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Diptych
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8/1/2016
July has passed behind the mirror and August has taken its rightful seat, and here is this week's thread for short questions!

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Barse
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8/5/2016
If I wanted to Advance a certain Liberation as quickly and effectively as possible, including the item grinds, which conversion should I stick to?

Many thanks in advance.

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TheThirdPolice
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8/7/2016
That is the correct order of operations, and you should never lose notability if your last action was raising another point. Not sure what is going wrong, I'm afraid.

EDIT: I wrote in response to Orlon. I don't think @Anne Auclair is correct.
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PJ
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8/7/2016
The volcano image is definitely not retired completely. It's the current image for Dramatic Tension.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/7/2016
It certainly used to. Not sure why or when it changed since I don't have that Home Comfort, but I do remember it having that image. Assuming it was deliberate I would think that they changed it because the Mountain has a more significant connection to the Elder Continent than a volcano does.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/7/2016
If the text says it ought to be a volcano then you should send an email to support. It's been so long since I've seen it that I really can't remember how the tapestry is described beyond the item description.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/7/2016
Most likely, yes.

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Teaspoon
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8/7/2016
University is an excruciating grind and takes forever.

There's no way to speed up Term Passing, is there?

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RageBoxAlice
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8/8/2016
Not sure if this is the place to ask about Fate-locked content, but I'm at the Iron Republic and I've reached Day CENSORED. There are two option, one normal and one Fate-locked, and both simply say "Censored". Can someone tell me what the difference is?
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menaulon
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8/7/2016
The picture is the same as Primeval Hint, Mystery of the Elder Continent, etc. It is on my profile.

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Grenem
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8/7/2016
Anne Auclair wrote:
menaulon wrote:
The picture is the same as Primeval Hint, Mystery of the Elder Continent, etc. It is on my profile.

I distinctly remember it being a volcano. When did it change?

I don't know, but i remember the others listed being the same at one point, so... I recognize the image, and don't have any of that item, never had any of that item. So i can't say when it changed, but i can verify that the others also looked like that, once.

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Grenem
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8/7/2016
Anne Auclair wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
menaulon wrote:
The picture is the same as Primeval Hint, Mystery of the Elder Continent, etc. It is on my profile.

I distinctly remember it being a volcano. When did it change?

I don't know, but i remember the others listed being the same at one point, so... I recognize the image, and don't have any of that item, never had any of that item. So i can't say when it changed, but i can verify that the others also looked like that, once.

I assumed it was a bug and sent a bug report. I can't imagine why they would get rid of the very distinctive volcano and replace it with an image that three other items already share.

Because they shared the previous image, too! At the very least, I would testify before the seven choirs, the court, or the seven circles of hell, that Mysteries of the elder continent once held that image. Unless it got an obsolete hand-me-down, which is regrettably not something failbetter does for items much, if at all; it's always shared the image, and if you saw otherwise, that's due to a glitch.

Still, feel free to send in that bug report, but the image is old, and the same as the old one as well.

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Grenem
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8/7/2016
Anne Auclair wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
menaulon wrote:
The picture is the same as Primeval Hint, Mystery of the Elder Continent, etc. It is on my profile.

I distinctly remember it being a volcano. When did it change?

I don't know, but i remember the others listed being the same at one point, so... I recognize the image, and don't have any of that item, never had any of that item. So i can't say when it changed, but i can verify that the others also looked like that, once.

I assumed it was a bug and sent a bug report. I can't imagine why they would get rid of the very distinctive volcano and replace it with an image that three other items already share.

Because they shared the previous image, too! At the very least, I would testify before the seven choirs, the court, or the seven circles of hell, that Mysteries of the elder continent once held that image. Unless it got an obsolete hand-me-down, which is regrettably not something failbetter does for items much, if at all; it's always shared the image, and if you saw otherwise, that's due to a glitch.

Still, feel free to send in that bug report, but the image is old, and the same as the old one as well.

Pardon?

The volcano image was once the image for mysteries of the elder continent and primeval hint. Unless it's an obscure throwback image that they left in specifically for that item[1] those three have always shared an image, and you just had a bug where it looked like they didn't, not the other way around.[2] I suppose that my last post wasn't entirely clear- in short- that is the old image for everything that has the new mountain image now, in the same way that all X items got their images changed. You'll never see the rock with a bow mushroom images anywhere in the neath, for instance. all items with X image change as one. [look on the old wiki if you need proof of the volcano being the old image, or for the rock with a bow mushrooms for touching love stories.]

[1] which i do not believe is something they would do, as otherwise why would there be so many duplicates in the first place, they update the art often enough

[2]assuming you actually saw it in-game and aren't just looking at the wiki. in the latter case, it's just that the wiki's out of date on this matter.
edited by Grenem on 8/7/2016

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Grenem
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8/7/2016
Anne Auclair wrote:

~snip~

I'm not talking about those three, I'm talking about the Elder Continent Tapestry. I remember seeing it on other players mantles and the image being a volcano. Now it's not...

