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Would you be willing to join an anti-Jenny voting bloc?

I'm a Contrarian supporter and I would be willing to vote for the Bishop :11
I'm a Bishop supporter and I would be willing to vote for the Contrarian:10
I'm a Contrarian supporter and I'm going to vote Contrarian in any case:28
I'm a Bishop supporter and I'm going to vote Bishop in any case:18
I'm a Contrarian supporter and I'll rather Jenny win, should my candidate fail:17
I'm a Bishop supporter and I'll rather Jenny win, should my candidate fail:0
I'm a Jenny supporter and your tears are delicious:95
Angus Turner
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7/11/2016
Our hopes that the forum-frequenting elites are detached from the situation on the ground and that the silent majority has different priorities entirely have just been dashed. The situation is just as the polls predicted, and Sinning Jenny is well on her way to becoming the next mayor of London.

This, I hope you agree, is terrible. All of you who support Bishop or Contrarian surely agree that Sinning Jenny must not win, because reasons. New discoveries may sway some voters away from Jenny, but I wouldn't count on it. Our only hope, then, is to form an anti-Jenny voting bloc, united behind either The Contrarian or The Bishop. I'm not sure if that's something people are even interested in, hence the poll.

The options should be mostly self explanatory, but just to be clear, this is what they mean:

The first and second options mean you're determined to stop Jenny from getting elected, and you would be willing to unite behind the other non-Jenny candidate if that's what the anti-Jenny bloc decides.

The third and fourth options mean that you are not going to switch to the other non-Jenny candidate, either because you consider both choices that aren't your candidate equally bad or because it's your vote, damn it, and you're going to cast it for the candidate you believe in even it if achieves nothing.

The fifth and sixth options are for people who would rather see Jenny win if their own candidate fails, so they're obviously not going to join an anti-Jenny voting bloc.

The seventh option is for terrible people and should not be chosen.

This isn't the place to debate the faults and merits of Sinning Jenny as a candidate. There are other threads for that. This is a place for those not voting for her to decide if and how we should coordinate our actions . Personally, I would very much like to see the candidate that seemed from the beginning as the sure winner fail, but there's a name for someone who takes the contrary position and I'm voting for him so that's not saying much. So...Can we do this? Should we do this? Does anyone even want to? Discuss.

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Zoe DeGeest
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Posts: 104

7/11/2016
The new revelations just completely swayed me from supporting the Bishop, and it is shown that the Contrarian would rather sabotage his current campaign rather than being some ugly witch's lapdog.

I don't like Jenny but I am not seeing a good alternative now. I call for an anti-Bishop bloc myself.

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Lady Sapho Byron
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7/11/2016
Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.

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Zoe DeGeest
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7/11/2016
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.



What do you offer

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Anne Auclair
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7/11/2016
*shrugs* There's still another week. I know some players who are inactive at the moment and at least one who only really began actively campaigning (for the Contrarian) yesterday.

The problem with strategic voting is that voters are really bad at it, only a minority of players read the forum enough to coordinate, and the religious reformers backing the Bishop probably won't care for the revolutionary reform offered by the Contrarian's group.

But anyway, anyone whose actively anti-Jenny should probably jump from the Contrarian to the Bishop as the Bishop's campaign is in far better shape.

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absimiliard
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7/11/2016
Zoe DeGeest wrote:
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.



What do you offer




Sounds like corruption for the deliciously corruptible and moral rectitude for the rest.

Some of us might even qualify for both!

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Schmidt
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7/11/2016
Count me in. I'm back to Reginald's side, baby!

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Fadewalker
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7/11/2016
"I'm a Jenny supporter and your tears are delicious." LOL I love this choice, though I'm a Contrarian supporter, well, because I'm a Contrarian supporter, maybe.

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Lady Sapho Byron
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7/12/2016
Zoe DeGeest wrote:
Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.



What do you offer


What veneer of propriety or sobriety do you wish removed?


  • edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 7/12/2016

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    7/12/2016
    Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
    Zoe DeGeest wrote:
    Lady Sapho Byron wrote:
    Next year vote for me. I will only corrupt those who want to be corrupted.



    What do you offer


    What veneer of propriety or sobriety do you wish removed?


  • edited by Lady Sapho Byron on 7/12/2016

  • Let me be perfectly clear. I would reject the sexy progressive ninja nun, the mustachioed general who kicks ass for the lord, and the argumentative moderate anarchist, if it meant I could vote for a mayor to deliver a social reckoning of wine and scandalous parties for London.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/12/2016

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    ganoidyn
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    7/12/2016
    Fascinating. While poll results are drawn from a small number, it's already clear that:

    1. More Contrarian and Bishop voters are going to stick to their guns than change their vote for strategic reasons. Obviously we're not clear whether this is out of conviction of mechanical convenience, given that the more serious electors have already maxed out their careers and are now working on notability.
    2. At time of writing, exactly 0 Bishop supporters want Jenny to win even if the Bishop loses
    3. In this poll as in my straw poll, Jenny has a clear (and slightly discouraging) lead!!

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    aegisaglow
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    7/12/2016
    ganoidyn wrote:

    3. In this poll as in my straw poll, Jenny has a clear (and slightly discouraging) lead!!



    Does the revelation that the front-runner in the election is winning a poll really warrant two exclamation marks...?

    Besides, you worded that option in the funniest way.
    edited by aegisaglow on 7/12/2016

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    Optimatum
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    7/12/2016
    With the last option worded so, I could not resist.

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    Johny Topside
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    Posts: 46

    7/12/2016
    I don't hate Jenny, she's not awful. I mean, she's not February. Anyhow, while I would maybe, I guess, kinda rather Jenny over the Contrarian I decided that jumping the fence just for a mechanical reward would be cheap and against the way I rp. I'm going down with the ship, Bishop all the way.


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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/12/2016
    I don't think that there's been any sign that supporters of the winner get a bonus.

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/12/2016
    Professor Sketch wrote:
    Mordaine Barimen wrote:
    I don't think that there's been any sign that supporters of the winner get a bonus.



    Supporters of the winner get a 'Mayoral Influence,' if I'm correct, throughout the following year. No idea what that entails, but it sounds interesting.

    Everyone gets that regardless of who they supported.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/12/2016

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/12/2016
    I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/12/2016
    Mordaine Barimen wrote:
    I must have missed that announcement. Interesting, though I doubt it will be anything earth-shatteringly imbalanced.

    Everyone gets access to the Mayoral Influence, not just the winners.

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/12/2016
    Okay, that's more in line with what I was remembering. Thank you, Anne!

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/12/2016
    No, I'm positive it's suggesting that the influence is based on who wins. "Want more Bishop content? Support him!" and so on...

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