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Kylestien
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7/11/2016
With the most recent secrets revealed, I can safely say that all three of our candidates have lost any respect I may have had for any of them.

[spoiler]Jenny is even more clearly faking it and in for the secrets, The Bishop plans to publish a list of all the souless in the city, which just ain't cool, and Feburary's pretty much taken over the Contrarian's Campaign. [/spoiler]

...Can I have a "**** the election" button please? Or vote the Northbound parlimentarian in or something?
edited by Kylestien on 7/11/2016

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The Masked Felon
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7/11/2016
I do hope The Topsy King runs for mayor next year. He is a most eloquent goden.
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BillyBones
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7/11/2016
Kylestien wrote:

#VoteJack2017

I'd elect him. He'd be a pretty killer mayor.

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Kylestien
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7/11/2016
Professor Sketch wrote:
Wonderful! I hope we do get more dreadful candidates next year, though. At least one serial killer, please.
Without dreadfulness, it's just politics.


#VoteJack2017

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Diptych
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7/12/2016
Let's not get too personal in our debate over whether the saucy nun, the shouty moustache man or the other guy would be better at municipaling the cave city with the giant space crab, folks.

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Diptych
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7/11/2016
No, it's the candidates who are terrible people. Electorates are geopolitical areas containing a certain number of eligible electors... who are, themselves, terrible people.

Well, consider this a reason to Vote Doctor Taupe-Wainscot, Election 1895: "I've You've Never Done Anything, You've Never Done Anything Wrong!"

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Passionario
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7/12/2016
Jenny is Elusive, Bishop is Savage, Contrarian is Baroque. All three still have Gambits left to play.

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Amelia Syrus
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7/11/2016
Story wise, it actually makes this election really interesting. Regardless of who wins the race, we're guaranteed more information about the candidate and possibly more stories focused on their secrets or affects. We may have a story focused on the Bishop and his anti-hell campaign, we could see more stories focused on the Revolutionaries with the Contrarian, or we could have stories on Jenny and her ninja nuns. All the candidates aren't saints but it could mean more exploration of the world and I'm all for that.

Also I say Jack, Topsy King, and Feducci for candidates next year just to spice things up.

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Diptych
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7/11/2016
The Masked Felon wrote:
I do hope The Topsy King runs for mayor next year. He is a most eloquent goden.


...yeah, I'd vote for him.

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ganoidyn
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7/11/2016
"all our candidates are terrible people" sounds like the Tory leadership race after Brexit

okay I'll show myself and my Unfallen London politics out the door now

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Hark DeGaul
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7/12/2016
Year of the Dawn Machine:
Dark Spectacled Admiral VS Voracious Diplomat VS ... I don't know. A rubbery man who lost his way and ended up on the podium?
Of course the rubbery would win.

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Catherine Raymond
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7/11/2016
I'd like to see the Implacable Detective run for Mayor next year. There's a woman who would run London with the iron fist it deserves!

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Fadewalker
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7/11/2016
"All Our Electorates Are Terrible People." Maybe that is why our dear Masters allow us to choose a mayor.
And all candidates should look awful in an Neathy Running for Governor, I suppose.

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A Dimness
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7/12/2016
CALLNXW wrote:
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
I mean, from a purely scientific point of view, something is wet when there's water particles (H2O) attached to it. Water particles aren't actually attached to eachother, they kind of just float around doing their own thing, being all cool.
So no, water isn't wet, something with water on it is wet.

Nice try, but hydrogen bonds itself between the water particles

But... Hydrogen isn't water.

Also, back on the subject of the election.
I see why people favour Jenny above the Contrarian, but to me a leader of good moral fibre is much more important than an effective but thoroughly amoral leader who abuses her position to further her own interests. The Contrarian might be a puppet, but at least he's a puppet who's trying to struggle against his strings and is extraordinarily reasonable when it comes to matters of anarchy and government.