Yes, it was a volcano- the same as the rest. now it's a mountain- the same as the rest. They have always shared an image!


edited by Grenem on 8/7/2016

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Orlon Von Spandex
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8/7/2016
Created account for this: Several times now, I have gotten an extra point of Notability just before the deadline, leaving my Making Waves equal to Notability. And then the week rolls over and my Notability drops. I thought the order of operations was to reduce Notability if MW was not high enough, then cut MW in half. But at least four times I've lost a Notability on the week when I thought I had enough MW to do the job.

Can anyone confirm or deny? Any other clues what I'm doing wrong? Thank you very much.
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Sara Hysaro
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8/4/2016
Moods are back.

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Barse
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8/5/2016
Barselaar wrote:
If I wanted to Advance a certain Liberation as quickly and effectively as possible, including the item grinds, which conversion should I stick to?

Many thanks in advance.

Had a free moment, did some research + math. Thought I should answer my own question rather than deleting, in case others are interested. I think the best way would be UB at Ladybones Road for Beeswax and doing the conversion that needs 100 for 1CP of AtLoN and no Connected: Revs loss. I might be wrong, though!

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Wojciech
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8/5/2016
You're talking about the Liberation quality here... If I raise it high enough does anything actually happen, or is it still WIP?

Second question - is there a chance to meet someone besides F. from the Calendar Council? Name suggests, that there should be twelve of them.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/5/2016
The Liberation of Night quality does nothing at this time.

Depending on your ambition you might meet April, and you can also meet July in the Exceptional Story Lost in Reflections. December is also present in some Destinies.

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Grenem
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8/6/2016
Teaspoon wrote:
What qualities are reset by putting to Zee?

Dramatic tension!
Casing
running battle
Fascinating
Inspired
Seeking
Investigating
The hunt is on
Dissappearing?
Intimidating?
Term Passing (Why?)
Time Passing in the Southern Archipelago
Knife-and-candle form
[and thereby baroque savage and elusive.]

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Gonen
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8/2/2016
What is the status of Dandelion? Alexis' project? Is it out? Has a date?

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xKiv
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8/2/2016
Sinnouk wrote:
What's the best way to earn echoes by using Mourning Candles? Is there a profitable option that uses them somewhere? Thank you~


I *think*, if you have tons of them, upconverting can be worth around 2 echo/action, with some assumptions about the rare successes. Probably not worth it though, especially if you don't like libation of the night.

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sosisqua
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8/1/2016
I'm already a POSI, with stats around 140-160 and only recently i've found out about Orphanage/Salon and 2.5-3.5 tier professions. What are other uneven ways/stories/opportunities that some people could know about only after they dig through forums, wikis and IRC or, generally, miss out?

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suinicide
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8/1/2016
You regain them when you leave.

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Parelle
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8/2/2016
Neonir wrote:
absimiliard wrote:
The options in the Third Coil pay in THIO and either Whispered Secrets or Rostygold. Don't help someone escape though, whispered secrets aren't worth helping the Snakes.


Yes, see, this is what I was somewhat asking about, the options in the third coil no longer seem to be avaliable since I reached the fourth coil. I was asking if there is a way to get access to these, or options like tham, again.


No, once you choose someone to escape that part of the 3rd Coil is closed. Annoying, I know!

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suinicide
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8/2/2016
If you also have the rest of the stuff, going through the fidgeting writer grind. Otherwise, no.

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TheThirdPolice
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8/2/2016
Probably not worth it though, especially if you don't like libation of the night.


But who would object to the libation of night, i.e. a drink at the pub?

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Neonir
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8/1/2016
Having reached the fourth coil, is there any method of attaining THIO that also gives loot? I know there existed one for a time earlier in the labyrinth, but it appears to have been temporary.

Is there any way to get it back, or any other method of gaining the quality while also gaining goods?

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Teaspoon
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8/6/2016
Wow, that's a long list.

I'll have to stay long enough to settle my present affairs, at least.

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PJ
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8/5/2016
The gentleman on Mutton Island can convert Extraordinary Implications up to Uncanny Incunabula, but I was actually thinking of the implications you gain at the end of the carousel, and the lesser Mysteries items you get along the way. I haven't done the math, but it seems like a likely spot to grind Mysteries.

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Sara Hysaro
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8/7/2016
You definitely should not need double your Notability in Making Waves to maintain it. If it isn't working this way be sure to send in a support ticket to support@failbettergames.com

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Wicked Wonderland
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8/8/2016
...I don't know why it switched accounts on me, but that's a failed registration of mine above. >.>

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