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New Festival: Election

Absintheuse Moderator Posts: 348 7/4/2016	Delicious friends, the time has come: Election begins today! “A hustings has been erected in Hastings Square. Banners festoon the lamplit streets. A Sable-liveried civil servant from the Ministry of Public Decency bellows an announcement.” You are invited to participate in the city's first official Election. The Election is free and is open to all players. It will begin today, Monday 4th July and end on the 18th July. Halfway through, we'll announce which candidate is in the lead. Choose a candidate, and campaign! Gather Election Resources, and raise your Election Career Level to increase their support! Join the electoral efforts now through the "An Election! London Must Decide!" storylet, to explore the three candidates up for the 1894 Election: Sinning Jenny, The Bishop of Southwark, and The Jovial Contrarian. The elected Mayor will reign for one year, after which another election will be held. The winning candidate will have a Mayoral influence in your Opportunity Deck until next year's election, so consider who you support carefully. We cannot wait to see who you will choose, delicious friends...
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Flyte Administrator Posts: 671 7/5/2016	It might be useful to say a bit about how we think these days when we design (or redesign) a festival. We generally try to implement something like a minimum viable product in the first year – the amount of content we think the design absolutely needs in order to work or very slightly more, but not everything we'd eventually like to include in the event. This makes it much easier for us to find writing resource around our other commitments (Zubmariner, EF stories, Secret Projects, etc). It also makes it simpler for us to change the way things work in future years in response to feedback. We've seen some complaints about imbalances in the various electoral careers: Campaigners and Agitators both have one optimal grind that gets both campaign resources they need, while Fixers don't. I get the impression that some people would like us to resolve this by adding an equivalent grind for Fixers, which would be pretty straightforward – we could make some adjustments to cases, or perhaps add a new heist. But that would actually take us further away from how in future years we want the election to work. In the longer term we'd actually like to make careers more asymmetrical, and provide mechanical incentives for everyone to explore more of the content – rather than giving each career a single optimal grind. We'll be giving Fixers a way to exploit their surplus Public Attention when we implement campaign resource trade ins later in the week. It's likely that we'll implement significantly more asymmetries in future years. One final thing, about tone. I've been a part of this community for long enough that I'm able to read thoroughly intemperate posts with equanimity, and even appreciate the enthusiasm that often lies behind them. But I think they have a couple of unfortunate effects on the community as a whole. It's been suggested to me that they sometimes make visiting the forums a unpleasant experience for newer or less mechanically oriented players, and I think that's true; but I think they also play a part in shaping newcomers' expectations about the degree of civility they need to display to one another, and as someone who originally joined this community in part because of how nice people were to each other, I care about that even more. (I went a really good conference talk by Riot Games on community norms that I'd like to link to, but can't a generally accessible version online – there's a bunch of interesting stuff in this interview, though, and it touches on the subject briefly.)
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 7/12/2016	In case this is for some reason unclear: if you report a bug, it is not then ok to exploit it four hundred and twenty six times. It is perhaps not wrong - but is probably unwise - to complain on the forum when the proceeds of said serial exploit go missing. Matter's settled, folks! No need for a pile-on. Please forgive the interruption and resume your rhetoric, vote-rigging, blackmail, bribery, and jerrymandering!
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/18/2016	I'll admit I'm looking forward to the end of the festival - to see who wins and what the festivities are like, but also so I can relax a little after keeping an eye on all the forum debates! My prediction: whoever wins will discover just how little power municipal government actually has, faced with both Parliament and the Bazaar, and will spend the next year advancing the revolution/protecting the poor/taking the fight to Hell by debating over what night the dustbins should be emptied. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	[spoiler]ON CAREERS: Campaigners only need to write Compelling Short Stories to advance (Public Attention and Convincing Rhetoric). Alternatively, you can gain Public Attention via Talk of the Town, or you can do a Flash Lay. Recommended if you are a rich, end-game player that wants to progress in the election quickly, since you can burn Favour in High Places to write Short Stories quickly. Agitators only need to do Flash Lay to advance (Public Attention and Dirty Secrets) Do Flash Lays, forever. Pretty nice if you are poor. Highly recommended if you are not a PoSI. Fixers need to do both because they need (Convincing Rhetoric) from Short Stories / Investigation and (Dirty Secrets) from Flash Lay. Slower progress than the other two, but you gain a better Making Waves-generating option that only use Public Attention, so you gain Notability faster than the other two factions. Recommended for PoSI who isn't in a hurry. ON GIFTS: You are eligible for a 30 Fate-item for free, once. Mutton Island Account: +1 Respectable, +8 Persuasive, +4 Shadowy (50 Fate, Weapon, 2nd Best Persuasive Weapon) Seven-Times-Exiled Parliamentarian's Guide to Electioneering: +1 Bizarre, +8 Watchful, +6 Shadowy (40 Fate, Weapon, tied for Best Watchful) A Redoubtable Dame-Harbinger: +1 Respectable, +8 Watchful (30 Fate + Bishop only, Rat-Squad is better) An Enfranchised Anchoress: +1 Dreaded, +8 Dangerous (30 Fate + Sinning Jenny only, Rat-Squad is better) Reactionary Tomb Colonist: +1 Bizarre, +8 Persuasive (30 Fate + Contrarian only, 2nd best Persuasive Pet) A Polythreme Drinking Vessel: +1 Bizarre, +8 Persuasive (30 Fate, Agitator only, weapon) A Poisoned Pen: +1 Dreaded, +8 Dangerous (30 Fate, Fixer only, weapon) Wax-sealed Boots: +5 Watchful (30 Fate, Campaginer only, best Watchful shoes) A Venomous Caricaturist: (20 Fate, +6 Watchful, +3 Dangerous, fun intro) A Pre-Lapsarian Speaking Trumpet: (10 Fate, Weapon, +4 Persuasive, -1 Shadowy, fun intro) [/spoiler] Information about all the stats and min-maxing gameplay behind spoilers, so people get a bit more of a choice whether they want to play to optimise or not. edited by babelfishwars on 7/4/2016 Edit: Rewritten with a more balanced view and less temper tantrum. edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/9/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: Robin Alexander wrote: To take your example, it's the difference between paying two homeless men to fight and two homeless men choosing to box for sport (setting up their own rings, taking bets, in control of the situation, volunteering to do it, etc.) If they have the wherewithal to do all of that, how are they homeless? This is surprisingly hard to reply to and remain calm . . . Homelessness is an unfortunate state brought about by unfortunate circumstances. You or I could easily become homeless, should bad luck befall us, and it doesn't mean that we are any less intelligent, have less initiative, or as less skillful as a person with a home. Many homeless people play instruments, participate in volunteer work, sell magazines ("Big Issue", for example) . . . they aren't foolish people. . . . Forgive me, but such implications have made me disinclined to follow the further points. It'd probably be too far off-topic anyway, and I imagine other members will have plenty of intelligent and interesting counter-arguments. I would simply advise against generalising about the misfortunes of a group of people in future: none of us have a right to judge the homeless. Edit: To heck with it: Dubinee Finnat wrote: 'Helps pay for their education' kind of says it all. 'Prefers the profession to others out there...' Such as corporate lawyer, plastic surgeon, architect, CEO, senator, graphic designer, actuary? I think not. More like (as you say) shop clerk, waitress, or call centre operator. As the quote says, it's a 'choice' for those who have very few choices. It's not about enjoying the acts. I enjoy many 'acts' myself (I'm not going to go into that), but not with just any stranger who happens to turn up with the requisite amount of cash. That's a pretty basic human choice, isn't it? And it's sold as a commodity because otherwise you can't pay for your education, when that education should be a basic right. A choice between education or choosing your own sex partners isn't really much of a choice. You are literally applying your own standard to a group of people. Not all of us aspire to be lawyers or doctors, just as some people are happy to work in shops or call centres, and others want to work as sex workers . . . you cannot judge them by what you would or wouldn't do, because these people are not you. They are individuals with their own ambitions and dreams and desires. Please do not make it seem that there's an academic hierarchy, with anyone not at the 'top' of said hierarchy as a lesser human being. edited by Robin Alexander on 7/12/2016
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 7/12/2016	Schmidt wrote: I woke this morning to find all of my stockpiled convincing rhetoric and public attention had evaporated, leaving me with nothing. Previously, I had more than enough to finish my campaign grind. But now nothing. Also, my stash of over 4,000 echoes evaporated as well, and even if I sell things, I gain no cash. Needless to say, this is distressing and a report has been sent. That is distressing. And mysterious! I wonder what *could* have happened to the vast store of election resources that you accrued by exploiting a bug on the mobile app 426 consecutive times? But fear not! Failbetter will not sleep until we've got to the bottom of this. I'll have a dig down the back of the sofa. (For serious, don't do this. Fixing serial exploitation of bugs takes up time we could have spent making new content)
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/11/2016	I can't believe the Calendar Council killed the Contrarian and replaced him with a more pliant double shaped by Rubbery flesh-crafting. Still, it's less surprising than the fact that the Bishop willingly gave himself over to Abstraction. I heard his last words before his soul left his body were "Damn it all; there are worse places than Dublin." Well, Jenny still has my vote, despite the revelation that she's actually an automaton constructed from Jack-of-Smiles' old knives. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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MrHarley Posts: 6 7/13/2016	What I am missing here is talk about why people had their characters pick the candidate they picked (rather than this... far too heated debate as if this was some kind of real ethical choice that affects real people? I mean, come on). But maybe I can find that in some other topic? -- William Harley ~ a writer and a libertine
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CALLNXW Posts: 116 7/15/2016	VOTE BISHOP -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Call%20Now
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/13/2016	Once again, the mayor probably isn't going to have that much of an effect beyond a card or two. Jenny: "You have a goat? Get blackmailed." / "You are poor? Have some free wine." Bishop: "You have a soul, crusade tax!" / "You don't have a soul and I published it, take some menace!" Contrarian: "Luminosity tax!" / "Feburary's running around taxing people, I am funneling her money back to you" -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/12/2016	Great Odin's beard, people. I have a day job to get to! At least do me the service of taking your acrimonious debates to the off-topic forum, if not to PMs or emails! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	I am undecided, bribe me now -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Chris Gardiner Administrator Posts: 539 7/5/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: Double actions, double clickings (because ???) Incorrect game instruction text (but the outcome is still useful for other careers) The appropriate place for this feedback is a bug report, so we can see it immediately, find the problem, and fix it. As stated in the forum guidelines, please don't put bug reports in the forum. a) who knows when we'll see it b) there's nothing other forum goers can do about them - they just make it harder for everyone else to have conversations I appreciate you're unhappy about fixers, Estelle. Consider that point made. Your signature and behaviour in this thread are unacceptably grumpy. You know we demand better from our forums. Please consider this a warning; further disruptive posts will incur a ban until the end of the festival. The festival is a day old. There's more content to come, and - as ever - we'll be making balance tweaks as it goes on.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/5/2016	[spoiler]My take: the Contrarian is concerned with finding some method of self-governance for London without submitting to the Masters or going to the extreme of the Liberation. The Manager is consulting on the issue from the point of view of a ruler of a past city. So far, the Contrarian has created a lot of division and bickering, and it's yet to be seen whether it can coalesce into something resembling participatory democracy. The Manager is not sanguine about his chances. Also, I think Sinning Jenny blackmailing the rich to give to the poor is hilarious. A regular Robin Stockings, if you will. The Bishop, meanwhile, is cementing a lot of what we've already guessed about him from past content - from the military to the romantic.[/spoiler] edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 7/5/2016 -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Màiread Posts: 385 7/5/2016	I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying how you guys have incorporated under used areas of existing content. I love that there are so many ways to get the festival qualities. I'm about to experience the polite invitation party for the first time; I haven't written a short story since my first month in FL, now I've done a bunch of them. I've never bothered to get a newspaper or do a flash lay before, but if I have time before the festival ends I'll be checking those out too. It feels invigorating, and a lot more fun than a bunch of new grinds. It also feels like the festival is much better integrated into London as a whole than, say, the Zee fruit festival. It's exciting! I would love to see some festival social actions, especially between opposing campaigns (this is my way of saying I want to prove Jenny's might by arm-wrestling the bishop's supporters). Although as one of the people who sort of broke Hallowmas last year I can see why you'd want to limit that. All in all I think this is a very fun addition to the FL calendar. -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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Emain Ablach Posts: 348 7/4/2016	Angus Turner wrote: To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. To anyone still undecided, the Jovial Contrarian disagrees with this person. He also disagrees with what I just said. And with himself. -- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
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Gonen Posts: 817 7/5/2016	Hello, Knowing FBG, being here over a year, read forum topics from 7 years ago to this day, never have I seen an aggressive Fate selling technique from them. Fate options are clearly described on each Fate storylet so you'll know what you're buying (as opposed to sometimes vague non-Fate options). Every festival or event can always be explored to the max without using Fate. Those are kept for bonus lore/equipment or for rushing things for the impatient ones. Never to accomplish a target. This event, I am sure, is no different. We have 2 weeks and only 2 days gone. I can bet my own left hand that FBG intends to let anyone with descent stats to max this event without Fate. This event is free to play with a truly unnecessary Fate option to speed things up. If you look at the last Feast of the Rose, when the event was about to close, and people complained on forum that the RNG is awful, FBG took notice and made the relevant storylet a fixed storylet for the last days. That's the vibes I ALWAYS got from FBG. Never to push Fate option, never force players to Fate or else mission will be impossible. This is a new event. They are monitoring our feedback closely and tweek things as it goes. Truly believe that all shall be well. -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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Edward Warren Posts: 120 7/13/2016	I'm a proud supporter of the Bishop of Southwark, because he at least stands for something. Out of all of the candidates, only the Bishop has a clear cut agenda that has clear benefits for London. Opponents and critics of the Bishop like to paint him as a vindictive man, motivated by a petty vendetta against a neighboring state. This simply is not true. His Grace is a proud citizen of the empire, a pious man whose experiences have made him painfully aware of the plight our city faces. Of an enemy that is not at the gates, but already inside the walls. It is not exaggeration to state the devils have been growing more and more powerful and influential in our fair city since the campaign of '68. Infernal influence can be seen in all levels of our society, from the slums of Spite to the heights of high society. Mr. Slowcake is a sockpuppet for a cabal of devils. Essentially anyone who wants to become notable must report all of their noteworthy accomplishments to Hell. The devils have a masterful spy network hiding in plain sight, and we happily, willingly, eagerly feed them valuable intelligence. Some citizens argue in favor of one of the other candidates in the name of improving London, but how can London ever be better off if it cannot stand alone? Hydrogen, brass, etc., London is becoming increasingly dependent on Hell for trade. The economy is being undermined by spirifage, a practice banned by The Bazaar itself. Poverty will always exist in society, but can London so willingly turn a blind eye to Spirifers preying on hospital wards? To devils hunting Londoners in the Forgotten Quarter? To Hell's triremes holding our people hostage in return for a ransom of innocent souls? And the soul trade doesn't affect only the destitute and infirm. The Brass Ambassador uses the soul trade to blackmail Quiet Statesmen at society events. How many of our government officials are under the control of Hell though infernal contracts? London ultimately answers to Our Benefactors, the Masters of the Bazaar, but shall we so eagerly surrender what autonomy we have to the forces of evil? While letting jokers and opportunists hijack such a clear-cut election?! The Contrarian has happily based his platform on hogwash, and is funded by the revolutionaries. The man purportedly disapproves of the Liberation of Night, yet is forwarding their agenda with his candidacy. Currently the Contrarian's campaign is at war with itself, facing a coup led by February. The Contrarian can shunt what money he can to the other candidates now, but if he wins the election it is clear he will be a sockpuppet for terrorists looking to end the world. Sinning Jenny's campaign remains dedicated to its cause, which would be commendable if not for the fact no one but Jenny knows what it is. Jenny pays lip service to the candidate of the people routine, but she funds her campaign through blackmail of her past clients. Until recently her campaign was clearly funded by The Esteemed Mr. Wines, until she decided to send the funds and staff back. Was this an attack of consicence, or a rushed effort to destroy evidence of a too-obvious bribe? The fact Jenny's events are still stocked with an endless supply of Morelways points to the latter. The campaign continues to gather and even fabricate blackmail material on London's best and brightest, while Jenny continues to slink away across the Zee to unknown ends. If elected, Jenny's blackmail records will give her power and influence beyond what a mayor should have. Will we allow a new tyrant to come to power over us, or will we elect the one candidate that can oust the literal devils that already rule over us? For God's Sake, for London's sake, for your own soul's sake: Vote for The Bishop of Southwark! -- WHAT IS BELOW CANNOT ESCAPE WHAT IS ABOVE
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IgnatuStone Posts: 208 7/12/2016	OK, I just wandered back onto this thread after a while, when did this all get so heated? I'm all for friendly debate about the fictional characters Failbetter has created for us, but lets try and keep this debate relevant to the game. edited by IgnatuStone on 7/12/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ignatus~Stone
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Dr Cop Posts: 38 7/13/2016	RandomWalker wrote: thedeadlymoose wrote: Just to say: I really enjoy the writing for this storyline. I think it's pretty well hit out of the park. The storyline uses the trope of &quotall sides are bad, now pick one&quot, which has been used a lot in games and usually is terrible. However, while not all people may agree, I think it's done really well here, because everyone is so entertaining, and what's going on is pretty fascinating. Sorry to say I disagree. The election is a typical modern mud-raking exercise where every candidate is awful and there are no good choices, yes. We have no campaign promises, or information about the platforms, and very little about the candidates except how awful they are. I don't have a problem with candidates having a negative angle, but all they are is negative. There's no redeeming quality being put forward for any of them. Jenny is selling London down the river, literally. The Contrarian is trying to sabotage his own campaign, to stop it from being a vehicle for terrorists who want to sabotage everything. The Bishop has been so thoroughly gamed by the devils that he's already lost. I'd be thrilled to see either the contrarian or the bishop's arc play out. I want to see what happens when, in a world like fallen London, you put someone as principled and uncompromising as the bishop in a completely untenable situation; I want to see what happens when somebody who sees the big picture tries to find a third way between the masters and the liberation of night, using the unique resources he has cultivated in his role arguing everything for everyone. It helps, too, that this strategy had made him so appallingly inscrutable. Honestly, Sinning Jenny's arc is the only one I'm not invested in. As sure as I am that FBG will do amazing job filling in the blanks, it's not hard to imagine how everything will play out once she's elected. -- fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hawkinsssable
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/18/2016	I think it was more a lighthearted pun than a piece of deliberate political commentary. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/12/2016	Could we not denigrate sex workers? -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/12/2016	No insults, please. We should be polite and civil, and telling people they are gits for voting for a candidate you don't support is neither. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/7/2016	failbetter why do you do this to me -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Cthonius Posts: 362 7/18/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: I'll admit I'm looking forward to the end of the festival - to see who wins and what the festivities are like, but also so I can relax a little after keeping an eye on all the forum debates! The moderators all deserve a hand. They'll have to wait for the next Feast of the Exceptional Rose -- Cthonius, gone North. Gone. Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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Lieutenant Astros Posts: 12 7/18/2016	"Take heart, friend. The light has not yet gone out. This is not the end." Seems we will see the Contrarian once more.
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Chimeraguard Posts: 8 7/14/2016	Knock L Out wrote: 3.I think it was obvious that the Contrarian was not at all serious about running for mayor but was simply putting his hat is the ring just because he thought it would be fun debating till sun dow... um well and making a mockery of the establishment having the calendar counsel backing him to spice things up a bit but now that things have heated up and everything has become serious he is regretting his decisions and is now giving his funds to the other competitors to get back at the CC for ruining his fun and is only staying in the race out of pride,Keeping Face and probably fear of the revolutionary backlash from standing down. Actually, I think his initial election thing was quite serious. In the first week, the Flash Lay lets you see him arguing with the Manager of Bethlehem about "Between this and the Bazaar, there is no third way." And his finances include the phrase "the Light need not necessarily go out." I think the campaign initially was very much a serious attempt to find a way to free London from the Masters without having the extremes the Liberation of Night would go to. Of course, with the more extremist Revolutionaries butting in and probably making the whole platform more extreme, that's probably why he's sending money to Jenny and the Bishop.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/12/2016	No more overt nightmare of NORTH, painful and miserable but bringing people together in curiosity. Here comes an Apple of Discord, laced with sugar petals, cute boots, flash lays, case-notes and the blood of urchins, thrown into our midst, to cause social bloodbath of epic proportion that SMEN never quite managed to do. I would like to remind everyone that this is what happens when you topple the Tiger-Keeper and replace it with a particularly evil Unfinished Man and their ratty cohorts. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/5/2016	Gonen wrote: Robin Alexander wrote: Snip I don't see it as a competition. Everyone is going to get the same elected mayor. As I understand, no winning side will get a bonus the others won't. It's a chance to influence the game, but that's it. No penalty for the losers, no bonus for the winners. Same mayoral opportunity card for all. (Well, no penalty except banishment from the forum for those who did not vote our mayor, Jenny, of course. Not too late to change your side, folks). The Jovial Contrarian welcomes those who have voted against him in the past. Also those who will vote against him in the future. He may ban you if you vote for him now though.
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DeserterKalak Posts: 94 7/6/2016	One thing I'd like people to consider, from an OOC mechanical perspective, is that if the post-election election card gives out resources, the Bishop is likely to dish out wine, the Contrarian will probably dish out revolutionary stuff, and Sinning Jenny will likely give romantic notions or something. I dunno about the rest of you, but I generally have more wine than I have "presumptuous little opportunity" card draws, and I need Touching Love Stories to farm Connected: The Masters and a bunch of other stuff. IC, Sinning Jenny is a badass feminist warrior nun who is fighting for We the People. I know some think the Contrarian is edgy and some think the Bishop is really actually going to give a "damn good thumping" to a race of technologically superior super-beings that view us the same way that we view small animals that get into our houses, but get on Team Hotness already. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/DeserterKalak
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/4/2016	Let's keep this civil, folks - you've registered your concerns about the balance as it stands; let's leave it at that before someone says something they regret. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Vexpont Posts: 137 7/4/2016	Cthonius wrote: Perhaps being a fixer was a bad move, but honestly the choice was calling to me. I'll take the misfortune. For the Contrarian. Hear, hear! I will not admit him to be a cad, but the Contrarian is a born bounder. He adores argument, and would be the first to admit that no-one but he – perhaps – can truly know his loyalties. He deserves to be rolled down the steps of St. Fiacre's (and has surely calculated that this would gain him more election points than bruises). But I may I suggest that Fallen London is not the ideal place for ideals? If both of his rivals are not idealists, they at least choose to present themselves as such. Can we afford such luxuries? We all know that whoever becomes Mayor, our true rulers will not change. Would you be keenly interested in whatever exalted beetle the Phosphorescent Scarabs elected to be their Mayor? Such is roughly the attitude of the Masters to ourselves, I suspect. Only the Contrarian has the negotiation experience to address this difficult point. He will be our Lincoln, our unflinching compromiser. And he will probably fail, or be murdered, or both at once. But none of the other candidates will even face facts. Vote Contrarian: Arguably the Best We've Got. -- Dangerous to my enemies; loyal to my friends. Not too handy at telling the difference. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vexpont
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Ginkgo Posts: 2 7/4/2016	As an aside, I find it rather humorous that the icon for the Pre-Lapsarian Speaking Trumpet is a rifle. As a speaking trumpet, I expect one would hold it up to one's mouth in order to speak?
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/5/2016	Kharsirr Lynx wrote: Even if you are Fixer, it is not fatal, and not exactly 'twice of work'. Campaign Resources could be used to obtain Dirty Secrets; Rhetorics go through Short Stories. 5/20 and counting, I am reasonably sure there will be 20/20 closer to the election finish line. [spoiler]If I do a Flash Lay, I'm half-way towards my next campaign level. If I create a Short Story, I'm half-way towards my next campaign level. The same amount of actions, and resources, are spent - for half the result. ^ That is what we mean by twice the work. Yes, it's possible for me to reach the lv20 finish-line. I might even manage it, depending on RNG. But even if I used the Campaign Resources card (bearing in mind that I can't hoard 20 Criminals or Tomb Colonists Favours at a time and would have to rely on drawing those cards along the way), I'm still down by a significant value of materials by the end of it when compared to non-Fixers. Nobody's saying this is fatal. But for those of us who chose Fixer without knowing (even disregarding the matter of the Boots, which can't be purchased with Fate), finding that our efforts are noticeably more ineffectual than others'... let's just say it's not such a great feeling.[/spoiler] -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/13/2016	In Fallen London, hat eats you! -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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PJ Posts: 210 7/13/2016	Pnakotic wrote: Irem is about as far North and East as you could go without performing some metaphysical adventures. In fact, it's exactly as far North and East as you can go without going on a metaphysical adventure. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/14/2016	Honestly I think he'd be financing the other candidates anyway. It's A: funny, and B: entirely in-character for someone who wants to foster political debate for its own sake. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/18/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: I'll admit I'm looking forward to the end of the festival - to see who wins and what the festivities are like, but also so I can relax a little after keeping an eye on all the forum debates! The moderators all deserve a hand. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/12/2016	MrBurnside wrote: May I ask what they deserve it for? Love and desire having a price (the full extent of which is not immediately known) is one of the core recurring themes of FL. Maybe even the theme. Vote for Jenny, the most setting-faithful candidate. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/11/2016	Grenem wrote: Sir Joseph Marlen wrote: Was the Contrarian definitely spending funds to other campaigns solely to sink his own ship? Or was it simply because he's being his usual argumentative self? Also, is February truly in charge of his campaign or is she only attempting to do so as of yet? I'm asking because, from I got from the text, it seemed a bit...vague. Probable, yes, but nothing definite. It seemed like there were implications, but just right below the level of air-tight. I can't say that I approve if his campaign really isn't his campaign anymore, though. Sure, he was bound to have issues with his separate future of London from that of the Calendar Council and his supporters would certainly have tried to muscle in their influence. But to hijack his nomination and declare him a compromised candidate halfway through the election? All I can say is that I hope we are wrong about just how much power February has over his people and what his intentions are for spending his funds. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/11/2016 Sure, he's not caught yet- and there's a non-zero chance that he's doing it as a petty gesture of revenge, funnelling all the money the revolution is trying to shove down his throat into the opposition, as a gesture of "Stop 'Helping' Me!" But where the rest of the candidates are fully invested, and all we're discovering is either the vaguest hints of internal corruption or even only their deliberately chosen dark deeds, he's actively sabotaging his own campaign, and wasting energy trying to fight against the current of liberation support. The bishop's made me want to vote no less for him, but the contrarian's made me doubt in his worthiness more. Even Jenny has more flattering storylines this time, and give how "anti-blackmail" and "Politicians should be honorable" i am, that's [lower on the chain than dust.] The problem I'm having is how openly variable the accusations are against the candidates. Is the Contrarian doing everything in his power (possibly more or less successfully?) to keep his campaign neutral against a tide of opinionated radicals, or is he attempting to kill his campaign because it's now under the control of the Council? Is the Bishop wanting to show the true extent of harm from the illegal Soul Trade in London, or is the man turned hypocrite and outing out the soulless from uncaring seller to the thieved and desperate? Is Jenny a modern day Robinhood that twists the arms of the rich to do what's necessary for the betterment of Londoners, or is she a selfish and corrupt official that's willing to do whatever is needed to get what she wants? I like the idea of delving into what our candidates are really about, and politics usually has an air of uncertainty for the end result or the convictions of its leaders, but it's a bit of an issue when some of these confusions can make the difference between a righteous saint of their campaign's beliefs and an abuser of the people and those who held faith in them. I don't know, I just wish accusations were more concrete in what they meant while not implying the potential suicide of a campaign's ideals. Overall, I'm kinda confused. -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/7/2016	I feel that the Contrarian is the least dangerous to be elected and the most dangerous not to elect. After all, without his third way we could someday be facing the liberation of night and really...does anyone sane want to see that come to pass? Vote for moderation, vote for yourselves, vote Contrarian. -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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Hannah Flynn Administrator Posts: 491 7/18/2016	Gillsing wrote: Yes, but when on the 18th July? 24 hours is a long time, filled with many cards and actions. At least the intended hour of day would be nice to know. And would always have been nice to know, for all the festivals. We can't guarantee a time of day. Anything could happen which would change the time - staff illness, technical hitches, last-minute changes. If you want to practice brinksmanship that is up to you, but the only safe cutoff is 0930 GMT on the last day of the event. -- Wields the news canon, aboard the hype train.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/18/2016	And, incidentally, may I offer my congratulations to all three campaigns for their sterling work throughout the election - and my fellow petals, I shall see you at the celebratory drinks! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Curious Foreigner Posts: 210 7/18/2016	I have echoed the Bishop's words. I'm glad I stuck with him to the end. -- Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.) The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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BillyBones Posts: 40 7/18/2016	It was pretty fun debating in favour of the Contrarian. With a little luck, next year I'll be debating in favour of the Topsy King. Great work, everyone, and remember, Topsy King for mayor in 1895! edited by BillyBones on 7/18/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BillyBones I'll accept any social actions, but especially chess.
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Koh Kai Ying Posts: 110 7/12/2016	Take a step back. Try to keep debate of real life sex-workers separate from fictional society too, they deserve that. Might need a topic elsewhere! -- Illyria K is your friend!! More active nowadays. Eager for any social actions including Loitering!
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phryne Posts: 1351 7/4/2016	I have a complaint: the Boots are described as "crimson", but the item art shows them as black! stamps foot I want my Crimson Boots! -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/4/2016	So, I've decided to do a little bit of digging on all three candidates. My first task? The Good Bishop's secrets. [spoiler]Whether he knows it or not is quite the other matter, but it would seem as though he is being funded by several devils who are regulars at Dante's Grill. if they are devils of note playing for power or a bunch pulling a prank is still unknown, but anyone voting for the Bishop under the pretense of kill the devils needs to think twice. [/spoiler] -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/4/2016	Yeah, I suppose I may have been a bit abrasive earlier. I think I'm just super jealous that my rping constantly leaves me shafted by the game and nobody cares but as soon as other people get shafted by the mechanics it's a huge crisis. But there was certainly a better way to make that point. I apologize.
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/4/2016	Kukapetal wrote: I know I'm going to be unpopular for this post, but as someone who CONSTANTLY gets the game's middle finger shoved in her face due to her RPing choices, as well as constantly told to suck it up because that's just how the game is, I can't help but find those of you crying about how your RPing choices screwed you out of a pair of super speshul boots to be a little over the top. Sometimes RPing decisions screw you out of easier challenges or better loot. Apparently that's just the way the game is, and if I have to suck it up constantly, the rest of you should be able to suck it up for one event. Heck, you don't even know if Fixer will remain a crappy job forever. Maybe the writers will offer some sort of great reward for Fixers somewhere down the line. It's only the first day of the Election season. Cool your jets :P I think I might be the one of the few who will actually enjoy RPing her way through the election, since, as I'm usually punished by the game anyway, I've stopped caring about trying to get good results and can therefore just try to enjoy the experience. Now that so many of you are brief visitors into MY world of disappointment, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll still be screwed, but you might at least have some fun. Are you sure the people who told you to suck it up are the same people who are talking about the imbalances? You need to chill, too, even if I agree that you can still have fun from this. No need for that superiority tone, I believe? I am more concerned about Fixers being weak, since if the players score are matched against each other it is a problem that some people arbitrarily need to do twice the work for their vote. The items are less important I believe and definitely shouldn't be turned to all shoes for the sake of balance. People will grumble but they will overlook the shoes in a bit. edited by Morkan Kassington on 7/4/2016 -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/4/2016	We have a warmonger candidate, a candidate who's proud to be for nothing in particular, and a candidate who wants to make life better for the average Londoner. It may all be rhetoric, but consider - whose policies would you actually want enacted, were they to come true? -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/4/2016	We shouldn't have to check for spoilers before choosing to avoid the objectively worst possible option, but here we are. Sorry, Kittenpox. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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friendshipranger Posts: 274 7/4/2016	Dear Failbetter: This is the best Fourth of July gift ever.I love this, so much. Thanks. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/J.L.%20Moriarty
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An Individual Posts: 589 7/4/2016	I guess it's a good thing I went Campaigner. Hello shiny new shoes. There's a lot going on here. Can't wait to explore the new content. And you should all be supporting Sinning Jenny. Because you are either in favor of monster hunting ninja nuns or you are wrong! -- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/4/2016	Sinning Jenny is amazing. There is more to her than Scarlet Stockings. She will be a wonderful Mayor of London. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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BillyBones Posts: 40 7/4/2016	A word, if I may. Recently, there's been an increase in the number of Seekers. Mad, hungry, hilarious. You know the type. For whatever reason, many of London's retired, shall we say, veteran, Seekers, began to seek anew. For whatever reason. One such Seeker was a fellow known as Spacemarine9. I have no idea why his parents chose to give him such a name, or what a 'Space marine' even is, but one cannot deny the man was brilliant. Brilliant, but mad. He had this obsession with rats. Sent many, many rats to some other influential fellow. Rumours say he went NORTH, on his quest to Seek the Name. He's not been seen around London's streets, certainly. Some say he died on his quest. Really died. Others, however, say he ascended to a higher plane. A much higher plane. Wherever he is, he's gone. For good? Who knows. I know that, if he were around for the election, he would have voted for the Contrarian. And so, fellow Londoners, I propose we honour his memory by voting for the Contrarian, that we may truly Master Ourselves, as this brave, rat-sending lunatic did before his demise(?). edited by BillyBones on 7/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BillyBones I'll accept any social actions, but especially chess.