I support the Contrarian in the hopes that he'll do more good than his superiors can do evil, because he's the only one who is reasonably capable of doing good AND solely interested in it, the Bishop being too blunt and Jenny being too self-involved. But that's just my take on things.

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Màiread
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7/11/2016
Next year seems like the perfect opportunity to see more from the Barbed Wit. By which I mean I would like to marry her, but also that I think she would be an excellent candidate for mayor. There's the Mercies, too, but I don't know that London could handle that much raw unfettered charisma. I would also very much vote for the Last Constable, especially if she was wearing a false moustache.

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Passionario
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7/11/2016
Kylestien wrote:
With the most recent secrets revealed, I can safely say that all three of our candidates have lost any respect I may have had for any of them.

Given the gameplay mechanics, any mayoral candidate has to have multiple dirty secrets to be eligible. Hustings are no place for saints.

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th8827
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7/12/2016
We need a Docks candidate next year.

Shipwreck Joe for mayor!

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Barse
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7/12/2016
I'd vote for Penstock as Mayor if he made being able to sell back lodgings part of his manifesto.

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CALLNXW
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7/12/2016
Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
I mean, from a purely scientific point of view, something is wet when there's water particles (H2O) attached to it. Water particles aren't actually attached to eachother, they kind of just float around doing their own thing, being all cool.
So no, water isn't wet, something with water on it is wet.

Nice try, but hydrogen bonds itself between the water particles


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    Beau Mercy
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    7/11/2016
    We have a bishop running against a prostitute on a browser game. It doesn't take a psychic to see who the runaway winner will be in a race like that.

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    MrBurnside
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    Infinity Simulacrum wrote:
    I mean, from a purely scientific point of view, something is wet when there's water particles (H2O) attached to it. Water particles aren't actually attached to eachother, they kind of just float around doing their own thing, being all cool.
    So no, water isn't wet, something with water on it is wet.

    Surface tension could be described as H2O being attached to H2O. Just, y'know, not very attached.
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    CALLNXW
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    7/12/2016
    Water is 2/3 hydrogen, so conversely, hydrogen is 150% water. Sheesh, the education these days, I swear.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    7/12/2016
    Yes, in the end it's mostly a matter of personal preference. London is highly unlikely to be destroyed by the results, regardless of who wins.

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    CALLNXW
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    7/12/2016
    Professor Sketch wrote:
    CALLNXW wrote:
    All of water is wet


    But water isn't wet - things that have water on them are wet.

    I don't know why I felt like mentioning this.

    Water has water on it.


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    Kylestien
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    7/11/2016
    BillyBones wrote:
    Kylestien wrote:

    #VoteJack2017

    I'd elect him. He'd be a pretty killer mayor.


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    Mr Sables
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    7/11/2016
    Amelia Syrus wrote:
    Also I say Jack, Topsy King, and Feducci for candidates next year just to spice things up.



    That would be pretty interesting, actually . . .

    . . . is it weird I want the Firebrand as a candidate, though? We have some companions that would be fascinating to see expanded, such as Lettice, the Affable Spy, and the Talkative Rat . . . well, maybe not the rat . . . rats probably vote en masse, so his opponents wouldn't stand a chance. Well, it won't be long before we have a post asking for potential candidates, then five polls to discern which three it should be, at least it this year's forum activity stands as a precedent XD
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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/11/2016
    If nothing else, Jenny blackmailing the city into a Vake Grand Hunt is an magnificent sight. Pitchforks everywhere.

    My personal candidates for next year is Lyme, Madame Shoshanna, and Monsieur Pleat. We really need some skeletons in the closet for Lyme. Plus, instead of corruption, we get brainwashing, and I want more detail on Shoshanna's little goat.

    #MrCrapper2017

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    7/12/2016
    Failbetter Games forums: The one place I know of where people will go from talking about fictional politics to discussing the in-depth philosophy and science of whether or not water is wet, without any break inbetween.

