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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/12/2016	Okay, so I have seen somewhat of a lot of bitterness regarding this election. Anti jenny voting blocks, people putting their votes for sale due to being disenfrancised with their candidates (Guilty), people disliking comments about anything to do with vote... I just want to say this. Keep in mind this entire thing is supposed to be fun. We are taking the whole thing way to seriusly right now. Right now I am also guilty of that, not because of me sellig my vote but because i worry what will happen if one or the other wins. I've changed my vote like 10 times based on who was more courrpt before deciding screw it and even now I'm not sure selling my vote is a good choice. Keep in mind, it's just a game. Whoever wins will probably not have a major effect. I doubt winning voters will have a advantage because that would be unfair, and it's unlikely that one or another winning will ruin London entirely. All shall be well and all manner of things shall be well and all that. So chill, have fun, don't take it too seriously. edited by Kylestien on 7/12/2016 -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	shrugs The writers did a really good job of sucking everyone into the election. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/12/2016	If you offend, annoy or harass players supporting other candidates strongly enough to drive them out of the community or make them quit the game altogether, the chance of your candidate winning would minutely increase. A Troubled Aide whispers something in Passionario's ear. And that would be wrong. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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TheThirdPolice Posts: 609 11/20/2016	Don't be absurd, that would take months. -- Excessive Corpse & Tender to Irreal Ravens Lover of Flawed Souls And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/12/2016	As I just said in the Anti-Jenny thread, taking ridiculous things seriously is fun, isn't it? Any time you get invested in a story, any time you care if a character on a screen or on a page will live or die, you are worried over something of no real consequence. The bitterness if part of that, I think - some stories are meant to evoke negative feelings, and many willingly consume such stories. So I suggest, in the spirit of contrarianism, that we all take the fact that people are taking this seriously less seriously. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/12/2016	As fun as it may be to get swept up into debate we should be sure to remain civil and polite to one another. No need for hostilities here. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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IgnatuStone Posts: 208 7/12/2016	I'm voting in hope of some major effect. I want war with Hell, Revolutions, a coup led by militant nuns! I welcome the chaos and destruction our new mayor will doubtlessly bring. Let the city burn and the false stars plummet down from the firmament! edited by IgnatuStone on 7/12/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ignatus~Stone
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/12/2016	I agree. I'd rather the forums not turn hostile and we can all enjoy the story no matter what. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/12/2016	Harassing other players? Hostilities? Are you two referring to anything in particular? I don't think I've seen anything that wasn't in good taste, but maybe I've just been lucky enough to avoid the worst. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/12/2016	Tie it in to Professions. Watch the Conjurer makes the votes go away! Watch the Murderer makes the candidate go away! Watch the Tutor corrupts a child! -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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phryne Posts: 1351 7/12/2016	+1 to the OP (which is the only one I've read) This is a fictional election with fictional candidates in a fictional city. It's fine writing in-character posts praising/denouncing candidates. But please never forget it's all just a game! -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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BillyBones Posts: 40 7/12/2016	Incendiary arguments are to be expected, yes? It's all in good fun, after all. So remember, if you find yourself taking this too seriously, just sit back, relax, and vote Contrarian. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BillyBones I'll accept any social actions, but especially chess.
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narcomanic Posts: 64 7/12/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Guns for hire are a regular part of elections across the world. Maybe next Festival could have an actual corruption mechanic. I send you a comprehensive bribe or three, which when accepted breaks down into a bunch of echoes and goodies, and if you accept you switch candidates. If you refuse it causes the person who sent it to you scandal. A corruption/bribery mechanic like this sounds really interesting. Could work as a social action, though obviously limited to people who've chosen a different candidate than you. Though it feels like switching candidates should also trigger the Turncoat quality or something similar, from an in-game perspective (and maybe having high Turncoat eventually locks you out of taking any more bribes, because clearly you're not someone to be trusted anymore). edited by narcomanic on 7/12/2016 -- Cecilia Vass, a Shattering Force available for patronage. Warning: You will get stabbed. Take it as a compliment. Currently rallying mobs for Feducci.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	Someone systematically down-voted a bunch of pro-Jenny posts, which seems a silly thing to both do and get upset about. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/12/2016	Oh, and half of the free votes on the bribery threat have a red -5 next to them. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/12/2016	There have been things in poor taste. Also someone getting bothered enough by he whole situation to feel the need to step away from the game for a while. Neither is a good thing. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	It seems less the scheming and more the arguments that are causing trouble. The election's writing and gameplay have both been really good and are causing some relatively strong feelings. At least we have a taste of what those poor souls in London are going through, with all those campaigners, fixers, and agitators going around knocking down doors, starting riots, and generally trying to buttonhole people :P -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Belladonna Mercurius Posts: 43 7/12/2016	It is all in good fun, but let it be known jenny is using her corruption for good and only focuses her attention on only corruption to right them. Politics are always going to be a touchy subject anyway and selling votes seems to be even worse than what the candidates are endulging in. Stay salty! -- Can this lady be of some assistance? Http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Belladonna~Mercurius