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The Stranger Man Posts: 21 7/4/2016	So, just because I opted for the option that I felt suited my character the best (Fixer) without metagaming it, I got screwed out the boots that everyone agrees is probably the best item (stat-wise) for end-gamers like me, that I can't even buy with Fate, and now I have to work twice as hard as the other two careers? Yeah, no. I was looking forward to this event, but now I think I'll pass. -- When the strange things come a-knocking, hire someone Stranger.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Kharsirr Lynx wrote: Even if you are Fixer, it is not fatal, and not exactly 'twice of work'. Campaign Resources could be used to obtain Dirty Secrets; Rhetorics go through Short Stories. 5/20 and counting, I am reasonably sure there will be 20/20 closer to thr election finish line. Campaigners: Talk of the Town (assuming no bug, and earns you Favour in High Places) Write a Short Story (around 30 actions, faster if you are willing to spend Favour in High Places) Investigate a Case for Convincing Rhetoric+ wait for a card to use Campaign Resources for Public Attention Agitators: Flash Lays (around 30 actions), no need for cards Fixers: Investigate a Case for Convincing Rhetoric + do a Flash Lay for Dirty Secrets (around 50 actions for one level) Investigate a Case for Convincing Rhetoric + wait for a card to use Campaign Resources for Dirty Secrets Well, Fixers can certainly reach the finishing line, but it doesn't mean this is good. I mean most players who cares will try out everything for exploration's sake, but it is still irritating. Also, Campaign Resources are not a cheap card to play, either, except Campaigners are uniquely suited for coasting on by spending existing wealth and Agitators are very good for new players starting out while Fixers.... er? edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/5/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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spacecatte Posts: 42 7/6/2016	is anyone else hoping we'll get to see more info about the candidates revealed, like say at the around the halfway point? I'm siding with jenny at the moment but I'm holding onto my resources until it's certain we've seen all there is to see from them. [spoiler]personally I'm really hoping we get to see how wines and the masters are taking jenny's betrayal, and what the calendar council is thinking on the contrarian and his moderation. mid-campaign drama would be an amazing turn for the event, especially if that drama might be the bishop learning of his infernal pranksters[/spoiler] edited by spacecatte on 7/6/2016 edited by spacecatte on 7/6/2016 -- "That cat is walking around in a space suit." The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things. Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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Màiread Posts: 385 7/6/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: winrarphile wrote: Oh my, my infinite piles of blackmail material, and favours finally come into play. I'm already up to level 9, but I have a feeling somebody's already hit the cap. What does that help with? Heck, does anyone have a decent guide to this festival? If there is one here, it's buried in complaints and lore-related talks. This isn't an exhaustive guide, and the festival is still developing with more content to come. However: 1) Once you've chosen a candidate and a career, your goal is to gather the election items (public attention, dirty secrets, convincing rhetoric). You can then cash these in on the election card ('your election career', I think it's called). 2). Each profession levels up using two of the three items, but it looks like you'll be able to use any leftovers later on, so you're not restricted to a single grind. 3) There are lots of sources for the items. There are 4 election cards (one for each candidate and campaign resources) which are fairly cheap ways to get them (usually 1 favour or some items). You can also write a compelling short story, do a flash lay, do an investigation, publish a special edition if you have a newspaper, or cash in Talk of the Town on the polite invitation parties (PoSI only). I suggest doing them all; the story content is in flash lays and investigations. 4) Flash lays, posi parties and investigations are action intensive but can be done for free. Writing a short story is much easier if you're rich and have high persuasive. I suggest using either favours in high places & blackmail material (expensive but fast) or touching love stories to raise your potential. If you don't like to risk wasting resources, it's actually slightly cheaper to guarantee a compelling story by raising potential to 80 and gambling on getting an exceptional story, since failing gives a compelling story. At the moment that's pretty much it! My advice is: try everything, don't worry, and if you don't have a lot of resources or high skills use a combo of cards, investigations and flash lays to progress. -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/12/2016	Whoa, easy now. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	Methinks election season may not be the best of things for London. Certainly brought out the worst in me, and tensions are running high all over the place. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: I don't want to over-politicise the discussion (which is weird, when it's about a political campaign!). Suffice to say that sex work is not an equitable transaction, but a callous exploitation of disadvantage. I quote: "If prostitution is a free choice, why are the women with the fewest choices the ones most often found doing it?" It's not unlike paying homeless men to fight each other for money. You could argue that you're not physically forcing them to do it, that they are free to refuse, and so on, but really? I think most of us would agree that it is Not A Very Nice Thing To Do At All, wouldn't we? Not to mention the hypocrisy of a society that condemns sex workers morally in public, while privately exploiting them for selfish pleasure. A society that treats people as if they were things, and then blames them for it. What could be more fair than for them to be used as they have used others? Even then it's hardly the same thing: all it's costing them is money and influence, both of which they have to spare. It's not only what they deserve, it's the least of what they deserve. I don't want to start any polemics, though. I honestly thought this was something that wouldn't need explaining, because we're all on the same page. This is a bizarre discussion to have, but . . . I think the possible exploitation of sex workers depends on the type of sex work and the worker. To take your example, it's the difference between paying two homeless men to fight and two homeless men choosing to box for sport (setting up their own rings, taking bets, in control of the situation, volunteering to do it, etc.) . . . there are people forced into sex work, people who feel they have no other option, and people who actively seek that lifestyle out. I've known some women choose to work in certain 'ranches'; this is because it helps pay for their education, or they simply prefer the profession to others out there, or because of the benefits . . . they get healthcare, dental, control of their hours, control over what actions they take or preform, and can quit at any time . . . some enjoy the acts, some think of it just as a 'job' . . . would many of us choose it? Nope. Do some men or women choose it? Yup. It's an actual choice; some have 'better' options, but prefer the pay and benefits over shop-work or a call centre. We can't assume all sex-workers are oppressed by society. Equally we can't romanticise it and pretend all sex workers 'choose' the profession. You're right society is wrong to condemn the worker, but not the 'consumer', only shouldn't we blame society in that case and not the consumer? If obesity is a problem in society, do we blame society or the consumer? Lately, we have sugar taxes, government wide advertisement about 'healthy eating', classes in school about how to cook and what to eat, free gym membership from doctors to overweight people . . . we try to fix the cause and not condemn the individual. Jenny has no right thus to abuse those who use her services.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/13/2016	Pnakotic wrote: And any of them can upset the status quo sufficiently to bring forth an open conflict with the masters which will likely send us all into the underpipes. As seems typical in real world politics, we constituents are not so much allowed to choose our eventual fate as to choose who, specifically, will have the privilege of selling us down the river. Theoretically, perhaps, but that would mean the end of the game, and in FBG have created this seasonal event as a stealth excuse to close down Fallen London, I'll eat my least-favourite hat. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/13/2016	The problem I see with trying to relay what one thinks is right is that there isn't actually a wrong. No matter who one is voting for or why it is still a perfectly good choice for perfectly good reasons. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Aegis1000 Posts: 64 7/13/2016	VOTE FOR THE CONTRARIAN! The so-called Jenny is a fraud! The so-called Jenny is a vile marxist and communist! The Bishop is a despotic, theocratic tyrant! The Bishop is a weak and spineless leader! This election is an undemocratic farce! London is no democracy anyway! If you are reading this you are in violation of copyright laws! Read this and spread it to everyone you know! Stop violating my copyright! -- Aegis1000,a midnight, sinister, inescapable and sagacious gentleman. Intent on taking over the world, or at least Fallen London. Indescribably awesome and only marginally narcissistic.
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plasmid Posts: 21 7/13/2016	the only thing I really want as an effect from the bishop's (somewhat unlikely) victory is the path to the fifth coil of the Labyrinth. A man can dream edited by plasmid on 7/13/2016 -- Key P miskatonic- an persuasive, watchful and dangerous individual of mysterious gender, with a divine amount of serpents following him: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Key~P~Miskatonic~ bells_book- letal and sinister gentleman with a love of music http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bells_book
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iippo Posts: 15 7/18/2016	I don't know where feedback on the game experience should go and whether this is the right place for it, but this was by far the most frustrating seasonal content ever. The card needed to advance the career just. would. not. show up. X____x I had enough campaign resources to go up 5 levels but couldn't because the deck just wouldn't give me the card. I spent a week flipping cards and grinding mindlessly and selling the rewards. Perhaps in the future players could spend some campaign resources to call the career advancement card (much like how you can invite the Slowcake's Amanuensis when you need him)?
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/7/2016	MrBurnside wrote: I know you couldn't hear my whistle, but I am seriously impressed. Is that a Dark-Carapaced Crustacean? Two of them (kinda by accident), and also a gilded crustacean. The gilded one is my big rare catch. More on topic, really happy with my changed career. More than made up the lost ground and doubled what I previously had besides. A+ thanks for the option, Failbetter. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/11/2016	In case anyone's checking the forum and not the game, the secrets from investigating a campaign have changed. New hints for each campaign. I didn't notice any change with the flash lay I tried though. [Update: Flash Lays now updated too] edited by RandomWalker on 7/11/2016
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1784 7/12/2016	I hope I don't sound obnoxious, but the Contrarian's stance seems fitting in the storytelling sense. He is doing what he always did - standing on his own, despite the consequences. At least now he is being a contrarian for a good reason, a reason obvious to us all. Character-wise, I would say he is consistent. The same goes for the Bishop: he is doing a very harsh thing in pursuit of a higher goal. I campaign for Jenny and honestly, though I am glad she is in the lead, I would be equally glad if her lore was as revealing as the lore for the other trwo - even if it hurt her chances. After all, this is a storytelling experience. I am not saying your efforts should be wasted in the name of story, only that the Contrarian and the Bishop narratives are consistent - they are being themselves in loss. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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morporkia Posts: 1 7/12/2016	Little The wrote: I'm a bit surprised people are so quick to rail against Jenny. Ask yourselves: What's the worst-case scenario here? That this is all a con and she's actually only in it to get power for herself? Well then, what's she going to use that power for? Most likely, to empower Abbey Rock... and while I'm not playing Bag a Legend, I've heard they're against the Vake and other things that go bump in the night, yes? I don't see anything bad about that -- even if they're only doing it for their own glory or some petty vendetta, they're still making London safer. So either Jenny is genuine, which is a good thing... or she's furthering her secret agenda, which is also a good thing. Or possibly, both at the same time. I don't see a downside here. The downside is that you are correct, and that there really isn't much negative portrayal of Jenny as opposed to the Bishop/Contrarian (she's a politician! Running for Mayor! The horror!), so if you were a supporter of one of the other two candidates you may, at this point, be feeling somewhat put out. I was expecting a bit more parity. Where's the fun in an election with one clear answer?
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/12/2016	This may or may not be the place for a debate of the moral ramifications of 19th-century capitalism, but slurs are absolutely on the wrong side of the line. I'll stress, once again, to adhere on the side of decency in all forum discussions - I can and will put my foot down again if I need to. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/12/2016	But saying all rich people are evil by definition is a-okay?
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PJ Posts: 210 7/12/2016	Schmidt wrote: I don't feel the sarcasm was necessary. Perhaps not, but it was certainly amusing! You know the rules. You shouldn't need to be told not to violate them each individual time you find a way to do so. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Little The Posts: 700 7/12/2016	morporkia wrote: Little The wrote: I'm a bit surprised people are so quick to rail against Jenny. Ask yourselves: What's the worst-case scenario here? That this is all a con and she's actually only in it to get power for herself? Well then, what's she going to use that power for? Most likely, to empower Abbey Rock... and while I'm not playing Bag a Legend, I've heard they're against the Vake and other things that go bump in the night, yes? I don't see anything bad about that -- even if they're only doing it for their own glory or some petty vendetta, they're still making London safer. So either Jenny is genuine, which is a good thing... or she's furthering her secret agenda, which is also a good thing. Or possibly, both at the same time. I don't see a downside here. The downside is that you are correct, and that there really isn't much negative portrayal of Jenny as opposed to the Bishop/Contrarian (she's a politician! Running for Mayor! The horror!), so if you were a supporter of one of the other two candidates you may, at this point, be feeling somewhat put out. I was expecting a bit more parity. Where's the fun in an election with one clear answer? I have to agree with this, actually. Things really seem stacked in Jenny's favor -- the others have secret agendas too, but they're ones that most people would probably be opposed to. Jenny's secret agenda doesn't seem nearly as sinister as the Liberation of Night or invading Hell or publicizing the soulless. Even the worst possible interpretation of the latest text -- her fencing secrets for pure profit -- is just garden-variety corruption. Given that the playerbase almost certainly seems to lean liberal, I would have expected the writers to make things a little harder for her. :p edited by Little The on 7/12/2016 -- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome. My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?" I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one! Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/8/2016	Shalinoth wrote: Like the elderly voting against the interests of the youth in a referendum! #FutureLondon Can we please not go there? Let's keep RL politics as far away from FL as we can . . .
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/7/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: failbetter why do you do this to me I know you couldn't hear my whistle, but I am seriously impressed. Is that a Dark-Carapaced Crustacean?
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Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389 7/18/2016	Echo Bazaar Twitter, July 11 wrote: Subtext: What happens when the protest vote triumphs? I'm sure that is in no way a political reference. genesis wrote: It's way too raw. I strongly encourage you not to go there (especially if you are not British). sigh I live in the UK, and I voted in the referendum. Can we not reference current events? Many people, including Chris Gardiner, have pointed out the parallels. The downvotes feel like a rather strong reaction to 'The Contrarian is a revolutionary (ish). He wants the Bazaar to leave. Heh. Bazaar exit .... Bazzarexit. It kinda sounds like the political word of the past several months.' -- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/15/2016	Honestly, the sour graps option might lead to real resentment over the next year. The mechanical rewards should be the same for everyone. (New/changed cards reflecting the mayor's influence on the city.) A wrapup story where you get a nod from the campaign you supported would be great, though- possibly even with a reward based on how hard you campaigned (IE career level.) -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/15/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: Honestly, the sour grapes option might lead to real resentment over the next year. The mechanical rewards should be the same for everyone. (New/changed cards reflecting the mayor's influence on the city.) Agreed. The election campaign began with a sudden feeling of 'sour grapes' for some of us. Let's not end it that way. :-) Not to mention that doing so would only encourage the entire community to vote for a single person (so that they don't get short-changed by having chosen a less popular candidate and as such receiving lesser rewards.) - Even moreso if they went and bust a gut trying to help their chosen campaign, but another player who did next-to-nothing aside from make a different choice is going to receive better stuff, because that other player didn't back an underdog. As for this year's election, I don't mind who wins. They're all interesting characters, and each of them would help the game's narrative. Of course, I do know which candidate I (and by extension, my character) would choose to have win - but as a player, I'm happy with whatever the election's result happens to be. :-) -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/14/2016	I'm hoping since this is the first festival that they'll give us a bit of a grace period so everyone will know what'll happen with the Election Resources, kinda like FBG warned us in advance when they made Unusual Pails of So-Called Snow melt at the end of the season. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/13/2016	plasmid wrote: the only thing I really want as an effect from the bishop's (somewhat unlikely) victory is the path to the fifth coil of the Labyrinth. A man can dream edited by plasmid on 7/13/2016 The Fifth Coil is probably main game content independent to the election - it'd be a huge mess if the major effect of election is "pick your choice of unfinished storylines". Look on the bright side: before the election, people look at them three and go "eh". Might be a bit too negative this time, but they can probably find a happier sweeter spot between this and rainbow sunshine. They manage to wrote a lot of new stuff this time around and got a funny new structure and is giving out a nice gift and we are going to get more next year. Anyway, the most important thing: don't hate. This is a pretend election. Keep some perspective. It is a game you care very much about, but it is a game. Don't hate the other voters. Don't feel powerless. edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/13/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Chiltern Posts: 19 7/13/2016	Anyone who's posted their voting totals here miiiight also be interested in dropping by this thread: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22651-election-im-contributing-n-votes-for-c.aspx where someone who's more dedicated than I am is busy trying to gather the voting intentions of the forum (they've even made a nice chart! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AbyF8Mm0bmIg6CN_pYEV9To2qKp13tZ6adSSYYUEaHs/edit?usp=sharing ) -- Am open to all social actions in good faith. Duplicitous acquaintances will be summarily snubbed. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chiltern
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: Sara Hysaro wrote: No insults, please. We should be polite and civil, and telling people they are gits for voting for a candidate you don't support is neither. Fair enough, sorry MrBurnside wrote: Dubinee Finnat wrote: Snip Johny Topside wrote: Also, say what you will about the attendees of the Parlor of Virtue but they likely don't deserved to be blackmailed by the very prostitute they paid. In my opinion, that's exactly what they deserve. Snip May I ask what they deserve it for? For attending? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, but you haven't made it yet, and yet you seem to assume agreement. Perhaps letting us in on your reasoning would lessen opposition. I don't want to over-politicise the discussion (which is weird, when it's about a political campaign!). Suffice to say that sex work is not an equitable transaction, but a callous exploitation of disadvantage. I quote: &quotIf prostitution is a free choice, why are the women with the fewest choices the ones most often found doing it?&quot It's not unlike paying homeless men to fight each other for money. You could argue that you're not physically forcing them to do it, that they are free to refuse, and so on, but really? I think most of us would agree that it is Not A Very Nice Thing To Do At All, wouldn't we? Not to mention the hypocrisy of a society that condemns sex workers morally in public, while privately exploiting them for selfish pleasure. A society that treats people as if they were things, and then blames them for it. What could be more fair than for them to be used as they have used others? Even then it's hardly the same thing: all it's costing them is money and influence, both of which they have to spare. It's not only what they deserve, it's the least of what they deserve. I don't want to start any polemics, though. I honestly thought this was something that wouldn't need explaining, because we're all on the same page. It's a bold assumption, Dubinee. One you can be forgiven for making. I don't mean to come off as wise haha. But while I agree that while prostitutes and other sex workers are taken advantage of systemically, this is less the case here in the fallen city. Honestly, their depiction seems almost lighthearted. But setting aside that issue, I still can't argue that a wrong done to the rich isn't the same as a wrong done to a poor man. I think that the directness of the blackmail is what is irking some of us. Jenny's type seems to be "I won't blackmail you about your weird rubbery fetish! Of course not" does so As opposed to someone who set out to find info to blackmail with. The person in this instance is not the party who broke a personal trust. Then again, maybe it's just me. I accept it could be so. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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TheGreatOneSea Posts: 1 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: I don't want to over-politicise the discussion (which is weird, when it's about a political campaign!). Suffice to say that sex work is not an equitable transaction, but a callous exploitation of disadvantage. I quote: "If prostitution is a free choice, why are the women with the fewest choices the ones most often found doing it?" It's not unlike paying homeless men to fight each other for money. You could argue that you're not physically forcing them to do it, that they are free to refuse, and so on, but really? I think most of us would agree that it is Not A Very Nice Thing To Do At All, wouldn't we? Not to mention the hypocrisy of a society that condemns sex workers morally in public, while privately exploiting them for selfish pleasure. A society that treats people as if they were things, and then blames them for it. What could be more fair than for them to be used as they have used others? Even then it's hardly the same thing: all it's costing them is money and influence, both of which they have to spare. It's not only what they deserve, it's the least of what they deserve. I don't want to start any polemics, though. I honestly thought this was something that wouldn't need explaining, because we're all on the same page. The Parlor of Virtue has enough money to turn away very wealthy potential clients: in the mean time, workers on the dock are being beaten regularly for requesting a pittance, sailors risk their lives against abominations crossing a pitch black hell to bring goods to London, Rubbery Men are beaten on the streets on sheer principal, Clay Men are treated as disposable slaves, the souless roam the streets courtesy of their own desperation, and everyone else is either addicted to honey or laudanum in the hopes of forgetting their misery...assuming they can afford to do so. No one would deny the "fallen" have things bad...but so what? What makes the ex-fallen women and men, disgraced servants, and impoverished Baazarines so much worse off than the rest of the city that they should be running it?
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/12/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: Is new text for the opp cards a thing? Someone mentioned it, and then nobody talked about it. And I just can't pull the dang cards. Maybe someone can make a topic for stuff like... I dunno, election mechanics updates and new changes and text and stuff. I would have thought the place for that would be this thread, but it's getting absolutely drowned in the arguments. edited by MidnightVoyager on 7/12/2016 For what it's worth I've played both the free option and the election option on two separate cards and noticed no new text on either of them. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Fixers get screwed once again This option is, again, mostly useful for Campaigners if it actually gave Convincing Rhetoric along Public Attention anyway (I thought I misread the thing, so I did it twice and went from 23 to 13, Now I have even more useless Public Attention) edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/5/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Dingosilver Posts: 2 7/5/2016	Professor Sketch wrote: Dingosilver wrote: Yes, yes, that's all well and good, but which candidate is sympathetic to ratly concerns? There actually is a fourth candidate - a rat - but he's so small nobody can see him behind his podium so very few people know he's even in the running. The shams were too cheap to even provide him a tall chair!
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/5/2016	May I suggest for those looking to write short stories to invest in an Ornate Typewriter? It's significantly easier skill check than some and has fewer negative consequences if you fail. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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spacecatte Posts: 42 7/4/2016	in the interest of giving the kind folks of the forum a clearer view of the candidates, i've done some digging around in the investigations of the candidates, particularly their shady backers. [spoiler]the jovial contrarian is being supported by the calendar council, of course. whether or not he received a ton of backing in the vague month of january or if he has a specific patron in the elusive January, i can't tell. however, he seems to be mildly disillusioned with his backers; he knows of the Liberation, and has voided his recent checks from the council because of it, stating "The light need not necessarily go out" sinning jenny, meanwhile, is going through an even more extreme and hard line version of this disillusioning. she was previously backed by the masters, specifically mr wines. very very recently, however, she's straight up booted out every individual hired by wines for her campaign trail and sent back every penny it donated to her, in a terse manner to boot. someone earlier accused jenny's campaign of being a prank, but it looks like if any campaign is a prank it's the bishop's. while he's definitely honest in his devil attacking, his backers certainly aren't: the majority of his cash is coming from the rich, infernal regulars of dante's grill. why the devils are backing this guy i don't have a clue, and although it's ambiguous i'm thinking that old reginald doesn't know about these infernal friends. make of this influence what you will, though.[/spoiler] -- "That cat is walking around in a space suit." The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things. Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/4/2016	Yes, but I've heard Mr. Veils hates her, which is enough reason for my character to support her :P
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Bishop's the biggest trainwreck, it seems, whether you support Hell or Church. Jenny's a little bit less of a wreck than Contrarian, but both of them are on the saner side. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/4/2016	I fear I chose my career on the basis of RP. Guess I should've come here first, nice boots. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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JimmyTMalice Posts: 237 7/4/2016	suinicide wrote: Those wax sealed boots give a watchful +5. New best boots. D__n, I wish I'd gone for those now, since I need all the Watchful I can get for Seeking and my Persuasive is already maxed. It might be helpful if we could get a description underneath the various items showing which stats they increase, as with certain other items, since they're very difficult to change without Fate. Happy Londoner wrote: What's known about the candidates? Sinning Jenny is a member of the Sisterhood of Abbey Rock and a known associate of Mr Wines. She mainly appears in Ambition: Bag a Legend! The Bishop of Southwark is a vehement campaigner against Hell and very fond of a good bit of Christian shouting. He turns up in the Fourth Coil of the Labyrinth of Tigers and the associated Fate extension, where he's looking to breed some beasts to hunt down devils. The Jovial Contrarian seems to stand for whatever view is the opposite of the person he's speaking to, and he's connected with the Revolutionaries. He can be found at the 'A Polite Invitation' parties and a few other places besides. edited by JimmyTMalice on 7/4/2016 -- Gideon Stormstrider, the Esoteric Gadgeteer Jimmy T. Malice, gone. A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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plasmid Posts: 21 7/4/2016	I see that most of you heathens are supporting Jenny the sinner , or that 'moderate revolutionary' of a stateman. this won't do, i say, this just won't do. everyone that was half a mile from a servant of the masters know that London doesn't have long before the next city, and everyone with half an ear heard how London fall to the neath. trying to stay in this rotting city would save no soul, sinner or saint. the only solution is to do what the good folks of our nation were meant to do- to colonize, to expend! and the bishop is the expert on that matter, and in these very moment is giving citizens of London the option to prepare themselves and the city to us reclaiming our future! what other candidate will allow us to freely breed and own fire splitting lobsters, claw-horses and correspondence serpents? what other candidate will fund peoples honest attempt to inform the public about the horror tale that is hell's trireme? and what other candidate will take on every other candidate in the ring, at anytime, at any date, in the Churchmania?! only the Bishop of Southwark will! -- Key P miskatonic- an persuasive, watchful and dangerous individual of mysterious gender, with a divine amount of serpents following him: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Key~P~Miskatonic~ bells_book- letal and sinister gentleman with a love of music http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bells_book
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DanV Posts: 53 7/4/2016	can we vote to leave the neath?
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Hazel Posts: 69 7/4/2016	I picked fixer because it sounded the most interesting and I regret it. I regret it so much. -- "I can walk in the Mirror-Marches at the edge of dreams as easily as I might promenade in Tyrant's Gardens." Skymaw & Belle Dame
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/18/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: And, incidentally, may I offer my congratulations to all three campaigns for their sterling work throughout the election - and my fellow petals, I shall see you at the celebratory drinks! I'd like to offer congratulations to the mods. Keeping things civil during this festival was uphill work, and your reminders and interjections were well calibrated to keep the peace. As someone who appreciates the civil, conversational tone of these forums: my hat's off to you!
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Natan Posts: 10 7/18/2016	Permalink to The Bishop's words to a supporter: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/nbean64?fromEchoId=9120311 The Bishop took the loss pretty hard, but it seems that he will recover quickly, given how he stormed off, easily reinvigorated. I'm bitter too, but I'll get over it -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/nbean64
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/4/2016	Hazel wrote: I picked fixer because it sounded the most interesting and I regret it. I regret it so much. At least you picked the right candidate, petal. Check your messages. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/4/2016	I know I'm going to be unpopular for this post, but as someone who CONSTANTLY gets the game's middle finger shoved in her face due to her RPing choices, as well as constantly told to suck it up because that's just how the game is, I can't help but find those of you crying about how your RPing choices screwed you out of a pair of super speshul boots to be a little over the top. Sometimes RPing decisions screw you out of easier challenges or better loot. Apparently that's just the way the game is, and if I have to suck it up constantly, the rest of you should be able to suck it up for one event. Heck, you don't even know if Fixer will remain a crappy job forever. Maybe the writers will offer some sort of great reward for Fixers somewhere down the line. It's only the first day of the Election season. Cool your jets :P I think I might be the one of the few who will actually enjoy RPing her way through the election, since, as I'm usually punished by the game anyway, I've stopped caring about trying to get good results and can therefore just try to enjoy the experience. Now that so many of you are brief visitors into MY world of disappointment, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll still be screwed, but you might at least have some fun.
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/4/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Let's keep this civil, folks - you've registered your concerns about the balance as it stands; let's leave it at that before someone says something they regret. Here here! After all, the various careers are just mechanical drivel. We should be yelling at each other over important things. Like our political choices! Oh, and for those wondering about The Bishop being funded by Devils? That is what the devils do. Everything for them is like a giant hysterical game, even the risk of war. Heck, they welcome you to blow up their embassy for the favors they'd get. They surprise you with applause when you kill a runtish devil. They laugh at your criminal planning like its the best joke they have heard all year. Of course they are funding the Bishop, because what else could possibly be more interesting for them to do? -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/4/2016	Honestly the following makes me wanna support the Bishop all the more: You shall stand at my side when we send the devils packing." An elderly Knight-Harbinger whispers something in his ear. "Eh? Not politic?" He sighs. "We shall raise some very pointed questions regarding the domiciliary status of the Brass Embassy and its favoured exemptions vis a vis the comparable status of the other embassies in London. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/4/2016	Grenem wrote: It's so easy to get snared by a lie. Sinning jenny is pretending to be an empathetic and caring individual, and perhaps she is. but that's not all she is. I could care less about the fact that she sold her affections during the feast of the rose, but that she then poisoned some of her buyers for payment from others is unacceptable. You may vote for her regardless, but do not forget- she has been demonstrated to be ruthless and untrustworthy, and while that isn't all she is... it's easy to forget that, and important that you don't. Indeed, she is more than just an empathetic and caring individual, but as you just said, she is that too, which is more than I can say about the other two. I am aware of her having secrets, but which among our aspiring politicians doesn't have a few, I ask? I would never cast my vote for Jenny if I thought her just a charity act. I want the velvet glove, but also the iron fist underneath. This is politics, after all. I would never vote someone who is armed only with good intentions to be mayor of a place like post-fall London. Goodness gracious, I am not that cruel. For Jenny, my friends. -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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DrTillinghast Posts: 3 7/4/2016	To the Citizens of Fallen London, I come to you, a modest man of rather immodest means, to urge you to cast your votes in the upcoming mayoral election for The People's Candidate, Sinning Jenny. The People's Candidate, Ms. Jenny, is a tireless servant of the oppressed. She has the savoir-faire to negotiate with citizens of both high station and low; and the courage to stand up to the most villainous and monstrous denizens of the deep. And who can forget the titillating romantic notions that The People's Candidate bestowed upon her admirers (obtained for a paltry price) during the Feast of the Exceptional Rose? I urge you, delicious friends, do not throw away your votes upon either the Bishop (a man so obsessed with Hell that he is blinded to the fate of the downtrodden) or the so-called 'Jovial Contrarian' (a bounder and a cad if ever there was one!), but to vote Sinning Jenny for Mayor of London. Vote early! Vote often! Vote Sinning Jenny for Mayor! A thousand times, huzzah! Unequivocally yours, both in fortune and boldness, Dr. Tillinghast, M.D., PhD, Esq. P.S. It only now occurs to me to warn you to handle this piece of correspondence with great care, as the ink has...unusual properties. Dr. T -- Vote for The People's Candidate, SINNING JENNY for Mayor of Fallen London! Fortune Favours the Bold! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/DrTillinghast
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/4/2016	I must be the only idiot enjoying the idea of Fixers having higher difficulty to advance (and I picked Fixer). Maybe it's harder from the point of view of the player to advance, and maybe they will fix it, but... I mean, it's harder being a fixer than being an agitator or a campaigner, I sort of expected that, and I expected more information about the candidates in exchange for the effort, I guess. We will see how things progress. For Jenny, people. For Jenny. -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/4/2016	xcea wrote: I am new and this is my first election. How does this work? – Prof. Xcea It is the first election for everyone so we don't really know yet. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Lucien Serafim Posts: 13 7/4/2016	After a great deal of consideration, I believe I am throwing my hat in for Sinning Jenny. -- Lucid_Seraph came to Fallen London in 2009. E then had an accident and vanished until 2014. But e is back now. All will be well. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/lucid_seraph Open to most social actions. A Watchful mentor. Currently trying to find the Mind of a Long-Dead God.
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Darkroot Posts: 48 7/4/2016	Hey folks, the link to this thread on the silver-bordered storylet has an extra . on the end, making it not work. -- Me!