    On a more related note, I'd love to see the Bishop of St. Fiacre's and/or the Last Constable as candidates for next year. God, that would be a difficult decision.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/12/2016

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    Hazel
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    7/13/2016
    The Implacable Detective is on my wishlist of candidates, as is the Wry Functionary. Dr Orthos has also crossed my mind but I'm not sure about that. Feducci might also be amusing.

    I am basically looking at the amusingly ruthless.

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    Parabuteo
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    7/17/2016
    I have made it clear my position is that the best place to cast your vote is: into the sky, aflame, in a desperate attempt to preserve some illumination. Or down a well to try and fill the lurking void, for all the good it will do you.

    But I would completely come around on the merits of the democratic process in a second -- FRACTIONS OF A SECOND -- if the Topsy King were to run. He's a goden most capering, and frankly, he deserves anything he wants, the poor old fellow. Be kind to my friend, vote Topsy King in 1895.

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    Passionario
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    7/16/2016
    Seeing how much London loves its scarlet-colored candidates, maybe it's time for a Captivating Mayor.

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    The Masked Felon
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    7/17/2016
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I will second this suggestion that Your Aunt run for office.


    Whose aunt? Mine? Yours? Everyone's? I'm afraid there's just not enough room in London for that many aunts.
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    Passionario
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    7/12/2016
    Mr. Huffam vs Madame Shoshana vs F.F. Gerbrandt.

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    Parelle
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    7/12/2016
    The Last Constable. She might be good, and she'd probably end up dead.

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    James McCreedy
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    7/13/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Some good candidates for the next election could be his Amused Lordship and the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. It would be interesting to see his Amused Lordship involved in a major story that doesn't involve the Mountain and I'm curious as to what his vision for London is. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is a character who, much like Jenny and the Contrarian, could really do with some fleshing out, and who would also be perfect for an election story (plus, she's a lady and the next election should have at least one lady).


    Oh my goodness, this is such a great idea. I'd love to see him run, and seeing his vision would certainly be interesting. He's always so jovial and yet such an astute guy, I wonder if he'd want to pass that on to his citizens...
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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/12/2016
    Julias Stokes wrote:
    Hey, the Bishop of St. Fiacre's isn't a horrible person! How about him against Feducci! They're both from the Elder Continent!


    The Bishop would probably win in a landslide.

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    Guanine
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    7/11/2016
    Jenny's revelation isn't any big surprise, it is politics after all and those of the Neath are dirtier than most, of course the prospective mayor is going to want to get something out of their position (or even a whole lot out of their position).

    The Bishop's is interesting to me, though, because (in true Bishop of Southwark Fashion) it could have a million different consequences, many of which are impossible to foresee. London is a place where spirifers skulk in hospitals to steal the souls of invalids - getting a public list of legal soul trades would do a lot to help people who have had their souls straight-up stolen from them. On the other hand, public discrepancies between who has sold their soul and who has gotten it back would mean a lot more attention than a certain shepherd's committee wants or is ready for...
    edited by Guanine on 7/11/2016

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    Amelia Syrus
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    7/11/2016
    To be fair, there's a lot of potential candidates for next year. Or really a lot of characters that deserve some exploration of their stories. The three candidates for this year are getting just that and it's nice to see all three are getting more exposure too. Even if all three are terrible in their own ways.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    7/12/2016
    What I mean is that FBG is not likely to be destroying Fallen London anytime soon. Therefore, none of the candidates will have the power to destroy it with their actions. Vote for who you wish.

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    Kylestien
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    7/12/2016
    BillyBones wrote:
    Wait, what. Hydrogen can't be 150% water, it's an entirely separate element.
    To keep it on topic, vote Contrarian, he's a little less bad.
    edited by BillyBones on 7/12/2016


    HE'S a little less bad. Feburary ain't.

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/12/2016
    Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
    Let's not get too personal in our debate over whether the saucy nun, the shouty moustache man or the other guy would be better at municipaling the cave city with the giant space crab, folks.

