonist) could be a way to get everyone invested and everyone interested . . . Last year, I think around half of London voted for Jenny? It was a total landslide, possible for a whole bunch of reasons, so it could be that a more 'equal' playing field would get an actual sense of competition and up the suspense, as well as giving everyone a reason to invest (as there'd be one candidate for every sort of player) . . . just so long as no one character was more/less prominent than the others. Also . . . I guess there's the possibility for a 'behind-the-scenes' aspect? What I mean by that is say that we agree a Rubbery wouldn't be the best mayor, due to language barriers at the very least . . . we could have someone pulling the strings, or a conspiracy afoot, or even discover new means for the Rubberies to communicate or untapped levels of intelligence otherwise presumed missing . . . someone like a Rubbery or Fluke or so forth could seem nonsensical at a glance, but have actual means to work, and - best of all - these means could be explored at length in a festive story or the Zee Festival (it'd definitely be a story I'd absolutely be interested in, anyway, but not sure about anyone else, lol). Anyway, I'm rambling so: Maybe a more diverse trio of candidates, each one from a different species/group?
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suinicide Posts: 2409 1/2/2017	We could have the candidates have different difficulty levels, though I'm not sure how popular that'd be. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 12/31/2016	Oh yeah, Flint. I never played that... You know, I'm surprised Mr. Huffman hasn't gotten more attention as a potential candidate. Men of the press seeking and entering high office was a regular feature of the 19th and early 20th centuries. There was Horace Greeley, William Randolph Hearst, James M. Cox, and Lord Northcliffe, among others. Mr. Huffman is familiar and well liked, he has a lot of connections and knows a lot of secrets, and he's been up to now a supporting character. edited by Anne Auclair on 12/31/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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aegisaglow Posts: 202 12/15/2016	Psyche Labyrinth wrote: Oh my goodness, The Manager of the Royal Beth? I would vote for him in a heartbeat! The Manager of the Royal Beth is the only person who could make me consider voting strategically. He's already showed up in my hand unwanted too many times, I don't need a Merry Gentleman Mayoral Influence. -- Mx. Aglow. Glazier, hedonist, devil-teaser, Paramount Presence. Pursuing their Heart's Desire. Ms. Lilian Leith. A lady of proper standing, which seems like an increasingly ludicrous thing to give a rat's ___ about. Known (to some) for her Light Fingers.
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Jamilah S. Wolf Posts: 122 12/15/2016	Feducci would be interesting, and the Cheery Man would be a sure-fire candidate to plunge London into the shadows. Maybe open up some new routes. Perhaps the Quiet Deviless would be a viable candidate, since many Londoners are missing souls (shhh!), and she seems well liked by some players in general. -- Jamilah, a most fascinating Lady of the Neath who finds herself mingling with Society and aligning with Criminals. This Licentiate Extraordinaire would love to align with the Masters, given the chance. A Shattering Force. Huarwar Ceiswyr, a Welshman and detective lured to the Neath to Seek. The toll it has taken does not hide itself, nor does he bother to. On hiatus. Open to all actions, delicious friends. Messages required prior to harmful ones. PM for hints Enigmatic. She wishes for nothing more than to be close to the Masters, for who else can unlock the Mysteries of the Neath?
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Alysian Posts: 57 12/24/2016	It would seem virtually every character has been name-checked at this point, but my 2 cents would go towards the Last Constable, Feducci or a Clay Man, particularly Lyme, although any Clay candidate would be interesting. Not to say there aren't plenty of other excellent choices, that's just what stood out to me. -- Alysian, gone North, grieved, gone. Alybye, A Midnighter available for children's parties. No appointment necessary.
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 12/24/2016	Alysian wrote: It would seem virtually every character has been name-checked at this point, but my 2 cents would go towards the Last Constable, Feducci or a Clay Man, particularly Lyme, although any Clay candidate would be interesting. Not to say there aren't plenty of other excellent choices, that's just what stood out to me. So far as Clay Men go, I'd rather see Soap run for Mayor; he has more knowledge of the seamy underbelly of the City. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Alysian Posts: 57 12/24/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Why would Londoners vote for a Clay Man? I still don't get that...they're foreign and inhuman and the ones with standout personalities tend to have something fundamentally wrong with them. I don't know I would necessarily vote for one, I can just see a lot of interesting ways it could go. Certainly the draw of voting for the outsider is stronger for some people, for better or worse. And a Clay Man would definitely be that. -- Alysian, gone North, grieved, gone. Alybye, A Midnighter available for children's parties. No appointment necessary.
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Aodyssey Posts: 43 12/24/2016	Throwing my hat in the ring for Your Aunt or, the ever popular choices, The Last Constable. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Aoditor - a frequently moral upholder of standards, possessing mysterious and indistinct qualities; countenance; loyalties. Promoted from Pawn to Knight piece of the Great Game. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Char_name - a lady from across the Zee, advocate of Khaganian supremacy. Trying to be cruel. Under the generous auspices of the ever estimable Sam Stephens, an Extraordinary Mind.
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The Master Posts: 804 12/24/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Why would Londoners vote for a Clay Man? I still don't get that...they're foreign and inhuman and the ones with standout personalities tend to have something fundamentally wrong with them. It doesn't seem like the unfinished clay men are wrong in the mind, it just seems like they didn't really get to learn much other than "Our leader is a slaver" when they were created, Soap, for example seems pretty smart(though we don't see much of him). -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Mr. Hamilton Posts: 80 8/7/2016	I would suggest -The Last Constable -The Clay Coalman -Mr. Hamilton -- I am open to any calling cards and most other social events. My alt: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/George~Albany My alt's appearance: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?Page=8#post164336 My main profile: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mr%20Hamilton My main profile's appearance: [urlhttp://community.failbettergames.com/topic9363-your-characters-appearances.aspx?Page=6#post164298
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Vel Farre Posts: 27 8/6/2016	I'd say the Topsy King but he would really sweep it up easily..... so let's get something going with The Last Constable. Would be interesting to see her getting official power. She might have a lot of support on the forums, but I don't think it will be the easy rout of pretty much EVERYONE the king would have. Second Choice - Starveling Cat, duh. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vel~Farre If you need A Shattering Force to train you, just send a message saying so. Will likely accept any social action you need if not busy, even occasionaly loitering. Just warn me if it is a harmful one.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/5/2016	Lady Sapho Byron wrote: Early on, it was apparent (as revealed by ganoidyn’s wonderful polling) that Jenny would be the first Neathy Mayor of London. That the race was never close, was never really in any doubt, was, to me, the only blemish on the event. As Anne Auclair has pointed out elsewhere in this thread, should the Topsy King be up for election next year, his victory would be even more sweeping than Jenny’s, robbing the election of any sense of suspense. For those of us entertained by the horserace (such as myself), Tristram would be a dull candidate indeed. I never said that. I only said that if he is indeed a candidate he should be run against someone as equally popular as himself, such as His Amused Lordship. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/4/2016	Infinity Simulacrum wrote: I like the concept of having the Bishop of St. Fiacre's as major but I'm not sure that that's balanced seeing as most players who're part of the Dilmun club are sided against him and y'know, ehm cough snuffer cough. But I do definetly think that the Church should hold a stake, so I'd like to volunteer the Loquacious Vicar and Father Norton. The thing about campaigns is that they're made up of more then just the candidate. Jenny's campaign had some small time Mahogany Hall characters in it and the Jovial Contrarian had the Manager and February. So characters who don't end up as the actual candidates, but who players like and who are better suited to a supporting role, could still make an appearance. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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