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Destroying the papyrus got me
[spoiler]a Searing Enigma and 60 Relics of the Second City.[/spoiler]
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Optimatum
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Gilphon wrote:
Indeed. I've never assumed the Calendar Council was a particularly cohesive group; everything seems to point to each of them having their cell of supporters, we plenty of disagreements about each other's priorities and methods happening.
With that in mind, it wouldn't be terribly surprising if they weren't unanimously on board with the Liberation. Certainly nothing in Lost in Reflections gave me the impression July was going for LoN.
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The Calendar Council has assassinated members before if their ideologies were conflicting with the rest of the Council. In regard to the spoiler:
[spoiler]There was also a starry sky on one of the ceilings and I highly doubt they want that to remain the case. Just because they have the details of the Dawn Machine doesn't mean they're interested in it.[/spoiler]
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Pnakotic
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Optimatum wrote:
I'd be very surprised if the Contrarian was on the Calendar Council, given his whole deal of NOT wanting the Liberation to occur.
I think it goes to show that the Council is not single-minded by any means.
[spoiler]I'm also intrigued by the description of machinery shown in Summer room as well; is it the details of a device meant to bring darkness, or something different altogether? "Wheels of Fire" make me think of an entirely different sort of device, and one that would certainly turn the Order of things on its head in different ways...[/spoiler]
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Anne Auclair
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Perhaps...[spoiler]They are reverse engineering the Dawn Machine?[/spoiler]
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Gilphon
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I would rather say that some members of the council have assassinated other members that they disagree with. And we did, after all, just watch February try to hijack the Contrarian's mayoral campaign because he was insufficiently LoN, which speaks to the same sort of M.O.- assassinating him in the middle the campaign would've hardly served her purpose, after all.
[spoiler] And why shouldn't some also want the sky to remain starry? December's book sounds like the writer knows the stars personally, after all. Indeed, I'd call that room additional evidence that they're not 100% in favour of the Liberation.[/spoiler]
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Anne Auclair
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I still contend that the Contrarian's second week was a case of teeth-clinched teamwork and not a hostile takeover. He wanted to win and so he brought in February, who is all about winning. But to balance the books for such an uncharacteristically extreme act, he donated money to the Bishop and Jenny.
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Pnakotic
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Professor Strix wrote:
Not much to say about the notes, but the member who is expert in artillery is most certainly April, she appears in the Bag a Legend! ambition. His Amused Lordship strikes me more like someone who goes to parties, rather than someone who plans them, but who knows.
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It's also worth noting that December is a man [spoiler]As per the September 21st, 1911 future vision, so that means if the books are in order and the astronomer is December, then madame Shoshanna is ruled out.
Though if they aren't in order, then December could be the "genial chap from the University", and represented by the book on "Classes of persuasion", which would pretty well blow my theory for both months. Though who would that genial chap be? The Provost of Summerset?
...though of course, the Illuminated Gentleman could also be appearing as the Provost of Summerset, and being a regular of the revels, might be privy to the love stories that are mentioned in the Spring room... [/spoiler]
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Pnakotic
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Anne Auclair wrote:
I still contend that the Contrarian's second week was a case of teeth-clinched teamwork and not a hostile takeover. He wanted to win and so he brought in February, who is all about winning. But to balance the books for such an uncharacteristically extreme act, he donated money to the Bishop and Jenny.
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With locked doors keeping February away from The Contrarian and his loyalists, it didn't sound like there was any teamwork going on, at all.
[spoiler]Though considering February chose to involve herself in the campaign, and the book in the Summer room strongly suggest the Contrarian is a member of the Council, it seems more and more likely that the Manager of the Royal Bethlehem is also a member of the Council, probably the one represented by the book on dreams in the Autumn room.[/spoiler]
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Curious Foreigner
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Pnakotic, as far as I know, December's gender was never referred to, not even in the event in your spoiler.
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Anne Auclair
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Pnakotic wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
I still contend that the Contrarian's second week was a case of teeth-clinched teamwork and not a hostile takeover. He wanted to win and so he brought in February, who is all about winning. But to balance the books for such an uncharacteristically extreme act, he donated money to the Bishop and Jenny.
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With locked doors keeping February away from The Contrarian and his loyalists, it didn't sound like there was any teamwork going on, at all.
If Feb were really the one who was calling the shots then there wouldn't have been any locked doors in the first place. The Contrarian appointed her campaign manager and then told her and her goons to stay downstairs.
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Jolanda Swan
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Correct. After all, the whole election storyline makes more sense if the Contrarian is someone of great importance inside the Council. If he was nobody would they accomodate him as far as they did, when they killed one of their very own at some point?
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Angus Turner
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We now know a little more about the Contrarian's mysterious donor:
[spoiler]January's book is this one, indicating that January prefers to act through persuasion and demagoguery, so supporting his comrade's political campaign was right up his alley.