    Hear, hear!

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    A Dimness
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    7/12/2016
    I mean, from a purely scientific point of view, something is wet when there's water particles (H2O) attached to it. Water particles aren't actually attached to eachother, they kind of just float around doing their own thing, being all cool.
    So no, water isn't wet, something with water on it is wet.

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    Little The
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    7/11/2016
    I don't really see the candidates as terrible, even after this. The Bishop is incompetent if he's only now noticing the infernal backing, and he's still going to be playing into Hell's hand, but he's genuine. The Contrarian is getting strongarmed by terrible people, but he's doing his best to resist. And while you see corruption, I see evidence that Jenny's a shrewd politician. The election isn't a total wash... yet.

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    Professor Strix
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    7/11/2016
    Beau Mercy wrote:
    We have a bishop running against a prostitute on a browser game. It doesn't take a psychic to see who the runaway winner will be in a race like that.


    The Contrarian, of course. He is a troll that picks sides he doesn't even believe in just for the lolz, and in the end gets nothing done (but people hating him). He is the internet incarnate.

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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
    * Defaces Cathedrals
    * Doesn't Have The Decency To Stay Dead For Even A Week
    * Pretty sure he's like Passionario, but for the Presbyterate.


    1. I'm pretty sure that's on the same level as jaywalking as far as villainous things in Fallen London go.
    2. That describes most of us
    3. Can't we wait for him to actually do something Passionario-esque before we hate him for it? :P
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    Catherine Raymond
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    7/11/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Amelia Syrus wrote:
    Also I say Jack, Topsy King, and Feducci for candidates next year just to spice things up.



    That would be pretty interesting, actually . . .

    . . . is it weird I want the Firebrand as a candidate, though? We have some companions that would be fascinating to see expanded, such as Lettice, the Affable Spy, and the Talkative Rat . . . well, maybe not the rat . . . rats probably vote en masse, so his opponents wouldn't stand a chance. Well, it won't be long before we have a post asking for potential candidates, then five polls to discern which three it should be, at least it this year's forum activity stands as a precedent XD


    Jack is gone, no? (At least for some of us.) But Feducci is a good candidate, if his foreign birth doesn't disqualify him.

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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    RandomWalker wrote:
    Jasper vs Frank! With Clarence as the dark horse candidate.


    Yes! More Clarence please Big Grin
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    Gul al-Ahlaam
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    7/11/2016
    Carrywell would be an ideal candidate! She's a scientist and a surgeon of great prowess and acclaim, she's worked on the cutting edge in the study of frost-moths and red honey and all that fascinating esoterica, she runs a state-of-the-art medical facility, and she's got a certain kind of... political experience. Perhaps certain Londoners know her better than they think, is all I'm saying. [spoiler]Well, maybe a little more than that. How high was your Having Recurring Dreams: A Game of Chess quality when you visited her?[/spoiler]

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    CALLNXW
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    7/12/2016
    Unless it's the top-water, then it's only got water under the water and in it.

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    7/12/2016
    All of water is wet

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/11/2016
    Kaigen, it seems to me that it's solidifying her future power base and also providing material to the anti-Vake battlenuns for future use.

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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    Plus the Bishop is apparently stealing poetry. BAD poetry XD

    But anyway, right from the beginning it was three horribly unsuited candidates campaigning for a position of no importance, which is why I decided early on that my character was voting for Sinning Jenny purely out of spite :P
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    Anne Auclair
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    7/11/2016
    Did Jenny just commit treason? :P

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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    But terrible people are so much more interesting :P
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    absimiliard
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    7/12/2016
    No kidding Estelle. There are so very many of us who really hate Feducci. I don't even think we all hate him for the same reasons -- but boy is he really disliked amongst most of the people I know.

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    Oliver
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    7/12/2016
    Honestly them being horrible people just adds realism to be honest.
    I'd love to see someone dead run next year, or at least someone soulless!