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Reshemin Posts: 226 11/20/2016	I can't decide which thought I find most compelling - that you are totally off any known maps by now, or that you've been zailing in zirkles for a year.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/13/2016	You always think it's a good time to be 160 leagues out at Zee, A L W A Y S.... Abs flashes a wicked grin at you, a grin so bright it can even be seen 160 leagues out to Zee, how they manage that . .. . . well, it must be dreams. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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Odexios Posts: 35 7/12/2016	As far as I can see as a lurker, I think there's not much an issue of taking things too seriously; it seems to me people are having fun, even when willingly exaggerating the importance of this election. Nothing bad with vote selling, harsh arguing and brigading, as far as having fun is the objective. -- Odexios - A gentleman of a curious nature and a particular interest in souls. 78695 and counting! fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Odexios
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Blaine Davidson Posts: 388 7/12/2016	I'm a bit taken aback by the Jenny camp, they're getting a bit inflammatory, especially with remarks to Jenny's background. I know for role-playing reasons my character would almost never vote for her, solely on the basis that she is a lady of the night. My character being the prude that she is, finds the profession distasteful and does her best avoid the establishments in Veilgarden. It doesn't help that my character has had virtually no interactions with Jenny and thus, knows nothing about the monster hunting or connections overzee. I understand that these sentiments may not be politically correct in 2016 but these thoughts would not be inaccurate given the year of 1894, right? -- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Oh, and half of the free votes on the bribery threat have a red -5 next to them. shrugs Some people don't approve of vote buying? Well, my other options would be to vote for a candidate I do not support, nuke my career and Notability, which still would not fully remove my disinterested vote. Both of those are annoying and boring to execute. Instead, I opted for the third option, to sell my vote and engage with the community in an unusual way. To me, at least, this feels like a reasonable decision and much, MUCH better than ruining myself. Also, I thought someone else would already create something similar (and there WAS something similar, with Passionario and Jenny's Fixers), keeping in mind Jenny's hijinks and the amount of fixers among us. If you do not wish to participate in it, than don't. If you think that the rules of my threat are flawed, dislike away. But, if you dislike purely due to it being 'immoral' and 'not in the spirit', than stop and consider why all it was created before making such a decision. I haven't down voted anyone on your vote buying thread and in fact I tried to buy your vote, remember? :P It didn't work out because neither of us trust Londoners :P Sorry if it seemed like I was addressing you specifically. I just felt that this would be a nice transition to talk about why I have created the bribery forum topic. Thanks for the burst of activity, though. Every bit helps in furthering the 4th option. Guns for hire are a regular part of elections across the world. Maybe next Festival could have an actual corruption mechanic. I send you a comprehensive bribe or three, which when accepted breaks down into a bunch of echoes and goodies, and if you accept you switch candidates. If you refuse it causes the person who sent it to you scandal. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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TheThirdPolice Posts: 609 7/13/2016	Lies! I've already decided it's a good time to be 170 leagues out to zee. -- Excessive Corpse & Tender to Irreal Ravens Lover of Flawed Souls And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/13/2016	Do I hear 180 . . . .. ? -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/12/2016	IgnatuStone wrote: I'm voting in hope of some major effect. I want war with Hell, Revolutions, a coup led by militant nuns! I welcome the chaos and destruction our new mayor will doubtlessly bring. Let the city burn and the false stars plummet down from the firmament! edited by IgnatuStone on 7/12/2016 To be honest I'd rather not have half the game suddenly disappear. I'm rather fond of Fallen London, both the game and the setting. Even aside from how much work it would be to rewrite half the lore-referencing storylets, I would miss them and be sad for newcomers who couldn't experience them the way I did.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/12/2016	Yeah, I'm not surprised to be honest. It is a somewhat murky idea. One I'm guilty of, but still murky. