narcomanic
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7/17/2016
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Do we have a clear idea what Hell’s attitude towards the Bazaar and the Masters is (or vice versa), in terms of antagonistic, potential allies, or simply indifferent? On the one hand, Hell’s lucrative soul trade appears very compatible with the Bazaar’s space bat capitalism... thing. On the other hand, Hell seems interested in increasing its own independent power by way of the Iron Republic, which from what I’ve gathered in Sunless Sea has some associations with the Revolutionaries (option to sell the Memento Mori etc.).
I wonder if there are any storylets that shed light on the connection between these two factions?
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IgnatuStone
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7/17/2016
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A while ago I diagrammed the various relationships and factions in Fallen London and I came to the conclusion that there is a very low key proxy war going on between the Bazaar and Hell. My evidence for this is as follows:
The 1868 war between London and Hell. Based on the almost immediate annihilation of London's armies and the devilish sponsorship of the Bishop's present campaign. I suspect that the war was instigated by infernal agents.
The Iron Republic invasion of Polythreme in an attempt to liberate it. Polythreme pays a tithe of clay men to the Bazaar and is its nominal subject.
The Iron Republic supplies the Empire of Hands with Fuel for their project. London has a well known enmity towards the Pentecost apes.
I realize this is mostly conjecture. Feel free to dispute my claims.
edited by IgnatuStone on 7/17/2016
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Sara Hysaro
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7/17/2016
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I'm not completely sure, but I get the impression that the two have...agreements. Neither of them have loyalty towards each other, and indeed Hell will do whatever it can to get accomplish what it wishes without getting caught, but they aren't against each other as far as I'm aware.
What I want to know is how the Bazaar and Hell got along before the Season of Revolutions, whether the current arrangements were worked out before or after then, and whether spirifage was so prevalent beforehand. The answer to the last one is probably yes.
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Brito
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7/19/2016
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When I moved into the Sanctums the devil who was showing me around said they wanted the Bazaar to be happy, I can't seem to find the echo right now, also I have noticed an alliance between Hell and Parabola, I don't know how but they seem to know and work with the Fingerkings, which would mean they are not too comfortable on their partnership with the Bazaar.
As of the Iron Republic it doesn't seem to be part of a power struggle but of an experiment, should the Bazaar fail on it's mission and the cities stop falling. I don't think there's a direct connection between Hell and the Revolutionaries, they just like the place for it's chaos.
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aegisaglow
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7/19/2016
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Henrique Brito wrote:
When I moved into the Sanctums the devil who was showing me around said they wanted the Bazaar to be happy
I actually just moved into my sanctum today, so I have the echo right at hand!
"Here's your little throne. These machines will bring you noise and sustenance, and whisper to you of the city outside. Just... keep doing what you're doing, will you? The Bazaar likes it. And we only want it to be happy, don't we?"
Which doesn't exactly sound sincere. More like they're trying to keep it placated.
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Brito
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7/19/2016
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aegisaglow wrote:
"Here's your little throne. These machines will bring you noise and sustenance, and whisper to you of the city outside. Just... keep doing what you're doing, will you? The Bazaar likes it. And we only want it to be happy, don't we?"
Which doesn't exactly sound sincere. More like they're trying to keep it placated.
Thank you! Yes indeed, but not once have I heard these humanoid bees sound honest, it sounds to me like an official stance, and the best move.
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Johny Topside
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7/20/2016
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Say, while we're on the topic of the Iron Republic, what is it's purpose anyway? A devil seems to imply that they're using it for experiments 'since the Bazaar won't be around forever' but what's he getting at with that?
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Estelle Knoht
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7/19/2016
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IgnatuStone wrote:
A while ago I diagrammed the various relationships and factions in Fallen London and I came to the conclusion that there is a very low key proxy war going on between the Bazaar and Hell. My evidence for this is as follows:
The 1868 war between London and Hell. Based on the almost immediate annihilation of London's armies and the devilish sponsorship of the Bishop's present campaign. I suspect that the war was instigated by infernal agents.
The Iron Republic invasion of Polythreme in an attempt to liberate it. Polythreme pays a tithe of clay men to the Bazaar and is its nominal subject.
The Iron Republic supplies the Empire of Hands with Fuel for their project. London has a well known enmity towards the Pentecost apes.
I realize this is mostly conjecture. Feel free to dispute my claims.
I am not going to dispute you, but here's some additions -
The Iron Republic invaded Polythreme, but apparently they was caught by surprise by the island's self defense in general. Or, at least, they are woefully unprepared and get trounced.
Informing the Masters of the Bishop's invasion plans does very little. At the minimum, the Masters aren't concerned about stopping him.
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