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Barnaby wrote: lady ciel wrote: Sinning Jenny is amazing. There is more to her than Scarlet Stockings. She will be a wonderful Mayor of London. She's the closest to the Masters out of the three, particularly to Mr Wines. I imagine she represents some sort of status quo here. Investigation says she ditched Mr Wines and severed all Bazaar contacts, so make of that as you will. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/5/2016	Does anyone have any theories about the connection between the Contrarian and the Manager of the Royal Beth? [spoiler] echoed here http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/lady~ciel?fromEchoId=9004393 [/spoiler] -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/5/2016	Vote for Jenny, make the devils pay (for being strangled with red stockings). -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Lisbella Peridot Posts: 138 7/5/2016	Robin Alexander wrote: Little annoyed by the heavy reliance on fate . . . I don't mind fate for EF stories, new/exclusive items, or even to change a person's mind, but . . . charging fate to advance a storyline - particularly on a festival - seems a bit irksome. I'm relying heavily on the RNG to advance my career, while someone with Fate could breeze through, and it seems a bit harsh for a game that promises not to gear things primarily to paying-members, with a sort of equality. Don't get me wrong; loving the festival . . . interesting mechanics, great story, but just a bit fed up with having to waste actions and do flash-lays while other people can get ahead just by having real-life cash. You can draw the card for advancing without paying. -- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now. Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation. I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/4/2016	I picked Fixer and have absolutely no regrets :P Yes, it's probably harder, but harder means potentially more rewarding, and I like the challenge. Also, you can acquire dirty secrets via cards, minimizing the need to do flash lays. I love the pen, I've been wanting to get a high level dangerous weapon for a while and this one is Khaganian made and gives Dreaded to boot ^_^ Super cool. Bishop all the way! [spoiler]If the Devils want to sell him the rope to hang them with, more fool them.[/spoiler] My only regret is that I won't be able to get the Reactionary Tomb Colonist edited by Anne Auclair on 7/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Brizayne Posts: 2 7/5/2016	Teaspoon wrote: I think your assumption that you should play without looking things up is erroneous if you're interested in stats maximisation, because you very much should in that case. Whereas if you're just playing casually/for roleplaying, then it doesn't matter if you're optimising or not, because it's a flexible enough game that you can reach all your goals eventually. Even someone who's not playing the game with optimization in mind shouldn't be pleased that they have to spend twice the actions to raise their campaign profession.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/6/2016	Victor Alexander wrote: Sinning Jenny: SJ is finally making her move, she's been biding her time under the protection of Mr. Wines for a while but has seen an opportunity to form her own base of power. She has assembled a portfolio of secrets, Vake Hunting Nuns, and is building her support base on making a better London. While ultimately, this is all about Sinning Jenny getting what she wants I don't doubt her campaign slogan. After all, striking out and away from Mr. Wines will put her in some danger unless she can maintain her powerbase for a period of time. Her goal is to get elected, get powerful, and keep the people happy enough to keep electing her. Voting for Jenny is truly voting for Jenny, and she might help everyone else out too as long as its in her best interest. You think so? She wouldn't be the first politician to achieve personal power by making promises to the underclasses, but I think there might be more to her campaign than base populism. She's sacrificed a lot, breaking away from her wealthy and powerful patron, without even making political capital from that fact. The Sisters of the Abbey, too, might be her loyal allies, but they're not exactly loyal for loyalty's sake - they have a common mission, and don't seem the sorts to throw that away for a mere municipal election. No, I have a certain degree of faith that Jenny is sincere in her desire to improve the lot of London's poor and vulnerable, of defanging some of the city's terrors. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Gonen Posts: 817 7/5/2016	Robin Alexander wrote: The problem for me is that refreshes usually only affect the individual player, whereas this campaign is more about multi-player gaming . . . we're all working with each other and against each other for a candidate, so these paid-for refreshes give some candidates (and sides) a better chance. Yes, the game's free. Yes, you can still progress. The problem is that you can progress a lot faster and a lot easier with fate, which puts other players at a disadvantage, because of the festival's design being about competition (as opposed to getting a tattoo, or hunting at zee, etc.). Would it usually matter? No. It matters, though, because we're essentially competing. I don't see it as a competition. Everyone is going to get the same elected mayor. As I understand, no winning side will get a bonus the others won't. It's a chance to influence the game, but that's it. No penalty for the losers, no bonus for the winners. Same mayoral opportunity card for all. (Well, no penalty except banishment from the forum for those who did not vote our mayor, Jenny, of course. Not too late to change your side, folks). -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/5/2016	ochrasy wrote: first of all, where are these parties I'm hearing about? second, I'm really happy there will be more content! I feel like the stories are all still missing something. also, besides the RNG hating me, I found this festival quite fair. you can easily get to 20, and still enjoy the other branches that are (for you career) useless. As a fixer, this is not the experience I am having. I've already investigated all three campaigns and I'm in "eyes glass over" mode, just burning actions until it's eventually over. I'm only at career level 4 and fatigue has set in. I can't imagine wanting to do even more branches after this is done with. I'm having regrets that I picked based on character instead of mechanics. It's nice to hear I can use this giant pile of useless public attention eventually, though. Also a little sad about the boots. edited by MidnightVoyager on 7/5/2016 -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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phryne Posts: 1351 7/6/2016	An option to change your career WITHOUT paying Fate has just opened, for anyone interested! edited by phryne on 7/6/2016 -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Professor Strix Posts: 616 7/6/2016	I just performed my 10th investigation in a row and I want to thank FBG for bringing them to this festival. I know that it doesn't necessarily catter to everyone and that I'm the crazy girl who loves the research islands in the zee, but hey, everyone has fun in their own way. -- The Inescapable Professor, London's Most Academic Detective. Open to consultation from Mondays to Fridays, above the Silver Binding bookshop, Veilgarden. Half the payment in advance, half after closing the case. No refunds. "THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used." --------- Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/12/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Great Odin's beard, people. I have a day job to get to! At least do me the service of taking your acrimonious debates to the off-topic forum, if not to PMs or emails! To be fair, I don't think it's so bad that people are debating. Maybe it would fit better in another thread, perhaps, but discussion isn't the problem. It's the level of vehemence and anger that are, like you said. To Failbetter's credit, they made the atmosphere of this election into a believable election with all the arguing and anger that follows. When you apply questions of character and belief that are crucial to an election, you get these sort of things that bring out the worst. For better or worse (and while at times it can be good or even enjoyable if done right or orderly, it is often not), people start to get miffed. I'm sure people will eventually settle down, but for now let's try to stay calm. Keep cool when making your points, understand that others have different beliefs than us that are not necessarily right or wrong, and try to be the bigger person when replying to someone or something. Don't beat yourself or others up for getting mad or fiery (especially if done in defense or as properly as possible), but let's certainly not encourage it. We're all fans of the same game that are just trying to get across what we think is right, after all. By the way, none of this is directed at any one or more people in particular. This is just a general response to all the hostility I've seen. Some of it I can't heavily fault (hell, some of it I rarely agree with) and some weren't too aggressive, while others were just mean-spirited and uncalled for. I just hope people don't get too caught up, or at the very least don't say anything they regret. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/12/2016 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/13/2016	Edward Warren wrote: Until recently her campaign was clearly funded by The Esteemed Mr. Wines, until she decided to send the funds and staff back. Was this an attack of consicence, or a rushed effort to destroy evidence of a too-obvious bribe? The fact Jenny's events are still stocked with an endless supply of Morelways points to the latter. Oh yeah, I missed the significance of the "seemingly never-ending crates of Morelways" wine. Looks like Jenny's split from Mr Wines was tactical after all. She's still receiving his assistance and patronage, only much more discretely. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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CALLNXW Posts: 116 7/13/2016	Fadewalker wrote: Not know if they have been replaced. Screenshots from 4th July for 3 candidates: Jenny Contrarian Bishop The powerball numbers for July 6th are 2, 24, 31, 57, 66, 18 (PB) You'll thank me in two days of your time -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Call%20Now
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/14/2016	Nah, I don't really want to add my data in- why would I want the polling data to be accurate? I'm a Fixer, after all... -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Koh Kai Ying Posts: 110 7/15/2016	They need to add more cards to Flash Lays, I swear -- Illyria K is your friend!! More active nowadays. Eager for any social actions including Loitering!
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/16/2016	Hallowmas left us all with a year-long option based on how high we raised Spirit, giving us a higher MW option on that card throughout the year. So in that sense hard work paid off mechanically over time. Perhaps Election Careers of certain increments (1-5, 6-10, etc) will do the same thing on Mayoral influence storylets. It could even remember how much Notoriety you pumped into your career at the end (by letting us buy ever-higher Career statuses with Notoriety on top of EC, which hang around until next election, the highest being EC 20 + N 15, to be like 'Campaign Manager' or some such.) That way, hard work is preserved as a status symbol and a mechanical booster on certain Mayoral options, whilst who we voted for would be all flavour. But hmm.. story wise, how would being the most amazing Campaigner for a loser benefit you in society? They tend to crawl under the woodwork afterwards, away from newspaper headlines, perhaps into cosy shadow-cabinet kinds of jobs. Ooooh.. Shadow-mayor for the losing party? Someone to keep whoever wins in check? Mayor's Question Time could be amusing. . edited by Shalinoth on 7/16/2016 -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/18/2016	Hopefully no matter who wins, things will be more civil than a week or so ago. To all my fellow fixers out there doing the dirty work so our candidates don't need to besmirch their own hands, cheers! -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/18/2016	Absolutely. I felt really bad for the mods when things were getting really heated. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/18/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Sworn Statements, I believe. The rewards seem to have been the same for each candidate, scaled to one's career advancement. That seems like a nice precedent - rewarding effort rather than just hopping the right bandwagon. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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Lady Sapho Byron Posts: 770 7/18/2016	SmallFish wrote: Conrad Baltar wrote: The announcement of who has triumphed is now available in game It would be nice to have the final tally of votes though. Just chiming in to add my voice to this request ... and also to say this story was completely fun and wonderful and passion-inducing ... I so enjoy how the choices we made in aggregate will affect us all. Great job FB! Hugs and Kisses! -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Lady%20Sapho%20L%20Byron Fighting the Menace of Corsetry Since 1892.
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Fincar Posts: 41 7/7/2016	Grenem wrote: They remind me that when the city falls, or we go to war with hell, or jenny fails to live up to her campaign, it won't be all bad. at the very least, there will be less fools in the world. edited by Grenem on 7/7/2016 I dunno. Fools never seem to be in short supply. -- A person of some little importance... really I am open to most forms of social interactions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Fincar
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/6/2016	DeserterKalak wrote: One thing I'd like people to consider, from an OOC mechanical perspective, is that if the post-election election card gives out resources, the Bishop is likely to dish out wine, the Contrarian will probably dish out revolutionary stuff, and Sinning Jenny will likely give romantic notions or something. I dunno about the rest of you, but I generally have more wine than I have "presumptuous little opportunity" card draws, and I need Touching Love Stories to farm Connected: The Masters and a bunch of other stuff. IC, Sinning Jenny is a badass feminist warrior nun who is fighting for We the People. I know some think the Contrarian is edgy and some think the Bishop is really actually going to give a "damn good thumping" to a race of technologically superior super-beings that view us the same way that we view small animals that get into our houses, but get on Team Hotness already. Fighting for we the people by way of blackmail, and almost certainly breaking confidentiality. The contrarian may have some blood on his hands, but debating someone to death accidentally at a party, no matter how many times it's happened, isn't the same thing as poisoning paying customers, no matter what most may believe, or blackmailing those customers when they were paying for privacy alongside the actual services- and if the parlour doesn't promise discretion, it'd be a wonder if anyone went. EDIT @ joseph. There,i accidentally upvoted when i meant to downvote, your blunder has been fixed. edited by Grenem on 7/6/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/7/2016	absimiliard wrote: If only I cared about Notability .. .. . (it is so ironic, my particular friend cares so very deeply about notability and she's a campaigner, I could care less about MW and suddenly get handed this, a cool way to store and then use MW. Oh Irony.] Oh, and I so laugh Hark. Once again we seem to be doing the same thing, or similar things. Might I assume you back the Bishop or the Contrarian? It would be consistent with our similarities and yet opposing goals regarding the Dawn Machine. . edited by absimiliard on 7/7/2016 I don't normally care about notability, but every point of notability will substitute for election career level. In other words, increasing notability adds votes to your side! presumably in a 1-to-1 ration, but it could be otherwise: "At the end of the Election, your combined Election Career level and Notability will be counted towards whichever candidate you support!" -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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John Moose Posts: 276 7/7/2016	Big sloppy kisses to all you people at FB for letting me change my career! I promise to be the best Fixer ever. Now excuse me as I go spend real world money on an imaginary pen.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/7/2016	Vexpont wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Skinnyman wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: One design flaw I’ve just experienced. If you accidentally click “change profession” or “change candidate” there’s no undo feature asking you “are you sure?” and giving you the opportunity to back out in case you make a mistake or have second thoughts. Did the same, but this thread is to crowded with information. Sorry to see this happening! It's good to catch these problems early. Should I email Failbetter too? I hesitate because this is not actually a bug, just a design problem caused by an overcrowded interface. I would. It doesn't seem likely that it's been deliberately made a candidate/career-jettisoning autofire. Like a lot of folk, I clicked on 'Change Candidate' mostly out of curiosity, to see if the Contrarian would do anything to keep me in the fold. I suppose it would be consistent for him just to shrug and let any wavering supporters go. But the other two would surely try something. The fine folks at Failbetter got back to me. Apparently the complexity of the "change candidate" mechanics means that there has to be an autofire for them to work properly. To avoid miss-clicks they might move the "second thoughts" choices to their own separate pinned card next festival, but relocating them during a festival that's already in progress would create all kinds of mechanical havoc. So, be very, very careful about what you click on the "An Election! London Must Decide!" card and don't click on "change candidate" unless you actually want to change your candidate. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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suinicide Posts: 2409 7/7/2016	To be fair that is the point of obscurity. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/9/2016	Grenem wrote: Optimatum wrote: You are correct, it's 10 echoes per item. I confused myself clearly. also, what's your opinion on the fixer option? is that worth bothering with, if you happen to be one? It is basically there so PoSI Fixers advance at the same rate as others - the MW gain is higher, so the Fixers progress slower on Election but gain Notability faster. At least, that's how I see it, but that might be inaccurate because I started the election with N15 in the first place. Incidentally, I recommend any non-PoSI players to take a little time to trade some Convincing Rhetoric for Collated Research, so that you can get God's Editor early on without having to struggle with the many PoSI carousels. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Little The Posts: 700 7/12/2016	I'm a bit surprised people are so quick to rail against Jenny. Ask yourselves: What's the worst-case scenario here? That this is all a con and she's actually only in it to get power for herself? Well then, what's she going to use that power for? Most likely, to empower Abbey Rock... and while I'm not playing Bag a Legend, I've heard they're against the Vake and other things that go bump in the night, yes? I don't see anything bad about that -- even if they're only doing it for their own glory or some petty vendetta, they're still making London safer. So either Jenny is genuine, which is a good thing... or she's furthering her secret agenda, which is also a good thing. Or possibly, both at the same time. I don't see a downside here. -- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome. My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?" I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one! Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/12/2016	Hear hear. Fincar, I've deleted your offending post - I hope and trust you'll display some decorum next time, and I'll remind all present that "sex worker" is indeed the polite term. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Fincar Posts: 41 7/12/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Hear hear. Fincar, I've deleted your offending post - I hope and trust you'll display some decorum next time, and I'll remind all present that "sex worker" is indeed the polite term. Sorry didnt mean to be offensive. I will keep that in mind in future posts. -- A person of some little importance... really I am open to most forms of social interactions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Fincar
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Chiltern Posts: 19 7/12/2016	if only all of this new fervour against Jenny would start translating to votes in the straw poll. >.> (Vote the Bishop of Southwark! The man who will demand full transparency of himself in all of his dealings, and the only candidate who isn't doing anything sneaky!) -- Am open to all social actions in good faith. Duplicitous acquaintances will be summarily snubbed. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Chiltern
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Grenem wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Rereading the Contrarian's flash lay and it doesn't seem so much a hostile takeover as a turnover directed from the top. Perhaps the Contrarian saw he was losing and invited Feb and company to come and give it the old college try. Really? Really? I've seen dead skulls with better vision, and then i traded them for a ray-drenched cinder! This sounds like a willing turnover?: "Those staff trusted by the Contrarian have taken over the upper floors. They are refusing access to a horde of fresh - and especially fervent - supporters." This sounds like the contrarian is doing it willingly?: "The Contrarian will come to see the error of his present folly." edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 Often campaigns have tensions between different sections of the staff and officers will boast about influence they do not in fact possess. The fact that the old staff are still around but Feb is the campaign manager indicates that the change was ordered from the top. Thinking about it further, the tensions in the Contrarian's campaign were heavily foreshadowed from the very beginning. Their banners are different, though to the outsider they might appear identical, and there is explicit mentions of infighting: The Jovial Contrarian’s supporters comprise a merry throng. The midnight blue and starless black banners they hold aloft flutter cheerily. Disparate elements of the electorate have come together to advance the Contrarian’s cause, though predictably, they disagree vehemently as to its nature. The Contrarian’s is a growing and argumentative movement. It has, as they say, momentum. Which makes sense. After all, how harmonious can a coalition that contains LoN Revolutionaries (change everything!) and Reactionary Tomb Colonists (everything as it once was!) actually be? The RB Manager was probably a Blue (he's more ancient then the oldest tomb colonist, so probably a reactionary?), arguing the Contrarian would have to side with the Bazaar against the Liberation. February is a Black, telling the Contrarian he has to side with the Liberation against the Bazaar. The Contrarian and his closest supporters - lets call them the Greys as the Contrarian's poster is Grey - believe in a third way between these two extremes, but they need the Blues and Blacks. Now all these factions rather dislike each other and have very different agendas. The Blues were in a privileged position when the Manager was there, but the Contrarian felt he had to shake things up and bring in February's crowd. But his using her does not mean he agrees with her. And all of this naturally fits what we know of the Contrarian, a man who alternatively undermines (Photographer) and helps (Faction Card) the Revolutionaries. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/12/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/11/2016	Sandi Gummy wrote: If I am new, it doesn't matter who I vote for right? Everything counts in large amounts. But choose whoever you think is best. ^_^ (Suinicide's right, btw. Don't worry about pouring too much effort into election-type stuff while you're still exploring the game. In any case, welcome to Fallen London! ^_^ ) edited by Kittenpox on 7/11/2016 -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/11/2016	Did nobody else notice that the Church has withdrawn its support for the Bishop. His funds now come through St Dunstan's - a place involved with the Soul Trade and therefore, imo, probably a more devilish involvement than before. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/11/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: The Bishop is the only one who's sticking to fidelity and his principles. He's furiously rejected infernal donators and their funding now. He's a man of honor. lady ciel wrote: Did nobody else notice that the Church has withdrawn its support for the Bishop. His funds now come through St Dunstan's - a place involved with the Soul Trade and therefore, imo, probably a more devilish involvement than before. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/11/2016	New Flash Lay result for The Contrarian's campaign reveals a familiar face. Jenny's new Flash Lay result just raises more questions about what she's up to. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/11/2016	Was the Contrarian definitely spending funds to other campaigns solely to sink his own ship? Or was it simply because he's being his usual argumentative self? Also, is February truly in charge of his campaign or is she only attempting to do so as of yet? I'm asking because, from I got from the text, it seemed a bit...vague. Probable, yes, but nothing definite. It seemed like there were implications, but just right below the level of air-tight. I can't say that I approve if his campaign really isn't his campaign anymore, though. Sure, he was bound to have issues with his separate future of London from that of the Calendar Council and his supporters would certainly have tried to muscle in their influence. But to hijack his nomination and declare him a compromised candidate halfway through the election? All I can say is that I hope we are wrong about just how much power February has over his people and what his intentions are for spending his funds. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/11/2016 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Guest 7/11/2016	It isn't complicated! Vote on the issues, not on personal character. The Bishop cares only about his fight with Hell and the devils, condemning the soul trade and those who have sold their souls. He doesn't care one bit about feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, which is what leads many to sell their souls in the first place. He would be an authoritarian theocrat, unkind and unjust. The Contrarian is embroiled in a political struggle between the Bazaar and the Revolution, trying to find a Third Way between those two, to the exclusion of all else. That is no doubt very important, but what happens to the people while the major players are fighting it out for their utopian or dystopian grand visions? There is only one candidate who is in it for the people. Prostitutes, urchins, workers, beggars, thieves, addicts, merchants, spivs: these are our people. That's where our priorities should lie, not in the ideological debates of the upper classes. So what if she uses blackmail and extortion to drive her campaign? I say, 'Good!' I applaud her ruthlessness. It's not as if she's blackmailing or extorting the poor, is it? I think it's wonderful for the toffs to be exploited for a change, instead of doing the exploiting! 'Vote Jenny, Or You're A Git!'
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/12/2016	The difference between Victorian steampunk ethic and aesthetic boils down to whether people in top hats and monocles are the villains of the story. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/9/2016	PJ wrote: Ok, I've hit level 20 of fixerhood. Now what? You have three options: 1. Declare victory. You are at the campaign cap, and cannot improve your candidate's odds by campaigning further. Any further election materials you gather should go down a well- i mean, turned in for cash, ignore my silly slip of the tongue. 2. Explore the content and gather public attention to gain making waves and notability at a slow pace. (notability also affects your impact in some way. it's an additive bonus to your vote, quite likely @ 1 lv. notability = +1 lv. campaign) 3. Gather notability quickly and at great expense by using all the "I need MW in a hurry" options edited by Grenem on 7/9/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/8/2016	Sara Hysaro wrote: You should be getting both from it; Delmar's been almost exclusively using Flash Lays to get those two as he's an Agitator. Ah, I just managed another round and got both. I must have either misread something or done an Investigation instead by accident. The perils of grinding! You stop paying attention and pull the wrong grind altogether. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Lisbella Peridot Posts: 138 7/7/2016	Too bad Election doesn't have Pickpocket's Promenade instead of Flash Lay, the Promenade is more frantic and exciting in my opinion. -- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now. Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation. I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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NinjaComedian Posts: 202 7/6/2016	Blaine Davidson wrote: I'm not sure why everyone is panicking over the Fixer class. I only did the Flash Lays to get the lore and received the rest of my Dirty Secrets from Opportunity Cards. The "disadvantages" of Fixers isn't so bad. Plus, I'm excited to see what I'll be able to use my accumulated Public Attention for. Well, it all comes down to if the RNG is kind enough to give you those cards, doesn't it? I've gotten all my Dirty Secrets - except maybe one - from Flash Lays because I think since Monday I've only drawn a card that gives them once. I've never even seen the Campaign Resources card yet. But I'm doing alright as a Fixer. Made it to level 9 already and about to get to 10, so I can't complain. The boots can wait until next year I guess - I'm not spending half my progress to swap for them now. And I'm looking forward to using up the Public Attention when I can trade that in for whatever it is I can trade it for later too.
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dov Posts: 2580 7/7/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: failbetter why do you do this to me Very impressive! I try to get all items (and especially all companions), but sadly at some point I had to stop and consider the amount of real world money I spend on Fate and set myself some budget limitations. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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SmallFish Posts: 62 7/18/2016	Conrad Baltar wrote: The announcement of who has triumphed is now available in game It would be nice to have the final tally of votes though.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/18/2016	One Favour, plus 5*(career level +1) Journals + career level Statements -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/18/2016	The rewards are, in my opinion, disappointing. I expected more. At least a single scrap item, or something unique to the election. I guess we still have to see what the opportunity card is (I hope it isn't, like, 1 EPA and nothing else.). -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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genesis Posts: 924 7/18/2016	It's way too raw. I strongly encourage you not to go there (especially if you are not British). -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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Koh Kai Ying Posts: 110 7/14/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Too young! FDR was 12 in 1894! future urchins candidate spotted -- Illyria K is your friend!! More active nowadays. Eager for any social actions including Loitering!
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/14/2016	Too young! FDR was 12 in 1894! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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thedeadlymoose Posts: 214 7/13/2016	Just to say: I really enjoy the writing for this storyline. I think it's pretty well hit out of the park. The storyline uses the trope of "all sides are bad, now pick one", which has been used a lot in games and usually is terrible. However, while not all people may agree, I think it's done really well here, because everyone is so entertaining, and what's going on is pretty fascinating. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Eris~Jay http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Red~Rose
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/13/2016	Not know if they have been replaced. Have no campaign card in hand. Screenshots from 4th July for 3 candidates: Jenny Contrarian Bishop edited by Fadewalker on 7/13/2016 -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/13/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: Once again, the mayor probably isn't going to have that much of an effect beyond a card or two. Probably not, but FUD isn't based on clear probabilities and outcomes. Some people seem honestly upset about the election. Great job on FB's behalf for getting investment into the event, but I'm not finding it to be much fun.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/13/2016	MrHarley wrote: What I am missing here is talk about why people had their characters pick the candidate they picked (rather than this... far too heated debate as if this was some kind of real ethical choice that affects real people? I mean, come on). But maybe I can find that in some other topic? It is easy to RP too hard and get emotional in all the wrong places. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/14/2016	This is the first time the event has happened, so we're all guessing to an extent. There may be a day or two's grace to cash out extra resources, but I couldn't guarantee that, so I'd say cash them all out on the last day. After all, they will almost certainly be removed at some point so people won't have a head start for the next year. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/13/2016	Angus mistrusts Jenny and the Sisterhood. As someone who doesn't have the Bag-a-Legend ambition he's only vaguely aware of their goals, and mostly sees them as a foreign power attempting to gain political capital on the backs of the poor and downtrodden. Everything he learned about Jenny and her methods only fueled those suspicions further. The Bishop is someone he's personally very fond of and he mostly agrees with him. He still doesn't support him, partly because he doesn't think he'll be able to competently advance his goals, partly because he believes London should not move against Hell just yet. But the most important reason Angus isn't in the Bishop's camp is that he guards his true beliefs and opinions carefully. He tries to be amicable towards Hell and its servants, and supporting the Bishop would go too far towards betraying his true colours. That leaves the Contrarian, Angus's chosen candidate. He's afraid supporting the Contrarian might cast him as supportive of the revolutionaries (which he is) and so tries to justify his support by casting his choice in a more abstract manner - true self governance! Debate and logic! All that fun stuff. The recent division in his camp and the Contrarian's seeming desire to lose only strengthened his resolve- it's not clear what so vehemently supporting the Contrarian even says about Angus, at this point. And for someone who tries to keep his true allegiances as vague as possible, that's just the way he likes it. and also because of a voice at the edge of sleep carried over dark waters -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/13/2016	Johny Topside wrote: Theoretically, perhaps, but that would mean the end of the game, and in FBG have created this seasonal event as a stealth excuse to close down Fallen London, I'll eat my least-favourite hat. Would it still be considered 'seasonal' content if it's the last of its kind? The Season of Revolution that brought an end to the thrones of Hell was also 'seasonal content'. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/13/2016	I don't own a sombrero, but if I did, it would be pretty high on my hat rankings. My least-favourite hat is actually an old pork-pie that doesn't suit me - so at least it's shaped like food, I suppose? -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Sinnouk Posts: 62 7/13/2016	MidnightVoyager wrote: Is new text for the opp cards a thing? Someone mentioned it, and then nobody talked about it. And I just can't pull the dang cards. Sara Hysaro wrote: For what it's worth I've played both the free option and the election option on two separate cards and noticed no new text on either of them. MidnightVoyager wrote: Thanks! Guess it was a false alarm. I can't pull any of those cards to save my life. Just some very minor, minor stuff. Jenny went from [spoiler]Jenny's ladies and gentlemen are on the streets today, draped in scarlet sashes, laden down with campaign literature and flanked by midnight-habited nuns. A troupe of poets in white dress shirts and carmine waistcoats brings up the rear. to Jenny’s scarlet-sashed ladies and gentlemen dominate the streets. Their numbers have swelled over the last week. Jenny has, her supporters like to say, painted London red. When Jenny walks in the procession, she is always flanked by midnight-habited nuns and a troupe of poets in white dress shirts and carmine waistcoats bring up the rear.[/spoiler]since she's currently leading and all. Just drew Contrarian's, nothing's change. Guessing Bishop's the same too? edited by Sinnouk on 7/13/2016 -- Theron Bidwell Urie: the Distrait Dabbler, hat-less unfortunate no more! gronostaj wrote: If the Implacable Detective Wins… I go to jail! And you go to jail! And you go to jail, yes, you too! Everyone goes to jail!
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/12/2016	Is new text for the opp cards a thing? Someone mentioned it, and then nobody talked about it. And I just can't pull the dang cards. Maybe someone can make a topic for stuff like... I dunno, election mechanics updates and new changes and text and stuff. I would have thought the place for that would be this thread, but it's getting absolutely drowned in the arguments. edited by MidnightVoyager on 7/12/2016 -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/12/2016	Little The wrote: morporkia wrote: Little The wrote: I'm a bit surprised people are so quick to rail against Jenny. Ask yourselves: What's the worst-case scenario here? That this is all a con and she's actually only in it to get power for herself? Well then, what's she going to use that power for? Most likely, to empower Abbey Rock... and while I'm not playing Bag a Legend, I've heard they're against the Vake and other things that go bump in the night, yes? I don't see anything bad about that -- even if they're only doing it for their own glory or some petty vendetta, they're still making London safer. So either Jenny is genuine, which is a good thing... or she's furthering her secret agenda, which is also a good thing. Or possibly, both at the same time. I don't see a downside here. The downside is that you are correct, and that there really isn't much negative portrayal of Jenny as opposed to the Bishop/Contrarian (she's a politician! Running for Mayor! The horror!), so if you were a supporter of one of the other two candidates you may, at this point, be feeling somewhat put out. I was expecting a bit more parity. Where's the fun in an election with one clear answer? I have to agree with this, actually. Things really seem stacked in Jenny's favor -- the others have secret agendas too, but they're ones that most people would probably be opposed to. Jenny's secret agenda doesn't seem nearly as sinister as the Liberation of Night or invading Hell or publicizing the soulless. Even the worst possible interpretation of the latest text -- her fencing secrets for pure profit -- is just garden-variety corruption. Given that the playerbase almost certainly seems to lean liberal, I would have expected the writers to make things a little harder for her. :p edited by Little The on 7/12/2016 I think that's a rather subjective assessment. The Bishop has been trolled by devils, has a tragic past, and is rather ruthless when it comes to suppressing the soul trade (my character fully approves of said ruthlessness btw). The Contrarian has an unsteady coalition of quarreling supporters with very differing ideas, some of them quite terrible. Jenny is personally treacherous, corrupt, and apparently committing treason. How bad each of these are depends on how much weight they are collectively given and there was no guarantee certain secrets would be weighted worse than others. I think the Contrarian and the Bishop only seem to have gotten the short end of the stick because Jenny is ahead and has always been the favorite to win. A large number of players apparently like her well enough to excuse her faults (whether that lead holds up remains to see). If, say, the Contrarian were ahead, Jenny's supporters would likely be gashing their teeth over all the revelations of their candidate's personal malfeasance, asking why the Contrarian got to be honorable and sincere and why no one cares about the Revolutionary influence? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/12/2016	I wonder whether we'll get a second round of Apples of Discord. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	Chris Gardiner wrote: In case this is for some reason unclear: if you report a bug, it is not then ok to exploit it four hundred and twenty six times. It is perhaps not wrong - but is probably unwise - to complain on the forum when the proceeds of said serial exploit go missing. Matter's settled, folks! No need for a pile-on. Please forgive the interruption and resume your rhetoric, vote-rigging, blackmail, bribery, and jerrymandering! That's fair Chris. I didn't mean to be cross. Believe it or not, I did think this may have affected others and wished to clarify. Not just complain. And while it can be argued that election profiteering could be considered the best spirit of Fallen London (joking), I accept I misstepped and you are correct (barring my quibbles with the public shame aspect, which isn't surprising considering I'm the one receiving haha). We shan't have a repeat, I assure you. Atticus is off to a well-earned trip to the Tomb Colonies. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Guest 7/12/2016	Sara Hysaro wrote: No insults, please. We should be polite and civil, and telling people they are gits for voting for a candidate you don't support is neither. Fair enough, sorry MrBurnside wrote: Dubinee Finnat wrote: Snip Johny Topside wrote: Also, say what you will about the attendees of the Parlor of Virtue but they likely don't deserved to be blackmailed by the very prostitute they paid. In my opinion, that's exactly what they deserve. Snip May I ask what they deserve it for? For attending? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, but you haven't made it yet, and yet you seem to assume agreement. Perhaps letting us in on your reasoning would lessen opposition. I don't want to over-politicise the discussion (which is weird, when it's about a political campaign!). Suffice to say that sex work is not an equitable transaction, but a callous exploitation of disadvantage. I quote: "If prostitution is a free choice, why are the women with the fewest choices the ones most often found doing it?" It's not unlike paying homeless men to fight each other for money. You could argue that you're not physically forcing them to do it, that they are free to refuse, and so on, but really? I think most of us would agree that it is Not A Very Nice Thing To Do At All, wouldn't we? Not to mention the hypocrisy of a society that condemns sex workers morally in public, while privately exploiting them for selfish pleasure. A society that treats people as if they were things, and then blames them for it. What could be more fair than for them to be used as they have used others? Even then it's hardly the same thing: all it's costing them is money and influence, both of which they have to spare. It's not only what they deserve, it's the least of what they deserve. I don't want to start any polemics, though. I honestly thought this was something that wouldn't need explaining, because we're all on the same page.
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Blaine Davidson Posts: 388 7/6/2016	I'm not sure why everyone is panicking over the Fixer class. I only did the Flash Lays to get the lore and received the rest of my Dirty Secrets from Opportunity Cards. The "disadvantages" of Fixers isn't so bad. Plus, I'm excited to see what I'll be able to use my accumulated Public Attention for. -- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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An Individual Posts: 589 7/5/2016	Flyte wrote: ...In the longer term we'd actually like to make careers more asymmetrical, and provide mechanical incentives for everyone to explore more of the content – rather than giving each career a single optimal grind... I'm glad to hear that. After spending a bunch of time writing short stories yesterday I've been branching out to acquire resources from other sources like investigations because, while the short story route is optimal for my career, you see basically nothing of the election content itself. I've been enjoying revisiting things I hadn't done in a long time like attending parties (I haven't done that since I joined K&C) and I look forward to firing up the dusty presses of my newspaper again. I like the breadth of this festival and the variety of mechanics in incorporates. Moving away from mechanics that encourage players to only do one thing can only help it (although I'm sure there will be grumbling). -- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/6/2016	Ok, after assembling most of the lore here is my interpretation of the current canidates and various reasons for supporting them. Keep in mind this is CONJECTURE and I have no idea what I'm talking about. Sinning Jenny: SJ is finally making her move, she's been biding her time under the protection of Mr. Wines for a while but has seen an opportunity to form her own base of power. She has assembled a portfolio of secrets, Vake Hunting Nuns, and is building her support base on making a better London. While ultimately, this is all about Sinning Jenny getting what she wants I don't doubt her campaign slogan. After all, striking out and away from Mr. Wines will put her in some danger unless she can maintain her powerbase for a period of time. Her goal is to get elected, get powerful, and keep the people happy enough to keep electing her. Voting for Jenny is truly voting for Jenny, and she might help everyone else out too as long as its in her best interest. Its not a vote for the Masters, unfortunately. If SJ looses, she'll try to sneak back under Wine's skirts but who knows if he'll have her back. Bishop of Southwark: BoS is running on a campaign of religious fervor against Devils, funded by...Devils? Indeed, the Devils are funding the Bishop partly in jest and party because they just do not understand BoS's hatred of them. While some may claim this taints his campaign, the Bishop is a staunch soul and would never knowingly advance the agenda of hell. Unknowingly? He does it a fair bit, and the Devils have possessed church spies for quite some time. If the Bishop wins, he'll do his best to stomp out the devils...but by then I bet the Devil's will have a plan and make sure his actions are benefiting them in some strange way. A vote for the bishop is simultaniously for and against the devils, which is hysterical and just the way Hell likes it. Lets hope it doesn't blow up in Hell's face. If the Bishop loses, we don't see the hell vs church storyline continue but no harm is done to either party. The Jovial Contrarian: TJC is known to argue every side of an arguement, and is both for stability and against the unquestioned rule of the masters. For the Revolution and against the Liberation, which makes him a far saner man than most in that coalition of rebels. TJC's campaign may seem like a joke to some, but behind it is the man's very serious attempt to find a third way. One that is neither Liberation or the Master's Tyranny. A vote for the Jovial Contrarian is a vote for a third way and hopefully a way to prevent the Liberation of Knight. However, victory could be dangerous. For if TJC finds that he cannot lead the city to his third way or is argued out of his position, having a known revolutionary in charge could be dangerous. Not having him in charge could also be dangerous, as he could abandon his idea of a third way and commit fully to the cause. All three have ups and downs of voting them in, I wonder whoever shall win. -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/6/2016	Amelia Syrus wrote: Mordaine Barimen wrote: getting the card for the Flash Lay is always chancy, I fear. So then it doesn't automatically end at 75? 75 is the minimum requirement to end the flash lay. You can then use the card to do so. I usually keep it at hand as soon as I draw it (even if it's very early in the flash lay). It only ends automatically at 100. edited by miss_all_sunday on 7/6/2016 -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/6/2016	Will there be any materials rewards for your character if you run your Election Career to 20? Some of my friends are not far from beginners in fallen london; they find it a little tough advancing the career. -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/5/2016	I think your assumption that you should play without looking things up is erroneous if you're interested in stats maximisation, because you very much should in that case. Whereas if you're just playing casually/for roleplaying, then it doesn't matter if you're optimising or not, because it's a flexible enough game that you can reach all your goals eventually. -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/5/2016	I'm sure no punishment was intended. This is the very first day of the very first election, and I'm sure FBG will be reading feedback and making changes where needed in response. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Basically, you have two versions of the Advance Your Career card. The first version is the tutorial version with a "I don't want this card in my hand" option. It is automatically drawn for you the moment you select a career and candidate. The second version is a card with Abundant frequency. It has no requirement, so even people who hasn't picked a career will draw it. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/5/2016	There are definitely secrets and mysteries surrounding all the candidates. Hopefully there will be ways to learn more as the Election progresses. So far I still favour Sinning Jenny [spoiler] nothing wrong with a spot of blackmail to fund her campaign [/spoiler] -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/5/2016	[spoiler]"Trying to bait the humans into starting something they can't finish" is usually a safe bet. At the same time, I do wonder...[/spoiler] -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Stygota Posts: 64 7/5/2016	absimiliard wrote: [spoiler] My impression was that it's not relating to the old aristocracy at Mt. Palmerston. I thought Sir Tanah-Chook had it right, just another game of "bait the humans" -- with disastrous results for London and much good for Hell.[/spoiler] This little tidbit about the Bishop and his supporters, the theme of the current ES arc being the season of revolutions, and the "coincidence" that a mayoral election is going on do have me wondering though... edited by Stygota on 7/5/2016 -- A once hungry, now sated* Hunter with a silver tongue*: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Stygota
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Double actions, double clickings (because ???) Incorrect game instruction text (but the outcome is still useful for other careers) Alternative avenues of progress for other careers and variety (only fixers excluded) The least competitive career-specific item (I myself don't care about that two points of Watchful, but this is like a sour cherry on the top) I really appreciate what you guys are trying to do with this festival because it is a huge undertaking, but this imbalance sucks. The candidates and all the little touches and intrigues are full of heart, but this really sucks. And no, the rest of you please don't bring out the "asymmetrical design" argument, because Campaigners and Agitators have their asymmetrical-ness done well. Mins-Maximizing is still a kind of min-maxing edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/5/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/5/2016	A short story of ~60 quality can be written without spending one Echo on items, and will have a ~70% chance of passing the Potential check. All of this talk about spending money on stories confuses me. It must be a concern for those who wish to make most efficient use of their actions. As for Fixer, at least they have the option to use all three of the methods to gain points for their candidates, thus get to experience all the content. But as Short Stories, Investigations, and Flash Lays are also always available, this is not so big a deal. From the standpoint of game design, it is odd the devs chose one career path that did not have a single option to achieve its goals, and I wonder if they have some intention down the road to compensate for this. We all play FL for different reasons, I guess. One can go to town (so to speak) making spreadsheets and min/maxing items, actions, and echoes. To each his own, but I came here to roleplay, first and foremost. If that means a sub-optimal choice in mechanical terms, that's life in the big city. But the work done by the min-maxers and spreadsheet-makers is extraordinarily useful, and also helps one figure out how to access the most content. All credit to them! -- Mal edited by malthaussen on 7/5/2016 -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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M. Cinder Posts: 25 7/4/2016	On the matter of support, Jenny actually seems to align more with my character's goals, and less prone to doing something horrible than the two.