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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A Dimness Posts: 613 11/20/2016	It's even more hilarious when you consider that for all of his leagues, he can still flash back into london with only a single action. The Zee is weird like that. -- A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/12/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Oh, and half of the free votes on the bribery threat have a red -5 next to them. shrugs Some people don't approve of vote buying? Well, my other options would be to vote for a candidate I do not support, nuke my career and Notability, which still would not fully remove my disinterested vote. Both of those are annoying and boring to execute. Instead, I opted for the third option, to sell my vote and engage with the community in an unusual way. To me, at least, this feels like a reasonable decision and much, MUCH better than ruining myself. Also, I thought someone else would already create something similar (and there WAS something similar, with Passionario and Jenny's Fixers), keeping in mind Jenny's hijinks and the amount of fixers among us. If you do not wish to participate in it, than don't. If you think that the rules of my threat are flawed, dislike away. But, if you dislike purely due to it being 'immoral' and 'not in the spirit', than stop and consider why all it was created before making such a decision. I haven't down voted anyone on your vote buying thread and in fact I tried to buy your vote, remember? :P It didn't work out because neither of us trust Londoners :P Sorry if it seemed like I was addressing you specifically. I just felt that this would be a nice transition to talk about why I have created the bribery forum topic. Thanks for the burst of activity, though. Every bit helps in furthering the 4th option. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/12/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Oh, and half of the free votes on the bribery threat have a red -5 next to them. shrugs Some people don't approve of vote buying? Well, my other options would be to vote for a candidate I do not support, nuke my career and Notability, which still would not fully remove my disinterested vote. Both of those are annoying and boring to execute. Instead, I opted for the third option, to sell my vote and engage with the community in an unusual way. To me, at least, this feels like a reasonable decision and much, MUCH better than ruining myself. Also, I thought someone else would already create something similar (and there WAS something similar, with Passionario and Jenny's Fixers), keeping in mind Jenny's hijinks and the amount of fixers among us. If you do not wish to participate in it, than don't. If you think that the rules of my threat are flawed, dislike away. But, if you dislike purely due to it being 'immoral' and 'not in the spirit', than stop and consider why all it was created before making such a decision. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/13/2016	Make that 190. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 11/20/2016	Oh, my! You left all of us out of word, delicious, Zailor! EDIT: How about changing your signature? You may search for the Zun, but, for now, the Zee has you! edited by Skinnyman on 11/20/2016 -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/12/2016	Frankly, having just gone through a very bitter primary campaign in the U.S., and with the promise of three more months of frolic yet to come, the FL election seems quite sedate by comparison. Although it's been somewhat amusing, in a sour way, to see some of the same kinds of rhetoric and devices employed in a fictional setting. But the microcosm has nothing on the macrocosm. -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Zoe DeGeest Posts: 104 7/12/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Someone systematically down-voted a bunch of pro-Jenny posts, which seems a silly thing to both do and get upset about. Hooray! I am systematic! Calm down. Anyway, downvotes are not helpful for election arguments. Use words! They are not going to switch because of a red number! -- Zoe DeGeest, your humble churchgoing grocer, now respectable.
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Hazel Posts: 69 7/13/2016	narcomanic wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Guns for hire are a regular part of elections across the world. Maybe next Festival could have an actual corruption mechanic. I send you a comprehensive bribe or three, which when accepted breaks down into a bunch of echoes and goodies, and if you accept you switch candidates. If you refuse it causes the person who sent it to you scandal. A corruption/bribery mechanic like this sounds really interesting. Could work as a social action, though obviously limited to people who've chosen a different candidate than you. Though it feels like switching candidates should also trigger the Turncoat quality or something similar, from an in-game perspective (and maybe having high Turncoat eventually locks you out of taking any more bribes, because clearly you're not someone to be trusted anymore). edited by narcomanic on 7/12/2016 I really like this idea, and I'm glad FBG have stated outright that they intend to expand the event next year, because that means we might get something like this. Which I would enjoy a lot. Of course, votes are confidential, so... -- "I can walk in the Mirror-Marches at the edge of dreams as easily as I might promenade in Tyrant's Gardens." Skymaw & Belle Dame
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TheThirdPolice Posts: 609 7/13/2016	Maybe it's a good time to be 160 leagues out to zee. -- Excessive Corpse & Tender to Irreal Ravens Lover of Flawed Souls And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/12/2016	Vavakx Nonexus wrote: Sorry if it seemed like I was addressing you specifically. I just felt that this would be a nice transition to talk about why I have created the bribery forum topic. Thanks for the burst of activity, though. Every bit helps in furthering the 4th option. Just a random thought, it might be worth adding your reasoning for doing so in the thread. I know I try to do so when i make any thread that may seem rather ill to others. -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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A Dimness Posts: 613 7/12/2016	It hurts me to have to go against what my character would do. The Mirthless Colonists would doubtlessly have gone for Sinning Jenny, what with doing Ambition: Bag a Legend and being somewhat indebted to Jenny. I just personally prefer the contrarian. Well, atleast the contrarian has the Tomb-colonies on his side, that justifies it a bit more. -- A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/13/2016	Go 360 for the win. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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Fluby Posts: 48 11/21/2016	Infinity Simulacrum wrote: It's even more hilarious when you consider that for all of his leagues, he can still flash back into london with only a single action. The Zee is weird like that. Treachery of Maps!
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