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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/12/2016
    For what it is worth, these two traits aren't particularly negative here.

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    MrBurnside
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    7/13/2016
    Hazel wrote:
    The Implacable Detective is on my wishlist of candidates, as is the Wry Functionary. Dr Orthos has also crossed my mind but I'm not sure about that. Feducci might also be amusing.

    I am basically looking at the amusingly ruthless.

    I'm hoping for the Wry Functionary myself. I love the idea of Sir Humphrey being forced into the spotlight.
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    Shadowcthuhlu
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    7/16/2016
    She could run her entire campaign behind curtains in a divan.

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    Reande Despeydes
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    7/16/2016
    I kind of want to see the Widow and the Duchess go against each other, if only because they're two of the most powerful women in Fallen London, and I'd like to know who'd come up on top if they were to go at each other.

    I also want to see the Topsy King run for something just because I love his accent and think it'd be great if all of London got to know the Flit's most lovable crime lord.

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    Hark DeGaul
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    7/16/2016
    Passionario wrote:
    Seeing how much London loves its scarlet-colored candidates, maybe it's time for a Captivating Mayor.

    I think it's illegal for royal family members to stand in politics. Certainly the Empress can't vote and I doubt the Masters can either.

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/16/2016
    Robin Alexander wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    From a good government standpoint, shouldn't we be nominating people who are only debatably evil? :P



    I guess it depends on the kind of evil?

    Arguably, people of dubious characters make better politicians. They can make difficult decisions, be direct, do things that a more noble person might not desire . . . it's hard to elaborate upon without going into real-life politics, and - certainly - less corrupt governments and pure leaders often exist, but sometimes an 'evil' leader can do more for their people. In terms of fiction, I'd reminded of Lord Vetinari, who's cropped up in reference a few times during the debate: he's evil, he kills people, he won't allow a democracy . . . the city has never worked better.

    Yeah, Vetinari is debatably evil, as you can honestly debate him. Like, the Topsy-King might be a mad villain, but he's also a nice fellow.

    I mean we should avoid candidates who are obviously evil, characters who clearly lack good intentions. Like, say, a certain lady best known for red honey addiction, casual cannibalism, and a string of dead admirers.

    I also think we should avoid Claymen/Rubbery men, because it's already been covered that the people of London largely despise them, so they wouldn't be elected. However, characters like the Captivating Princess, the Claymen, and the Rubberies can have supporting roles during an election, like the Manager of the RB and February.

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    7/17/2016
    I will second this suggestion that Your Aunt run for office.

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/16/2016
    Reande Despeydes wrote:
    I kind of want to see the Widow and the Duchess go against each other, if only because they're two of the most powerful women in Fallen London, and I'd like to know who'd come up on top if they were to go at each other.

    An election is not the right arena for their competition though. They're both magicians and spy masters who compete in the underworld. Both are incredibly secretive and would want to avoid the unnecessary attention something like an election would bring. Duchess verses the Widow would be a terrific plot for an Exceptional Story, but it doesn't work well with this festival.

    Reande Despeydes wrote:
    I also want to see the Topsy King run for something just because I love his accent and think it'd be great if all of London got to know the Flit's most lovable crime lord.

    Seeing how he chooses to communicate his message would be a treat in of itself.
    edited by Anne Auclair on 7/16/2016

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    Shadowcthuhlu
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    7/16/2016
    I wonder how her siblings will feel about that.

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    Shadowcthuhlu
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    7/16/2016
    How about seeing the Duchess and The Widow go at each other and some third candidate trying to avoid the worst of the carnage?

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    Zoe DeGeest
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    7/11/2016
    Kukapetal wrote:
    But terrible people are so much more interesting :P



    Vaguely terrible people is not interesting!

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    RandomWalker
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    7/11/2016
    Jasper vs Frank! With Clarence as the dark horse candidate.
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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    Zoe DeGeest wrote:
    Kukapetal wrote:
    But terrible people are so much more interesting :P



    Vaguely terrible people is not interesting!


