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The Mayor of London: Opportunity Card

Wiwo Posts: 365 7/26/2016	The opportunity card for our new mayoress has started appearing in the deck. Assisting her grants you 1 Docks Favour, 3 Greyfields 1879, and 1 Zee Ztory. Intriguing against her grants you 1 Criminals Favour and 2 Compromising Documents. I have yet to "Investigate" her. -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/26/2016	Actually, since you're given a diamond, I bet Stones is messing with Fires again by allowing this. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/26/2016	Pnakotic wrote: MidnightVoyager wrote: Actually, since you're given a diamond, I bet Stones is messing with Fires again by allowing this. Given that Stones has rather different sentiments towards the Fifth City than Fires or Wines, you might be onto something there. Not a particularly reassuring thought. Or he could just want to annoy him. "Ha ha, now your workers have better rights! middle bat-finger" -Stones, probably -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/28/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: You know, it's not remotely clear what the Masters (plural) want you to remain silent about. The stuff you uncover is all happening in public view and more or less what was planned during the campaign. Is it the implicit price tag that we're supposed to remain silent about? Or something else? I was a little puzzled about this as well ... I finally read it as 'Here's a little something to encourage you to stop asking questions. Don't dig any deeper.' edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 7/28/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/26/2016	Is Jenny playing a very deep game ... appearing to be working against the Masters while actually working for them? Or vise versa? -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Wiwo Posts: 365 7/26/2016	That's very interesting. When you assist her, it certainly seems to imply that she has an anti-Master agenda. What are those crafty old spacebats up to? -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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Edward Warren Posts: 120 7/30/2016	The "gift for your silence" leads me believe there's more at work than what we've uncovered so far. The "gift" might just be a bribe to stop digging where we're not wanted. The more I think about it, the more this sounds like a ploy by Stones and/or Wines. [spoiler] Stones is known for hating London and wanting to move on to the next city ASAP. Fostering better conditions and anti-Master sentiment is actually a brilliant way to get away with it. Fires is fighting to stay in London because he actually likes it here. He likes terrible working conditions and bossing people around. Stones loosening his grip on the poor makes him more likely to become frustrated and want to move on as well. Fostering outright revolt is a long-shot, but also helps Stones in a twisted way. Whenever a city is squeezed dry of its love stories and/or openly revolts against the Masters, they just release the lacre-vats under the city. Everyone except the Masters dies horribly and the next city falls down and squashes the previous city to rubble. That's why there are no Khanagians in the Forgotten Quarter, they were already poisoned/melted/drowned before London got here. I'm all for Mr. Fires and the Bazaar staying in London, because that really does work out best for everyone. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made... [/spoiler] edited by Edward Warren on 7/30/2016 edited by Edward Warren on 7/30/2016 -- WHAT IS BELOW CANNOT ESCAPE WHAT IS ABOVE
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Wiwo Posts: 365 7/26/2016	I wonder if Sinning Jenny's work with the lower class and underclass of London will mean that we're soon to have a use for Adrift on a Sea of Misery. Will my good works at my orphanage and generous donations to the Soft-Hearted Widow bear fruit? -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/26/2016	Wiwo wrote: That's very interesting. When you assist her, it certainly seems to imply that she has an anti-Master agenda. What are those crafty old spacebats up to? They're hardly uniform in their desires. She could still be all for Wines while against Fires. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/27/2016	It occurred to me, that just because someone bribes you _saying_ the bribe is from the Masters, doesn't mean that the bribe _is_ from the Masters. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 10/1/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: I expect the card's story is going to update at some point. We'll find out more about Jenny's Public Works Department and social programs. Some of the Contrarian's people will take a shot at her. The plots of the Masters will advance. The contrarian's people? The bishop is the one whose support has the most against her. The church generally frowns on prostitution even if they don't actually do anything about it, after all. The contrarian would post a piece condemning her and a piece extolling her virtues. There would be a dramatic anti-jenny protest on one side of the street, and an equally dramatic pro-jenny counter protest on the other! They would follow around anyone who seems to be associated with her- one side extolling her virtues the other condemning her vices- or perhaps the other way around, this is the contrarian after all- Her opposition would be convinced and trying to convince others that she is a puppet for every faction and her support of that she is in fact any-and-all of the above- a clay man, a snuffer, a rubbery, a snake in a clever costume, a sentient, hunchbacked duck, a star contained within a human form, a disembodied skull that has the power to make you misremember a body for it, a giant flaming head that is pulling an illusion of being human and concealed behind a curtain, the queen of hearts, a rabbit. The streets will be covered in lies and rumours, until nearly everything the average londoner knows about her is, in fact, a myth, and every truth treated as a myth. They will no longer believe she works at the parlour of virtue, and the people who believe that will be treated with the same disdain as someone who believes she's actually a gunea pig. There will be entire orders dedicated towards sorting truth from lies, and figuring out which lies were circulating first. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/30/2016	Just got it and it is Standard but, as we all know, the RNG is fickle and you need luck to draw even the most common cards. I guess the usual advice to draw in areas without location based cards and trim your deck might help a little. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Reande Despeydes Posts: 5 7/31/2016	Edward Warren wrote: The "gift for your silence" leads me believe there's more at work than what we've uncovered so far. The "gift" might just be a bribe to stop digging where we're not wanted. The more I think about it, the more this sounds like a ploy by Stones and/or Wines. [spoiler] Stones is known for hating London and wanting to move on to the next city ASAP. Fostering better conditions and anti-Master sentiment is actually a brilliant way to get away with it. Fires is fighting to stay in London because he actually likes it here. He likes terrible working conditions and bossing people around. Stones loosening his grip on the poor makes him more likely to become frustrated and want to move on as well. Fostering outright revolt is a long-shot, but also helps Stones in a twisted way. Whenever a city is squeezed dry of its love stories and/or openly revolts against the Masters, they just release the lacre-vats under the city. Everyone except the Masters dies horribly and the next city falls down and squashes the previous city to rubble. That's why there are no Khanagians in the Forgotten Quarter, they were already poisoned/melted/drowned before London got here. I'm all for Mr. Fires and the Bazaar staying in London, because that really does work out best for everyone. Sometimes sacrifices have to be made... [/spoiler] edited by Edward Warren on 7/30/2016 edited by Edward Warren on 7/30/2016 That's. Hmm. Quite the conspiracy theory. All the more worrying that it is known that the Masters play games with each other in such a way, so I really can't discount that. I do wonder that, if such a theory were true, then what would Jenny's public works have to do with it, and if Jenny herself would be blind to such machinations. She can be called many things, but I do not believe unobservant or ignorant would be among the terms used. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Reande A player of the Great Game. Prefers to be merciful. Prefers. Also open to most sorts of social tomfoolery. Does not appreciate live rodents.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/31/2016	Grenem wrote: That said, i just realized i may have miscalculated on the crime or punishment. Is 20 echoes the reward for any level from 5-7, or does it scale in some way? If it's a constant, 20 echo payout, it's about 4 - [0.2 action's epa] per favor if you use the card at exactly 5- which is better if you've hit 1 epa or higher. It should scale, going by the other conflict cards. At 7 favours I'd expect two more Sworn Statements or Broken Giant. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Sandi Gummy Posts: 75 7/27/2016	I can't wait to see the new card! The Favour is going to be useful for Expeditions later on xD -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Julia~Jokes Hello all I am new xD You can play chess or do things with me ^^
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/31/2016	The only Soul Trade criminal tie in I can think of is if you're a spirifer. There's a storylet in Ladybones Road that allows you to trade in 1,000 Souls for 3,000 Nevercold Brass Slivers and a couple Appalling Secrets (plus Hell connected). An Implausible Penance links to a card to trade 1 Favour in for 160 Souls. Doing the math...playing that 25 times would get you to 4,000 souls, which trades in for 121.10 echoes for your 54 actions, or 2.24 epa if you ignore the Hell connection gain. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/31/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/26/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: Actually, since you're given a diamond, I bet Stones is messing with Fires again by allowing this. Given that Stones has rather different sentiments towards the Fifth City than Fires or Wines, you might be onto something there. Not a particularly reassuring thought. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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The Master Posts: 804 7/26/2016	Optimatum wrote: The wiki says assisting gives two Zee-Ztories, not one. I just gained 1, so I guess it's random. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/26/2016	I happen to have the echo for investigating our sinful mayo. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vavakx~~Nonexus?fromEchoId=9175928 [this sort of text are notes from me, about rarity, picture, that sort of thing.] edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 7/26/2016 -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Grenem Posts: 2067 10/1/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Grenem wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: I expect the card's story is going to update at some point. We'll find out more about Jenny's Public Works Department and social programs. Some of the Contrarian's people will take a shot at her. The plots of the Masters will advance. The contrarian's people? The bishop is the one whose support has the most against her. The church generally frowns on prostitution even if they don't actually do anything about it, after all. The Contrarian's people were Revolutionaries and prank loving Tomb Colonists. The first hate the Masters and everyone working for them. The second like causing trouble for the hell of it. The bishop has society and the church, and while the revolutionaries may hate the masters, that hate is tempered all the way down. The church, meanwhile, loves to shun everyone and play holier-than-thou down here, and while their primary concern seems to be actual souls, I don't think they like jenny, either. Casting off her religion or being of such a perverse cult that it allows nuns to be prostitutes is not exactly something the rest like, regardless of which one they think it is. The only exception is a specific monastary, and I'm not entirely certain they're christian in the sense of the london church. You could say that line about the tomb-colonists. You could also say that about society, only their prank organization is organized and has more skeletons in the closet. You could say that about her own bohemians, if they matter in any way. Every faction that didn't support jenny didn't support jenny. unless she did something amazing for them, they still don't. Society, as a whole, seems likely to have a negative side of neutral opinion. Some probably hate that she's putting "hard-working" people's money to help "drunkards and layabouts". Most's public opinion is more neutral, but showing dramatic support of a recent prostitute probably keeps any pro-jenny from opening their mouths too wide. The Church probably considers a known prostitute in the highest office to be yet another sign of the fall of morality with the fall of london. The revolutionaries probably don't like her for her connections to the masters, but on the other hand, you could also claim she's probably not worth targeting- not when they could go after more active signs of the master's rule, softer targets, or one who doesn't have the low public's opinion on their side. As long as the masters have a hush device, a puppet mayor matters little. The bohemians might be disappointed with her apparent turn to a more virtuous side, and write disappointed poetry. Her peers at wines' might hold a grudge for her cutting ties with wines. At least one of the nuns does not seem to like her. In short, I could single any set of supporters, including her own, and come up with plausible reasons they would take a shot at her, if by that you mean run a smear campaign, try to get her out of office, or hold an organized anti-jenny protest. On the other hand, the same goes the other way- I could downplay those same factors! Singling out the Contrarian's is an uncalled for jab at him, in my opinion. Now, if you mean a literal assassination... I apologize for the misunderstanding. I read it as "try to ruin public opinion on her". You're right, the supporters of the contrarian are most likely for that... Though I would like to say i doubt the contrarian would condone it, personally. It's just the revolutionaries tend to be more kill-happy and the tomb-colonists don't quite get how big a deal a temp-death is to most people. Edited for the clarity, hopefully. edited by Grenem on 10/1/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Grenem Posts: 2067 10/1/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: I'm afraid I'm not quite sure what you're getting at... I take offense at you singling out the contrarian's supporters; assuming you don't mean literal assassination, the bishop's supporters are unlikely to like her any more, and quite possibly less- they were rivals before the contrarian entered the picture. Sure, the contrarian's has their reasons to hate her, but so do the bishop's supporters. So do, probably, some small minority of her own faction- her nun companion certainly didn't seem to enjoy her company during the fruits of the zee festival. edited by Grenem on 10/1/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 8/5/2016	Everyone. Hubris never picked a candidate, but he's drawn and used the card. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 8/1/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: btw, I can confirm there are no new options at Mr Wines revels and Sinning Jenny still attends the event. Yes, well, she's not a tame mayor, and this isn't a tame city. Throw away the veneer of a society of dignity, and pick up the veneer of someone who actually cares about people. Both, in the wildness of the neath, are lies. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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sosisqua Posts: 120 8/1/2016	I still haven't got a single appearance of Mayor card. How could it be? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sosisqua%20Sardelqua http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lazy%20Citizen is LOITERING with everyone. "Through the gate of North, as we make our way to Mr.Candle"
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absimiliard Posts: 759 8/1/2016	Because the Random Number Ghods are cruel beyond all belief. It is well known they only ever give you anything in order to make their future betrayals more painful. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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BlabberingMat Posts: 385 8/1/2016	RNG is cruel, indeed. I still have to encounter this mythical card -- Alt-Lana Loter Main-Always Drunk Slav "To see a world in a grain of sand, and Heaven in wild flowers. To hold an infinity in palm of hand and Eternity in an hour” Finally, I am Crooked Cross! Feel free to send invitations for Salon! As of June 5th, 1895, I am London's newest Legendary Charisma! The current progress in Mega Soul Grind: 53727/1 639 121 Souls
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 8/1/2016	I didn't have it show up until this weekend, but I've gotten it four times since. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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BlabberingMat Posts: 385 8/1/2016	I just drew it a few minutes ago. This thread must be lucky charm XD -- Alt-Lana Loter Main-Always Drunk Slav "To see a world in a grain of sand, and Heaven in wild flowers. To hold an infinity in palm of hand and Eternity in an hour” Finally, I am Crooked Cross! Feel free to send invitations for Salon! As of June 5th, 1895, I am London's newest Legendary Charisma! The current progress in Mega Soul Grind: 53727/1 639 121 Souls
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Odexios Posts: 35 8/1/2016	Is the card drawable everywhere? I still haven't seen it, I'd like to know if I have to curse the RNG or if I'm doing it wrong edited by Odexios on 8/1/2016 -- Odexios - A gentleman of a curious nature and a particular interest in souls. 78695 and counting! fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Odexios
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Vincent Asmund Posts: 314 8/1/2016	I am yet to encounter the mayor opportunity card, however, I wonder if they'll add some unique stories surrounding our Sinning Mayor. -- Vincent Åsmund, an ex-Author searching to return to his former glory. Konstantin Sorokin, a newcomer to the Neath with revolutionary tendencies.
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Odexios Posts: 35 8/1/2016	Robin Alexander wrote: Odexios wrote: Is the card drawable anywhere? I still haven't seen it, I'd like to know if I have to curse the RNG or if I'm doing it wrong It's drawable. My alt has drawn it about three times, and my main about once. I think someone said it's below standard frequency (not sure how rare or how true this is, though). It might help for you to move into a remote lodgings, if you have one, then stand around in an area that doesn't have unique cards, such as your lodgings or the Labyrinth (if I remember rightly) . . . you can also get rid of favours, to get rid of any related cards, and nuke an acquaintance that seems to get two cards just for herself . . . I think that's about all you can do to increase your odds, though, but the card will come eventually. Thanks for the confirmation! I had a little language mishap, I meant to ask if the card is drawable everywhere; but as far as I can see it is, so I'll just be patient. edited by Odexios on 8/1/2016 -- Odexios - A gentleman of a curious nature and a particular interest in souls. 78695 and counting! fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Odexios
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Hotshot Blackburn Posts: 110 7/26/2016	Have been lucky enough to both Investigate and Assist her: echoed in turn in case anyone is curious. -- Hotshot Blackburn: Messidor, Aspirant to the Calendar Council. Paramount Presence. Seeker of the Name. A firm believer in kindness, solidarity, and sufficient use of force and firepower.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/26/2016	The wiki says assisting gives two Zee-Ztories, not one. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Wiwo Posts: 365 7/26/2016	No. -- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely. Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred. Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably). I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/27/2016	What's the Echo for Intrigue?
