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Diptych
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7/18/2016
Herein is the weekly thread for short questions which require answers for this, the week of our lord beginning the 18th of July.

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Wicked Wonderland
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7/22/2016
Grenem, some of us are collectors. If we need it doesn't matter, it's there. It doesn't matter if you agree, we're all different here. I play differently, and value things differently.

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Neonir
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Posts: 118

7/20/2016
BlabberingMat wrote:
I am grinding Antique Mysteries in order to purchase reservation at Royal Beth, but my current way (Stealing them from Feducci) doesn't look like particularly efficient route. Any advices on that?


I have a somewhat....situational method of doing this. Firstly, it involved being a monster hunter, secondly, it involved having a boat, and lastly, it involves having access to the beast breeding storylets.

Effectively: Go out to zee, grab a seal with the monster hunter option (gives 1 antique mystery), take it back, either beat devils into a pulp for a bit or just tame the thing.

Taming gives passphrases, beating devils gives antique mysteries, theoretically the passphrases will get you the stuff faster, but will also require a few tomb colony favours.

Using this method, I got my reservation is abooouut three days of consistant effort.

I actually created a thread considering the efficiency of the method, and I believe it ended up in my favour because of the monster hunter bonus mystery. Just because, well, it takes just under 20 actions to make the zee voyage on an average run, and that gives you one, and then 8 actions later, you can have another 3 or therabouts. Averages out to about one mystery every 7 actions...which is actually some pretty decent epa all things considered.

Again though, very situational, and if you dont have all that pre-req...well, it's really, not a useful idea.

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Kaigen
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7/20/2016
Use Counting the Days to get a Consonant Violin, and that will provide a +1 Respectable weapon. The Respectable Landau also provides +2. Those are easier than getting a Yacht and don't lock you into the Parthanaeum as your club (I prefer the Young Stags).

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suinicide
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7/24/2016
I didn't think I was making it sound like light fingers was far behind. I really don't know. But if they updated all of them, they'd have to give LF two updates if they want to keep it equal with the rest. Thats all I was trying to say.

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Mr Sables
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7/24/2016
suinicide wrote:
The next one is light fingers, but I doubt theres a list.


There's sort of a list:

An Ambitious Update

They said - albeit back in 2014 - that "Light Fingers" would be the fourth one updated, and I'm fairly certain the other ambitions had their updates pretty much according to schedule. The fact it's been nearly two years since they said an update is on its way, and I don't think there have been any new information on the updates since, is kind of disheartening . . . I wouldn't hold your breath for an update, basically.
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The Master
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7/24/2016
suinicide wrote:
The next one is light fingers, but I doubt theres a list.


They said that ages ago, if they do update ambitions I just hope it will be all of them at once.

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suinicide
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7/24/2016
Probably not, as an update would finish every ambition but light fingers. (We've done our waiting!) Personally I'm starting to think they just put the rest of light fingers in one update.

Also that would be a lot of stuff for one update.
edited by suinicide on 7/24/2016

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The Master
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7/24/2016
suinicide wrote:
Probably not, as an update would finish every ambition but light fingers. (We've done our waiting!) Personally I'm starting to think they just put the rest of light fingers in one update.

Also that would be a lot of stuff for one update.
edited by suinicide on 7/24/2016


That's true, but we waited so long that im pretty sure everyone would like if all the ambitions were finished as soon as possible, if they don't do them all at the same time they will probably just do an update and then ignore ambitions for a long time, this may not have to happen, of course.

Is light fingers that behind? I knew it was behind the others by one update but I didn't know it was behind them so much.

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Grenem
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7/22/2016
Wicked Wonderland wrote:
What's the best way to go about getting Brilliant Souls for a Brass Embassy guest room? I'm only missing that and the Bazaar Lease from my collection of homes. Is grinding to buy plain souls and converting up the best way, or is there some avenue that provides more bang for my action?

First question: Why are you getting the brass embassy guest room? if you don't want the rare-but-currently-useless scrap items, the brass embassy is only good for an expensive "rare-stuff-to-MW". You don't need all three, and you have a 4-card lodging already. if you can't answer that, maybe consider not getting it? you can always get a lodging later- but removing lodgings is impossible without progressing seriously far into seeking and maiming your character. it's also frequent draw, so it'll show up twice as often as most.

look at the options on the wiki: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/The_Western_Tower:_a_Guest_Room_at_the_Brass_Embassy

is it worth having to forever deal with it, and paying 625 echoes for the privledge? most players seem to think, or have thought, the answer is yes- but if you can't explain why, don't get it, or wait until you can. go buy yourself some nice gear in the meanwhil. Ideally, stuff you can dispose of when you tire of its useless card, or stuff without a card in the first place.

Don't fall for POSI materialism. I did, and i've still got some of the stupider cards clogging my deck. Just because you can get it doesn't mean you must. Anyways: You know why you're adding this card to your deck? good. I don't care what your answer is, but you need to have one.

Any plain souls you have should be mass-upconverted if you can.