    But the election will flesh them out. That's interesting.

    Then again, I might be full of crap since I find the most interesting candidate of the three we have now to be the Bishop, and he's the least terrible :P
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    th8827
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    7/11/2016
    When was all this revealed? I don't see anything new...

    I have been living on the Slow Bost since reachingFixer 20, though, building up Weeping Scars for Seeking. I hope that I did not miss an event...

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    Mordaine Barimen
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    7/11/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    When was all this revealed? I don't see anything new...

    New text has been added to the three Flash lay endings and the three Investigation endings today.

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/11/2016
    Guanine wrote:
    Jenny's revelation isn't any big surprise, it is politics after all and those of the Neath are dirtier than most, of course the prospective mayor is going to want to get something out of their position (or even a whole lot out of their position).

    The Bishop's is interesting to me, though, because (in true Bishop of Southwark Fashion) it could have a million different consequences, many of which are impossible to foresee. London is a place where spirifers skulk in hospitals to steal the souls of invalids - getting a public list of legal soul trades would do a lot to help people who have had their souls straight-up stolen from them. On the other hand, public discrepancies between who has sold their soul and who has gotten it back would mean a lot more attention than a certain shepherd's committee wants or is ready for...
    edited by Guanine on 7/11/2016

    Also, quite a few people in high society and the legal profession have their soul "abstracted" in order to essentially become career sociopaths. If your lawyer doesn't have a soul you'd probably want to know. Also, there's the shame and peer pressure aspect. If everyone knew you just sold your soul you'd probably be very embarrassed and find a lot of people disappointed in you. If you were concerned with your reputation you'd avoid this.

    This actually gives us a glimpse of just how the Bishop will carry on his campaign against the Brass Embassy once in office.

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    Bertrand Leonidas Poole
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    7/11/2016
    Reginald is the least terrible of them, though.
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    phryne
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    7/11/2016
    Having just read the new info on Jenny, all I can say is "Bravo!"
    I really like this girl. She's doing exactly what I would... wink

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    7/12/2016
    And also in it, like a sponge.

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    th8827
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    7/12/2016
    Here is my interpretation of all of the candidates.

    Jenny seems to be Bohemian/Criminal. She is using blackmail to fund her campaign, meaning that the regular, non-player people in London probably don't really support her.

    The Contrarian seems to be Society/Revolutionary. He is not really in charge of his campaign, and seems to be a puppet that the revolutionaries will use if he wins.

    The Bishop is Church/Hell. He has found out about his infernal backers and seems to be purging them. He also wants to publish a list of Soulless, which may be good or bad, depending on why he wants to do it.

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    Julius Stokes
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    7/12/2016
    Hey, the Bishop of St. Fiacre's isn't a horrible person! How about him against Feducci! They're both from the Elder Continent!

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    Grenem
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    7/11/2016
    Kukapetal wrote:
    Zoe DeGeest wrote:
    Kukapetal wrote:
    But terrible people are so much more interesting :P



    Vaguely terrible people is not interesting!


    But the election will flesh them out. That's interesting.

    Then again, I might be full of crap since I find the most interesting candidate of the three we have now to be the Bishop, and he's the least terrible :P

    Least terrible? public shaming of people who sold their souls? Sure, his support base could be called the least terrible, but his personal actions compared to the contrarians' are unfavorable in his favor, in my opinion. The only reason the contrarian is terrible is the revolution is trying to make him into their puppet, and he's doing a good job of resisting- including, admittedly, channeling the revolution's funds straight into his rivals' campaigns... so maybe i should be going "don't vote for the contrarian". it's clearly something he's plotting on doing.
    edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016

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    Amelia Syrus
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    7/11/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    She's not really a Londoner though...and being Mayor would take her away from her present projects.

    Carrywell is not a tomb colonist yet she's in the colonies. I guess??? Besides I'm not sure if she would be willing to toss her hat for a campaign or not.