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/27/2016	Have any former Contrarian supporters intrigued against her? My character supported the Bishop and her intrigues naturally involved the Church and several dubious associates of the Bishop. I'm wondering if the shenanigans of Contrarian supporters are any different. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/27/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Wiwo wrote: No. Awwww. Hopefully we'll get some unique stories at some point ^^ Actually, now that I've seen the card, I think it will over time tell an extended story. At present Jenny is just getting settled. Her Department of Public works is still under construction, for example. At some point it will be completed and her cronies will move in and begin their general looting the public treasury. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/27/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Have any former Contrarian supporters intrigued against her? My character supported the Bishop and her intrigues naturally involved the Church and several dubious associates of the Bishop. I'm wondering if the shenanigans of Contrarian supporters are any different. In my screenshot yesterday, the title is "The public's worst fears", all else equal. -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/30/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Makes sense for it to be one of the rarer cards as it gives really good returns. it makes sense for it not to be ubiquitous, and frequent would be a nuisance for anyone who doesn't see its value, or who doesn't have reliable favors disposal- and, if not overpowered, a substantial boost to those who do. but, it's less than an echo over the docks faction card, so less-than-standard wouldn't really feel fair either. The biggest disappointment is that opposing her gives the vastly inferior criminal favors. it might be fair, or correct, but those are the most obnoxiously common of all favors, and have a lower EpF than any other. rubbery men have 2.5 cards for londoners (counting the party, which might not be fair) [3.5 if companion is an option and you use it], tomb colonists have 1 [2 with companion], criminals now have up to 6.3 effective cards for londoners [7.3 with companion], and docks have 2 [3 with companion]. (ignoring fate-locked, as i haven't seen behind those locks.) To be fair, criminal favors have no viable grinding path, but to be unfair, with 6.3 cards... they don't need one. And besides, 12.8 echoes per favor in jail isn't a bad deal, anyways. I mean, the others have better Echoes between favors, but being able to hit favors 7 in 7 actions is really nice- if you don't mind heading to jail a ton, you could hit the 357 favors needed without ever drawing cards for the low, low price of 4462.5 echoes, and 51 trips to jail. Even with the cash-in price in the equation, that's not exactly bad enough to need 6.3 cards availible. edited by Grenem on 7/30/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Grenem Posts: 2067 8/1/2016	Optimatum wrote: Grenem wrote: That said, i just realized i may have miscalculated on the crime or punishment. Is 20 echoes the reward for any level from 5-7, or does it scale in some way? If it's a constant, 20 echo payout, it's about 4 - [0.2 action's epa] per favor if you use the card at exactly 5- which is better if you've hit 1 epa or higher. It should scale, going by the other conflict cards. At 7 favours I'd expect two more Sworn Statements or Broken Giant. The thing is, at 7 it's 20 echoes. if the thing that scales is anything besides suspicion reduction, the value at 5 would be lower. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 8/1/2016	btw, I can confirm there are no new options at Mr Wines revels and Sinning Jenny still attends the event. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/30/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: I think you burn through Criminal Favors at a faster rate than Dock Favors though? Anyway, this is just the first version of this card. There will be a new version for every progression of Jenny's tenure. You can burn through criminal favors faster- but the best options for criminals are still inferior to the docks for any purpose besides getting specific items. [otherwise, the docks have up-to 1 standard card's worth of favor uses, and still only have two card uses.] Docks are worth about 3.62 echoes, [excluding their expedition value, which can be rated as over 4.72 Echoes Per Favor with optimal watchful.] while criminals are worth, at best, 4.8 - [1 action's epa] per favor, and that's card based, fate-locked, and only one favor consumed per draw. The main selling point for criminal favors is their plethora of uses. if you need item "X", there's a decent chance criminal favors will let you get a nice stock. Still, if you ignore expeditions, the absurd rate of criminal's favors is only a nuisance to renown hunters, as all other uses are relatively balanced. [also, if that's true, source, please? I didn't know that.] -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/31/2016	Grenem wrote: ...while criminals are worth, at best, 4.8 - [1 action's epa] per favor, and that's card based, fate-locked, and only one favor consumed per draw. What use are you referring to? -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/31/2016	Optimatum wrote: Grenem wrote: ...while criminals are worth, at best, 4.8 - [1 action's epa] per favor, and that's card based, fate-locked, and only one favor consumed per draw. What use are you referring to? Um, someone told me about one that provided that in the soul trade. Unfortunately, as I am not a fate-player myself, and no one else stood up and said "that's wrong", i took it on faith. That said, i just realized i may have miscalculated on the crime or punishment. Is 20 echoes the reward for any level from 5-7, or does it scale in some way? If it's a constant, 20 echo payout, it's about 4 - [0.2 action's epa] per favor if you use the card at exactly 5- which is better if you've hit 1 epa or higher. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Zoe DeGeest Posts: 104 7/29/2016	I am having trouble drawing the new card -- Zoe DeGeest, your humble churchgoing grocer, now respectable.
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The Master Posts: 804 7/30/2016	Grenem wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Zoe DeGeest wrote: I am having trouble drawing the new card I don't think it's particularly common. I've only gotten it twice so far. can someone look and see if it's standard, frequent, or... ugh, neither? When I drew it on day 1 I THINK it was standard, but it's possible they changed it after that. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Meradine Heidenreich Posts: 468 7/30/2016	I think it's standard also. I had it twice within a couple of draws. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Meradine%20Heidenreich The Starveling kit Gobbled up the bit of cheese on my tray .. "O Weh!" No plant battles, please.
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