Anne Auclair
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7/12/2016
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Professor Sketch wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.
Everyone gets access to the Mayoral Influence, not just the winners.
"The winning candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck until next year's reelection, so consider who you support carefully."
That last bit sounds rather like who you vote on will decide exactly how positive this 'Mayoral Influence' is.
If it were just for the winning players then it would say "Those who back the winning candidate will get Mayroal Influence in your Opportunity Deck." But instead it says "the Winning Candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck" - meaning that everyone will feel the impact of the results.
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thedeadlymoose
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7/12/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Professor Sketch wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.
Everyone gets access to the Mayoral Influence, not just the winners.
"The winning candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck until next year's reelection, so consider who you support carefully."
That last bit sounds rather like who you vote on will decide exactly how positive this 'Mayoral Influence' is.
If it were just for the winning players then it would say "Those who back the winning candidate will get Mayroal Influence in your Opportunity Deck." But instead it says "the Winning Candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck" - meaning that everyone will feel the impact of the results.
Right, but that option might be locked unless you are recorded as a supporter of that candidate (and that is a quality tracked by that game). Or it might have a different, lesser effect, like the Hallowmas option.
This is a really good question, actually...
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Anne Auclair
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7/12/2016
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thedeadlymoose wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Professor Sketch wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.
Everyone gets access to the Mayoral Influence, not just the winners.
"The winning candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck until next year's reelection, so consider who you support carefully."
That last bit sounds rather like who you vote on will decide exactly how positive this 'Mayoral Influence' is.
If it were just for the winning players then it would say "Those who back the winning candidate will get Mayroal Influence in your Opportunity Deck." But instead it says "the Winning Candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck" - meaning that everyone will feel the impact of the results.
Right, but that option might be locked unless you are recorded as a supporter of that candidate (and that is a quality tracked by that game). Or it might have a different, lesser effect, like the Hallowmas option.
This is a really good question, actually...
It's there in black and white, all players will have access to it, whatever it is.
What's the Hallowmas option?
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Sara Hysaro
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7/12/2016
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The Hallowmas option is accessible to pretty much everyone who participated in Hallowmas (though there's a special thing for those who said Humbug, I believe), but those who turned in more Spirit receive more from that option than those with a lower Spirit entry.
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Diptych
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7/12/2016
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I doubt the winning candidate's supporters will receive a significant bonus - it would incentivise mass switching to whichever candidate's in the lead in the final run of the festival, which is obviously unideal.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
7/12/2016
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Professor Sketch wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Professor Sketch wrote:
Anne Auclair wrote:
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.
Everyone gets access to the Mayoral Influence, not just the winners.
"The winning candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck until next year's reelection, so consider who you support carefully."
That last bit sounds rather like who you vote on will decide exactly how positive this 'Mayoral Influence' is.
If it were just for the winning players then it would say "Those who back the winning candidate will get Mayroal Influence in your Opportunity Deck." But instead it says "the Winning Candidate will have a Mayoral Influence in your opportunity deck" - meaning that everyone will feel the impact of the results.
I know. I said that. I'm saying that it sounds like if you support the winning candidate, you'll receive a more positive impact. Hence the 'so consider who you support carefully.'
That's not what it sounds like at all.
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Optimatum
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7/12/2016
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I find the whole idea of strategic voting rather silly in this scenario. This is a game, even if you particularly dislike one candidate. They don't exist, the Mayoral Influence won't be permanent, and I doubt there'd be any significant difference in value of the card between candidates.
Also the second highest option in the poll is Contrarian supporters voting for him no matter what. They truly embody the spirit of contrarianism.
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Kylestien
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7/12/2016
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I supported Jenny, but since all three options seem pretty bad, all three make for interesting tales, and to be honest I've never been one for supportin the clear winner, I've gone and decided to put my vote on the market as it were.
But I'm with optimatum, the whole ideas of strategic voting, selling your votes, really anything rather then having some harmless fun is kinda stupid. It's not a big deal.
...Still putting y vote up for grabs though.
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Anne Auclair
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7/12/2016
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Kylestien wrote:
But I'm with optimatum, the whole ideas of strategic voting, selling your votes, really anything rather then having some harmless fun is kinda stupid. It's not a big deal.
If it's not a big deal then there's really no reason NOT to do any of that, should it strike your fancy :P
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A Dimness
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7/12/2016
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I'm with Anne here, having the voting system be as deliciously intricate and corrupt as it can be is definetly the way to go.
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Angus Turner
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7/12/2016
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Right. Interesting results so far. I want to address some points that were raised:
- 'This whole strategic voting is silly, stop taking things so seriously.' Friends! Is taking ridiculous things seriously not the essence of the game? More importantly, it is the essence of democracy, and passion, and justice probably I don't know
- This whole 'not wanting to switch because my career is high' I kinda get but not really. There is no evidence that having high career for the winning candidate will give you more rewards, and in any case there's probably enough time to rise ten levels back in the time until the end of the elections. Anyway, better give smaller support to a candidate with a chance of winning than larger support to a candidate with no hope of victory.
- At the time of writing a grand total of eleven voters out of forty eight non-Jenny supporters are willing to engage in strategic voting, so about a quarter (~23%). If this is indicative of anything, we don't stand much of a chance of forming a bloc. I'm going to keep the poll open at least 24 hours more, maybe things will change.
- Optimatum is puzzled by lots of Contrarians sticking to their guns. Well, my friend, one needs not be a contrarian to support The Contrarian any more than one needs to be a sex worker to support Sinning Jenny.