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/4/2016	Frankly, I'd prefer that all the items were shoes or something whose slot is not filled by another Festival (maybe an awesome hat?). There are many weapons and spouses due to the other excellent gifts of the Seasons. But I'm going to keep off reading this thread so I can attempt to make the rest of my choices in some sort of narrative isolation. It's hard to enjoy the text while trying to preoptimize everything. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/4/2016	My character would never support the Calendar council. He knows what those revolutionaries are really up to and would gladly see them all dead if he thought he could pull it off. edited by Kukapetal on 7/4/2016
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Barnaby Posts: 20 7/4/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: Barnaby wrote: Kukapetal wrote: My character holds Mr. Veils responsible for the death of someone he loved. Ever thought about working with Calendar Council then? Give a shot to the Contrarian (please not literally) and maybe you'll even see the Masters fall. Have you actually investigated the Contrarian? I'm just trying to sway people in a horribly dirty way. -- Cleavers, guns, mandrakes and a gentlemanly hat. Sort of. Request tutelage in Hunting a Certain Quarry at your own risk.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/4/2016	Yes, as it stands, being a Fixer is terrible compared to the other options. twice the work, no boots, et cetera. Hopefully we will get something to make up for it later, but as is, it stinks. Sorry. Signed, a fellow Fixer. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Appolonia wrote: Could someone explain to me how to convert a compelling short story, once written, into public attention? I wrote the story but baffled what to do next. Go to the Election Storylet - there's an action to do so. You will see a clickable icon mixed in with the little requirement icons - click it - and you get a list of stories to sacrifice. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/4/2016	@Sarah: I think the campaign jobs are volunteerism, so they shouldn't have any affect on your day job. @Amelia: Avoid the temptation! Play your character! -- Mal edited by malthaussen on 7/4/2016 -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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spacecatte Posts: 42 7/4/2016	decided to kick this whole thing off with some muckracking, since I've been curious about the deeper connections the candidate's have. my first target was the contrarian. [spoiler]to no one's surprise, he is definitely being pushed as the Calendar Council's candidate. A little more surprisingly, he seems to know about the LoN, and disagrees with it, his notes containing &quotThe light need not necessarily go out.&quot Another surprising feature is that he seems to be refusing some of the CC's donations, crossing all the most recent one out. I have an echo for anyone who wants it.[/spoiler] edited by spacecatte on 7/4/2016 edited by spacecatte on 7/4/2016 -- "That cat is walking around in a space suit." The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things. Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/4/2016	To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Barnaby Posts: 20 7/4/2016	Zoe DeGeest wrote: I haven't made any progress yet as a Campaigner (can't see Zoe doing subtle things like an agitator or a fixer), so I am not sure which camp should I go for... Why not Zoidberg? Although if you cannot decide, I duly suggest the Contrarian, the only candidate truly willing to aid the people of London. A man of wit, intelligence ad empathy, a man of experience who advocates whatever is required by Londoners and helps them in realizing their problems and the necessary solutions themselves. I warn you against Jenny's rhetoric; while she claims to be a people's lady, she in fact is a ruthless commander of killers, who is prepared to do anything to get in power, even waging open conflict with the Bazaar, which would tear London apart. On the Bishop I wouldn't waste too much words. He is he flagship of the fight against Hell, sponsored by Hell. A fraud. I trust you in casting your vote responsibly, having London's future in your mind. -- Cleavers, guns, mandrakes and a gentlemanly hat. Sort of. Request tutelage in Hunting a Certain Quarry at your own risk.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/4/2016	Something to note most people haven't mentioned, and likely do not know: the three types of progress qualities- dirty secrets, public attention and convincing rhetoric- are not only available from certain reliable sources (flash lays, detective investiagations and short stories) but also from the election side cards, which currently have standard frequency. These seem to cost about 5 echoes in items, meaning they're a pretty good deal. Public attention from the bishop, Convincing rhetoric from the contrarian, and presumably, dirty secrets from sinning jenny. Ironically, each of these seems to resemble taking action against that faction- which means you can help the bishop win the campaign by bombarding him with fruit, vegetables and eggs. According to the wiki, there's also a frequent frequency card where you trade a few echoes in goods and a favor from a faction for another one of the three progress qualities. don't neglect your deck! edited by Grenem on 7/4/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 7/4/2016	plasmid wrote: I see that most of you heathens are supporting Jenny the sinner , or that 'moderate revolutionary' of a stateman. this won't do, i say, this just won't do. everyone that was half a mile from a servant of the masters know that London doesn't have long before the next city, and everyone with half an ear heard how London fall to the neath. trying to stay in this rotting city would save no soul, sinner or saint. the only solution is to do what the good folks of our nation were meant to do- to colonize, to expend! and the bishop is the expert on that matter, and in these very moment is giving citizens of London the option to prepare themselves and the city to us reclaiming our future! what other candidate will allow us to freely breed and own fire splitting lobsters, claw-horses and correspondence serpents? what other candidate will fund peoples honest attempt to inform the public about the horror tale that is hell's trireme? and what other candidate will take on every other candidate in the ring, at anytime, at any date, in the Churchmania?! only the Bishop of Southwark will! Here, here! Only His Grace can save us from Hell and reclaim London from the Masters! -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/4/2016	Barnaby wrote: Morkan Kassington wrote: Are you sure the people who told you to suck it up are the same people who are talking about the imbalances? You need to chill, too, even if I agree that you can still have fun from this. I am more concerned about Fixers being weak, since if the players score are matched against each other it is a problem. It's not the profession which run against each other. I assume every side has its own fixer problem. People who picked Fixers still doesn't deserve to need to do double the work for their own vote, however. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Professor Strix Posts: 616 7/4/2016	As far as I've seen, as a Campaigner, I have the exact same "problem" as a Fixer: I'm grinding echoes like mad to advance three expensive storylines I'm embroiled with, so I'm not feeling like throwing everything in the blender to write lots of short stories. Which means that I have to grind Public Attention from the flash lay and the Convincing Speech from investigation. As far as I have played, Campaigners just have it easy if they are able/willing to spend epic amounts of money in short stories. The only job that have it 'easy' is Agitator, because they only need flash lays, but flash lays aren't exactly short and easy. In terms of fun you are going to have with grinding, Fixer is not that bad of an option if you are not a rich, stat-capped player and the item they get is cool. I think the reputation the job got was greatly undeserved. About equipment: yes, the boots are good and all, but not every player is an end game player obsessed with efficiency. There's nothing wrong with wanting cool things that aren't practical just because they are cool (says the madgirl with 300+ sulky bats she doesn't plan to ever sell), after all, practical items can be gained a way or another. Today those boots are the best watchful boots, tomorrow, they may put a polythreme living boot or something with the same boost (or similar) and problem solved. About the competitive aspect of rich campaigners having it 'easy', well, all candidates have their rich campaigners. As someone stated, the jobs don't play against each other, it's a team effort for your shared candidate. As in real life, some people have money to throw at their candidate, other people have hard work. Both make a difference. I chose Campaigner for my main and Fixer for my alt, and I have spent exactly the same amount of actions with each one, doing the exact same things. I don't regret either choice. So there's that. -- The Inescapable Professor, London's Most Academic Detective. Open to consultation from Mondays to Fridays, above the Silver Binding bookshop, Veilgarden. Half the payment in advance, half after closing the case. No refunds. "THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used." --------- Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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knguy Posts: 70 7/4/2016	If I'm not provided a way to never be a Fixer again then I'll probably have to denounce the whole campaign at some point. Ok, maybe not, but I'm stuck with this crappy job now. RIP any chance of campaign participation. I'm going to focus solely on my Notability now. -- "Knguy" - a rich, well connected, and steadfast gentleman. Terribly indulgent. Cunningly charming. Prone to zeezickness. "No CP waste." Have mysteries or need to gain second chances? Send me requests! High Shadowy/Persuasive. (yes, I loiter) Nightmares/Suspicion woes? Stop hesitating! Let me know and I'll take care of those issues! I am a Crooked-Cross! Invite me to your Salon. Convenient wikia link
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/18/2016	A triumph of storytelling! Thanks, FB. I'm amused to see the monetary rewards being exactly the same regardless of our candidate. After Fixer-gate, those who were upset at the unfair variety must be quite pleased! Candidates having a word with us disappointed sponsors is a nice touch. One suggestion if I may; offer the person we voted for as a Connection? To be called upon at some future point, but for now it will simply act as a placeholder and a badge of honour, whether they won or not. And finally, are you able to publish actual voting figures? P.S. I'm relieved to see all of our Notoriety wasn't eaten by the vote, considering it contributed to the vote in some undefined way. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/4/2016	Found out about the Fixer thing immediately after I'd begun & had already picked Fixer. :-( Serves me right for not checking the forums first I guess. Pretty damn disappointing though. -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/4/2016	Does anyone know what the faction cards do? [and yes, there are faction cards, i just drew the contrarian's. it's a 1-action source of compelling rhetoric, or of a certain quantity of letters.] -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Barnaby Posts: 20 7/4/2016	Kukapetal wrote: I know I'm going to be unpopular for this post, but as someone who CONSTANTLY gets the game's middle finger shoved in her face due to her RPing choices, as well as constantly told to suck it up because that's just how the game is, I can't help but find those of you crying about how your RPing choices screwed you out of a pair of super speshul boots to be a little over the top. Sometimes RPing decisions screw you out of easier challenges or better loot. Apparently that's just the way the game is, and if I have to suck it up constantly, the rest of you should be able to suck it up for one event. Heck, you don't even know if Fixer will remain a crappy job forever. Maybe the writers will offer some sort of great reward for Fixers somewhere down the line. It's only the first day of the Election season. Cool your jets :P I think I might be the one of the few who will actually enjoy RPing her way through the election, since, as I'm usually punished by the game anyway, I've stopped caring about trying to get good results and can therefore just try to enjoy the experience. Now that so many of you are brief visitors into MY world of disappointment, I suggest you try to do the same. You'll still be screwed, but you might at least have some fun. The day this game becomes WoW with all the bloody grinding and people overlooking the lore and favouring the naked stats will come if RPing is shoved aside. And why else are we here, godd___t? Couldn't agree more with you. (Says the non-fixer, but still.) -- Cleavers, guns, mandrakes and a gentlemanly hat. Sort of. Request tutelage in Hunting a Certain Quarry at your own risk.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Parelle wrote: Frankly, I'd prefer that all the items were shoes or something whose slot is not filled by another Festival (maybe an awesome hat?). There are many weapons and spouses due to the other excellent gifts of the Seasons. Election: The New Master, Mr Shoes Nah, I'd prefer this to min-maxing shoes fashion show. Although actually recycling the ES portraits for random people is a tremendously good step, I say. On the other hand I am surprised they went to recycle the Patroness first given how formidable they made her out to be. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/4/2016	Teaspoon wrote: We have a warmonger candidate, a candidate who's proud to be for nothing in particular, and a candidate who wants to make life better for the average Londoner. It may all be rhetoric, but consider - whose policies would you actually want enacted, were they to come true? The candidate who wants to make life better for the average londoner. so the jovial contrarian. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/4/2016	To be honest I don't think the election mechanics are suitable for newer players - Flash Lays; writing Short Stories and even investigating to a lesser extent are tricky if you haven't got the stats or resources. That doesn't even take into account that newspapers and parties are mentioned as sources for some things and that Notability will also count towards the results. They are also all action intensive so I do understand Fixers frustration in not being able to get the 2 things they need to progress by just doing one of them. But it is only the first day and I will wait and see what else turns up during the campaigning. I will explore all the options even the ones that don't give the qualities to progress my career just to see the text and find out as much about all the candidates as I can. I hope everybody can find some way to enjoy the election. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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dov Posts: 2580 7/4/2016	Angus Turner wrote: To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. But NiteBrite endorsed Jenny, so... -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/4/2016	Emain Ablach wrote: Johny Topside wrote: I want to support the Bishop, I really do, that fella's (I think) driven to stop Hell regardless of where his funding is coming from, but, that's about all he wants to do. Jenny on the other hand seems driven to help the poor (there's a colony of homeless children on our city's roofs). What do? The problem with the Bishop is A) he works with devils, how to trust him ? B) if he doesn't work with them, he takes their money anyway and thinks he will outsmart them ? Sadly, not a chance. C) if he doesn't even know devils are funding his campaign, that shows how informed he is. In any case, he seems (to me) either corrupted, stupid or unskilled. :'/ I don't even think he'd try to outsmart them, that's how intolerant of devils he is. If he knew, he'd 'power bomb' these devils through a nearby campaign platform. He's probably being duped, he's not one for forethought. (Another detractor). Unfortunately I just can't abandon the chance to widen that hole I blasted in the Brass Embassy last month. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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Sandicomm Posts: 16 7/4/2016	Hello, new to the boards! I've finally figured out how to get started in the storylet. Though I am leaving Veilgarden for more socially connected friends, I must pay tribute to my Bobemian friends and vote for Sinning Jenny. She cares for the poor, supports artists, and the Parlor of Virtue is certainly quite fun. Jenny stands for a London for humans! For Devils! For Neath creatures all! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Gap/Load?content=%2fStorylet%2fIn# A captivating, artistic, and slightly hedonistic lady. Seeking a patron in the art of Shadowy.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 7/4/2016	I like the fact that you can pick a candidate and free item, then immediately change allegiances and keep the item. It allows for some fun combinations (Hark currently has a Tomb-Colonist supporting the Bishop for example) -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Aegis1000 Posts: 64 7/4/2016	May I remind everyone that a vote for the Contrarian is a vote for what is best for London. I am sure everyone here will do the right thing. Perhaps a reminder that I know what you did in the Flit will help. -- Aegis1000,a midnight, sinister, inescapable and sagacious gentleman. Intent on taking over the world, or at least Fallen London. Indescribably awesome and only marginally narcissistic.
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Emain Ablach Posts: 348 7/4/2016	Shoes with best Watchful AND only respectable shoes in the game (from what someone said on IRC). Isn't it way better than the other rewards ? -- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
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Ben Posts: 657 7/4/2016	Oh, wow... Because I'm a fixer, and not a campaigner, Not only do I have the hardest job, but I can't even spend fate to get the item I want. I can't even spend fate to change my job to be able to get it. ... sad oh well... I'll just take that much more pride in doing the hard work and getting what I get. -- The wind has no destination. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
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Paflick Posts: 29 7/4/2016	Those boots are currently the highest watchful boost for footwear in the game. The next best are +3, and are from the advent calendar at Sacksmas. The only other watchful footwear are +2, from the mysterious benefactor storyline. -- Pleased to make your acquaintance! A party made up of Paflick, Wilmont, Thaddeus Dorschine, and The Abominable Autophage
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M. Cinder Posts: 25 7/4/2016	Hmm, I've been aware of this coming up, but I'm still torn between the Jovial Contrarian and the Bishop of Southwark. I mean, Sinning Jenny's definitely out of the question since, well, I don't see her being fit to do anything except annoy Mr. Irons. In the past I wouldn't have cared for the Bishop, but I have found that Hell's influence had been nothing but trouble, and the Diocesan Intrigues have been awaiting some catalyst, like, say, the Bishop becoming Mayor. But the Jovial Contrarian's the most attractive option so far. He has a balanced view on things. That is, he has an unbalanced views on everything and so it cancels out. But nothing would ever get done without a dozen assassination attempts from peeved politicians. edited by M. Cinder on 7/4/2016
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/4/2016	Damn, knowing the devils are funding the bishop almost makes my Scarlet Saint want to vote for him. -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/5/2016	I am viewing my choice to be a fixer -- based on RP reasons -- to be a game-mechanics disaster. I also view it to be like Seeking. I probably wouldn't have chosen it knowing the game implications, but having done so I'm oddly proud to have chosen the "hose your character" option. It validates my desire to Seek when my character becomes boring. (better to burn out than fade away) -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/5/2016	Amelia Syrus wrote: I haven't chosen a career path for the election, mostly because rp wise I'm not sure if my character fits the role of a fixer or an agitator. But game wise I wouldn't mind choosing Fixer despite how unbalanced it is now. I like a challenge every now and then and I'm still early in POSI that anything that would take or push Making Waves or anything connected with it, wouldn't effect me terribly. I'm just uncertain which to go with. I felt the same way Amelia. For me it came down to deciding whether my Abs was going to be more disruptive of the other side or more supportive of their side. The Agitator feels like opposition researcher combined with special-ops. The Fixer felt more like ... well, like a Fixer -- so more a case of greasing wheels and making the campaign work. At that point the choice was fairly clear for me. My Abs is a hero -- albeit a tragic one -- so I went with the choice that let me help my team by being 'Our Hero' rather than disrupt the other teams, which would have made my Abs into a villain in their eyes. For my two cents, I think Amelia feels more Agitator than Fixer to me, but our interactions are likely not representative of your character as a whole, so take my two cents with an entire shaker of salt. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/5/2016	absimiliard wrote: I felt the same way Amelia. For me it came down to deciding whether my Abs was going to be more disruptive of the other side or more supportive of their side. The Agitator feels like opposition researcher combined with special-ops. The Fixer felt more like ... well, like a Fixer -- so more a case of greasing wheels and making the campaign work. At that point the choice was fairly clear for me. My Abs is a hero -- albeit a tragic one -- so I went with the choice that let me help my team by being 'Our Hero' rather than disrupt the other teams, which would have made my Abs into a villain in their eyes. For my two cents, I think Amelia feels more Agitator than Fixer to me, but our interactions are likely not representative of your character as a whole, so take my two cents with an entire shaker of salt. That's more or less why I'm having trouble deciding. I thought Fixer seemed like the person whose behind the scenes and tries to spread the word through a hushed tone. The "Plant a seed of doubt and watch it grow" sort and as a character she has done that before. On the other hand, fighting is a large part of her character and she likes being disruptive. So with that in mind, I think agitator feels like it would suit her more. I'll think on it some more but I think agitator might work better. Thanks. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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Dingosilver Posts: 2 7/5/2016	Yes, yes, that's all well and good, but which candidate is sympathetic to ratly concerns?
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/5/2016	It seems there isn't much going on now, so HAVE A CRAY-CRAY CHAT THEORY: [spoiler]We have theorized that the officer depicted in the painting of the Bishop's Flush Lay is, in fact, the greatest mitre-topped menace of London, the Bishop of Southwark. Furthermore, we have surmised that the Reformist Devil that shows you that painting may, in fact, be the poet that wrote the passionate lines on the bronze frame and the Bishop's ex-lover, which would explain the passion of the poet's writing and how the Reformist Devil got his lukewarm hands upon the piece. Perhaps, the unavoidable breakup between them lead to the Bishop taking up the cassock and becoming the force of human stupidity we see today.[/spoiler] edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 7/5/2016 -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Chris Gardiner wrote: I appreciate you're unhappy about fixers, Estelle. Consider that point made. Your signature and behaviour in this thread are unacceptably grumpy. You know we demand better from our forums. Please consider this a warning; further disruptive posts will incur a ban until the end of the festival. Welp, sorry about that. I was out of line. Màiread wrote: I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying how you guys have incorporated under used areas of existing content. I love that there are so many ways to get the festival qualities. I'm about to experience the polite invitation party for the first time; I haven't written a short story since my first month in FL, now I've done a bunch of them. I've never bothered to get a newspaper or do a flash lay before, but if I have time before the festival ends I'll be checking those out too. It feels invigorating, and a lot more fun than a bunch of new grinds. It also feels like the festival is much better integrated into London as a whole than, say, the Zee fruit festival. It's exciting! I would love to see some festival social actions, especially between opposing campaigns (this is my way of saying I want to prove Jenny's might by arm-wrestling the bishop's supporters). Although as one of the people who sort of broke Hallowmas last year I can see why you'd want to limit that. I am really surprised Pickpocket's Promenade did not make it in, despite it fitting Agitator's "face in the crowd" approach. (You'd think Flash Lay's the fixer kind of stuff, what kind of agitator sticks to one person?) Heists also didn't quite make it in, but for fairly good reason since it is going to cause mass confusion for newer players with the preparation mechanics. But I'd say no to social campaigns, because election is very much a quantity thing and quantity makes for poor RP (you are not going to get good RP with a thousand faces), plenty of clicking (you are not going to win over the regular folks) and weird story (ala Hallowmas where people wear all the ugly clothings to feed the Bazaar with lies). (Also because can you imagine consecutive 1000 people social campaigns from election to zee-fruits to hallowmas?) edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/5/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/5/2016	I haven't seen any options to change which profession you pick for the election, Fate-locked or otherwise. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Jackson Shea Posts: 8 7/4/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: DO NOT PICK FIXERS (Someone screamed at me to put this.) Well now I have to pick Fixer, working for the Contrarian and all. Besides, shouldn't one be willing to put in extra effort for a cause they truly care about? -- Jackson Shea, a player of the Game that accidentally grew a heart. The light need not necessarily go out. Always available for social actions. Will always try to talk you out of Seeking.
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/6/2016	Flyte wrote: In the longer term we'd actually like to make careers more asymmetrical, and provide mechanical incentives for everyone to explore more of the content – rather than giving each career a single optimal grind. We'll be giving Fixers a way to exploit their surplus Public Attention when we implement campaign resource trade ins later in the week. It's likely that we'll implement significantly more asymmetries in future years. Thankyou. -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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dov Posts: 2580 7/6/2016	Victor Alexander wrote: Indeed, the Devils are funding the Bishop partly in jest and party because they just do not understand BoS's hatred of them. Or, you know, because the Bishop's plans play right into their hands. The Bishop is preaching an invasion of Hell. Why wouldn't the devils support (or even encourage) this? Remember how the last invasion went? It was a major defeat to London, and the devils got lots of benefits from it (collected Souls, more people to enslave on their boats, diplomatic concessions including establishing a Hell embassy in London, etc.). If the Bishop loses, the devils get some amusement. If he wins, the devils might see all their wishes come true. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/6/2016	Don't forget about Faction cards when doing casework for Election Investigations! The Great Game is unusually valuable here. edited by Parelle on 7/6/2016 -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/6/2016	ochrasy wrote: TeslaWalker wrote: sighs I've still only seen the first campaign advancement card. I hope they do the lilac thing for the election if I don't start drawing them. On the off chance, if someone who sees this message could do me a favour and the next time they see the career advancement card check to see if the card requirements lists "remote lodgings" as locking it. It'd be helpful to know if that's locking me out for some reason. just got one at a remote lodging In fact, I would say a remote lodging would give you a better chance to get one than not. We have all been in that situation, though, when we need that one card that suddenly refuses to appear, no matter its frequency. But don't worry, it should make its appearance soon, and the remote lodging should help, I'd say. -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/5/2016	Vavakx Nonexus wrote: One of the best things about it is the fact that using it has no chance to remove Potential on a successful writing spree. Whilst it's not as fast as frenzied scribbling, it's much safer in several ways. Given that I just sold almost all my liquid assets to buy a pair of Kingscale boots it was not terribly easy to find 60 more echoes in liquid goods. (Must wear boots made from skin of Fingerkings . . . . MUST) However, I have now done so, and own my very own new elaborate typewriter. Once I have some more actions I'll see how it works. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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ochrasy Posts: 169 7/5/2016	first of all, where are these parties I'm hearing about? second, I'm really happy there will be more content! I feel like the stories are all still missing something. also, besides the RNG hating me, I found this festival quite fair. you can easily get to 20, and still enjoy the other branches that are (for you career) useless. -- Ochrasy. Monster-Hunter. Dangerous and Watchful, favors the Constables. Robitaille. Persuasive and Shadowy, fond of the Devils. Herr Horst. Seeker of Revenge. Open to all social actions on all accounts. Preferably, send any MW-providing actions to Ochrasy.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/5/2016	I'd just like to note that the design on the posters for the Jovial Contrarian and Sinning Jenny are wonderful. The Bishop is a little too crazy-looking on the poster to properly enjoy the aesthetics, though. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 7/6/2016	winrarphile wrote: Is the cap only twenty, for the campaign? Seems a little bit low, and I do hope we see some fun stuff coming up. There's no proof that it caps at 20; only the card stop popping after attaining that level. Regarding candidate change, I think it's safe to select the 0 AP action as FBG replied that my request has been deemed solved. Now I hope that "solved" means no more level loss only from clicking that action. EDIT: So who reached level 20 Campaigner and filled the Wiki page? Fixer as well! edited by Skinnyman on 7/6/2016 -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/13/2016	No, really, all I want is updates on new content and mechanics and stuff... I'm not interested in any of the debates even when they don't degenerate into people being really angry at each other over sex workers. Is there a place for JUST THAT? Debates have taken over every single thread on the election. I've had enough debates with the actual politics going on in real life. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/13/2016	Johny Topside wrote: I think that, at the end of the day, each candidate can bring something good to london (maybe even the Contrarian). And any of them can upset the status quo sufficiently to bring forth an open conflict with the masters which will likely send us all into the underpipes. As seems typical in real world politics, we constituents are not so much allowed to choose our eventual fate as to choose who, specifically, will have the privilege of selling us down the river. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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MrHarley Posts: 6 7/13/2016	These are all pretty cool! Harley here went for the Bishop. Jenny is all about the poor and stuff and he doesn't want to associate with lower classes anymore in any manner of sorts. He got his hard-won privilege, climbing the social ladder, and wants to keep it and get more. The Contrarian seemed to do, well, everything and the contrary of everything, and also is somewhat backed by revolutionaries, another group Harley doesn't want around his person. And he may be a sinner himself, but with discretion. The Bishop was the only respectable candidate remaining, and he went for him. Nevermind that Harley also kind of associates with Devils, he's good at hypocrisy. -- William Harley ~ a writer and a libertine
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/13/2016	Flesh-Stick is voting for Sinning Jenny out of spite, because it'll make Mr. Veils unhappy. He hates Mr. Veils more than anything.
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fortluna Posts: 306 7/13/2016	I think most sunless sea captains should prefer to stay on the good side of the Abbey Sisterhood and hell, but my character is also a Great Gamer, which meant that the Contrarian was the best choice - how better to keep an eye on contacts and foes amidst all the confusion? Then I was convinced to Jenny's side by the rhetoric of the factions against her after spending time in the forums, so imagine my delight when the update demonstrated Jenny involved in some actual intrigue involving the places beyond London. (internally chants ZEECRETS)
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Lisbella Peridot Posts: 138 7/13/2016	For a Zee-Captain, some considerations: The Abbey Rock sister are not going to raid / reward you for voting. They have better things to do. No impact from Jenny. The Bishop might make zee-travel easier / harder around Iron Republic, due to the infernal corsairs and their attitude against us, and how the Bishop deal with them. The Contrarian should have no impact. -- Anatasia Swansong - fencing prodigy, extraordinary beauty, and very stubborn Welcoming friends of all sorts! All independent now. Kelly Siniature - grinning, deranged, elegant child of indistinct gender Kelly is taking a long break on isolation. I also play Town of Salem and a few other games - still Lisbella Peridot! I finally regained stable internet access, so I should be around more often...
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Mikarissa Posts: 60 7/13/2016	My main account, Mikarissa, had initially declared for Jenny - simply because I had a feeling she was the most likely winner from the beginning, and wished to be on the winning side. I had since gotten more into the spirit of things and switched to the Contrarian out of roleplaying reasons - Mikarissa is Closest to Revolutionaries and has a ridiculous amount of Connected with them. She also doesn't mind the Liberation of the Night, believing it would be entertaining - she does not, it should be said, have much self-preservation - so February being involved doesn't faze her. She also has some fond memories of the Bishop, and supporting him would fall nicely in line with having blown up the Embassy recently - and his slogan is the best, let's be honest - but he just lacks the certain charisma Contrarian has in spades. My recently-hatched alt, Aislene Aveskamp, is voting for Jenny (her vote won't bear much weight, because she doesn't have any Notability & doesn't care enough to earn any levels in her election career). The choice was simple - Aislene is, at the moment, destitute and utterly unremarkable, and is sympathetic towards others in similar position. Jenny looks like the only candidate who would give a damn.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/13/2016	MrHarley wrote: What I am missing here is talk about why people had their characters pick the candidate they picked (rather than this... far too heated debate as if this was some kind of real ethical choice that affects real people? I mean, come on). My Absimiliard supports Jenny both because they agree with rhetoric about the poor and needy but more importantly because they are loyal to the Sisterhood. My character comes from SS and grew up occasionally having dinner at the Abbey when their captain brought battle trophies to the Sisterhood. They love the Sisters, and agree with them in almost all things, they just aren't one of them. So, for me, it was an in-game RP-based reason. Pretty straightforward for a steadfast character with previous loyalties. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/13/2016	thedeadlymoose wrote: Just to say: I really enjoy the writing for this storyline. I think it's pretty well hit out of the park. The storyline uses the trope of "all sides are bad, now pick one", which has been used a lot in games and usually is terrible. However, while not all people may agree, I think it's done really well here, because everyone is so entertaining, and what's going on is pretty fascinating. Sorry to say I disagree. The election is a typical modern mud-raking exercise where every candidate is awful and there are no good choices, yes. We have no campaign promises, or information about the platforms, and very little about the candidates except how awful they are. I don't have a problem with candidates having a negative angle, but all they are is negative. There's no redeeming quality being put forward for any of them. Jenny is selling London down the river, literally. The Contrarian is trying to sabotage his own campaign, to stop it from being a vehicle for terrorists who want to sabotage everything. The Bishop has been so thoroughly gamed by the devils that he's already lost. We know that the result of the vote will have an impact on the game for the rest of the year, but we have no idea what that impact will be. I can see this being a launching point for arguments in the forum for months to come if the outcome of the vote is negative. People who didn't vote for the victorious party will say that it is the fault of those that did, without acknowledging that their candidate would have been just as bad, by design. The idea of swapping allegiance based on the changing political landscape is a nice idea, but the punishment for doing so is heavy, and the landscape is barely changing at all, so people seem to be far more inclined to dig in then swap horses. The #AnyoneButJenny group is a nice idea, but they'll struggle to reach out to anyone who doesn't read the forums. Even if they persuaded every forumite, they would still fail to change the result, based on the polls we've seen. There's lots of division, and bitterness, and even some distress, in the forums. There are a lot of people who seem to be feeling helpless while everything falls apart. I was hoping for more. My preferred candidates for next years election: Mr Eaten, The Vake, and Jack. At least we could then discuss at least one virtue: honesty.