You can get 25 brilliant souls every ~10 [9.88888] actions spent on casing from a gang of hoodlums, if you can pass the shadowy-checks, which is the best grind for souls, i believe. {the other casing options give one every ~12 actions [11.66666]} however, for getting souls, this means the if you have 50 any of the conversion carosel that you don't need, side converting is worth doing, sorted by priority:

[all the up/side-conversion carosel saves time on actually getting the card, assuming you have the requisite 50 of X, but it does it by sending you to work at 0.5 epa, as opposed to the casing's 1.26 epa. You decide if it's worth it, i don't know how echo deprived you are. mid-teir upgrades are always worth doing if they won't use up supplies of stuff you need.]
edited by Grenem on 7/22/2016

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Wicked Wonderland
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7/22/2016
As for why, well, getting the properties was a goal of mine from the beginning. How profitable it is, is irrelevant. Thank you for your concern, though.

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Conrad Baltar
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7/24/2016
Is there anywhere to keep track of which Ambition is next to be updated? Or a vague list of the last time each one was updated?

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Vavakx Nonexus
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7/21/2016
Neonir wrote:
BlabberingMat wrote:
I am grinding Antique Mysteries in order to purchase reservation at Royal Beth, but my current way (Stealing them from Feducci) doesn't look like particularly efficient route. Any advices on that?


I have a somewhat....situational method of doing this. Firstly, it involved being a monster hunter, secondly, it involved having a boat, and lastly, it involves having access to the beast breeding storylets.

Effectively: Go out to zee, grab a seal with the monster hunter option (gives 1 antique mystery), take it back, either beat devils into a pulp for a bit or just tame the thing.

Taming gives passphrases, beating devils gives antique mysteries, theoretically the passphrases will get you the stuff faster, but will also require a few tomb colony favours.

Using this method, I got my reservation is abooouut three days of consistant effort.

I actually created a thread considering the efficiency of the method, and I believe it ended up in my favour because of the monster hunter bonus mystery. Just because, well, it takes just under 20 actions to make the zee voyage on an average run, and that gives you one, and then 8 actions later, you can have another 3 or therabouts. Averages out to about one mystery every 7 actions...which is actually some pretty decent epa all things considered.

Again though, very situational, and if you dont have all that pre-req...well, it's really, not a useful idea.



Have I mentioned how cool it is that this becomes an actual, viable option for epa? Like, there aren't many chances to make money by doing your actual job, and this one is kind of a rarity.

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Parelle
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Posts: 1084

7/20/2016
Koenig wrote:
Out of curiosity, I was wondering if anyone here had any idea when the next renown update will be rolling around?



The next one is due to Urchins, but I don't think a date has been set.

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Mikarissa
Mikarissa
Posts: 60

7/21/2016
My alt, Aislene Aveskamp, just got the storylet called "A Name Known to Many", prompting them to choose appropriate level of "The name signed with a flourish". The thing is, they haven't played any of Veilgarden content yet, and I'd rather postpone it a bit more and then start playing it from the very beginning, including the mushroom epic. Do I absolutely have to choose and get "the name signed..."? Was this thing even supposed to happen? I was under impression these storylets were a one-time thing, when the early content just got overhauled. Is this a bug?
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Wicked Wonderland
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7/22/2016
What's the best way to go about getting Brilliant Souls for a Brass Embassy guest room? I'm only missing that and the Bazaar Lease from my collection of homes. Is grinding to buy plain souls and converting up the best way, or is there some avenue that provides more bang for my action?

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Sara Hysaro
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7/22/2016
You'll probably want to do Thefts of a Particular Character in Spite to steal Brilliant Souls directly. The Gang of Hoodlums option is the best to prepare, but you can also use the POSI option if you don't want to get a Gang first (or if your Shadowy is low).

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Vavakx Nonexus
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7/22/2016
Sara Hysaro wrote:
You'll probably want to do Thefts of a Particular Character in Spite to steal Brilliant Souls directly. The Gang of Hoodlums option is the best to prepare, but you can also use the POSI option if you don't want to get a Gang first (or if your Shadowy is low).


Alternatively, feed the Big Rat smaller rats for Casing, which, I believe, gives the same as Gang in 1 action for 3 Talkative Rattuses.
edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 7/22/2016

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PJ
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7/22/2016
Try equipping some gear to lower your Persuasive below 14? It might be too late, now that the storylet has already fired.

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Skinnyman
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7/22/2016
I was finally able to get Soul Trade and become a great Shepherd, but the certain card cures my nightmares as well. As I want to draw The Interpreter of Dreams card, I was wondering what actions increase nightmares on success, but also provide a decent benefit.
I'm Seeking Curious in the FQ, but are there any other options?
Besides a Public Lecture, what other profitable menace actions exist out there? Regarding cards, besides the City Vice nightmare and, from what I read, the Velocipede Squad card.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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7/22/2016
Can I reset my Advancing the Liberation of Night at present?

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7/22/2016
If you buy lost in reflections and make the right choice at the end.

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Chiltern
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7/22/2016
Skinnyman wrote:
I was finally able to get Soul Trade and become a great Shepherd, but the certain card cures my nightmares as well. As I want to draw The Interpreter of Dreams card, I was wondering what actions increase nightmares on success, but also provide a decent benefit.
I'm Seeking Curious in the FQ, but are there any other options?
Besides a Public Lecture, what other profitable menace actions exist out there? Regarding cards, besides the City Vice nightmare and, from what I read, the Velocipede Squad card.



