Dudebro Pyro
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7/27/2016
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I'm aiming for two goats right now, and decided to give the Fidgeting Writer a try (since it seems to be the most profitable repeatable grind).
I'm using this spreadsheet as a reference: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AlbwjlynOB13dDQtelhZdm9LQlpJQ1JXa0FnMlFPamc
However, the EPA in it assumes that you'll take a certain amount of actions to get all the items required for the grind. I assume not all the items are best acquired through Unfinished Business grinding and upconverting - if that's correct, which items have different optimal grinds and what are those grinds?
Also, if anyone has done the math for the amount of items required for a goat, that'd be really helpful, otherwise I can use the spreadsheet to calculate it myself.
edited by Dudebro Pyro on 7/27/2016
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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7/27/2016
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Dudebro Pyro, yeah, it's not _vastly_ better as it was initially thought to be, but if you'd doing long-term grinds you might like it as a change of pace, or if you need specific items it may be useful.
Glad you found the spreadsheet helpful!
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Teaspoon
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7/28/2016
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Fidgeting Writer does, however, seem a terrific grind for a non-POSI Seeker. It's Seeking in miniature - throw resources at a problems! Pray! Enjoy the delicious text!
I'm going to make a point of grinding out at least seven Enigmas this way, just because.
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squiggle
Posts: 44
7/28/2016
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I did a lot of grinding in Polythreme following this guide.
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic1100-making-money-in-polythreme.aspx
Built up a lot of Stolen Kisses and Romantic Notions which accidentally were very useful writing lots of stories for The Election.
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Kaijyuu
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7/29/2016
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The variance is a bit higher than some might like. You'd expect ~7.5 souls, and got 3; that's roughly 2 standard deviations away from normal, by my very quick and probably inaccurate estimate. Unusual, but far from unheard of.
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MrBurnside
Posts: 188
7/27/2016
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Almost everything you're looking for can be found here [edit: created by An_Ocelot sorry]:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GETsQCzkO8Y33oYaynVaTo7UTZWc3InWsnRtlT716aY/edit#gid=302571280
and here:
http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22555-best-way-to-get-figiting-writer-resources.aspx
In terms of the Fidgeting Writer anyway.
As far as the goats are concerned, each will cost 11,712.8 Echos. Each item has different rates of acquisition of course, so simply maximizing for Echos per action will be more useful then listing individual items. This is incomplete, but should get you started.
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edited by MrBurnside on 7/27/2016
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MrBurnside
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7/27/2016
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Dudebro Pyro wrote:
Ah, amazing resources, just what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
Edit: Actually, I noticed that the spreadsheet you linked mentions "EPA if don't grind supplies: 1.92", and more importantly: "EPA if do grind supplies: 1.57". Meanwhile, the spreadsheet I mentioned in my original post shows an EPA of over 1.7.
Could anybody clarify which is correct please? 1.57 is outclassed by mutliple other grinds and really not worth the huge hassle of the whole Writer luck carousel. If that's the real yield then I'm going to stick to the Collection of Curiosities or something like that.
edited by Dudebro Pyro on 7/27/2016
edited by Dudebro Pyro on 7/27/2016
Going over the numbers in your initial post, the data set used had better luck then expected for the last three steps of the grind. As the odds are actually shown in the app (I'm told), this is probably where the main difference came from, since it's about 23% difference in the end.
That said, the spreadsheet you posted also didn't have sources for the ingredients so that is another potential issue. An_Ocelot's spreadsheet (the one in my post that I carelessly forgot to cite) has all grinds calculated on a post-everything, no-fate basis. The "Best way" thread lists some alternatives, although it's not comprehensive.
edited by MrBurnside on 7/27/2016
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