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Lumyire Posts: 167 7/13/2016	Just joined the fun, and "A marching band of nuns in scarlet passes by. The Contrarian waves to them merrily. " I reckon this is new? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Lumyire
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/14/2016	Yeah, the Contrarian has always used the "Saturnine Gent" icon, same as the Curate - the old one with the hat pushed back on the head, and the new, rather more handsome one. Looking through the portraits, I'm not sure which brown-skinned chap with glasses you might be thinking of... Edit: Oo, you're not thinking of the icon used for the Bristling Financier, among others, are you? This one? edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 7/14/2016 -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 7/17/2016	This may have already been answered, but do we know if there's any sort of benefit to keeping convincing rhetoric, public attention or dirty secrets around? Will it be like pails of lacre at Christmas that turn in to something else, or will they just disappear if not spent by the 18th? I assume it's the latter, but I'd like to know for sure. -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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McDermott Posts: 8 7/15/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: A wrapup story where you get a nod from the campaign you supported would be great, though- possibly even with a reward based on how hard you campaigned (IE career level.) So much this. I put lots of actions and resources into pushing my career as a fixer, so I would be really happy to receive some kind of compensation for my efforts. Not talking about the pain of increasing notability by reciting tales of terror. That drove me insane (literally)
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/15/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: Honestly, the sour graps option might lead to real resentment over the next year. The mechanical rewards should be the same for everyone. (New/changed cards reflecting the mayor's influence on the city.) We know they're not going to do this because they said they're not. Everyone will be impacted by the new Mayor's influence equally. The real question is: "do we all get the same story ending on election night, or do we each get something special depending on our candidate and level of support?" edited by Anne Auclair on 7/15/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/18/2016	A little extra info from Twitter: https://twitter.com/EchoBazaar/status/754971972933672961 You have until the 25th July to use excess election resources through the Electoral Opportunity. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/7/2016	Speaking of foolishness, I do believe that while the Contrarian may be trying to carve out more power for the people, he has no Neathly notion of what he'd do with it if he got it. Debate is useful in democratic systems up to a point, but continual opposition is a recipe for getting nothing done. At some point consensus must be built or arms must be twisted, and it is difficult to do that while driving everyone in apoplectic rages by being insufferable. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/7/2016	Grenem wrote: sweetandcool wrote: NinjaComedian wrote: sweetandcool wrote: Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once. Hmmm... You wouldn't also be supporting Jenny would you? Or is that too much of a coincidence? Coincidentally, I am wholeheartedly supporting Jenny. Great minds think alike! If you're going to use the wisdom of sayings, you might as well use the whole of the quote: "Great minds think alike, and fools seldom differ." In short, any using any such saying is a vote for the contrarian, because for every one that supports a point, there's another that opposes it, or three, or even itself. So I appreciate the fools who use things far more contradictory than the contrarian, and yet shun him. They remind me that when the city falls, or we go to war with hell, or jenny fails to live up to her campaign, it won't be all bad. at the very least, there will be less fools in the world. edited by Grenem on 7/7/2016 There is a fine difference between intellectuals who have similar ideals and fools who are too incompetent to have an original idea. Jenny is not a pawn of the masters; she chooses whether or not to be their ally. There are fools of all sides in this election who are too blinded by pride to see three feet in front of them, let alone past their own political bias. If you are to support a fine intellectual man (who quite frankly, if Jenny must lose, would serve well in her place) who praises the moderate and the knowledge of rational, it would serve well to follow his teaching. -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/7/2016	In case anyone is still doubting the frequency of the Advance your Career card, the impossibility of advancing at a good pace without spending fate or worrying because Fixer seems harder than the other two careers: I have gone up to Fixer 17 in three days without using any fate (to be honest, I got a generous donation that helped me advance one tier, once, so if you want you can consider me Fixer 16 for this), and I am not currently an EF. I have simply been drawing my cards at a remote lodging (sometimes I do it at Ladybones Road without noticing and I have to say it has not gone bad at all either), and I have had a bit of luck. And of course went for Investigation when it came to getting Convincing Rhetoric. Faster than writing short stories and it leaves you case-notes which... are good for writing short stories. Of the expensive kind, I mean. Edit: And of course the first thing I do after I write this message is thinking: How long it's been since I spent some fate, anyway...? And then spent some. Guys I was doing so well with my addiction. edited by miss_all_sunday on 7/7/2016 edited by miss_all_sunday on 7/7/2016 -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/7/2016	Sir Joseph Marlen wrote: There is a fine difference between intellectuals who have similar ideals and fools who are too incompetent to have an original idea. Jenny is not a pawn of the masters; she chooses whether or not to be their ally. There are fools of all sides in this election who are too blinded by pride to see three feet in front of them, let alone past their own political bias. If you are to support a fine intellectual man (who quite frankly, if Jenny must lose, would serve well in her place) who praises the moderate and the knowledge of rational, it would serve well to follow his teaching. I just find that saying really frustrating, and more-so from people condemning the contrarian for being wishy-washy. At least he has a point every time. if the original qupte has any insights to give besides "crowds could be really smart or really stupid", it is as far beyond me as the stars are on the [monstrous hierarchy]. And a butchered quote holds no merit whatsoever, especially not one that's never used for giving wisdom- it seldom changes anything. to deliberately butcher this worthless quote, "foolish quotes seldom differ from what you already believe". There's no more value in preaching what you already know than telling any given revolutionary about what huge jerks the masters are. wisdom without change is ______ Cutting it in half adds a point by ripping away context, whether you use "fools seldom differ" or "great minds think alike". any little quote like that is meaningless, and that one was worthless even before the butchering towards the less useful half. ["great minds think alike" lets you think what you already want to, while "fools seldom differ" add doubt to make you consider the other sides. As a pro-contrarian, of course i'd think the latter is the more important. As someone who believes sayings should make you stop, or not exist, i think the latter is more important.] I shouldn't have been so harsh, thank you for calling me on that. it's just something that really irks us. edited by Grenem on 7/7/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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The Master Posts: 804 7/7/2016	A storylet opened to trade trade secrets, public attention and convincing rhetorics, fixers, prepare to start making waves. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/7/2016	The Master wrote: A storylet opened to trade trade secrets, public attention and convincing rhetorics, fixers, prepare to start making waves. Well, a point of public attention is worth a suspicion reduction, two identities uncovered and a quantity of making waves (seems generous amount, but I couldn't say how many precisely; less than thirty), and 13 public attention netted 52 muscaria brandy (plus some interesting text on what the brandy actually tastes like). 3 rhetoric turned into 12 collated research. edited by RandomWalker on 7/7/2016
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/7/2016	An imaginary Poison Pen! (yeah, I might need to spend real money on one of those as well) -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/7/2016	Touche Grenem. Point to you. I hadn't considered that. (though it still doesn't make me care about gaining notability all that much) -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/7/2016	absimiliard wrote: Touche Grenem. Point to you. I hadn't considered that. (though it still doesn't make me care about gaining notability all that much) I suppose it's now a question of who's side has the most seekers? -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/7/2016	Multiplication of Notablity wouldn't be quite fair for Non POSI or our friends with Obscurity. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/11/2016	RandomWalker, there's changed text (and title) for the pinned election storylet and it promises new Flash Lay text as well as Investigation text. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/8/2016	Skinnyman wrote: The Master wrote: No words from people who reached 20 in their career? This was quite short if that was it, but at least we won't grind stuff for the election for 10 more days. RandomWalker confirmed that he reached level 20, but didn't see anything new 20 hours ago. Yup - I didn't see anything new. (The election resource cash-in option opened up just after I posted, which is a nice coincidence, but is there for everyone, obviously). This is a good thing in my opinion: the end-game players have enough advantages in this event as it is. Allowing them to have even more influence then people who started playing later strikes me as unfair and potentially discouraging to people who should be the future of the game. Maybe some new options will open up in the second half, but I won't be disappointed if they don't.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 7/11/2016	It matters, but it will take more work to increase the strength of your vote. (Not that this is something you need to do) edited by suinicide on 7/11/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: Snip Johny Topside wrote: Also, say what you will about the attendees of the Parlor of Virtue but they likely don't deserved to be blackmailed by the very prostitute they paid. In my opinion, that's exactly what they deserve. Snip May I ask what they deserve it for? For attending? I'm not saying you don't have a reason, but you haven't made it yet, and yet you seem to assume agreement. Perhaps letting us in on your reasoning would lessen opposition.
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Darkstrong Posts: 51 7/12/2016	Contrarian doesn't want to do anything. Like Joker he "just does things". Bishop wants to start a war for his personal vendetta. A was which will not go well for London or Londoners. Jenny plays dirty? Well, how else are you going to change anything in London as it is now? At least, her goals are good. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Darkstrong
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/12/2016	Jolanda Swan wrote: I hope I don't sound obnoxious, but the Contrarian's stance seems fitting in the storytelling sense. He is doing what he always did - standing on his own, despite the consequences. At least now he is being a contrarian for a good reason, a reason obvious to us all. Character-wise, I would say he is consistent. The same goes for the Bishop: he is doing a very harsh thing in pursuit of a higher goal. I campaign for Jenny and honestly, though I am glad she is in the lead, I would be equally glad if her lore was as revealing as the lore for the other trwo - even if it hurt her chances. After all, this is a storytelling experience. I am not saying your efforts should be wasted in the name of story, only that the Contrarian and the Bishop narratives are consistent - they are being themselves in loss. the frustrating part isn't the contrarian, you're right, he's stable and internally consistent. But Febuary's been given less the idiot ball and closer to the idiot dyson sphere, and the Contrarian's petty response to increased revolution funding of sending it to the competition doesn't actually help. Also, it's just annoying that the least trust-worthy, most unethical individual wins. for all that most people see jenny as a positive representation of a prostititute, i can't. at best, she's a passively negative one. She plays all the nasty prostitute tropes straight, and while she's a self-proclaimed bleeding-heart, the fact that this miraculously manifest only when she was aiming for political office makes it ring hollower than a canister of void. edited by Grenem on 7/12/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: The rich are evil by definition: If they weren't evil, they wouldn't be rich. Nothing that I've seen indicates that Jenny has any agenda other than sticking it to the Man (figuratively) who has been sticking it to her and her girls (figuratively and literally), which is an agenda I completely endorse. What evidence do you have to the contary? http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/244488/EventConclusion Deliberate engineering of scandal doesn't qualify as another agenda? Rich = evil? Actively inflicting harm upon the evil = good? If that's the case... well, you are evil, i'm evil, everyone on the forums, pretty much, is evil. if hurting the rich is ethically neutral or higher, is there any reason for me not to pull a jack impression right now on all forum-goers, besides counter-poisoning? If that'd be wrong, why is it okay for rich npcs [don't let her fool you] to hurt rich npcs? edited by Grenem on 7/12/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: Johny Topside wrote: Dubinee Finnat wrote: It isn't complicated! Vote on the issues, not on personal character. The Bishop cares only about his fight with Hell and the devils, condemning the soul trade and those who have sold their souls. He doesn't care one bit about feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, which is what leads many to sell their souls in the first place. He would be an authoritarian theocrat, unkind and unjust. The Contrarian is embroiled in a political struggle between the Bazaar and the Revolution, trying to find a Third Way between those two, to the exclusion of all else. That is no doubt very important, but what happens to the people while the major players are fighting it out for their utopian or dystopian grand visions? There is only one candidate who is in it for the people. Prostitutes, urchins, workers, beggars, thieves, addicts, merchants, spivs: these are our people. That's where our priorities should lie, not in the ideological debates of the upper classes. So what if she uses blackmail and extortion to drive her campaign? I say, 'Good!' I applaud her ruthlessness. It's not as if she's blackmailing or extorting the poor, is it? I think it's wonderful for the toffs to be exploited for a change, instead of doing the exploiting! 'Vote Jenny, Or You're A Git!' She is starting some sort of work force unit, swell, the first instance of her actually making good on her claims; while in the wee hours of the morning she's still around hustling secrets. This isn't just a 'rich are evil (though in FL the sometimes are actually evil), lets help the poor' campaign, Jenny's a smart girl, there's a secret agenda here. Also, her ruthlessness is what'll get you poisoned next feast by your favorite would-be mayor. Ruthlessness is what makes February least favorite month The rich are evil by definition: If they weren't evil, they wouldn't be rich. Nothing that I've seen indicates that Jenny has any agenda other than sticking it to the Man (figuratively) who has been sticking it to her and her girls (figuratively and literally), which is an agenda I completely endorse. What evidence do you have to the contary? Just to give you an example, the Good ol' Bishop of Southwark is rich, his biggest crime is wanting to fight literally Hell. A closer to home example is that you the player character can literally rise through the ranks of society through your own merit. Also, say what you will about the attendees of the Parlor of Virtue but they likely don't deserved to be blackmailed by the very prostitute they paid. Furthermore and most damning: her plans to corrupt her rivals down to the date simply because they have the gall to rival her for power. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/12/2016	The Omnipresent Threat of Impeachment.
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Little The Posts: 700 7/12/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: Amongst the dross, you find a thick carmine volume. It is a ledger, with five columns per page: prominent opponents, their suspected vices, and suitable candidates for performing the corrupting. There are suggested dates - all in the coming year. The final column, still entirely blank, is headed 'Proof'.' Reminder that Jenny is trying to deliberately engineer scandal and corrupt her poor opponents in the coming year. So she's a shrewd politician who can plan ahead, thus implying she might actually be able to get things done. I don't see how that's a negative. (Keep in mind also we don't know her opponents are poor -- they could be just as much scoundrels as most politicians.) -- A gentleman of numerous descriptors that change far too often. Second chance and menace reduction invites are welcome. My journey to Seek the Name is recorded for posterity here. I asked "Who is Salt?" I am a member of the Temple Club. If you would like an invitation, feel free to request one! Fallen London is a game of choices. When you make an important one, you can record your rationale here.
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	PJ wrote: Schmidt wrote: I don't feel the sarcasm was necessary. Perhaps not, but it was certainly amusing! You know the rules. You shouldn't need to be told not to violate them each individual time you find a way to do so. I suppose I was expecting a somewhat equal measure of forthrightness. I told them of the issue. I acted not in the shadows. Did I act morally? Debatable. Did I act unwisely? Clearly. Did I act ethically? To that I say yes. I don't need either your rebukes or condolences, though it's clear I shall receive none of the latter. I'm off to lick my wounds and tend my wounded pride. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/12/2016	Schmidt wrote: PJ wrote: Schmidt wrote: I don't feel the sarcasm was necessary. Perhaps not, but it was certainly amusing! You know the rules. You shouldn't need to be told not to violate them each individual time you find a way to do so. I suppose I was expecting a somewhat equal measure of forthrightness. I told them of the issue. I acted not in the shadows. Did I act morally? Debatable. Did I act unwisely? Clearly. Did I act ethically? To that I say yes. I don't need either your rebukes or condolences, though it's clear I shall receive none of the latter. I'm off to lick my wounds and tend my wounded pride. If a bank has a hole in the wall and then they take from you what you took, you should be glad a bank just use sarcasm instead of something more substantial. Telling them about the hole then taking from it changes little. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/11/2016	Am I the only one who feels this election was rigged from the start? I get that each candidate has secrets or problems or unsavory elements within either their campaign or person. I think that's great. HOWEVER I started with the Bishop. Atticus is a church man (after a sort) and initially held there... But was swayed to vote Contrarian. A moderate candidate in a city of extremes. Sure, he debates with abandon, but I like that about the guy. New secrets have arisen about the campaigns, and both Jenny and Southwark have issues that remain in the vein of their campaign. They still represent what they have always represented (though for the life of me I don't know Jenny's game. I don't understand the rampant Jenny love haha). The Contrarian, on the other hand, has just had his campaign publicly (for players) neutered. A vote for te Contrarian is NOT a vote for the Contrarian. It is a vote for radicalism now. Honestly I feel like FBG took a look at the (distant) runner up and declared "NOPE. HIS CAMPAIGN IS OVER. WANNA VOTE FOR LoN instead?" Jenny didn't need anymore help here... sigh And btw I don't intend to rile up folks. Just venting, I suppose. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Actually my impression is that the first week's support determined the events of the second week. Jenny's campaign led so it is now flush with cash and support and preparing to reward its supporters and punish its enemies! The Bishop is having financial difficulties, but still keeping things together. The Contrarian's campaign wilted and suffered a hostile takeover. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2016 My impression is that this is blatantly unfair. It went from "You can vote for A puppet of the church, a individual seeking independence from the bazaar with no liberation of night needed, and a self-proclaimed bleeding heart who's guilty of blackmail.", with their dark sides being: B: Complete and utter fixation on Hell. will ignore other issues. J: untrustworthy and treacherous. C: Incapable of making reliable decisions; connected to revolutionaries. But now they've dug up new nasty stuff for the contrarian, including active revolutionary hostile takeover, while neglecting to add any new issues for the others. I don't care what you say, it's bad game design to make the losing party jump ship further. if it's for storytelling purposes, sure, but as soon as you made it interactive, you needed each to have a strong case for every party being elected, or at. Swapping what the contrarian stands for, making him himself decide to jump ship, would be interesting in a single-player storyline. But as someone who supported him wholeheartedly, and at substantial personal expense, given the notability demands, having him suddenly sabotaged is a terrible letdown in a multiplayer storyline. I hate Jenny, but now I'm frustrated, because while before I had a good candidate, now he's- already losing, nevertheless- had a diabolus ex machina occur. I don't care what you say, the revolution behaving like such idiots is impossible unless the calendar council has a lot more turnover than we've seen. They've just alienated their main supporter, and his support network, too. Yes, it's a natural extension of the previous storyline, but it's an escalation where we don't see in the others. We don't see Jenny, planning to publicly release the entire list of her customers. We don't see the bishop, accepting the devils' support and proudly working in tandem with them. So why does the revolution have to escalate? -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/11/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Schmidt wrote: Am I the only one who feels this election was rigged from the start? I get that each candidate has secrets or problems or unsavory elements within either their campaign or person. I think that's great. HOWEVER I started with the Bishop. Atticus is a church man (after a sort) and initially held there... But was swayed to vote Contrarian. A moderate candidate in a city of extremes. Sure, he debates with abandon, but I like that about the guy. New secrets have arisen about the campaigns, and both Jenny and Southwark have issues that remain in the vein of their campaign. They still represent what they have always represented (though for the life of me I don't know Jenny's game. I don't understand the rampant Jenny love haha). The Contrarian, on the other hand, has just had his campaign publicly (for players) neutered. A vote for te Contrarian is NOT a vote for the Contrarian. It is a vote for radicalism now. Honestly I feel like FBG took a look at the (distant) runner up and declared &quotNOPE. HIS CAMPAIGN IS OVER. WANNA VOTE FOR LoN instead?&quot Jenny didn't need anymore help here... sigh And btw I don't intend to rile up folks. Just venting, I suppose. My impression is that the first week's support determined the events of the second week. Jenny's campaign led so it is now flush with cash and support and preparing to reward its supporters and punish its enemies! The Bishop is having financial difficulties, but still keeping things together. The Contrarian's campaign wilted and suffered a hostile takeover. After all, it wouldn't make sense to write Jenny doing very well and the Bishop and the Contrarian having difficulties if the situation was reversed and it was Jenny who was far behind and the Contrarian leading the pack. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2016 I'm fine with Contrarian having difficulties. It absolutely makes sense, given the state of the campaign. What annoys me is the fact that it is made fairly clear it is no longer his own campaign. They even had the character funnel away his own funds to torpedo his campaign. It just feels like FBG preemptive ly cut him out of the race. I'd much rather vote for the Bishop now. At least he still runs his campaign and isn't actively sabotaging it. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/11/2016	I ran an investigation for each candidate. All of the new texts suggest something interesting, especially some connections. But I have no idea what the Contrarian has in his mind. It's just...weird. (Not surprised in the slightest, though.) EDIT: [spoiler] Jenny: Never-ending crates of wines and lunches at Dante's. A ledger of opponents for the coming year. Bishop: Records in a mess. St Dunstan's documments of the soulless. 'Publish'. Contrarian: A little too generous?[/spoiler] edited by Fadewalker on 7/11/2016 -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Israfel Posts: 36 7/11/2016	sweetandcool wrote: Anybody want to post a link to the text for the Bishop's flash lay, as well as the results of all of the campaign's investigations? I already hit level 20 and don't want to bother grinding more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Adimarch The top three entries are for each of the campaign investigations. Jenny, the Contrarian and the Bishop respectively. -- Two futures, endlessly circling. Adimarch - Yearning, Burning.
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Sarsmos Posts: 42 7/11/2016	Here is the text for the Bishop's Flash Lay result. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Insanity http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Silas Kylwood http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rozmar Nesmertal
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/11/2016	Twitter -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/11/2016	I think Jenny being in the lead is also hinted at in the new text. Notice that the Bishop and Contrarian's campaigns are in various states of disarray while Jenny's is now flush with cash and secrets. So our support will impact the story, not just the winner. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/11/2016	Kaigen wrote: New Flash Lay result for The Contrarian's campaign reveals a familiar face. Well this is getting deliciously dangerous... -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/11/2016	Grenem wrote: In order- the contrarian will fight. he may lose, but he will fight. They will not find him easy to force to the side of the revolution. I do not believe they will actually find him to be any easier to bend to the cause of liberation than the others, but they may try harder. However, the pressure he's under makes me falter in my support- before, i truly believed in him, but now- i still think he'll try to do what's best, but the liberation will try to force him to bend. He won't, but constant conflict with the revolution may make him what everyone else feared he would be- weak and ineffectual. The donations did make me falter. I thought they were because of the intervention of February. I thought he was not confident of a victory against his colleague. If they are simply for the previous money from January, he is just less cunning (or more?) than I supposed, but there is quite a long way to go out of two Months' control, unless he still has some special cards in his hand. And I also think the appear-disappear of the Manager is a little abrupt. The early Flash Lay mentioned that the Manager is always at the Contrarian's side. And the Manager of the Royal Bethlehem should be... a person of similar importance to the Duchess, the Widow, and the Priest-Kings, who will not be easily dealt with. edited by Fadewalker on 7/11/2016 -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Curious Foreigner wrote: Why would the Bishop want to publish who is soulless? Simple: to reveal just how far the infernal influence has infiltrated our fair city. Knowing one in ten lost their soul is but a statistic; Seeing those unfortunate eleven percent will make it real, and maybe there'll finally be something done to stop the vile practice of spirifage, and perhaps someday the soul trade as a whole. Sure, very pretty. You'll note there's no interviews in there. this is observations of soulless, gathering evidence against them, not, as a reasonable method would be for your proposed goals, interviews with soulless, carefully picked for the ones neutral- to anti- soul trade. This is an appeal to terror at best, not an appeal to the heart. And trying to scare london by telling them we're surrounded does little good, in comparison to trying to tug on heartstrings. edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/11/2016	Schmidt wrote: Am I the only one who feels this election was rigged from the start? I get that each candidate has secrets or problems or unsavory elements within either their campaign or person. I think that's great. HOWEVER I started with the Bishop. Atticus is a church man (after a sort) and initially held there... But was swayed to vote Contrarian. A moderate candidate in a city of extremes. Sure, he debates with abandon, but I like that about the guy. New secrets have arisen about the campaigns, and both Jenny and Southwark have issues that remain in the vein of their campaign. They still represent what they have always represented (though for the life of me I don't know Jenny's game. I don't understand the rampant Jenny love haha). The Contrarian, on the other hand, has just had his campaign publicly (for players) neutered. A vote for te Contrarian is NOT a vote for the Contrarian. It is a vote for radicalism now. Honestly I feel like FBG took a look at the (distant) runner up and declared "NOPE. HIS CAMPAIGN IS OVER. WANNA VOTE FOR LoN instead?" Jenny didn't need anymore help here... sigh And btw I don't intend to rile up folks. Just venting, I suppose. My impression is that the first week's support determined the events of the second week. Jenny's campaign led so it is now flush with cash and support and preparing to reward its supporters and punish its enemies! The Bishop is having financial difficulties, but still keeping things together. The Contrarian's campaign wilted and suffered a hostile takeover. After all, it wouldn't make sense to write Jenny doing very well and the Bishop and the Contrarian having difficulties if the situation was reversed and it was Jenny who was far behind and the Contrarian leading the pack. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/11/2016	Probably the part where the list of soulless has a paper labeled "Publish" on top of it. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	I hate to break the chain of discussion, but I wanted to see if this had happened to anyone else. I woke this morning to find all of my stockpiled convincing rhetoric and public attention had evaporated, leaving me with nothing. Previously, I had more than enough to finish my campaign grind. But now nothing. Also, my stash of over 4,000 echoes evaporated as well, and even if I sell things, I gain no cash. Needless to say, this is distressing and a report has been sent. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Zoe DeGeest Posts: 104 7/12/2016	Everyone takes a breath now, and think of how to keep the mayor in check after the election! -- Zoe DeGeest, your humble churchgoing grocer, now respectable.
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/12/2016	Sandi Gummy wrote: morporkia wrote: Little The wrote: I'm a bit surprised people are so quick to rail against Jenny. Ask yourselves: What's the worst-case scenario here? That this is all a con and she's actually only in it to get power for herself? Well then, what's she going to use that power for? Most likely, to empower Abbey Rock... and while I'm not playing Bag a Legend, I've heard they're against the Vake and other things that go bump in the night, yes? I don't see anything bad about that -- even if they're only doing it for their own glory or some petty vendetta, they're still making London safer. So either Jenny is genuine, which is a good thing... or she's furthering her secret agenda, which is also a good thing. Or possibly, both at the same time. I don't see a downside here. The downside is that you are correct, and that there really isn't much negative portrayal of Jenny as opposed to the Bishop/Contrarian (she's a politician! Running for Mayor! The horror!), so if you were a supporter of one of the other two candidates you may, at this point, be feeling somewhat put out. I was expecting a bit more parity. Where's the fun in an election with one clear answer? But if she isn't that bad, why do the writer have to write them as worse to be fair? Weird! Then it could be any other NPC of the Neath that actually shares the level of terrible with the other candidates, and not a straight-up better person. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/12/2016	Only an overpun, as I don't think Fate has been spent yet. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	Kylestien wrote: Chris Gardiner wrote: That is distressing. And mysterious! I wonder what *could* have happened to the vast store of election resources that you accrued by exploiting a bug on the mobile app 426 consecutive times? But fear not! Failbetter will not sleep until we've got to the bottom of this. I'll have a dig down the back of the sofa. (For serious, don't do this. Fixing serial exploitation of bugs takes up time we could have spent making new content) #SunBurn (Because, you know, Gardiner sort of looks like Gardener, and the sun shines on gardens, and the firey judement of the creators has laided the smackdown I'm gonna stop now) I can't even be mad at that. Nice one, Kylestien -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Soaleanmonterey Posts: 5 7/12/2016	Honestly, I sort of see what Jenny's doing as a "Chaotic Good" type of thing. She's using whatever she has to, in order to achieve her goal of the greater good. The Bishop's war against Hell will lead directly into a war between London and Hell. Considering how many devils are in the city, that's not a good thing. Non-combatant casualties would happen. I don't know much about the Contrarian, but whether February is in of his choice, or she's in as a hostile takeover, in both cases that does not seem like a good thing for London. Jenny, meanwhile, is riding entirely on "I want to help the people." Now assuming this is true (which is only as likely as either of the other two staying true to their guns), this seems like what would be best for London. Whether she has to out and blackmail those who want to maintain the status quo or not, it would be the best option. Vote Jenny. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Soalean~Monterey Send me IC social actions! Watchful stuff unlikely.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/12/2016	A vote for Jenny is a vote to p*ss off Mr. Veils. Vote Jenny :P
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/12/2016	God, this thread is hard to follow, what with the confluence of IC opinions and arguments and mechanical talk. I saw an echo of text I'd never seen before about the Contrarian. Does anybody know what's changed where? I'd like to see new text for people, but I can't find reference to it in all the mess. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: It's best to trust the only trustworthy, non-betraying individual in the election. Assuming you're actually sane- Bishop, right? I mean, it could be contrarian, but anyone who thinks that's jenny, well, send me a PM, and I'll help your wounds. edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/12/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: MIdnightVoyager, all the campaign Investigations and Flash Lay results give new text. Thank you! -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/11/2016	laughs so hard at the Bishop's new text
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dov Posts: 2580 7/8/2016	Skinnyman wrote: Reaching level 80 gives you a 40% chance to get a compelling instead vs 96%. This costs ~40 AP and 7 E using low level materials . I'm not sure I follow. Reaching 80 Potential and trying for an Exceptional short story gives a 100% chance of getting either an Exceptional story or a Compelling one. Either one can be used to get election materials. ---- edited by dov on 7/8/2016 -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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penknife Posts: 85 7/8/2016	Parelle wrote: There's a change in the Short Story trade in. There are now separate storylets for each kind of short story (compelling, thrilling, exceptional) Whew! I've been living in fear of misclicking and losing my Classic Short Story every time I did this trade in. I never want to go through writing one of those again. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Penknife Most social actions welcome, no SMEN or Boxed Cats please.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/11/2016	Notability caps at 15, so everybody with it that high will be tied for highest Notability. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/11/2016	We'll be getting the announcement sometime on the 11th, likely around noon FBG time. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/11/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Hark DeGaul Posts: 208 7/7/2016	Really happy that my choice to play a fixer is no longer a terrible mistake! Having something to do with all that public attention is very welcome. -- The Dawn-Eyed Optician: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hark%20DeGaul That Vicar Who Ruined the Royal Wedding for Everyone (including himself): http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hebediah%20Fix The Dreaded Relative: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Your%20Aunt
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Scienceandponies Posts: 247 7/8/2016	Passionario wrote: NinjaComedian wrote: sweetandcool wrote: Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once. Hmmm... You wouldn't also be supporting Jenny would you? Or is that too much of a coincidence? Jenny deserves the best Fixers and Jenny's Fixers deserve all the best. Huzzah for the Jenny Fixers! I actually started with the Contrarian, thinking the Masters, via Mr. Wines, had too much influence over her, but switched when my first foray into digging up dirt on her campaign revealed that she had been sending the checks back.
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The Master Posts: 804 7/8/2016	No words from people who reached 20 in their career? This was quite short if that was it, but at least we won't grind stuff for the election for 10 more days. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath. No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these. He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/8/2016	Kittenpox wrote: Just to check, the Campaign Resources card is still about, yeah? I just haven't seen it for a little while, and I had kinda been relying on it to help fuel my progress. (I figure it's quite possibly either unlucky RNG or bad memory - both are equally possible - but I didn't want to just assume and then fail to adapt to a change I hadn't made myself aware of.) I've seen it a couple of times so far today, so I assume it's still around. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/8/2016	Hunting dangerous "pray" is amusingly accurate for the topic we are referring to.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/8/2016	It's not. Three election materials are worth 60 echoes; holding a ball gives maybe 10 echoes of items and nowhere near enough MW to make up for it. Using a Salon/Orphanage, stealing Tales of Terror!! and converting up, or side-converting T3 items are substantially better. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/7/2016	That seems too strong an effect, and I say that as a Notability 15, level 20 Fixer. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Sir Goomy Posts: 111 7/7/2016	The Master wrote: A storylet opened to trade trade secrets, public attention and convincing rhetorics, fixers, prepare to start making waves. Ah, you sly ninja you, I was just writting about it. Yup, new options are now live and they're pretty neat! I already bumped my "Making Waves" quite a lot with all the useless "Public Attention" that I had. Now, I'll probably stock up on delicious demon juice (a.k.a Muscaria Brandy) and...eh...I dunno. edited by Sir Goomy on 7/7/2016 edited by Sir Goomy on 7/7/2016 -- Social actions, invites, roleplaying and general merrymaking is more than welcomed! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sir~Goo
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/7/2016	Non EF fixer here, who has been card flipping a ton. I've safely gotten to Fixer 8 and purposefully spent the day making a short story (lord, those are either time consuming or expensive!). I've done 3 Flash Lays and now need to deal with the consequences of having Scandal too high to do another and to low to go TC Favour fishing. I've otherwise paid for my Dirty Secrets through cards (and Casework for my Rhetoric through connections). Slow? Maybe. It's not too bad and I feel progress is happening. But if the point of the festival is to increase engagement and card flipping that seems to be succeeding. edited by Parelle on 7/7/2016 -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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NinjaComedian Posts: 202 7/6/2016	sweetandcool wrote: Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once. Hmmm... You wouldn't also be supporting Jenny would you? Or is that too much of a coincidence?
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/7/2016	NinjaComedian wrote: sweetandcool wrote: Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once. Hmmm... You wouldn't also be supporting Jenny would you? Or is that too much of a coincidence? Jenny deserves the best Fixers and Jenny's Fixers deserve all the best. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/7/2016	dov wrote: Very impressive! I try to get all items (and especially all companions), but sadly at some point I had to stop and consider the amount of real world money I spend on Fate and set myself some budget limitations. Ha, that's why I exclusively collect companions. I have contained my desire to collect to one category. Of course, that was before the Heptagoat and before I knew about the companions that will probably never be given out again and aaaaaaaaaaaaa -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Kyria Posts: 22 7/18/2016	A quite fun event, I'm interested to see what the result will be. Very happy with my new shoes and the two more watchful they gave, allowing me to reach SotC 21. -- Kyria
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Saklad Posts: 528 7/18/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Yes, but that was only "the earliest time that the end of the event definitely won't happen before." The day is young! edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 7/18/2016 Ah. I interpreted that as the latest possible time. Carry on then. -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/18/2016	Asclepius Unbound wrote: From a friend: A vote for the Contrarian is a vote for Bazaarexit! Are they pro-Brexit? Because otherwise, it's saying that trying to secede from a [moderately inconvenient faction] is bad, and trying to secede from [a faction that will crush your city one day] is equally bad. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Cthonius Posts: 362 7/18/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: Chris? Mr. Gardener? What would the text have been if the others had won? No clue, but I can share at least the echo of the Contrarian's words http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/cthonius?fromEchoId=9115261 (Also got a Favor in High places, around 100 or so Journals of Infamy, and...I can't remember the third thing. I think some Compromising Documents?) Kinda curious about the others -- Cthonius, gone North. Gone. Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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Appolonia Posts: 248 7/18/2016	Bravo to the storytellers. This was a very fun event. An engaging topic. Something folks could be passionate about. And a story that we could RP about together, since an election is an event that happens to everyone in town. Great job! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Appolonia%20VonRavenscroft
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/18/2016	Appolonia wrote: Bravo to the storytellers. This was a very fun event. An engaging topic. Something folks could be passionate about. And a story that we could RP about together, since an election is an event that happens to everyone in town. Great job! That's very true - this is the first event that has drawn full-community participation that I can think of - even Hallowmas and Knife and Candle only involved groups of players interacting for some benefit. This drew from the entire community and may have some real result on the stories. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/15/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Mordaine Barimen wrote: Honestly, the sour graps option might lead to real resentment over the next year. The mechanical rewards should be the same for everyone. (New/changed cards reflecting the mayor's influence on the city.) We know they're not going to do this because they said they're not. Everyone will be impacted by the new Mayor's influence equally. The real question is: "do we all get the same story ending on election night, or do we each get something special depending on our candidate and level of support?" edited by Anne Auclair on 7/15/2016 I actually like that idea It would give someone 'special' to everyone, which would make our work feel worthwhile, as we would have 'achieved' something, but - at the same time - no one would lose out on any special items, cards, or mechanics. It would still be a reward, but mostly in flavour. The idea of us all getting a slightly different story (such as our candidates reactions to winning/losing) would be very interesting.