    Professor Sketch wrote:
    So, am I missing something? Why does everyone hate Feducci so much, exactly? I thought he seemed like quite a polite character, but it's possible there's more on him outside of the Dangerous storyline that I've missed, since that's the only place I've encountered him.


    I don't know if there is anything outside of the Dangerous storyline. But from that alone...
    [spoiler]He's a cannibal who eats those that truly die in Black Ribbon fights and a cheating @sshole that rides in on a horse with a lance when you challenge him. Besides that, he invites you to dinner, seems to be doing nothing suspicious when you spy on him, and is an overall pleasant character. I don't even know if cannibal is really a point against him when there's an exclusive club that invites cannibalism anyway.[/spoiler]
    he seems like the perfect voice of society if you ignore the bandages.
    edited by Amelia Syrus on 7/11/2016

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    Bertrand Leonidas Poole
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    7/11/2016
    * Defaces Cathedrals
    * Doesn't Have The Decency To Stay Dead For Even A Week
    * Pretty sure he's like Passionario, but for the Presbyterate.
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    Bertrand Leonidas Poole
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    7/11/2016
    Are you kidding me?
    Feducci is even more of a terrible person than Jenny.
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    A Dimness
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    7/11/2016
    I support the election of a random rubbery man next year, just imagine how confused it would be! Territhree!
    On a more serious note, I do thing the Jovial Contrarian would be a good candidate, even if February has the reins. He's one of the few Anarchists who are both aware of the end goals of the Anarchists and don't agree with said end goals, so in my book he's golden.
    edited by Infinity Simulacrum on 7/11/2016

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    Gul al-Ahlaam
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    7/11/2016
    Personally, I'd like to nominate the Good Doctor Carrywell for candidacy in next year's election. London needs a ruthless and pragmatic leader (that is to say, a conniving one) in these dangerous times. Someone with real (that is to say, imaginary) political experience. Someone who can guide with a strong, authoritative hand (that is to say, one which slays as easily as cholera). And there is no better choice (indeed, perhaps no choice at all). ^_~


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    Amelia Syrus
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    7/11/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Who is Carrywell?

    She's a character that appears in Ambition: Nemesis.

    [spoiler] She's a doctor at the Grand Sanatorium, a place where the mentally ill tomb colonists are sent for "research" and to be studied. Using that very loosely. Also seems to have a rather obvious tie to the Great Game, considering most of her "patients" are either former spies or prisoners in a way. That was my interpretation of it at least. [/spoiler]

    Could be interesting to have Carrywell as a candidate just to expand more of that story. I feel like Ambition: Nemesis barely scratched the surface on what she's capable of doing.

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    Amelia Syrus
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    7/11/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    All the current candidates were very public figures even before they ran for office. Jenny, the Bishop, and the Contrarian were well known to the public and a big part of high society. They also had social bases - Jenny has her Bohemians, Bishop the Church, Contrarian the Revolutionaries. So, the best future candidates would be public figures as well with deep connections to one or more groups.

    Or just characters that aren't exclusive to fate locked content. I would say ambitions too but I think about 2 of the 3 candidates have more content in at least 1 ambition.

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    Amelia Syrus
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    7/11/2016
    Gul al-Ahlaam wrote:
    Carrywell would be an ideal candidate! She's a scientist and a surgeon of great prowess and acclaim, she's worked on the cutting edge in the study of frost-moths and red honey and all that fascinating esoterica, she runs a state-of-the-art medical facility, and she's got a certain kind of... political experience. Perhaps certain Londoners know her better than they think, is all I'm saying. snip

    I had a feeling I was missing some information about Carrywell. Thank you.
    [spoiler]And I unfortunately had A Game of Chess at 1 when I saw her. Ugh I wish I knew that before.[/spoiler]
    edited by Amelia Syrus on 7/11/2016

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    Blaine Davidson
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    7/11/2016
    Where are people finding the new secrets? I'm not seeing any additional options in the Elections tab.