You've asked twice and no one's answered you yet and I suspect it might be because aside from Curios in the Quarter it's hard to think of profitable nightmarish storylets offhand.

Cardwise, if you haven't already gotten rid of Jack but are an Annoyance to him, you get an option on the Clay Sedan that gives you nightmares in exchange for three tales of terror and three appalling secrets, and sometimes gives you a constable's badge. After solving cases around London, the glim sculptor will sometimes give you gifts that increase wounds and nightmares in exchange for Scholar of the Correspondence and 50 glim. City Vices Decadent Evening gives Scandal, a nice payout in wine, a Confident Smile, and Making Waves equal to current Scandal - potentially 7 MW from a Standard-frequency card is pretty nice on its own even without the wine and Smile. Sometimes instead of the wine you get even more Smiles and a glove that goes for more than 6 echoes.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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7/22/2016
There was this old thread on raising menaces, but it's oriented for action-efficiency not profit:

http://community.failbettergames.com/topic9427-raising-menaces.aspx

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Grenem
Grenem
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7/20/2016
The Master wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Sara Hysaro wrote:
I've heard that Tears of the Bazaar have a 1/5th chance of burning up, and if this is correct then you can probably expect about 6 levels on average.

Sorry, wrong question- how much volume, from the description, do you think the vials of tears hold each? I'm wondering if it's, say, 1 fluid ounce a vial- in which case, i have 1/4th of a gallon- or 4 fluid ounces, as a google of the smallest standard flask size claims to be- or 2 fluid ounces, or 8.

I want enough to drown a master, and i'm wondering how much i'd need to dilute it.

something like that, i mean.
edited by Grenem on 7/20/2016


77 is usually enough, if that doesn't work, make sure you have 777 around you just in case someone decides they don't want to die, and is it just drowning a Master or will there be more? We need more information! (And for the love of God make sure Veils suffers somehow too).

The plan is to drop/shove a master in a crate, which will be exactly as hard as it sounds, which will be filled with diluted tears. once it falls in, we'll close the lid- we, because i will need a lot of help- and trap it in there. unless it can rip through seriously nasty stuff while in lacre, that should do the job... so it probably won't.

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Vavakx Nonexus
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7/20/2016
Robin Alexander wrote:
Sorry if it's a stupid question!

Is there a way to get to 7 respectable without Fate?

My alt needs 7 to get past a stage of his ambition; he has 4+ in Affiliation, 1+ in Clothing, and 1+ in Companion. That just makes 6, though. I've trolled the Bazaar and can't find anything else that would give +1, or an added bonus on my other slots (unless I'm missing something)?

It's irking me, as I didn't think Ambitions had fate-locked sections to them, so I'm assuming I'm missing something here . . . is there a way to get that final point? :-S



If you were a campaigner, you'd get boots that give you +1 Respectable. Otherwise, you can acquire a Majestic Pleasure Yacht, which gives +2, or join the Pathanaeum for +4.

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spacecatte
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7/18/2016
the usually recommended way to get magnificent diamonds is to start racking up a lot of favors with the Criminals. after you max at 7, wait for the implausible penance card, take the big final 7 favor option (pugilism and politics) and if you don't betray the criminals then you should get a magnificent diamond. your best bet to make this grind as fast as possible is to optimize your source of criminals favors (getting the connected pet, getting a gang of hoodlums, etc)

now, as for the FASTEST way, there might be some fate option somewhere, but i don't know about it

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Grenem
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7/20/2016
Sara Hysaro wrote:
I've heard that Tears of the Bazaar have a 1/5th chance of burning up, and if this is correct then you can probably expect about 6 levels on average.

Sorry, wrong question- how much volume, from the description, do you think the vials of tears hold each? I'm wondering if it's, say, 1 fluid ounce a vial- in which case, i have 1/4th of a gallon- or 4 fluid ounces, as a google of the smallest standard flask size claims to be- or 2 fluid ounces, or 8.

I want enough to drown a master, and i'm wondering how much i'd need to dilute it.

something like that, i mean.
edited by Grenem on 7/20/2016

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Calembredaine
Calembredaine
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7/21/2016
Does anyone know of a way to get Connected: Benthic if you lost the quality entirely, when you've already been expelled/reinstated at the university?

EDIT: it turned out to be very easy, "A Colleague with a Problem" at the University solved my problem. Sorry about the rather stupid question!
edited by Calembredaine on 7/21/2016
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suinicide
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7/21/2016
If you're reinstated you can help a colleague with a problem in the university. Otherwise you can donate what you find from archeological expeditions.

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Calembredaine
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7/21/2016
Thank you both, A Colleague with a Problem worked!

suinicide wrote:
If you're reinstated you can help a colleague with a problem in the university. Otherwise you can donate what you find from archeological expeditions.


Unfortunately donations require you have connected: Benthic/Summerset already, I found that out the hard way.
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suinicide
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7/24/2016
The next one is light fingers, but I doubt theres a list.

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