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dov Posts: 2580 7/14/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: No worries; lots of faces to remember in the Neath! I usually blame the weekly trips to the Nadir. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/16/2016	Scienceandponies wrote: As I'm rather satisfied with having maxed out my fixer career and pushed from 10 to 12 notability, what's the best way to cash out election materials? Are electoral balls worth it, or am I better off just cashing out the different materials separately. Is it at all profitable to be picking up more from the occasional card? Unless you really need Making Waves, I wouldn't call Electoral Balls worth it (and since you're a Fixer, you'd probably do just as well using the career specific option). As for picking up more to cash out, it depends on which cards you pick them up from. The candidate cards give you election resources for about 5 echoes and an action, after which you can turn around and trade them for 10 echoes, so it's a pretty good deal. The Campaign Resources card, less so. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Lieutenant Astros Posts: 12 7/17/2016	dragonridingsorceress wrote: Do we know exactly when the election will end? I ask because I'd like to keep grinding up my Campaigner level until the last moment, but also want to cash in all the Dirty Secrets I've collected by accident before the trade-in storylet goes away. Absintheuse wrote: The Election is free and is open to all players. It will begin today, Monday 4th July and end on the 18th July. Halfway through, we'll announce which candidate is in the lead.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/17/2016	Yes, but when on the 18th July? 24 hours is a long time, filled with many cards and actions. At least the intended hour of day would be nice to know. And would always have been nice to know, for all the festivals.
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/15/2016	IgnatuStone wrote: I'm planning to cash in most of my excess election materials soon, however I'm going to keep a couple in stock just because I want to have one of every item. What are the odds that they'll have some use on the last day of the election. I know that Failbetter won't tell us if election materials will have a future use, but does anyone have any guesses based on past festivals? Don't the cash-in options consume all of your election items at once? Unless you use the far less useful ball option or the Fixer option, in which case you get far less out of it. Also I wouldn't be surprised if like for other seasonal events you lose all election items and qualities at the end of the thing. Snow melts, Masquing turns into MW, Strange Catches vanish, Hallowmas Spirit is gone... -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/15/2016	Anyone else hoping for a special ending depending on who you chose to support? Maybe a token of appreciation or special story token to mark your participation in the campaign? I don't mean in terms of rewards, only story. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/15/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/14/2016	Do we suppose any of the candidates correspond to a real-world historical figure? I don't think they do - certainly, I couldn't find any equivalent Reginalds, and Jenny's origins are entirely fantastical. The Contrarian is a little more challenging to rule out, as we don't actually know a great deal about him. White, male, no accent specified, no apparent title of office, doesn't look older than his forties at most, uses a wheelchair, more intellectual than practical, interested in politics. All the pro-democracy campaigners I could think of were too old, and most of the progressive politicos of the last quarter of the 19th century were trade unionists and the like. Ah, well. I daresay he's either entirely fictitious or I'm looking in quite the wrong place. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 7/13/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: Anyway, the most important thing: don't hate. This is a pretend election. Keep some perspective. It is a game you care very much about, but it is a game. Don't hate the other voters. Don't feel powerless. . . . so . . . your signature is sarcastic, then? -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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memespawn Posts: 50 7/14/2016	Apologies, I've not done an event before - if I have leftover resources, do they expire (rot? go off?) at the end of the event, or will I have a chance to convert them once the campaign is over? That is, should I make definitely certain to convert any supernumerary resources before the end of the election, or does it not matter too much? -- Open for social actions http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/memespawn
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 7/13/2016	I am glad I could call the oversight to your attention, then! (I missed the earlier version.) -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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MadmanAtW Posts: 231 7/13/2016	I will say that I think making it so expensive to switch allegiances was a mistake- certainly by the time this new information came out I was at 12 or so, and _half_ my career is just to high a price to pay. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Madman~Across~the~Water http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Xoricco Accepting any social actions except the Affluent Photographer. Would appreciate warning of dupings/betrayals/rats.
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A Dimness Posts: 613 7/13/2016	Jenny's supporters project themselves too much as zealots and not enough as critical thinkers. That's the main reason my Mirthless Colonist would never side with her (Besides, the Contrarian has Tomb-colony support). -- A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/13/2016	My Jack-of-Smiles, when he has coherent moments between murders, is an Agitator for the Contrarian. For the Liberation of Night that keeps the Light! (Notability 10) Jack-of-Chimes, my madman deluded into thinking he's a former master betrayed by the others, votes Sinning Jenny, as a Campaigner. He 'cultivates' Jacks of Smiles with an academic fervour, wielding them like a plague to further his deluded vendetta. Jenny's defiance of Master Wines is why he sided with her. If it turns out she's quietly still under its wing... well, that 20 points of campaigner might have to suddenly become 10 more for the Contrarian! (Notability 13) Shalinoth, Shally to his mates, is voting Contrarian for the lols. Both kid and kidsman, he runs an orphanage called The Urchin Union, training the troublemakers and spies of tomorrow with an emphasis on free-will and fun for all. His destiny is to one day slay a Master and take its robes and riches while the world burns, so he's happy with the LoN, whether the light persists or not. (Notability 13) -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/13/2016	Fadewalker wrote: Not know if they have been replaced. Have no campaign card in hand. Screenshots from 4th July for 3 candidates: Jenny Interesting. Apparently the text on the first option went from "...and gentleman of the night" to "...and gentlemen of the night". Corrected typo? Or a sign of Jenny's male supporters switching careers? -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/13/2016	Passionario wrote: Johny Topside wrote: Theoretically, perhaps, but that would mean the end of the game, and in FBG have created this seasonal event as a stealth excuse to close down Fallen London, I'll eat my least-favourite hat. Would it still be considered 'seasonal' content if it's the last of its kind? The Season of Revolution that brought an end to the thrones of Hell was also 'seasonal content'. We have a Season of Revolution that brought an end to the Tyranny of the Tiger as well. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/13/2016	Pnakotic wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Pnakotic wrote: So, obligatory "fun with geography" question for Fallen London residents (and perhaps more particularly Sunless Sea explorers): What lies due East of the Wolfstack Docks? edited by Pnakotic on 7/13/2016 A lot of things, though it can vary as the Unterzee is given to periodic alterations. There's Abbey Rock (home of the SIsterhood), Gaiders Mourn (a pirate nest), the Isle of Cats (another pirates nest), the Khanate (London's imperial rival, also a pirate nest), the Empire of Hands, Irem (a very strange place), the Cleonate (yet another pirates nest), and Saviour's Rocks (a gigantic nest of Sorrow Spiders). My guess is she's giving the secrets to her Sisters or selling them to the Khaganians or the Catties. Abbey Rock is pretty much due East of Bugsby's Marsh, more South than West of Wolfstack. The Isle of Cats is very far to the South, almost to the Elder Continent. Irem is about as far North and East as you could go without performing some metaphysical adventures. I once had a map where you could reach the Isle of Cats by sailing straight East from London - it's position can move around quite a bit. They also have some sort of deal with the Sisterhood. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/12/2016	Vavakx Nonexus wrote: I wonder whether we'll get a second round of Apples of Discord. Oh probably. By the time the next election rolls around, everyone will be well acquainted with how much impact the Mayor has (not much, I expect) and will thus be able to settle back into a less hostile posture. Right now the position of Mayor is fuzzy in terms of how much power and clout it wields, and so there's plenty of mental space in which to inflate the stakes of the election. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/12/2016	I think that, at the end of the day, each candidate can bring something good to london (maybe even the Contrarian). Jenny may deal with the fact that there are homeless children on the roofs of our homes who can't read. The Bishop may weaken the influence of devils in the city and stop the soul trade. The Contrarian may weaken the influence of those like February and find a way to safely Liberate the Night. Whichever of those you favor the most will probably influence how you view the rest of the candidates. Personally I'd like to see the devils take a step back, but ultimately if Jenny wins it probably won't hurt anything. That said I'll be bummed if the Bishop loses. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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ochrasy Posts: 169 7/6/2016	I would like to thank the RNG gods: I got Advancing Your Election Career 4 times in a row! FOUR TIMES! now I will probably only get the card again next week -- Ochrasy. Monster-Hunter. Dangerous and Watchful, favors the Constables. Robitaille. Persuasive and Shadowy, fond of the Devils. Herr Horst. Seeker of Revenge. Open to all social actions on all accounts. Preferably, send any MW-providing actions to Ochrasy.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/6/2016	Yesterday I barely flipped any cards and I got five opportunities to acquire dirty secrets (three Jenny cards and two campaign resource cards). Today I just flipped some cards and I got two. And this might be the RNG being unusually generous, but I’ve been getting more than the usual Criminal and Tomb Colonist faction cards. Or maybe Failbetter opted the percentages to help even things out. As I said before, I think a lot of the negativity directed towards the Fixer mechanics have been something of an overreaction to some relatively minor imperfections. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/6/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/6/2016	DeserterKalak wrote: One thing I'd like people to consider, from an OOC mechanical perspective, is that if the post-election election card gives out resources, the Bishop is likely to dish out wine, the Contrarian will probably dish out revolutionary stuff, and Sinning Jenny will likely give romantic notions or something. I dunno about the rest of you, but I generally have more wine than I have "presumptuous little opportunity" card draws, and I need Touching Love Stories to farm Connected: The Masters and a bunch of other stuff. IC, Sinning Jenny is a badass feminist warrior nun who is fighting for We the People. I know some think the Contrarian is edgy and some think the Bishop is really actually going to give a "damn good thumping" to a race of technologically superior super-beings that view us the same way that we view small animals that get into our houses, but get on Team Hotness already. Oh damnit, I accidentally disliked this. Someone quick, correct my blunder! -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Aazyla Posts: 28 7/7/2016	Maybe I'm just particularly fortunate, but I haven't had too hard of a time reaching level 3 in my fixer career, and I've only started this afternoon. (Though it is worth noting that I am an EF, and so have more actions at my disposal) Additionally, I've thrown my lot in with Sinning Jenny. A vote for the Bishop of Southwark is a vote that will see London embroiled in a foolish fight against Hell. The devils are much better tolerated than engaged in a conflict. TJC is connected too closely with the revolutionaries for my taste, but then again, the status quo has served me nicely. Sinning Jenny may not be a sterling candidate, but clearer than TJC and less foolish than the Bishop. I'm also quite looking forward to seeing all the campaign has to offer, and like Spacecatte, I'm hoping to see some of the consequences some of our candidates have invited in. edited by Aazyla on 7/7/2016 -- A single playing card from the Surface, never found in the Neath, adorned with a tight cursive "A" can be found in the ashes, if she's taken interest.
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Unifel Posts: 5 7/7/2016	I, myself, am campaigning for Sinning Jenny. I have no wish to anger my neighbors in the brass embassy, and neither do I want a politician who disagrees with everything - That simply won't end well. -- Prax - an irresistible, compelling, midnight and sinister individual of mysterious and indistinct gender. (http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Prax)
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sweetandcool Posts: 4 7/7/2016	NinjaComedian wrote: sweetandcool wrote: Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once. Hmmm... You wouldn't also be supporting Jenny would you? Or is that too much of a coincidence? Coincidentally, I am wholeheartedly supporting Jenny. Great minds think alike!
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/6/2016	Blaine Davidson wrote: I'm not sure why everyone is panicking over the Fixer class. I only did the Flash Lays to get the lore and received the rest of my Dirty Secrets from Opportunity Cards. The "disadvantages" of Fixers isn't so bad. Plus, I'm excited to see what I'll be able to use my accumulated Public Attention for. Well, it doesn't help that the only new ultimate gear is available to campaigners. (as the boots allow you to gain 2 more points watchful than that old best-in-slot from christmas, 3 more than a noob who choose a watchful mentor, and 5 more than someone who hasn't been around at christmas and choose a different mentor. all the other gifts, while frequently better than free gear, are crushed by some fate-locked best-in-slot.) For some people, this is something really awesome, something they'd pay fate for and being perma-locked out of it because they choose a different methodology stinks. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/6/2016	Re: Boots - As someone else has suggested, if you haven't made progress yet, and haven't selected a gift, then changing election profession won't lower your progress any. Which means you could change profession, pick up the boots, then change back to your preferred path. Even if you have already selected a free gift, you could do that and purchase the boots with Fate. Alas, I'm Fixer lv8, so that's way too late for me without losing 6 levels worth of progress and 30 Fate for what amounts to a +2 boost to my Watchful. But this might be a useful idea for others. ^_^ -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/6/2016	phryne wrote: An option to change your career WITHOUT paying Fate has just opened, for anyone interested! edited by phryne on 7/6/2016 One design flaw I’ve just experienced. If you accidentally click “change profession” or “change candidate” there’s no undo feature asking you “are you sure?” and giving you the opportunity to back out in case you make a mistake or have second thoughts. Now, normally miss-clicks aren’t that big of a deal as the stakes are kind of low. This miss-click however could be rather problematic going forward. Right now, losing small amounts of progress is annoying. A week from now we could have situations where players who have 15 to 20 points of campaign career accidently click “change career/candidate” instead of the flash lay, investigation, publication, or election market and therefore lose half their progress right before the election concludes… I think an easy fix would be to place the “change campaign/career” in their own “second thoughts” area. So we’d have: 1. An Election! London Must Decide! 2. Learn More About the Candidates! 3. Second Thoughts! -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 7/6/2016	Ben wrote: I just changed profession twice and basically reset myself to get the boots and then change BACK to fixer, because I'm no pansy, I picked fixer and I WANT fixer... I just wanted the boots quite a bit. Now to find out if there's a faster way to be gaining then doing the lay and case... 20 pages of stuff to look for clues in... Hahaha, that's the spirit, mate! I was lucky enough that Campaigner suited my RP role, but don't worry as Fixers will get fixed. I'm starting a guide, but it doesn't have all the existing info at the moment, but I hope it'll provide you with some useful information. -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Parelle Posts: 1084 7/5/2016	Whoa, have we seen the mechanic for "choose which quality to use" that's on the short story selection? That's pretty cool and I'm wondering where it might turn up next. -- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog \| Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/5/2016	Parelle wrote: Whoa, have we seen the mechanic for "choose which quality to use" that's on the short story selection? That's pretty cool and I'm wondering where it might turn up next. No, but the results don't change, and i don't think they could change. still, it'd be nice if you needed to get someone drunk, or any other scenario using one of the item sub-traits. you could give them black wings absinthe (you monster), or broken giant or strangling willow (seriously) or tears of the bazaar (why won't he die) or master's blood (what? what? what?) or even greyfeilds 1868 (finally, something sane.) -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/6/2016	We're all going to assemble an impressive quantity of case notes. And those are useful. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/6/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Victor Alexander wrote: Sinning Jenny: SJ is finally making her move, she's been biding her time under the protection of Mr. Wines for a while but has seen an opportunity to form her own base of power. She has assembled a portfolio of secrets, Vake Hunting Nuns, and is building her support base on making a better London. While ultimately, this is all about Sinning Jenny getting what she wants I don't doubt her campaign slogan. After all, striking out and away from Mr. Wines will put her in some danger unless she can maintain her powerbase for a period of time. Her goal is to get elected, get powerful, and keep the people happy enough to keep electing her. Voting for Jenny is truly voting for Jenny, and she might help everyone else out too as long as its in her best interest. You think so? She wouldn't be the first politician to achieve personal power by making promises to the underclasses, but I think there might be more to her campaign than base populism. She's sacrificed a lot, breaking away from her wealthy and powerful patron, without even making political capital from that fact. The Sisters of the Abbey, too, might be her loyal allies, but they're not exactly loyal for loyalty's sake - they have a common mission, and don't seem the sorts to throw that away for a mere municipal election. No, I have a certain degree of faith that Jenny is sincere in her desire to improve the lot of London's poor and vulnerable, of defanging some of the city's terrors. Assuming she isn't conning everyone, like she conned her gentlemen. I'm not persuaded of her good intentions. The Jovial Contrarian has some pretty good intentions within and under the theatrics. The Bishop wears his good intentions on his sleeve. But Jenny's campaign has an absolute dearth of good intentions where the candidate is concerned. All we see are some promises, [spoiler]absolutely worthless coming from a someone willing to betray her customers, who lest we forget were promised discretion[/spoiler], and hints of infighting/tactical changes. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/6/2016	getting the card for the Flash Lay is always chancy, I fear. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/6/2016	winrarphile wrote: Oh my, my infinite piles of blackmail material, and favours finally come into play. I'm already up to level 9, but I have a feeling somebody's already hit the cap. What does that help with? Heck, does anyone have a decent guide to this festival? If there is one here, it's buried in complaints and lore-related talks. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Herbal Tea Posts: 23 7/6/2016	I wonder if there will be actions that allow you to sabotage opposing candidates' campaigns. It's pretty common in real life and it would be fun if you can use blackmail material, compromising documents, making waves or connections to help stall the campaigns you don't favor. Or you might encounter NPCs from opposing factions in London that might want to do you harm if your campaigner level is high. It's not hard to imagine some revolutionaries attempting to assassinate a notable and outspoken supporter of the other candidates, devils trying to swindle opponents' souls, and ladies and gentlemen of the night certainly know a lot of useful dirty little secrets. I personally would find it quite amusing if we could have some storeylets regarding lost candidates after the election. One thing that I would like to see is storeylets available only to campaigners that won or those who lost. Winners might earn a grudge from losers, and losers may be snubbed by winners, thus leading to different events. Anyway I'm having a lot of fun with this event, I hope we can have non-human candidates next time, just for equality's sake.
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Màiread Posts: 385 7/6/2016	Nothing has been announced. I suspect there will be some reward, but don't feel bounced into spending lots of resources you don't have. The festival is only just starting and there's more content to come. I'm not 100% sure, but with limited stats and resources the best ways to progress at the moment are probably either waiting for the festival cards and/or doing investigations, since you don't have to use items to progress. Flash lays also don't cost anything, but I'm not sure how tough that is in terms of skill checks. -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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Guest 7/5/2016	An Election! London Must Decide! If only.
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Brizayne Posts: 2 7/5/2016	Y'know, I try to play this game without looking up advice, reading on forums, or spoiling storylines. What this means is that I'm stuck with a profession that has to do twice the work to progress, AND I missed out on getting Watchful footwear. Thirty fate or another year, if they're even there next year. You're SUPPOSED to play this game without looking up shit, right? So why was I punished for it?
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/5/2016	Brizayne wrote: Teaspoon wrote: I think your assumption that you should play without looking things up is erroneous if you're interested in stats maximisation, because you very much should in that case. Whereas if you're just playing casually/for roleplaying, then it doesn't matter if you're optimising or not, because it's a flexible enough game that you can reach all your goals eventually. Even someone who's not playing the game with optimization in mind shouldn't be pleased that they have to spend twice the actions to raise their campaign profession. Do we really have to spend twice as many actions? It's possible to get secrets from cards, the election lasts two weeks, and the rank only goes up to 20. Any imbalances should be righted, but I'm not sure they're as bad as have been made out. And if changes need to be made, maybe Fixers get something extra later (if that's not already the case)? Maybe things should be a little harder for the campaigners in the higher levels (if not already the case)? :P edited by Anne Auclair on 7/5/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/5/2016	Lisbella Peridot wrote: Robin Alexander wrote: Little annoyed by the heavy reliance on fate . . . I don't mind fate for EF stories, new/exclusive items, or even to change a person's mind, but . . . charging fate to advance a storyline - particularly on a festival - seems a bit irksome. I'm relying heavily on the RNG to advance my career, while someone with Fate could breeze through, and it seems a bit harsh for a game that promises not to gear things primarily to paying-members, with a sort of equality. Don't get me wrong; loving the festival . . . interesting mechanics, great story, but just a bit fed up with having to waste actions and do flash-lays while other people can get ahead just by having real-life cash. You can draw the card for advancing without paying. Yes, I know, but - like I say - it relies heavily on the RNG . . . Basically, a person can go days without drawing that card, whereas a person with fate can 'draw it' over and over and over . . . the only thing to do in this festival appears to be advancing your career (so far), by gaining certain qualities determined by your temporary profession, and this is hindered by the RNG. This usually wouldn't be a problem, such as with the "Feast of the Rose", as everyone is in the same boat, but - to my memory - there was no fate option on the Feast to spend your masquing whenever you wanted (everyone was in an equal position, fate or not). The fate involved was mainly for exclusive companions/items. Here, there's an actual imbalance. We have fate for items (which is fair), but fate to advance . . . meaning a person with enough fate could climb to the 18 cap (I think it's 18 anyway), whereas an unlucky free player might not even get up to 5 or so . . . especially if they can't play all day to play the maximum amount of actions, due to work and so forth. It feels that fate players are getting a massive benefit.
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Sir Goomy Posts: 111 7/5/2016	Let the flower bloom, petals! LET IT BLOOM! Be reasonable, vote for Jenny now and avoid making the grave mistake of giving power to a fanatical madman or a fence-sitting pushover! ... Okay, I'm done. -- Social actions, invites, roleplaying and general merrymaking is more than welcomed! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sir~Goo
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/5/2016	Man, I'm just really tempted to go on 20 Investigations and then do 20 Flash Lays. I don't care that I'm a Campaigner - the Short Story RNG just hates me. Edit: And by 20 I really mean 17. Also, probably not gonna give into temptation; I'm just a bit frustrated. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/5/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Harlocke Posts: 506 7/5/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Harlocke wrote: Is there any penalty for switching candidates before progressing your career? I'm considering quickly switching twice to get all the companions before settling on my actual favorite. You lose half your election career each time you switch. Not sure how that works if you're just starting out. There might be no penalty or you might have to gain a minimum EC score so you have something to lose? Either way, the cost is small, not counting the fate price of the companions. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/5/2016 Just experimented with this. I was able to switch candidates repeatedly, seemingly with no penalty, before my career was built up at all. -- I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Harlocke
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/5/2016	With a couple of my cellars of wine in exchange for dirty secrets, some stories I had hoarded in my inventory and the kind donation of a generous and bold gentleman, I climbed to Fixer 5 today. And still, it was quite the effort, fixing is hard work. Still worth it, though. I will spend the rest of the election digging secrets up leisurely and hitting that beautiful 20. For Jenny. edited by miss_all_sunday on 7/5/2016 edited by miss_all_sunday on 7/5/2016 -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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Stygota Posts: 64 7/5/2016	Shalinoth wrote: I'm at 58 points of a Flash Lay and nothing has been Electoral themed about it. I'm still enjoying the first time doing one. However, menaces are probably going to eject me from it soon (not sure what happens then) and the exit option doesn't say whether I lose all 58 progress. I assume I pause the 58 but I risk Suspicion-imprisonment (or the inconvenience of Ablution guzzling). I think the only really "Electoral" bits are some of the obstacles - I know that there is a campaign or polling inspector who you have to befuddle. Ah, if you are ejected, I believe (unless it's been changed) you do lose all progress. If you're getting close to 5 in a Menace, you should stockpile Up Your Sleeve - you can burn a bit (3 or 4?) if you hit the card that pops on 5 to lower it down enough to continue. I'm not sure of the exact amount of Up Your Sleeve you need to avoid ejection and lower it enough to continue - it may be as low as 2. Also, of course, if you get Making Your Move early, hold on to it so you don't have to hit 100 progress to force it to pop. -- A once hungry, now sated* Hunter with a silver tongue*: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Stygota
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/5/2016	[spoiler] My impression was that it's not relating to the old aristocracy at Mt. Palmerston. I thought Sir Tanah-Chook had it right, just another game of "bait the humans" -- with disastrous results for London and much good for Hell.[/spoiler] -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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Stygota Posts: 64 7/5/2016	Parelle wrote: May I suggest for those looking to write short stories to invest in an Ornate Typewriter? It's significantly easier skill check than some and has fewer negative consequences if you fail. Yes indeed. [spoiler]Also, if for some reason you haven't founded a newspaper yet, I believe it can provide a little extra umpf there.[/spoiler] edited by Stygota on 7/5/2016 -- A once hungry, now sated* Hunter with a silver tongue*: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Stygota
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/5/2016	@absimiliard: It also helps to have another person's opinion on your character too. I think I know which career to go with now so thank you again. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/5/2016	Amelia Syrus wrote: That's more or less why I'm having trouble deciding. I thought Fixer seemed like the person whose behind the scenes and tries to spread the word through a hushed tone. The "Plant a seed of doubt and watch it grow" sort and as a character she has done that before. On the other hand, fighting is a large part of her character and she likes being disruptive. So with that in mind, I think agitator feels like it would suit her more. I'll think on it some more but I think agitator might work better. Thanks. Oh, I definitely get the feeling my Abs would "Fix" things with their fists on occasion. I think Fixer would include things like, "We need to hold a rally in the Blind Helmsman, clear it out," which might well involve bribing the management -- but would also surely involve tossing out a bunch of folks bodily. I think it also includes some outright threatening, "Look, stand by your promise of support for Jenny -- it'd be a shame if something was to happen to your fine smuggling business if you didn't." The Agitator felt to more like it was getting 'jobs' like "There's a rally over there, for the other candidate, go disrupt it." Perhaps equally as likely towards violence or threats, but more aggressively in your face. Amelia is generally pretty in your face, which was why I thought Agitator, but -- again -- that's probably just my personal impression. If it's helpful to you to know how someone else is thinking about the jobs, then I'm happy to have helped. -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/5/2016	I see references to "publishing a paper to support a candidate." Is that a card option? Seems like a fine way for me to abuse the power of the Press. -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: Oddly, I had both before choosing. That might have been a bug since fixed, though. These two are separate cards with different names. You can draw them both. In fact, if you play the non-tutorial one first, it won't wipes your tutorial quality so you can hold on the tutorial one. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/5/2016	MadmanAtW wrote: For publishing a paper in support of a candidate- what kinds of copy do you need? I just did this with an alt. It needed 24 Salacious Copy and 24 Meritorious Copy and [spoiler] gave 1 Public Attention; 34 Incendiary Gossip; 3 Favours in High Place and some MW [/spoiler] edit - typo edited by reveurciel on 7/5/2016 edited by reveurciel on 7/5/2016 -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Sub optimal choice is normally not a problem. The problem is when you create an event where players effort are measured up against other players and it is not even a meaningful choice to be suboptimal, just blind luck. And just being worse isn't interesting in itself. Yes, suck it up, but don't applaud it. If they don't fix it this year, fix it next year. It shouldn't be pepper / paprika / poop forever. By the way: [Cut content - Don't post unreleased content to the forums. Last warning. - Chris] edited by Chris Gardiner on 7/5/2016 edited by Chris Gardiner on 7/5/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Màiread Posts: 385 7/4/2016	Barnaby wrote: Kukapetal wrote: My character would never support the Calendar council. He knows what those revolutionaries are really up to and would gladly see them all dead if he thought he could pull it off. edited by Kukapetal on 7/4/2016 Why not? Sounds like fun. EDIT: I can't believe it took me this long to ask it, but any info on who's backing Jenny if not the Masters? Beside the shao-lin nuns, I mean, that couldn't be enough support. edited by Barnaby on 7/4/2016 Never underestimate a nun. -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/4/2016	@Spacecatte: stipulating that your information is correct, then two out of three of the candidates, at least, do not fit the definition of "honest politician" as "one who stays bought." -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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spacecatte Posts: 42 7/4/2016	malthaussen wrote: @Spacecatte: stipulating that your information is correct, then two out of three of the candidates, at least, do not fit the definition of "honest politician" as "one who stays bought." -- Mal oh don't get me wrong, you're totally right; i didn't mean to insinuate that the bishop was honest about being a politician, but rather honest that he just really, really, really hates the devils. :P I think if he found out about his infernal backers he'd chase them with a blunderbuss, though. not to say he wouldn't accept the money from the actual church backers. that is to say, i'm actually very anti-bishop. for who i'm throwing my hat in the ring for, right now it's a toss up between jenny and the contrarian. the contrarian out of my obligation to go with whatever would best support the Liberation (not being helped by the fact that he's showing signs of skeeving out on it), but jenny because honestly everything i've seen from her so far is just extremely cool. -- "That cat is walking around in a space suit." The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things. Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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maleclypse Posts: 259 7/4/2016	While investigation seems to take less actions than usual, the flash lay takes just as many as always. Welcome to the slow ride fixers. -- Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maleclypse
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/4/2016	@laseule: every point of Watchful is critical, especially to those who own a goat or are Seeking. Even fully-capped Watchful doesn't help much with those. Whether or not 2-3 extra points is better than the boosts of the other goodies, is something each person has to decide for himself. -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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suinicide Posts: 2409 7/4/2016	Those wax sealed boots give a watchful +5. New best boots. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Skinnyman wrote: Good info, Estelle, as usual! You have multiple acc and checked these options I guess. So, for now, that's all? Campaigner has boots, Fixer has a new weapo, Jenny has some plants and the Contrarian has a Tomb Colonist. Waiting for more info even if I already got the card which doesn't have any options on it. Should be unlocked after picking the desired options; funny to see a useless card with Abundant frequency. No, I talked to people for info. It is not particularly enjoyable to charge into new content by firing up a bunch of alts, you know -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/4/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: Campaigners only need to write Compelling Short Stories to advance (Public Attention and Convincing Rhetoric) ^They also get the best Watchful shoes and can burn money to advance fast. Recommended for end game players. Arrrghh!! I wish I had read this before making a choice. I'm stuck with the worst job, and I've missed out on the boots! There doesn't even seem to be an option to change your choice. Waiting a year for another chance at the boots is going to be really really annoying.
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Paflick Posts: 29 7/4/2016	scarlettbleustar wrote: John Moose wrote: I assume changing careers isn't possible? I'm moderately devastated at the poisoned pen being apparently beyond my reach, even if I use fate. Darn it. Changing careers is possible, you're just required to give up half of your built up Election Career and you dont get a new free gift so you would need to buy the pen with fate. It is totally doable though. That is to change your candidate, not your career. -- Pleased to make your acquaintance! A party made up of Paflick, Wilmont, Thaddeus Dorschine, and The Abominable Autophage
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JimmyTMalice Posts: 237 7/4/2016	If anyone's wondering about the unique items, the one that I picked up was a Reactionary Tomb Colonist, which I believe requires you to support the Jovial Contrarian. He gives +7 Persuasive and +1 Bizarre. Edit: Since I first picked him up, he's been changed to +8 Persuasive. edited by JimmyTMalice on 7/4/2016 -- Gideon Stormstrider, the Esoteric Gadgeteer Jimmy T. Malice, gone. A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/4/2016	RandomWalker wrote: Estelle Knoht wrote: Campaigners only need to write Compelling Short Stories to advance (Public Attention and Convincing Rhetoric) ^They also get the best Watchful shoes and can burn money to advance fast. Recommended for end game players. Arrrghh!! I wish I had read this before making a choice. I'm stuck with the worst job, and I've missed out on the boots! There doesn't even seem to be an option to change your choice. Waiting a year for another chance at the boots is going to be really really annoying. Yeah, I made that mistake, too . . . I thought the item was temporary, too, so I may have missed out on an awesome piece of footwear. Ah well, live and learn. My stats - save for Dangerous - are maxed out, so I should be able to grind short stories relatively easily once I get my action points refreshed . . . I'm just finishing a flash lay at the moment. This also came right in the middle of my 'Fidgeting Writer' grind, so I may just give up on this festival and focus on that . . . The festival I'm most looking forward to is the Zee Festival, as I need to tweak my destiny XD (So glad I can't change destinies for this one, as I also maxed out my bank account, so I would have lost out - oops) XD
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Andileah Posts: 7 7/4/2016	You can also finish investigating in Mrs. Plenty's Carnival. It was the last storylet option on the page. -- Andileah, an adventurous Midnighter up for invites and most social actions http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Andileah~ Belledame Sansmerci, mercenary and Seeker: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BelledameSPACESYMBOLSansmerci
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maleclypse Posts: 259 7/4/2016	Complaints so far. Investigations require university access to finish. Investigations don't tell you when you are ready to finish. -- Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maleclypse
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/4/2016	You bastards WOULD put out two new companions that I can obtain this election! Feeding my companion collecting mania isn't going to sate it, you know. The hunger never ends. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Fadewalker Posts: 136 7/4/2016	Well, it occurred to me that the pair of Wax-Hardened Boots is watchful, respectable and helpful, and almost everyone likes it.(And it is reliable.) Sounds a good candidate. -- A fervent supporter of the Council and the Masters.