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    Sara Hysaro
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    7/11/2016
    There's new text at the end of the Investigations and Flash Lays.

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    Kukapetal
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    7/12/2016
    lol, "the other guy." That's a pretty apt description XD
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    winrarphile
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    7/12/2016
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    Yes, in the end it's mostly a matter of personal preference. London is highly unlikely to be destroyed by the results, regardless of who wins.



    I mean, the results probably won't cause London to be destroyed, but there's a more than marginal possibility it may be destroyed by the actions of said candidates.

    When picking between evils, pick the one you haven't tried before.

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    Bertrand Leonidas Poole
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    7/12/2016
    Which means vote for the moral man!
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    7/12/2016
    Thank you for a chuckle among all the atypical rancor.

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    Fadewalker
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    7/11/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    When was all this revealed? I don't see anything new...

    I have been living on the Slow Bost since reachingFixer 20, though, building up Weeping Scars for Seeking. I hope that I did not miss an event...


    It was revealed only a couple of hours ago. You can find the new stuff in Flash Lay and Investigation, or the sticky thread.

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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/11/2016
    Don't let that stop you, Anne. Popularity's never an issue; everyone and their mother hates Feducci as well, but no one complains about him being in power. wink

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    Anne Auclair
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    7/11/2016
    Some good candidates for the next election could be his Amused Lordship and the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner. It would be interesting to see his Amused Lordship involved in a major story that doesn't involve the Mountain and I'm curious as to what his vision for London is. The Dauntless Temperance Campaigner is a character who, much like Jenny and the Contrarian, could really do with some fleshing out, and who would also be perfect for an election story (plus, she's a lady and the next election should have at least one lady).

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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/11/2016
    Spoil-sport. I will sic Jasper and Frank on you upset

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    7/11/2016
    I fully agree with OP's sentiment. Because of this, I have created a topic for the richer members of the electoral community to participate in the art of bribery, via Serpentine Arrangements. Thank you for your attention.

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    Estelle Knoht
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    7/11/2016
    Professor Sketch wrote:
    So, am I missing something? Why does everyone hate Feducci so much, exactly? I thought he seemed like quite a polite character, but it's possible there's more on him outside of the Dangerous storyline that I've missed, since that's the only place I've encountered him.


    It's probably just irritation speaking, due to how grindy the duels are.

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    Kukapetal
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    7/11/2016
    Professor Sketch wrote:
    So, am I missing something? Why does everyone hate Feducci so much, exactly? I thought he seemed like quite a polite character, but it's possible there's more on him outside of the Dangerous storyline that I've missed, since that's the only place I've encountered him.


    I've always wondered this myself. I mean, sure he's a creep, but he doesn't seem much worse than all the other creeps in the game
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    7/15/2016
    Kylestien wrote:
    With the most recent secrets revealed, I can safely say that all three of our candidates have lost any respect I may have had for any of them.

    [spoiler]Jenny is even more clearly faking it and in for the secrets, The Bishop plans to publish a list of all the souless in the city, which just ain't cool, and Feburary's pretty much taken over the Contrarian's Campaign. [/spoiler]

    ...Can I have a &quot**** the election&quot button please? Or vote the Northbound parlimentarian in or something?
    edited by Kylestien on 7/11/2016


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    Anne Auclair
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    7/16/2016
    From a good government standpoint, shouldn't we be nominating people who are only debatably evil? :P

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    Reande Despeydes
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    7/17/2016
    Perhaps there's actually just a single aunt who every single one of us happens to share, and we're all a part of some really big extended family. Or maybe the Aunt is really just a title for whoever regularly inconveniences us with...whatever, and is not our actual family member. I still hold that the Topsy King would make a great candidate though, and I'd probably vote for him over most others. Though I have yet to figure out his potential platform. Maybe more funding for the culinary applications of rats?

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