So, as I said, I'm going to keep this poll open for a while longer, at least 24 hours. We can't wait too long, those of us who intend to do this, or we won't have time to get our careers back to 20. And to all of you looking from the sidelines and thinking all this is ridiculous, I say this:
Friends! Where is the fun in supporting the sure winner? Only dead fish go with the flow! Wouldn't you rather change the tides at the last minute and snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Let us write the tales, lest they be written for us! Let us defy the powers that be, not the sanctioned, faux-defiance that is a vote for Jenny, but a true vote of non-confidence in the system! Let's make this happen!
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Passionario
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I support Jenny, and my Taste of Lacre has gone from 0 to 15 just from reading this thread.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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7/12/2016
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Zoe DeGeest wrote:
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.
What do you offer
What veneer of propriety or sobriety do you wish removed?
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Let me be perfectly clear. I would reject the sexy progressive ninja nun, the mustachioed general who kicks ass for the lord, and the argumentative moderate anarchist, if it meant I could vote for a mayor to deliver a social reckoning of wine and scandalous parties for London.
edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/12/2016
You are a visionary, sir!
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Magmionify
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7/12/2016
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I was going to vote for the madman in wheelchair, for as a Nocturnal, I like the black and the endless descend into madness that his arguments are. But if that means I can prevent that lover of Bazaarines of grasping the powerand putting his infatuated friends in the office, then I would bend the knee before anyone. A Talkative Rattus Faber, a Struggling Artist... Seven Hells, even a Bishop suspected of being a Squid-face I'd support!
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Kylestien
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7/12/2016
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Lady Brown: A visonary indeed. But your campaign platform does make me wonder what you offer in terms of coruppting those who wish to be. (; And how does the other party even know if that is REALLY what they want?
Still a better platform then my campaign. My plan was hold a 2 week long celebration of my election with plays like The Bell And The Candle and The Concursion of Petals followed by a invasion of the Elder Continent to gain immortality for all. Or maybe just myself.
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Lady Sapho Byron
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7/12/2016
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Kylestien wrote:
Lady Brown: A visonary indeed. But your campaign platform does make me wonder what you offer in terms of coruppting those who wish to be. (; And how does the other party even know if that is REALLY what they want?
Still a better platform then my campaign. My plan was hold a 2 week long celebration of my election with plays like The Bell And The Candle and The Concursion of Petals followed by a invasion of the Elder Continent to gain immortality for all. Or maybe just myself.
edited by Kylestien on 7/12/2016
I assume you are addressing me, Mr Kylestien, but have merely corrupted my name (good work! ;-) ).
As to the specifics of corruption, I think that is best discussed privately ... I do not wish to show all my cards at once. I am, after all, mounting a campaign that must be sustained for a whole year! I would also suggest that anyone considering being corrupted embrace the desire entirely! Finally, invasions are so bothersome, even to gain immortality. I suggest staying in London to gain immorality is a far more enjoyable approach.
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Vavakx Nonexus
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7/12/2016
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FAIR CITIZENS OF THIS MAGNIFICENT CITY, I FEAR THAT WE HAVE GATHERED HERE TO COMBAT AN INEXISTENT THREAT. I WILL NOT GO ON ABOUT THE OBVIOUS REASONS TO GO JENNY, BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS ECHO, AND IT'S IMPLICATIONS:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vavakx~~Nonexus?fromEchoId=9071347
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Fadewalker
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7/12/2016
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Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
FAIR CITIZENS OF THIS MAGNIFICENT CITY, I FEAR THAT WE HAVE GATHERED HERE TO COMBAT AN INEXISTENT THREAT. I WILL NOT GO ON ABOUT THE OBVIOUS REASONS TO GO JENNY, BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS ECHO, AND IT'S IMPLICATIONS:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vavakx~~Nonexus?fromEchoId=9071347
I'm not sure what you mean but I've checked my screenshots, this text about "latest polls" seems unchanged since the very first day of election.
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Angus Turner
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Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
FAIR CITIZENS OF THIS MAGNIFICENT CITY, I FEAR THAT WE HAVE GATHERED HERE TO COMBAT AN INEXISTENT THREAT. I WILL NOT GO ON ABOUT THE OBVIOUS REASONS TO GO JENNY, BUT I WILL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS ECHO, AND IT'S IMPLICATIONS:
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vavakx~~Nonexus?fromEchoId=9071347
As I've said, this is not the place to sway people to Jenny's cause. If you're interested in that you are welcome to go to practically every other thread in this forum, where she enjoys the vast majority of support. Heck, she enjoys the vast majority of support in this thread as well, just look at the poll. And the real, non fictitious polls place her in the lead, just as every single poll conducted in the forums showed since the very beginning of the elections.
Oh, wait. Right, you sold your vote. That's the reason for the all caps, then? You're giving us a dictated message? Fair enough, I suppose. Though I would say it's a little...excessive? Sinning Jenny is winning with overwhelming numbers and her supporters still go to the trouble of bribing voters and trying to persuade those who oppose her - and who are not going a very good job of it, if I may say so myself - to abandon their fight? Professor Sketch said it best in the bribery thread:
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That's rather like tying the legs of a week dead horse to make sure he can't outrace the steroid-pumped stallion speeding down the track.
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A Dimness
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Hey, I actually read that post by Sketch!
But yes, we don't want nuffink to do with yer bleedin' Jenny, just b____r off back ta yer fancy clothes an' yer, er, intimidatin' nuns.
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