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Cthonius Posts: 362 7/4/2016	Perhaps being a fixer was a bad move, but honestly the choice was calling to me. I'll take the misfortune. For the Contrarian. Consider my friends, Jenny is a reasonable and skilled woman, one who nearly earned my vote. But what does she mean she helps the common folk? What plans do her lofty goals have? The Contrarian is not so secretly connected with anarchists, true, but their methods are plain, and while their truest purpose may be even loftier we know it cuts to the heart of the inequalities that beset us, rather than tying a mere cloth around the wound. Perhaps in time we'll even see Jenny aligning with these anarchists, if the rumors of her shrugging off the only master on her side are to be believed. As for the Bishop? Yes, fight against hell. Went so well last time. His plans are so ludicrous that even Devils support them our of humor. -- Cthonius, gone North. Gone. Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/4/2016	Grenem wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Barnaby wrote: Kukapetal wrote: My character would never support the Calendar council. He knows what those revolutionaries are really up to and would gladly see them all dead if he thought he could pull it off. edited by Kukapetal on 7/4/2016 Why not? Sounds like fun. EDIT: I can't believe it took me this long to ask it, but any info on who's backing Jenny if not the Masters? Beside the shao-lin nuns, I mean, that couldn't be enough support. edited by Barnaby on 7/4/2016 [spoiler]She's funding her campaign by blackmailing her former customers.[/spoiler] evidence, or theory? From the Flash Lay. Anne Auclair wrote: Do you need any special qualities to get election cards where you meet the candidates? No qualities are necessary, though they seem to be the rarer sort of Standard - I've yet to see Sinning Jenny or the Bishop. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Leon McCarran Posts: 15 7/4/2016	While I rather like our Contrarian friend and run in similar circles to him, a fellow of such a... well, contrarian nature, will most likely cause more trouble for London than is worth it. On an intellectual level I quite admire the fellow, but as a Mayor I think it would spell disaster. No, I think in this race I will throw my lot in with the Nun of the Night herself. She may be genuine or she may be a puppet. In her I see the least of three uncomfortable choices. May Fortune Favor the Bold. -- "It seems that the Road has risen up to meet us sooner than we thought." --Leon McCarran; Bohemian, Scholar, Spy, and seeker of mysteries.
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Emain Ablach Posts: 348 7/4/2016	!!! VOTE JENNY !!! [spoiler]Sexy and sinful ninja nun who hunt space-bats. What else ?[/spoiler] !!! VOTE JENNY !!! -- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
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Monsieur Dummour Posts: 29 7/4/2016	I admit, when I decided to favour the Contrarian I didn't know Jenny has a gang of ninja nuns. Or that she cares about people. With this information, I have no other choice but to vote for the ninja nun. I'm a little petal now. edited by Monsieur Dummour on 7/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Monsieur%20Dummour
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/4/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: spacecatte wrote: would anyone mind helping out with a guide on how to use short stories to further campaign progress? for instance, what's the minimum quality of short story to use/best use of actions per campaign progress in stories? it says that the minimum value is a thrilling story but i can't tell if that means that it won't accept anything below a thrilling story or if it just means that that's the worst progress per action item It is a typo, you can use Compelling Short Story (which is even cheaper than Thrilling). Like the text said, the item offered doesn't make a difference to the result. Sacrificing a Classic only grants the same thing. It's worth noting that if you go to write a Compelling Short Story and fail the check at the end, you'll get the next quality down, which means all your actions (and items) that were put into making it have essentially been put to waste when you receive a Competent Short Story instead of a Compelling one. Guess which Fixer found this out the hard way!... -_- Edit: it's also worth noting that trying to rush it with your few remaining actions using Laudanum is unwise, as failing twice in a row brings your freshly-begun short story to 0 potential, and if you're using your phone browser the one option available (which you didn't read clearly because it's in tiny writing and you're on your phone so you can't mouse-over the action's prerequisites) will result in a Trade Secret (60E) being flushed down the toilet. This has not been a great election experience, so I'm going to bed. Goodnight, everyone. edited by Kittenpox on 7/4/2016 -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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Fincar Posts: 41 7/4/2016	Grenem wrote: Fincar wrote: Well man I dodged a bullet there, fixer sounded like the most fun and then I read this. Now I am torn between the Bishop and the Contrarian (no ofense to Jenny but I realy do not know much of her). Jenny's playing the part of the ministering angel. she's both a prostitute and a nun, apparently of a sect that's looser with their vows of chastity or something. She works for mr. wines, but she has recently refused all support from him- whether because she refuses to be a puppet or because he's done something to earn her ire, or even because she simply wants to avoid the implication that she's the master's puppet, true or false. Oh I know who she is and what she does. I meant to say that I do not know enogh of her motivations and goals, while the Bishop wrestles bears and hates devils the Contrarian likes to discuss as much as possible, just because he enjoys debate and has some ties with the revolutionaries (I mean if someone told me he just got into the election for the joy of competition and not a specific goal in mind I would belive them). Jenny other than being a prostitue nun with conections to the masters, I do not know her. Nothing of her goals, motivations or character (becuase let us be honest she is really underused unless you go for the Ambition: Bag a legend). -- A person of some little importance... really I am open to most forms of social interactions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Fincar
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/4/2016	Morkan Kassington wrote: I am not worried about the devils funding the Bishop, I am more worried about the Bishop not knowing. Or knowing, but let it slide. Thats the spirit! As a fan of the Bazaar, money is money. Why turn it down when you plan on shoving it all back into their faces in the form of lots and lots of [soon to be dead and chained to triremes] riflemen? And that even assumes the Bishop knows. The devils are as enigmatic as they are well...devilish! The bishop funded the Anarchist to bomb the embassy and the Devils (potentially) turned it to their favor. There are any number of Londoners from Crooked Crosses to the fine ranks of Scarlet Saints who would happily hand the church the Devil's money either because they believe in Bazaarian economics, devilish lulz, or are simply on both sides simultaniously. Plenty of go-betweens who can give the campaign money without letting the Bishop of Southwark know where it came from. After all, he might be a fine wrestler but he cannot easily wrestle secrets. Those are MY domain after all. Well, Mr. Secret's domain but since he is my character...same difference. edited by ShroudedInLight on 7/4/2016 -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/4/2016	Fincar wrote: Well man I dodged a bullet there, fixer sounded like the most fun and then I read this. Now I am torn between the Bishop and the Contrarian (no ofense to Jenny but I realy do not know much of her). Jenny's playing the part of the ministering angel. she's both a prostitute and a nun, apparently of a sect that's looser with their vows of chastity or something. She works for mr. wines, but she has recently refused all support from him- whether because she refuses to be a puppet or because he's done something to earn her ire, or even because she simply wants to avoid the implication that she's the master's puppet, true or false. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/4/2016	spacecatte wrote: Grenem wrote: Does anyone know what the faction cards do? [and yes, there are faction cards, i just drew the contrarian's. it's a 1-action source of compelling rhetoric, or of a certain quantity of letters.] i've drawn jenny's card, and it looks like either learning about their campaign or messing with it somehow is the primary use for them. i have an echo of jenny's rhetoric, and i have to thank you for echoing the contrarian's, the one i was most curious about. looks like i'll be going with the candidate that doesn't make childish potshots at the other candidates while making a joke of my good pals the rubberies :P To be fair, he probably didn't make the posters, and the tomb-colonists and rubberies have never really gotten along- tomb-colonists resent that they're actively exiled frequently, and society pretends they don't exist, while the rubberies are allowed to live in the city and even attend the same parties they're banned from. rubberies resent being killed on a regular basis, while tomb-colonists are left alive. It's a greener glass on the other side of the mirror sort of thing. edited by Grenem on 7/4/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/4/2016	Item - the Forgotten Quarter may be the wrong place to pull election cards. I pulled ten there, saw nothing, then realised where I was, moved to Veilgarden, and immediately pulled an election card. This may of course have just been the RNG, but I'm throwing it out there just in case. edited by Teaspoon on 7/4/2016 -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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spacecatte Posts: 42 7/4/2016	Grenem wrote: Does anyone know what the faction cards do? [and yes, there are faction cards, i just drew the contrarian's. it's a 1-action source of compelling rhetoric, or of a certain quantity of letters.] i've drawn jenny's card, and it looks like either learning about their campaign or messing with it somehow is the primary use for them. i have an echo of jenny's rhetoric, and i have to thank you for echoing the contrarian's, the one i was most curious about. looks like i'll be going with the candidate that doesn't make childish potshots at the other candidates while making a joke of my good pals the rubberies :P -- "That cat is walking around in a space suit." The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things. Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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Aegis1000 Posts: 64 7/18/2016	Welp, congratulations to Jenny and her supporters. Now on to my other buisness, which does not include planning a coup. Incidentally, does zubmarine insurance cover trips to the Khan's Heart? And no need to dismiss those functionaries. I'm sure they're innocent. edited by Aegis1000 on 7/18/2016 -- Aegis1000,a midnight, sinister, inescapable and sagacious gentleman. Intent on taking over the world, or at least Fallen London. Indescribably awesome and only marginally narcissistic.
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Aazyla Posts: 28 7/18/2016	^ Seconding MrBurnside. This was quite the enjoyable festival, thanks everyone! Though I was hoping for a quality, sort of like a Connected token but not exactly, to extend into content with the three of them later down the road. If our mayor does become more prominent in Fallen London, a reflection of the surface put in – or noted lack thereof – would be very interesting. -- A single playing card from the Surface, never found in the Neath, adorned with a tight cursive "A" can be found in the ashes, if she's taken interest.
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 7/18/2016	I'd like to offer congratulations to the members of these Forums who added to the colour of the proceedings by starting, and keeping up, appropriate role-play and other related threads. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/18/2016	miss_all_sunday wrote: Kaigen wrote: Jenny's words to a supporter. I am so glad I kept grinding Fixer and notability for this lady. This was so lovely, and touching. I can't say it was touching, but it makes me feel a little better about having the least moral of the three win the election. I can empathize with her looking in the wrong places, feeling outmatched, and breaking out the brass knuckles. i still don't like her, or think she was worthy. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Myrto Posts: 209 7/4/2016	Yeah, I chose Campaigner and Agitator for two of my characters. I made alts so I could experience different content, so that's what I'm doing with them. My third character would definitely be a Fixer, based on their character and other in-game choices, but I'm hesitant to choose that one, based on the discussion here. I'm sort of regretting reading this thread. On the other hand, I'm glad I did. I'm holding off on playing the election with Myrto, trying to make a decision. Play the metagame or remain in character? Ugh. Edited to say that Myrto will be a Fixer, because that is what Myrto does: works behind the scenes to make things happen. They wouldn't be strolling up the street handing out leaflets. So, the hard road for Myrto, but that's fine. I got the Zub for Myrto the hard way too. This way I can see all three branches. Now, to decide who to support! edited by Myrto on 7/5/2016 -- Myrto, a mysterious veteran spy who is only on their own side. Married to navchaa! Edith Alpha Doyle, social climber with grand ambitions; Correspondent who would be happy to assist you in whatever way she can. , teenage orphan who came to the Neath to pursue a career in crime; monster-hunter. Currently on the Seeking road.
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Fincar Posts: 41 7/4/2016	Well man I dodged a bullet there, fixer sounded like the most fun and then I read this. Now I am torn between the Bishop and the Contrarian (no ofense to Jenny but I realy do not know much of her). -- A person of some little importance... really I am open to most forms of social interactions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Fincar
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Mr. Secrets Posts: 101 7/4/2016	Mr. Secrets (my character), picked Fixer as well before I went on the forums (but at least I got a cool pen out of it). However, as a Fixer I have an extremely important question for folks who have advanced their political careers. When you advance your career, does it take all of your items such as Convincing Rhetoric and Dirty secrets or just the one? I want to gather all the information I can about the various Canidates for STORY before I progress along supporting Sinning Jenny. Though I am somewhat disturbed by her refusal of Mr. Wine's gifts. After all, Mr. Wines is a fair, humorous, and equitable fellow and goddamn have you ever tried getting him to pay you? Sinning Jenny is lucky the man gave her a single echo instead of just letting her pick up scraps from his various parties. -- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well. The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	spacecatte wrote: would anyone mind helping out with a guide on how to use short stories to further campaign progress? for instance, what's the minimum quality of short story to use/best use of actions per campaign progress in stories? it says that the minimum value is a thrilling story but i can't tell if that means that it won't accept anything below a thrilling story or if it just means that that's the worst progress per action item It is a typo, you can use Compelling Short Story (which is even cheaper than Thrilling). Like the text said, the item offered doesn't make a difference to the result. Sacrificing a Classic only grants the same thing. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/4/2016	I am not worried about the devils funding the Bishop, I am more worried about the Bishop not knowing. Or knowing, but let it slide. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/4/2016	lady ciel wrote: To be honest I don't think the election mechanics are suitable for newer players - Flash Lays; writing Short Stories and even investigating to a lesser extent are tricky if you haven't got the stats or resources. That doesn't even take into account that newspapers and parties are mentioned as sources for some things and that Notability will also count towards the results. They are also all action intensive so I do understand Fixers frustration in not being able to get the 2 things they need to progress by just doing one of them. But it is only the first day and I will wait and see what else turns up during the campaigning. I will explore all the options even the ones that don't give the qualities to progress my career just to see the text and find out as much about all the candidates as I can. I hope everybody can find some way to enjoy the election. The Flash Lays have adjustable difficulty, so they should be in theory easier than normal. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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xcea Posts: 15 7/4/2016	I am new and this is my first election. How does this work? – Prof. Xcea
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/4/2016	dov wrote: Angus Turner wrote: To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. But NiteBrite endorsed Jenny, so... Yes, but with all due respect, NiteBrite does not have a very large pile of rats. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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dov Posts: 2580 7/4/2016	An Individual wrote: If I can find an efficient source of Touching Love Stories I'd use those instead. This depends on your definition of "efficient". Ambushing couriers in Spite (2 actions) gives a Touching Love story with a fairly frequent alternative success. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Harlocke Posts: 506 7/4/2016	So the only candidate locked items are the three companions? The dame-harbinger, anchoress, and tomb colonist? If you don't get them this year, will they still be available next year? Are the same candidates going to run again? If there are different candidates in 2017, with different items, these could be limited. Then again, even if the candidates do change next year, they might grant the same companions. edited by Harlocke on 7/4/2016 -- I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Harlocke
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/4/2016	miss_all_sunday wrote: (and I picked Fixer). ... For Jenny, people. For Jenny. You have spoken the words and you have spoken them rightly. What's your profile link, petal? -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	lady ciel wrote: To be honest I don't think the election mechanics are suitable for newer players - Flash Lays; writing Short Stories and even investigating to a lesser extent are tricky if you haven't got the stats or resources. That doesn't even take into account that newspapers and parties are mentioned as sources for some things and that Notability will also count towards the results. They are also all action intensive so I do understand Fixers frustration in not being able to get the 2 things they need to progress by just doing one of them. That's a good thing, though. For people who aren't invested or happens to have alts, they get a snazzy gift just for voting or taking a few rounds. And people who are established enough (Notability) and willing to put in the effort (career levels) can outweigh many of these little votes. It is the first day, and the first iteration of the festival, so the best idea is to sample everything you want like a good festival IRL. Of course, whine about Fixers too. Fear the day when the Treachery of Names hit the world and we end up with the Struggling Fixer. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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ochrasy Posts: 169 7/4/2016	xcea wrote: I am new and this is my first election. How does this work? – Prof. Xcea welcome, this is everyone's first election! we are all lost. check out Estelle Knoht's post on the first page of this thread, it has some info about how it works (it's under a spoiler tag) -- Ochrasy. Monster-Hunter. Dangerous and Watchful, favors the Constables. Robitaille. Persuasive and Shadowy, fond of the Devils. Herr Horst. Seeker of Revenge. Open to all social actions on all accounts. Preferably, send any MW-providing actions to Ochrasy.
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Mikarissa Posts: 60 7/4/2016	Mikarissa wrote: So, I got annoyed by that one persistent card prompting me to advance my career and opted not to see it again, thinking I could advance just as easily from the pinned storylet. What I didn't realize is that the necessary option is fate-locked. I would love to take part in the election and help Jenny, but I don't really have much Fate to spare, certainly not 20*20 that I would apparently need to get to the end. Does anyone have any helpful advice? Is there a way to revert my unfortunate decision, of have I basically locked myself out of this election for good? Aaaand I have just drawn the card again Thank you, whomever was responsible. I am most grateful.
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/4/2016	Angus Turner wrote: dov wrote: Angus Turner wrote: To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. But NiteBrite endorsed Jenny, so... Yes, but with all due respect, NiteBrite does not have a very large pile of rats. To be fair, Spacemarine9 is burnt to a crisp by the stars, so they don't either. [spoiler]Plus the Contrarian doesn't support the Liberation of Night, despite being pro-revolutionary. Considering Space would have sacrificed all of their rats and a dozen infants at the chance of the LoN occurring, I think they'd have a few issues on that to speak of.[/spoiler] edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/4/2016 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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Emain Ablach Posts: 348 7/4/2016	Johny Topside wrote: I want to support the Bishop, I really do, that fella's (I think) driven to stop Hell regardless of where his funding is coming from, but, that's about all he wants to do. Jenny on the other hand seems driven to help the poor (there's a colony of homeless children on our city's roofs). What do? The problem with the Bishop is A) he works with devils, how to trust him ? B) if he doesn't work with them, he takes their money anyway and thinks he will outsmart them ? Sadly, not a chance. C) if he doesn't even know devils are funding his campaign, that shows how informed he is. In any case, he seems (to me) either corrupted, stupid or unskilled. :'/ -- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
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Beau Mercy Posts: 76 7/4/2016	If the pre-election polling is any indication, Sinning Jenny has it in the bag. :/ -- Monster Hunter Beau Mercy, Friend of the Church, A Blood-Cousin to Predators, Straw-haired Tomcat
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dov Posts: 2580 7/4/2016	Beau Mercy wrote: If the pre-election polling is any indication, Sinning Jenny has it in the bag. :/ The people who reply to polls on the forums (myself included) are a very small subset of the wider player base. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/4/2016	Oh no, someone pointed out I could change candidates and get the other companions, WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME? -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Dr Cop Posts: 38 7/4/2016	Mikarissa wrote: So, I got annoyed by that one persistent card prompting me to advance my career and opted not to see it again, thinking I could advance just as easily from the pinned storylet. What I didn't realize is that the necessary option is fate-locked. I would love to take part in the election and help Jenny, but I don't really have much Fate to spare, certainly not 20*20 that I would apparently need to get to the end. Does anyone have any helpful advice? Is there a way to revert my unfortunate decision, of have I basically locked myself out of this election for good? I'm in the exact same situation for the exact same reason, and would be equally grateful if things were to mysteriously start working again... -- fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/hawkinsssable
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/4/2016	Sir Joseph Marlen wrote: Angus Turner wrote: dov wrote: Angus Turner wrote: To anyone still undecided, I hope you keep in mind the following fact: the rat-lord, may he burn eternally, has publicly and decisively endorsed The Jovial Contrarian. But NiteBrite endorsed Jenny, so... Yes, but with all due respect, NiteBrite does not have a very large pile of rats. To be fair, Spacemarine9 is burnt to a crisp by the stars, so they don't either. snip Nothing Remains of him. Nothing but rats. [spoiler]And while it's true that The Contrarian doesn't support the Liberation, neither does any other candidate. So you can't really claim that The Contrarian's anti-Liberation stance would be a deal-breaker for Spacemarine9. If only we could ask him. If only there was anything left of him other than dust and cindered bone.[/spoiler] -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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Happy Londoner Posts: 74 7/4/2016	Kylestien wrote: anyone voting for the Bishop under the pretense of kill the devils needs to think twice. Hey, Kylestien! Have you just been campaining or what? Are these the horned ones that had set you up against our Reverence? -- My profile: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Happy~Londoner
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/4/2016	Why do you need the university? I agree that not directing to the finish when you have enough progress is annoying. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Ben Posts: 657 7/4/2016	Well, I'm going to spend fate to get those boots. The pen isn't what I'd have gotten if I'd been allowed to pick, but it suits me personwise. The boots are best stats, so of course I'll get them. I just feel sad for anybody who picked the trumpet. A 10 fate item without good stats (It's offer to FIXERS who go for the contrarian) ... -- The wind has no destination. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
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John Moose Posts: 276 7/4/2016	maleclypse wrote: Also there are now two change candidate options. One costs fate and one does not. I assume one of those options is supposed to be change career. edited by maleclypse on 7/4/2016 The fate option is there so you can change candidate without losing your progress. No intended career changes, I'm afraid.
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Ginkgo Posts: 2 7/4/2016	Well... Blast. I wish I'd known about the career-specific items prior to selecting a career. I suppose I'll be waiting for the next election then. edited by Ginkgo on 7/4/2016
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/4/2016	@ Blaine: "Hell has become a problem lately..." So, are you the one who blew up the Brass Embassy? -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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phryne Posts: 1351 7/4/2016	OMG the game totally freezes for me all the time. Guess I'll wait until the furore has died down a little... -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Monsieur Dummour Posts: 29 7/4/2016	Of course the election started right in the middle of my flash lay AND a particularly costly abition-related investigation. :P I also remind you, fellow citizens, that a vote for the Jovial Contrarian is a vote for the bright future of Fallen London. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Monsieur%20Dummour
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TheSoullessOne Posts: 3 7/4/2016	scarlettbleustar wrote: beeawwb wrote: scarlettbleustar wrote: So my guess is: Campaigner follows a Persuasive route Fixer follows a Shadowy route Agitator follows a Dangerous route That seems right, right? edited by scarlettbleustar on 7/4/2016 That was my assumption. Now fingers crossed it pans out that way. Campaigners can also gain Convincing Rhetoric by investigations which is good for people with high watchful. I didn't pick Fixer but if each of them have two qualities that can be used (kind of like with the ambitions) then I reckon it's: Campaigner: Persausive and Watchful, Fixer: Shadowy and Watchful, Agitator: Dangerous and Shadowy The odd part with these combinations is getting a Dangerous item as a Fixer, which definitely does seem like a shadowyish occupation -- Open to suggestions.. You may or may not regret making them, however..
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John Moose Posts: 276 7/4/2016	I assume changing careers isn't possible? I'm moderately devastated at the poisoned pen being apparently beyond my reach, even if I use fate. Darn it.
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Blaine Davidson Posts: 388 7/4/2016	Despite the warning I still chose Fixer. It suits my character the best. Hell has become a problem lately though, and only one man will do what needs to be done about the Devils. -- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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beeawwb Posts: 18 7/4/2016	scarlettbleustar wrote: So my guess is: Campaigner follows a Persuasive route Fixer follows a Shadowy route Agitator follows a Dangerous route That seems right, right? edited by scarlettbleustar on 7/4/2016 That was my assumption. Now fingers crossed it pans out that way. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Beeawwb Soulless and proud.
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/4/2016	maleclypse wrote: How many points of casing do I need to get to get the investigation to close. I'm at 50+ points? Try going to the University. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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John Moose Posts: 276 7/4/2016	scarlettbleustar wrote: RandomWalker wrote: scarlettbleustar wrote: John Moose wrote: I assume changing careers isn't possible? I'm moderately devastated at the poisoned pen being apparently beyond my reach, even if I use fate. Darn it. Changing careers is possible, you're just required to give up half of your built up Election Career and you dont get a new free gift so you would need to buy the pen with fate. It is totally doable though. Also maleclypse, you require 30 to close the case. edited by scarlettbleustar on 7/4/2016 How do you change career? I don't see that option. Candidate, yes, career, no. I misread it would it be best for me to remove the comment I made? Or just apoligise profusely I don't see any need to apologise for trying to help, but maybe delete it so people don't get the wrong idea Thanks still! Maybe it'll be an option later, or, in the worst case, I'll just wait a year.
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scarlettbleustar Posts: 6 7/4/2016	Paflick wrote: scarlettbleustar wrote: John Moose wrote: I assume changing careers isn't possible? I'm moderately devastated at the poisoned pen being apparently beyond my reach, even if I use fate. Darn it. Changing careers is possible, you're just required to give up half of your built up Election Career and you dont get a new free gift so you would need to buy the pen with fate. It is totally doable though. That is to change your candidate, not your career. My apoligies, totally misread
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/4/2016	I am tremendously tickled that my RP candidate also has the Best Boots which I want for Seeking. This is great! -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Màiread Posts: 385 7/4/2016	I am so excited. Already delivered my first story on behalf of the delightful scarlet lady herself - I can't wait to see what little morsels of excitement await as I climb the political ladder. I'm going to have a heck of a time choosing between the boots and the nun, though. On the one hand, I already have lots of companions I never use, and they are best in slot...on the other, I have already reached SotC 21, and I COULD HAVE MY OWN BATTLE NUN. Head or heart, indeed. Oh yeah, vote Jenny! Edit: I think I found a bug; using a short story doesn't seem to consume it. I may have already had one and forgotten in my excitement, but I don't want to try again until I've written another just in case. Also, there's either a typo or a bug; compelling stories are accepted, not just thrilling. edited by Màiread on 7/4/2016 -- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake. Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) \| phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown \| Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady. I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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Teaspoon Posts: 866 7/4/2016	Besides, the Boots do have a point of Respectable. -- Truth lies at the bottom of a well. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	maleclypse wrote: While investigation seems to take less actions than usual, the flash lay takes just as many as always. Welcome to the slow ride fixers. Ditch the Fixers, get Seekers. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/4/2016	Appolonia wrote: Could someone explain to me how to convert a compelling short story, once written, into public attention? I wrote the story but baffled what to do next. An Election! London Must Decide! Exchange a Short-Story for Convincing Rhetoric and Public Attention You will have to click on the book icon and choose a short story to use. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Barnaby Posts: 20 7/4/2016	M. Cinder wrote: On the matter of support, Jenny actually seems to align more with my character's goals, and less prone to doing something horrible than the two. Doing something horrible is not necessarily a bad thing for everyone. Imagine the opportunities if Hell or the Calendar Council gets some breathing space. Heck, the latter is not even certainly horrible. -- Cleavers, guns, mandrakes and a gentlemanly hat. Sort of. Request tutelage in Hunting a Certain Quarry at your own risk.
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Appolonia Posts: 248 7/4/2016	Could someone explain to me how to convert a compelling short story, once written, into public attention? I wrote the story but baffled what to do next. EDIT: In case anyone else is confused by the same thing as me, you have to keep hitting the An Election! choice. It does not change its appearance to indicate you will now get a different result. But, you hit it once to select career, at least one to select candidate, and at least one to have access to the options related to advancing the career... edited by Appolonia on 7/4/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Appolonia%20VonRavenscroft
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Barnaby Posts: 20 7/4/2016	lady ciel wrote: Sinning Jenny is amazing. There is more to her than Scarlet Stockings. She will be a wonderful Mayor of London. She's the closest to the Masters out of the three, particularly to Mr Wines. I imagine she represents some sort of status quo here. -- Cleavers, guns, mandrakes and a gentlemanly hat. Sort of. Request tutelage in Hunting a Certain Quarry at your own risk.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/4/2016	Barnaby wrote: Kukapetal wrote: My character holds Mr. Veils responsible for the death of someone he loved. Ever thought about working with Calendar Council then? Give a shot to the Contrarian (please not literally) and maybe you'll even see the Masters fall. Have you actually investigated the Contrarian? -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/4/2016	Barnaby wrote: She's the closest to the Masters out of the three, particularly to Mr Wines. Not so much. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/4/2016	malthaussen wrote: @Amelia: Avoid the temptation! Play your character! -- Mal edited by malthaussen on 7/4/2016 I'll be a good Samaritan then and grind Watchful the normal way while playing to my character. Which is to say being a not so subtle ***hole. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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Gonen Posts: 817 7/5/2016	So, I'm advancing my carrier, at level 5 or 6 now. There's no new storylet, no new card that I've seen. Am I to just raise it to 20 and... wait for the end of the elections? That's it? nothing in between? Did I get it right? -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/5/2016	I haven't chosen a career path for the election, mostly because rp wise I'm not sure if my character fits the role of a fixer or an agitator. But game wise I wouldn't mind choosing Fixer despite how unbalanced it is now. I like a challenge every now and then and I'm still early in POSI that anything that would take or push Making Waves or anything connected with it, wouldn't effect me terribly. I'm just uncertain which to go with. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/5/2016	malthaussen wrote: I see references to "publishing a paper to support a candidate." Is that a card option? Seems like a fine way for me to abuse the power of the Press. -- Mal No you have to have your own newspaper and publish a special election edition. It takes 24 Salacious Copy and 24 Meritorious Copy and gives 1 Public Attention and a few other non-campaign items, including Favours in High Places that can be used if you need to write short stories. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/5/2016	@Lady Ciel: so it will become available upon time to Press running out? In which case, I better get cracking. Or not, since Fixer doesn't require Public Attention. (Which makes sense. The evil-doer shuns the Light) -- Mal edited by malthaussen on 7/5/2016 -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Vavakx Nonexus Posts: 892 7/5/2016	absimiliard wrote: Parelle wrote: May I suggest for those looking to write short stories to invest in an Ornate Typewriter? It's significantly easier skill check than some and has fewer negative consequences if you fail. Interesting. I'd been looking at the pages per action and not liking it. Even at a capped persuasive the odds on write frenziedly are just not so kind, and the 'alternate success' . . . bleh. Thanks for the tip, I would've never considered using the typewriter otherwise. (if you hadn't pointed out difficulty) One of the best things about it is the fact that using it has no chance to remove Potential on a successful writing spree. Whilst it's not as fast as frenzied scribbling, it's much safer in several ways. -- Amets Estibariz, the Moulting Eidolon: Cradled by a sun all their own. Blabbing, the Hobo Everyone Knows: The One Who Pulls The Strings. A Clarity In The Darkness. Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/5/2016	Màiread wrote: I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying how you guys have incorporated under used areas of existing content. I love that there are so many ways to get the festival qualities. I'm about to experience the polite invitation party for the first time; I haven't written a short story since my first month in FL, now I've done a bunch of them. I've never bothered to get a newspaper or do a flash lay before, but if I have time before the festival ends I'll be checking those out too. It feels invigorating, and a lot more fun than a bunch of new grinds. It also feels like the festival is much better integrated into London as a whole than, say, the Zee fruit festival. It's exciting! I would love to see some festival social actions, especially between opposing campaigns (this is my way of saying I want to prove Jenny's might by arm-wrestling the bishop's supporters). Although as one of the people who sort of broke Hallowmas last year I can see why you'd want to limit that. All in all I think this is a very fun addition to the FL calendar. Here here. I'm experiencing old content as new thanks to this too. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Luminen Walker Posts: 172 7/5/2016	Is it possible to advance your career more than once without spending fate? I haven't drawn the advancement card since I reached the second level and I haven't seen any cards related to it since. It may be bad luck but I'm unsure because I remember losing a quality after I did it the first time. -- 1 - Cpt. Martin Walker, a Paramount and Marvellous Dreamer. 2 - Ariana Crivelli, a silent and sagacious lady.
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 7/5/2016	@Lady Ciel: I was wondering that myself. The implication is that the Contrarian is barmy, but the text doesn't really support that. Curiouser and curiouser. -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/5/2016	IHNIWTR wrote: Estelle Knoht wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 The Captain is probably both; Reginald was always presented as a passionate but not particularly artistic man, so it follows that his poetry are the same. that doesn't make much sense though, considering the poem was dedicated to the sitter. The Bishop wouldn't write one for himself, surely? So either he is the sitter, and he lost the poet, or he is the poet and he lost the sitter. Considering the name of the storylet, I would imagine that The Bishop is the poet, and the captain is one of the many soldiers lost to Hell's clutches. The words of the Reformist Devil make much more sense in that case as well, I think. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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IHNIWTR Posts: 346 7/5/2016	Angus Turner wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: Estelle Knoht wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 The Captain is probably both; Reginald was always presented as a passionate but not particularly artistic man, so it follows that his poetry are the same. that doesn't make much sense though, considering the poem was dedicated to the sitter. The Bishop wouldn't write one for himself, surely? So either he is the sitter, and he lost the poet, or he is the poet and he lost the sitter. Considering the name of the storylet, I would imagine that The Bishop is the poet, and the captain is one of the many soldiers lost to Hell's clutches. The words of the Reformist Devil make much more sense in that case as well, I think. But then why would the devil have it, and say "this is what he left behind"? the name of the storylette is even "portrait of the damned", which could mean it is either a portrait depicting a damned man, or a portrait belonging to a damned man. I think it would make much more sense that the sitter for the portrait was the Bishop, and the person who wrote the poem and owned the portrait was one of his soldiers that was left behind in hell. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daniel%20Vaise
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Angus Turner Posts: 72 7/5/2016	IHNIWTR wrote: Angus Turner wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: Estelle Knoht wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 The Captain is probably both; Reginald was always presented as a passionate but not particularly artistic man, so it follows that his poetry are the same. that doesn't make much sense though, considering the poem was dedicated to the sitter. The Bishop wouldn't write one for himself, surely? So either he is the sitter, and he lost the poet, or he is the poet and he lost the sitter. Considering the name of the storylet, I would imagine that The Bishop is the poet, and the captain is one of the many soldiers lost to Hell's clutches. The words of the Reformist Devil make much more sense in that case as well, I think. But then why would the devil have it, and say "this is what he left behind"? the name of the storylette is even "portrait of the damned", which could mean it is either a portrait depicting a damned man, or a portrait belonging to a damned man. I think it would make much more sense that the sitter for the portrait was the Bishop, and the person who wrote the poem and owned the portrait was one of his soldiers that was left behind in hell. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 And then ask "where is that poet now?" as a rhetorical question, which he knows the answer to is "in hell"? It seems an odd thing for him to say. It makes much more sense to me that the man in the portrait is "what he left behind" in hell, and when he asks "where is that poet now?" he means it in the sense of 'what happened to that poet'. And it would make sense for the devil to have the painting in either case, since both the poet and the captain probably participated in the '68 campaign. Though I agree that it's pretty ambiguous, probably on purpose. -- The Philanthropic Scholar.