I still don't know what to make of the displays. One stands for anarchy, one for authoritarianism, and one for the status quo. Why? Is there any relation between the displays and the books in their sections?[/spoiler]
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suinicide
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Pnakotic wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
I still contend that the Contrarian's second week was a case of teeth-clinched teamwork and not a hostile takeover. He wanted to win and so he brought in February, who is all about winning. But to balance the books for such an uncharacteristically extreme act, he donated money to the Bishop and Jenny.
edited by Anne Auclair on 7/29/2016
With locked doors keeping February away from The Contrarian and his loyalists, it didn't sound like there was any teamwork going on, at all.
If Feb were really the one who was calling the shots then there wouldn't have been any locked doors in the first place. The Contrarian appointed her campaign manager and then told her and her goons to stay downstairs.
But she would have had to act with restraint then. The whole public eye was on the contrarian, and if she touched him she would have been hunted down. Not good for the revolution. Plus when the contrarian lost he sounded happy that he wouldn't be forced to serve the liberation of night, hardly the tone of someone who appointed february their campaign manager. Finally, she said she was there to "remind him of his loyalty" or something. That is just about the shadiest phrase ever.
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BlabberingMat
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I destroyed the papyrus and got
[spoiler] 1 Searing Enigma.[/spoiler]
if anyone is wondering about that.
EDIT: I now see that others already reported this. My bad!
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SarahTheEntwife
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Still only in the second room, but I'm enjoying this! Fascinating lore here.
I like the qualities challenges, and the opportunity to go "why yes, I will sit in this room and grind map scraps for a while, thank you very much" ;-)
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Mordaine Barimen
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Anne Auclair wrote:
I still contend that the Contrarian's second week was a case of teeth-clinched teamwork and not a hostile takeover. He wanted to win and so he brought in February, who is all about winning. But to balance the books for such an uncharacteristically extreme act, he donated money to the Bishop and Jenny.
It's interesting to see how far you'll bend to attribute malevolence to Sinning Jenny and control and kindness to the Contrarian...
But back to the story, I fear that, much like the author's other ES, things were interesting and a few novel mechanical things along the way, only to lead to a rather rushed and disappointing ending.
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PJ
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This is all well and good, but why was the papyrus in the possession of the Calendar Council?
And perhaps more importantly, how close are they to completing the Device? The light in Ladybones Road briefly went out. Was that a malfunction, or a test?
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suinicide
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And what was with the mini dawn machine? Is that to test if they can extinguish it? To study how it worked? Is that thing sentient as well?
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suinicide
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PJ wrote:
This is all well and good, but why was the papyrus in the possession of the Calendar Council?
Ooo, maybe they were planning on blackmailing the duchess with it or something. Force her to help them.
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Fadewalker
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For December, the gender has been mentioned: in the Gloom Destiny as a "he", in the Curator Destiny as a "he", and in the Revelation Destiny as "the one". I suspect December to be the man of the astronomy book but I cannot be sure. I only have some thin evidences: [spoiler]the chronological order of books, and December said "perhaps we'll be the only free beings in the cosmos" as if he knows much about other beings in this cosmos.
The book of astronomy seems very old and brittle, even more fragile than the papyrus from the Second City: even the papyrus survives after you took it from the library. The author of the astronomy book should be someone really really old, a citizen from the previous city, or even older. If he has made appearance before, he can be the Capering Relicker, the Manager of Royal Beth, or someone even older. He knows the stars personally. I suspect him to be the one mentioned by the boatman in "Family Ties: A Morbid Journal", if you know what I mean. But can such a man be easily killed by assassin in a certain destiny? That is mysterious.
For the text from the Mendacious Librarian, I think the "genial chap from the University" should be the "magnanimous" one of "the radical textbook", that is, January by chronological order. If it is true, consider the cheque appeared previously in the election, January might be an affluent academic male agitator, who usually plays a nice guy. I can't recall anyone fitted in. Dr Orthos is a wealthy academic but not very nice.
"Another of their group" who "replaced it with system based around seasons" can be the man of "a manual of pleasure" the activities are indexed by season in this book and in text there is "is there some connection between the book and this library?". Beneath the manual of pleasure, there is something like an obsessive compulsive disorder of orders and plans. A compulsive hedonist? Can't recall anyone.
A note for the woman with "singed eyebrows": the fired or singed eyebrows in FL gametext before are usually related to something dangerous, i.e., the Correspondence. You can type "site:fallenlondon.wikia.com eyebrows" in google to have a look. But this connection is weak, anyone can have eyebrows singed for any reasons. And for the "strange birds", are they raven pets of July's?[/spoiler]
BTW, I don't think the Contrarian deliberately brought February to the frontstage of campaign. I'm afraid that it would not be ruthless but a little witless of him if he did that. It sounds as if he turns to a butcher when he needs a physician.
(EDIT: hide the second spoiler of text from the Mendacious Librarian)
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