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plasmid Posts: 21 7/5/2016	Passionario wrote: Vote for Jenny, make the devils pay (for being strangled with red stockings). and what would that do? make them feel warm and fuzzy on the inside? as if what we need is to raise the devils' temperatures. -- Key P miskatonic- an persuasive, watchful and dangerous individual of mysterious gender, with a divine amount of serpents following him: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Key~P~Miskatonic~ bells_book- letal and sinister gentleman with a love of music http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bells_book
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/5/2016	plasmid wrote: Passionario wrote: Vote for Jenny, make the devils pay (for being strangled with red stockings). and what would that do? make them feel warm and fuzzy on the inside? as if what we need is to raise the devils' temperatures. better that they feel it inside, rather than outside- besides, given their natures [as six-legged creatures of a certain unusual species for sentients, with the aspect of fire], they're warm and fuzzy on the inside anyways. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/5/2016	Little annoyed by the heavy reliance on fate . . . I don't mind fate for EF stories, new/exclusive items, or even to change a person's mind, but . . . charging fate to advance a storyline - particularly on a festival - seems a bit irksome. I'm relying heavily on the RNG to advance my career, while someone with Fate could breeze through, and it seems a bit harsh for a game that promises not to gear things primarily to paying-members, with a sort of equality. Don't get me wrong; loving the festival . . . interesting mechanics, great story, but just a bit fed up with having to waste actions and do flash-lays while other people can get ahead just by having real-life cash.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/5/2016	The array of new items to buy with Fate (except one freebie) is somewhat reminiscent of the Feast of the Exceptional Rose. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/5/2016	There will be another card that will allow you to advance again. RNG holds you at its mercy, though, unless you cheat by burning Fate to summon the card -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/5/2016	Actually, you can draw it befor eyou choose, Estelle. I did. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	Mordaine Barimen wrote: Actually, you can draw it befor eyou choose, Estelle. I did. The tutorial one is unlocked by the "Learning about the Election" quality, which isn't granted until you pick a career. Like I said, there's a second one that can be drawn without having joined the election. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/5/2016	Oddly, I had both before choosing. That might have been a bug since fixed, though. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Mikarissa Posts: 60 7/4/2016	Kittenpox wrote: One (short) nap later... :-) There's an opportunity card called Campaign Resources which lets you trade in a Cellar of Wine for Dirty Secrets, 750 Rostygold and a Criminals Favour for Dirty Secrets, 750 bottles of 1879 and Docks favour for Public Attention, and 750 Silk Scraps and Tomb Colonists favour for Convincing Rhetoric. Mikarissa wrote: Mikarissa wrote: So, I got annoyed by that one persistent card prompting me to advance my career and opted not to see it again, thinking I could advance just as easily from the pinned storylet. What I didn't realize is that the necessary option is fate-locked. I would love to take part in the election and help Jenny, but I don't really have much Fate to spare, certainly not 2020 that I would apparently need to get to the end. Does anyone have any helpful advice? Is there a way to revert my unfortunate decision, of have I basically locked myself out of this election for good? Aaaand I have just drawn the card again Thank you, whomever was responsible. I am most grateful. There are actually two cards - "Advance your Career" and "Advancing your Election Career". The latter requires that you have 'Learning about the Election' at exactly 1, which is the one you chose not to re-draw. I suspect you've just drawn the former of the two. :-) edited by Kittenpox on 7/4/2016* Oh, I see. The system is a bit confusing. Well, in any case, I'm just relieved I haven't accidentally locked myself out of the election.
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beeawwb Posts: 18 7/5/2016	Apologies if this has already been asked, but it seems that we can change which candidate we support at any time, but we're unable to change what profession we choose once initially set? Is that right, or are there opportunities to change what job we have? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Beeawwb Soulless and proud.
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	IHNIWTR wrote: regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 The Captain is probably both; Reginald was always presented as a passionate but not particularly artistic man, so it follows that his poetry are the same. -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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IHNIWTR Posts: 346 7/5/2016	Estelle Knoht wrote: IHNIWTR wrote: regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 The Captain is probably both; Reginald was always presented as a passionate but not particularly artistic man, so it follows that his poetry are the same. that doesn't make much sense though, considering the poem was dedicated to the sitter. The Bishop wouldn't write one for himself, surely? So either he is the sitter, and he lost the poet, or he is the poet and he lost the sitter. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daniel%20Vaise
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/5/2016	IHNIWTR wrote: that doesn't make much sense though, considering the poem was dedicated to the sitter. The Bishop wouldn't write one for himself, surely? So either he is the sitter, and he lost the poet, or he is the poet and he lost the sitter. Uh.... oh..... erm...... Londoners are decadent and narcissistic? (I can't read, sorry) -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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IHNIWTR Posts: 346 7/5/2016	regarding the Portrait of the Damned option from the Dirty Secret flash lay, I'm confused: is the mustached captain implied to be the Bishop, or is he the poet? The text isn't quite clear. edited by IHNIWTR on 7/5/2016 -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daniel%20Vaise
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 7/6/2016	Probably this will be lost, but here's some info regarding farming materials for writers (Campaigners): Romantic Notion: Doing the decent thing, get 500 honey and convert them to RN. About 9.55/AP Tale of Terror!!: Steal Tales of Terror from a noted author. Gang and 100% success yields ~2.53/AP Touching Love Story: A walk in the villa gardens in Polythreme. ~0.833/AP Touching Love Story: Heists which may get you ~0.57/AP If you're thinking about gambling at a lower success rate I advice NOT TO do so. Did the math and the AP difference is very small to take the risk. With a typewriter, it costs about the same do get a compelling story. This is because you'll lose the AP required to start a story and get the manuscript pages if you fail. If you have the materials or not, if you use materials up to their limit, if you have high end materials pilled up and use them. In all of these cases AP difference rages from 0 to 3; sometimes higher risks cost more AP. Mathematically, but bear in mind that RNG may curse you big times! edited by Skinnyman on 7/6/2016 -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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winrarphile Posts: 34 7/6/2016	Oh my, my infinite piles of blackmail material, and favours finally come into play. I'm already up to level 9, but I have a feeling somebody's already hit the cap. -- Quiller June, the Cheery Crooked-Cross
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Amelia Syrus Posts: 626 7/6/2016	I don't know if this has been a bug or not. But has anyone else had trouble ending a Flash Lay after getting 75 progress in it? It seems like twice now I've had to hit 100. It's either that or my luck is incredibly crudtastic in getting a card to end a Flash Lay. -- Amelia Syrus: A Drunken Thief For Hire.
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Hazel Posts: 69 7/5/2016	I am beginning to be almost as apathetic about this election as I would about a real one. I have a newspaper and I love doing polite invitations, but alas they provide me no benefit this season. It may be time for me to take a short break. Hopefully once all's said and done, I will get to invite the fortunate winner to speak for my salon (or some similar social occasion). [My alt declared for Jenny for RP reasons, but I only wanted to take advantage of the free gift. Naturally, I won't be campaigning with two separate accounts, that's hardly fair.] -- "I can walk in the Mirror-Marches at the edge of dreams as easily as I might promenade in Tyrant's Gardens." Skymaw & Belle Dame
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/5/2016	Spht wrote: Màiread wrote: I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying how you guys have incorporated under used areas of existing content. I love that there are so many ways to get the festival qualities. I'm about to experience the polite invitation party for the first time; I haven't written a short story since my first month in FL, now I've done a bunch of them. I've never bothered to get a newspaper or do a flash lay before, but if I have time before the festival ends I'll be checking those out too. It feels invigorating, and a lot more fun than a bunch of new grinds. It also feels like the festival is much better integrated into London as a whole than, say, the Zee fruit festival. It's exciting! A word of caution, you may find the newspaper payout underwhelming, especially if you don't already have a newspaper or aren't planning to for other reasons (I had just set my first one up, for other reasons when things went live, not a terrible overall payout, but, you still have to run the presses and that's expensive). In general, I agree 'tho, I'm back to parties I had ignored for a long time and writing and so forth. You might want to keep going to parties after this is over- rubbery renown 25 offers the best-in-slot, save profession gear and [seasonal fate-locked], for persuasive companions, and if you have flute street, it offers the best in slot save professions when it comes to weapons. Parties have a deck of ~8 cards, and one of them reliably provides a favor at one point, and has a 50% chance at another. (it's also a really good way to expensively raise hell connections.) -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Spht Posts: 11 7/5/2016	Màiread wrote: I have to say, I'm REALLY enjoying how you guys have incorporated under used areas of existing content. I love that there are so many ways to get the festival qualities. I'm about to experience the polite invitation party for the first time; I haven't written a short story since my first month in FL, now I've done a bunch of them. I've never bothered to get a newspaper or do a flash lay before, but if I have time before the festival ends I'll be checking those out too. It feels invigorating, and a lot more fun than a bunch of new grinds. It also feels like the festival is much better integrated into London as a whole than, say, the Zee fruit festival. It's exciting! A word of caution, you may find the newspaper payout underwhelming, especially if you don't already have a newspaper or aren't planning to for other reasons (I had just set my first one up, for other reasons when things went live, not a terrible overall payout, but, you still have to run the presses and that's expensive). In general, I agree 'tho, I'm back to parties I had ignored for a long time and writing and so forth.
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Mr Sables Posts: 597 7/5/2016	Gonen wrote: Hello, Knowing FBG, being here over a year, read forum topics from 7 years ago to this day, never have I seen an aggressive Fate selling technique from them. Fate options are clearly described on each Fate storylet so you'll know what you're buying (as opposed to sometimes vague non-Fate options). Every festival or event can always be explored to the max without using Fate. Those are kept for bonus lore/equipment or for rushing things for the impatient ones. Never to accomplish a target. This event, I am sure, is no different. We have 2 weeks and only 2 days gone. I can bet my own left hand that FBG intends to let anyone with descent stats to max this event without Fate. This event is free to play with a truly unnecessary Fate option to speed things up. If you look at the last Feast of the Rose, when the event was about to close, and people complained on forum that the RNG is awful, FBG took notice and made the relevant storylet a fixed storylet for the last days. That's the vibes I ALWAYS got from FBG. Never to push Fate option, never force players to Fate or else mission will be impossible. This is a new event. They are monitoring our feedback closely and tweek things as it goes. Truly believe that all shall be well. I didn't mean to imply this was intentional . . . . . . although, I admit, at times I fear the game sometimes may be headed in that direction (not for any evil conspiracy theories, but more in terms that businesses need to survive and rely on profit, but that's a whole other story and FBG have constantly reassured us that's not the case). I have no doubts the FBG team are highly ethical and good people (I remember Alexis commenting on this a long time back, so I wouldn't want to cause offence again by claiming otherwise). That being said, it's still an imbalance and still favours fate players. I do remember the Feast; I agree with you that it's something that may be tweaked later on, but that just makes me wonder why they didn't go along the Feast route from the start . . . make it a pinned option, much like the fate option. I imagine it was intended like you said - so people can go a bit quicker, like with action refreshes and deck refreshes. The problem for me is that refreshes usually only affect the individual player, whereas this campaign is more about multi-player gaming . . . we're all working with each other and against each other for a candidate, so these paid-for refreshes give some candidates (and sides) a better chance. Yes, the game's free. Yes, you can still progress. The problem is that you can progress a lot faster and a lot easier with fate, which puts other players at a disadvantage, because of the festival's design being about competition (as opposed to getting a tattoo, or hunting at zee, etc.). I can understand other people may not agree with me, but it does irk me when I'm stuck waiting all day to progress and Joe Bloggs can pay 100 fate and progress for what - for some - may be a week's worth of progress due to the RNG hating a particular player. Would it usually matter? No. It matters, though, because we're essentially competing.
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Dedivax Posts: 16 7/5/2016	Happy to hear that we Fixers will be able to use Public Attention; I've managed to reach career 7 by playing normally (I'm excluding a very generous gift I received) so I don't feel like I'm getting shafted, but one thing I'm somewhat disappointed about is that for now I have next to no reason to publish an election newspaper, even though I figured manipulating the public opinion (i.e. getting convincing rhetoric) would be right up a Fixer's alley. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Dedivax
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SarahTheEntwife Posts: 50 7/5/2016	The RNG gods really do not love me today. Only 2 election cards so far and I've been refreshing them almost as fast as they're generated. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Strel Retired zee-captain turned scholar. Open to social interactions of various sorts. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Winona~Tintenfisch Winona Tintenfisch, aspiring street urchin. Would definitely be up for some fisticuffs or loitering.
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/5/2016	SarahTheEntwife wrote: The RNG gods really do not love me today. Only 2 election cards so far and I've been refreshing them almost as fast as they're generated. Same here. I've started turning cards at the Forgotten Quarter, or Lodgings. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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An Individual Posts: 589 7/6/2016	Just figured I'd warn you guys that writing an Electoral Newspaper requires 24 Salacious Copy and 24 Meritorious Copy. I just produced a very Meritorious edition that failed to garner public attention. -- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/6/2016	I'm about to do the same as Ben. I don't particularly want to be anything other than a Fixer, but I'll admit I do want those boots, and 3/4 of my levels is a price well worth paying. (I think the FATE is probably just as well worth paying as well, but that is a personal decision.) -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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Vexpont Posts: 137 7/6/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Skinnyman wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: One design flaw I’ve just experienced. If you accidentally click “change profession” or “change candidate” there’s no undo feature asking you “are you sure?” and giving you the opportunity to back out in case you make a mistake or have second thoughts. Did the same, but this thread is to crowded with information. Sorry to see this happening! It's good to catch these problems early. Should I email Failbetter too? I hesitate because this is not actually a bug, just a design problem caused by an overcrowded interface. I would. It doesn't seem likely that it's been deliberately made a candidate/career-jettisoning autofire. Like a lot of folk, I clicked on 'Change Candidate' mostly out of curiosity, to see if the Contrarian would do anything to keep me in the fold. I suppose it would be consistent for him just to shrug and let any wavering supporters go. But the other two would surely try something. Also like a lot of people, I'm tempted to switch for fancy footwear, especially as I lack all notability and am only playing for story, and also picked Fixer (in the glorious tradition of party supporters everywhere, I'll die before I admit this was rash). But I fear that if I sold out my bandaged colleague for a fine pair of boots, his response would be even drier than usual. -- Dangerous to my enemies; loyal to my friends. Not too handy at telling the difference. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Vexpont
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dov Posts: 2580 7/6/2016	I just switched from Campaigner to Fixer and my professional level only halved after I chose Fixer (i.e. it as not reduced simply by clicking the 0-action storylet to change professions. ---- edited by dov on 7/6/2016 -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 7/6/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: One design flaw I’ve just experienced. If you accidentally click “change profession” or “change candidate” there’s no undo feature asking you “are you sure?” and giving you the opportunity to back out in case you make a mistake or have second thoughts. Did the same, but this thread is to crowded with information. Sorry to see this happening! -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/6/2016	Skinnyman wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: One design flaw I’ve just experienced. If you accidentally click “change profession” or “change candidate” there’s no undo feature asking you “are you sure?” and giving you the opportunity to back out in case you make a mistake or have second thoughts. Did the same, but this thread is to crowded with information. Sorry to see this happening! It's good to catch these problems early. Should I email Failbetter too? I hesitate because this is not actually a bug, just a design problem caused by an overcrowded interface. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/6/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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SaLRG Posts: 1 7/6/2016	'Learn about the Candidates' storylet appears to be infititely repeatable for 0 actions while giving greyfields/candle stubs/clues as reward. I don't think it works as intended.
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IHNIWTR Posts: 346 7/6/2016	has there been any rebalancing to fixers yet or merely an option to change from this career -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Daniel%20Vaise
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 7/6/2016	Professor Strix wrote: I just performed my 10th investigation in a row and I want to thank FBG for bringing them to this festival. I know that it doesn't necessarily catter to everyone and that I'm the crazy girl who loves the research islands in the zee, but hey, everyone has fun in their own way. I wholeheartedly agree. Investigations have been pretty great. :-D -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/6/2016	Thanks, whoever added in a way to change things. I prefer to do parties and stuff anyway, since I'm doing those for Rubbery favors anyway! -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 7/6/2016	Do you get to keep your candidate-specific companion if you switch candidates?
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Trilby Posts: 290 7/6/2016	Say, would it be possible to change who you support, but make it so that: While at first it can be done with relative ease, the deeper into the campaign you go, the more it can effect things like scandal and turncoat. With turncoat likely able to have a very big effect on your experience of the campaign. -- ___________________________ \|`````````````````````\| \|```````/^\``/^\```````\| \|`````,_/```\/```\_,````\| \|````^"""""""""""""""""""'^```\| \|__________________________\|
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Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575 7/6/2016	I'd love to see recycling of unused campaign supplies into useful ones. For example, I'm a campaigner and have no use whatsoever for Dirty Secrets. Something interesting would be to provide an option to trade in multiple Dirty Secrets for one of the items needed to advance your occupation. Unless they'll become of use later on, this could be really beneficial to those who have no need for unused voting items. The availability of needed supplies could be offset by making the opportunity an opportunity card, requiring multiple of the unused item in exchange for a single election item, and/or possibly a small cost in favours, connections, items, or echoes. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/6/2016 -- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft Available for any and all social actions.
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dov Posts: 2580 7/6/2016	Sir Joseph Marlen wrote: I'd love to see recycling of unused campaign supplies into useful ones. For example, I'm a campaigner and have no use whatsoever for Dirty Secrets. Something interesting would be to provide an option -whether this would be from an opportunity card or a permanent storylet is undecided- to trade in multiple Dirty Secrets for one of the items needed to advance your occupation. Unless they'll become of use later on, this could be really beneficial to those who have no need for unused voting items. Flyte has already commented on this. Expect more options in a few days... Flyte wrote: We'll be giving Fixers a way to exploit their surplus Public Attention when we implement campaign resource trade ins later in the week. (emphasis mine) -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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absimiliard Posts: 759 7/6/2016	pgamez: On the "An Election! London Must Decide!" storylet there are a number of options available. There you can start an investigation, a flash lay, or sell a story. Anne: I checked the Empress' Court just now. I didn't see any new storylets. Sorry. edited by absimiliard on 7/6/2016 -- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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pgamez Posts: 4 7/6/2016	THANK YOU I WAS JUST STUPID APPARENTLY MANY THANK
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Professor Strix Posts: 616 7/6/2016	The flash lay that is connected to the election starts in the silver storylet about the election. If you started there, it's fine. It will only have something to do with the election when you draw a certain obstacle or when you finish. Plus, don't waste classic short stories in this event, even if you change your profession. They are too valuable and don't change the prize you get when exchanging them. (Edit: oopsie, forget it, I just found the option for my Fixer - it was hidden because he doesn't have short stories) edited by Professor Strix on 7/6/2016 -- The Inescapable Professor, London's Most Academic Detective. Open to consultation from Mondays to Fridays, above the Silver Binding bookshop, Veilgarden. Half the payment in advance, half after closing the case. No refunds. "THIS SATURDAY, in MAHOGANY HALL, delight your eyes with the DARING FEATS of the DAPPER ESCAPIST. Gape at his CHARM and WIT and his CLEVER TRICKS OF ILLUSIONISM. No mirrors used." --------- Social actions welcomed. Will take menaces if not currently grinding that one stat. Send them and cross your fingers. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Professor%20Strix My alt loiters suspiciously if you want to: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Derek%20Davis
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/6/2016	Grenem wrote: Blaine Davidson wrote: I'm not sure why everyone is panicking over the Fixer class. I only did the Flash Lays to get the lore and received the rest of my Dirty Secrets from Opportunity Cards. The "disadvantages" of Fixers isn't so bad. Plus, I'm excited to see what I'll be able to use my accumulated Public Attention for. Well, it doesn't help that the only new ultimate gear is available to campaigners. (as the boots allow you to gain 2 more points watchful than that old best-in-slot from christmas, 3 more than a noob who choose a watchful mentor, and 5 more than someone who hasn't been around at christmas and choose a different mentor. all the other gifts, while frequently better than free gear, are crushed by some fate-locked best-in-slot.) For some people, this is something really awesome, something they'd pay fate for and being perma-locked out of it because they choose a different methodology stinks. I dunno about perma-locked. Just locked for a year under previous circumstances, as while I could see the companions changing I think the items will be sticking around. Your career won't persist beyond this year's election because then you wouldn't have to work to reach 20 next year, and they can't raise the cap by 20 each year because then people who come later will have to work harder to make up for it. It's just easier and more fair to reset everything at the end. That said, being barred from the boots for a year is only relatively better, and I'm glad people can change their electoral careers now. -- edited by Sara Hysaro on 7/6/2016 -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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winrarphile Posts: 34 7/6/2016	Sir Joseph Marlen wrote: DeserterKalak wrote: One thing I'd like people to consider, from an OOC mechanical perspective, is that if the post-election election card gives out resources, the Bishop is likely to dish out wine, the Contrarian will probably dish out revolutionary stuff, and Sinning Jenny will likely give romantic notions or something. I dunno about the rest of you, but I generally have more wine than I have "presumptuous little opportunity" card draws, and I need Touching Love Stories to farm Connected: The Masters and a bunch of other stuff. IC, Sinning Jenny is a badass feminist warrior nun who is fighting for We the People. I know some think the Contrarian is edgy and some think the Bishop is really actually going to give a "damn good thumping" to a race of technologically superior super-beings that view us the same way that we view small animals that get into our houses, but get on Team Hotness already. Oh damnit, I accidentally disliked this. Someone quick, correct my blunder! Your sins have been forever immortalized. -- Quiller June, the Cheery Crooked-Cross
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/6/2016	There are a few gaps. If anyone happens to have those levels, they should probably add them. (Don't look at me, I don't understand how to edit the wiki.) -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/12/2016	Sara Hysaro wrote: MidnightVoyager wrote: Is new text for the opp cards a thing? Someone mentioned it, and then nobody talked about it. And I just can't pull the dang cards. Maybe someone can make a topic for stuff like... I dunno, election mechanics updates and new changes and text and stuff. I would have thought the place for that would be this thread, but it's getting absolutely drowned in the arguments. edited by MidnightVoyager on 7/12/2016 For what it's worth I've played both the free option and the election option on two separate cards and noticed no new text on either of them. Thanks! Guess it was a false alarm. I can't pull any of those cards to save my life. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/12/2016	Sinnouk wrote: Does anyone have an echo of the Bishop and Contrarian campaign card after the update? Just drew Jenny's and noticed the new text. Thank you very much. I would be interested in the new text for all three. -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Pnakotic Posts: 266 7/13/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Pnakotic wrote: So, obligatory "fun with geography" question for Fallen London residents (and perhaps more particularly Sunless Sea explorers): What lies due East of the Wolfstack Docks? edited by Pnakotic on 7/13/2016 A lot of things, though it can vary as the Unterzee is given to periodic alterations. There's Abbey Rock (home of the SIsterhood), Gaiders Mourn (a pirate nest), the Isle of Cats (another pirates nest), the Khanate (London's imperial rival, also a pirate nest), the Empire of Hands, Irem (a very strange place), the Cleonate (yet another pirates nest), and Saviour's Rocks (a gigantic nest of Sorrow Spiders). My guess is she's giving the secrets to her Sisters or selling them to the Khaganians or the Catties. Abbey Rock is pretty much due East of Bugsby's Marsh, more South than West of Wolfstack. The Isle of Cats is very far to the South, almost to the Elder Continent. Irem is about as far North and East as you could go without performing some metaphysical adventures. -- J. Ward Dunn, Glassman Book of All Hours 9:99: Journey's end in lover's meeting. Progress is ascendancy.
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/13/2016	Theoretically, perhaps, but that would mean the end of the game, and in FBG have created this seasonal event as a stealth excuse to close down Fallen London, I'll eat my least-favourite hat. Would it still be considered 'seasonal' content if it's the last of its kind? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/13/2016	Pnakotic wrote: So, obligatory "fun with geography" question for Fallen London residents (and perhaps more particularly Sunless Sea explorers): What lies due East of the Wolfstack Docks? edited by Pnakotic on 7/13/2016 A lot of things, though it can vary as the Unterzee is given to periodic alterations. There's Abbey Rock (home of the SIsterhood), Gaiders Mourn (a pirate nest), the Isle of Cats (another pirates nest), the Khanate (London's imperial rival, also a pirate nest), the Empire of Hands, Irem (a very strange place), the Cleonate (yet another pirates nest), and Saviour's Rocks (a gigantic nest of Sorrow Spiders). My guess is she's giving the secrets to her Sisters or selling them to the Khaganians or the Catties. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Lieutenant Astros Posts: 12 7/13/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: I don't own a sombrero, but if I did, it would be pretty high on my hat rankings. My least-favourite hat is actually an old pork-pie that doesn't suit me - so at least it's shaped like food, I suppose? How will you prepare said hat?
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Barse Posts: 706 7/13/2016	readmore wrote: (This is my first post so I apologize if I'm doing it wrong.) I'm having trouble trying to exchange Short Stories for Convincing Rhetoric. I've done the Literary Amitions storylet in Veilgarden maybe two dozen times now and I keep getting the same few options, none of which result in me ending up with a Short Story or Convincing Rhetoric. Any advice? It would be more fun than plugging away at campaign investigations over and over. Is there some stat I need to improve or another story I need to finish first? I'm a fixer, if that is relevant. Thanks! You want to use the option labelled "The Writer's Desk" in Veilgarden, for which I think you need A Name Signed with a Flourish 3 - it's further down the storylet list than Literary Ambitions. -- The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/13/2016	readmore wrote: (This is my first post so I apologize if I'm doing it wrong.) I'm having trouble trying to exchange Short Stories for Convincing Rhetoric. I've done the Literary Amitions storylet in Veilgarden maybe two dozen times now and I keep getting the same few options, none of which result in me ending up with a Short Story or Convincing Rhetoric. Any advice? It would be more fun than plugging away at campaign investigations over and over. Is there some stat I need to improve or another story I need to finish first? I'm a fixer, if that is relevant. Thanks! Ah, that's the wrong storylet. You need to do The Writer's Desk: Begin a Work -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Mikarissa Posts: 60 7/13/2016	readmore wrote: (This is my first post so I apologize if I'm doing it wrong.) I'm having trouble trying to exchange Short Stories for Convincing Rhetoric. I've done the Literary Amitions storylet in Veilgarden maybe two dozen times now and I keep getting the same few options, none of which result in me ending up with a Short Story or Convincing Rhetoric. Any advice? It would be more fun than plugging away at campaign investigations over and over. Is there some stat I need to improve or another story I need to finish first? I'm a fixer, if that is relevant. Thanks! You have to use the storylet called "The writer's desk: begin a work" to create a Short Story. It requires that your "A name signed with flourish" quality is at lvl 3. Edit: whoops! Didn't see the question was already answered. edited by Mikarissa on 7/13/2016
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Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751 7/13/2016	an_ocelot wrote: . . . so . . . your signature is sarcastic, then? Wait, what? I thought I got all the temper tantrum bits out of my signature. But if you are referring to the earlier signature, yeah, I think I am a textbook example of what not to be. Edit: NVM, I thought I plucked that all out when I regretted my tantrums. I feel so powerless now. edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/13/2016 Edit edit: Wait no crap disregard that last line edited by Estelle Knoht on 7/13/2016 -- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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Hazel Posts: 69 7/13/2016	MrHarley wrote: What I am missing here is talk about why people had their characters pick the candidate they picked (rather than this... far too heated debate as if this was some kind of real ethical choice that affects real people? I mean, come on). But maybe I can find that in some other topic? As a matter of RP, by process of elimination: Skymaw is a poet and a spy, they play the Great Game because they find it thrilling and entertaining. Whatever change Jenny may seek to enact, it is unlikely to interfere with their many schemes and contradictory allegiances. They flirt with revolution (...and revolutionaries) but the Liberation of Night would not serve their interests at all. They also flirt with devils, so. Sinning Jenny: the flirt's candidate. And BD, well, she's doing Bag a Legend so she votes on an across-the-board anti-vake platform. Whatever one might say about Jenny and her professional relations with Mr Wines, she seems loyal to the Sisterhood's raison d'etre. So far. -- "I can walk in the Mirror-Marches at the edge of dreams as easily as I might promenade in Tyrant's Gardens." Skymaw & Belle Dame
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lady ciel Posts: 2548 7/13/2016	I chose Jenny at least partly because of the Sisterhood, my ambition is Bag-a-Legend. Also I like the idea of having a female mayor. I almost went with the Contrarian but I doubt even he knows what would happen if he became Mayor and things would probably change on a weekly or daily basis. I was also slightly worried about his revolutionary connections. I was never going to support the Bishop as I think it would be disastrous to attempt another invasion of Hell. -- ciel Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things. No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible. storynexus name - reveurciel
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Zoe DeGeest Posts: 104 7/13/2016	MrHarley wrote: What I am missing here is talk about why people had their characters pick the candidate they picked (rather than this... far too heated debate as if this was some kind of real ethical choice that affects real people? I mean, come on). But maybe I can find that in some other topic? Seize the future! Seize the topic! I picked Jenny in character because, well, Zoe is a peasant. -- Zoe DeGeest, your humble churchgoing grocer, now respectable.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/14/2016	PJ, that's probably how the resources will be removed, but it wouldn't matter if the storylets to turn them in close before that. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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PJ Posts: 210 7/14/2016	The Unusual Pails of So-Called Snow didn't actually melt until Time, the Healer came calling, so I definitely wouldn't expect the election resources to go poof at the stroke of midnight on the 18th. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Lieutenant Astros Posts: 12 7/14/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: Too young! FDR was 12 in 1894! Didn't know we were going with historical accuracy. Hmm, I got nothing in that regard. edited by Lieutenant Astros on 7/14/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/14/2016	I kind of do think our Contrarian had a bout with polio when younger, perhaps.
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Gonen Posts: 817 7/14/2016	Do we vote and cash our C and N? Or does it automatically count our C and N and assign it to our chosen candidate (the one we chose at the beginning/changed to during these event) at the end of election? -- The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness. The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 7/14/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook, yes, that's him, thanks! Sorry I got my wires crossed, don't know how that happened. -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/14/2016	No worries; lots of faces to remember in the Neath! -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 7/14/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: The Contrarian is a little more challenging to rule out, as we don't actually know a great deal about him. White, male, no accent specified, no apparent title of office, doesn't look older than his forties at most, uses a wheelchair, Aww, they changed his art? I feel pretty sure that when he was first introduced he had brown skin, glasses, and kind of a rounder friendly face. (You can tell I haven't been paying attention.) -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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Morkan Kassington Posts: 261 7/14/2016	an_ocelot wrote: Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: The Contrarian is a little more challenging to rule out, as we don't actually know a great deal about him. White, male, no accent specified, no apparent title of office, doesn't look older than his forties at most, uses a wheelchair, Aww, they changed his art? I feel pretty sure that when he was first introduced he had brown skin, glasses, and kind of a rounder friendly face. (You can tell I haven't been paying attention.) He wasn't. He was using the Melancholy Curate's portrait. -- Ladies of the Neath, here comes Morkan Kassington, the gem among gentlemen (He is actually a self-centered and foolish braggart, but he means no harm. Hit him up for social actions or dangerous lessons! Or just flirt.)
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372 7/14/2016	Not first in the election, very first, way back when; I remember noting how nice it was to see more brown people in the game (he gave me an Indian-subcontinent vibe). Who am I thinking of, then? -- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions! Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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suinicide Posts: 2409 7/14/2016	Currently almost completely under sedation, but im going with the bishop? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Brito Posts: 36 7/17/2016	Gillsing wrote: Yes, but when on the 18th July? 24 hours is a long time, filled with many cards and actions. At least the intended hour of day would be nice to know. And would always have been nice to know, for all the festivals. When it comes to festivals the dateline's usually 10am GMT isn't it? I am not 100% sure.
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dragonridingsorceress Posts: 622 7/17/2016	Do we know exactly when the election will end? I ask because I'd like to keep grinding up my Campaigner level until the last moment, but also want to cash in all the Dirty Secrets I've collected by accident before the trade-in storylet goes away. -- DragonRidingSorceress is an Author of good standing. Mostly good standing. She's happy to accept any social action except Photographer and Loitering, but requests warnings before duping/poisoning/etc. Seeker of Names is a... being with an obsession. They're willing to accept all invitations. One who seeks to know all that is and may be. One who dances in the silence of the void. One whose fantasies make the reality come alive.
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/17/2016	I think I will keep one of each just for the heck of it. Now that I no longer 'need' the candidate's cards, they're showing up so frequently anyway. It'll be easy enough to grab one each tonight before bed. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/17/2016	Henrique Brito wrote: Gillsing wrote: Yes, but when on the 18th July? 24 hours is a long time, filled with many cards and actions. At least the intended hour of day would be nice to know. And would always have been nice to know, for all the festivals. When it comes to festivals the dateline's usually 10am GMT isn't it? I am not 100% sure. I haven't recorded the exact times for the previous festivals, so I wouldn't know. But I guess it's always after they get to the office in the morning, and before they leave in the evening. So I suppose it's not really 24 hours, but 8 hours or so.
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Myrto Posts: 209 7/18/2016	This has been really fun! -- Myrto, a mysterious veteran spy who is only on their own side. Married to navchaa! Edith Alpha Doyle, social climber with grand ambitions; Correspondent who would be happy to assist you in whatever way she can. , teenage orphan who came to the Neath to pursue a career in crime; monster-hunter. Currently on the Seeking road.
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miss_all_sunday Posts: 18 7/18/2016	Kaigen wrote: Jenny's words to a supporter. I am so glad I kept grinding Fixer and notability for this lady. This was so lovely, and touching. -- Miss All Sunday, the Dreaming Gentlewoman
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Passionario Posts: 777 7/18/2016	And the fix is officially in. Boldly done, petals. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/18/2016	Sworn Statements, I believe. The rewards seem to have been the same for each candidate, scaled to one's career advancement. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Kaigen Posts: 530 7/18/2016	Jenny's words to a supporter. I also got Sworn Statements, a Favour in High Places, and a bunch of Journals of Infamy, so it does indeed look like the rewards are the same for each candidate. -- Just a simple doctor with a chess habit. Publisher of The Flit Dispatch. "One must remember that the impossible is, alas, always possible." -Jacques Derrida
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Asclepius Unbound Posts: 389 7/18/2016	Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote: I think it was more a lighthearted pun than a piece of deliberate political commentary. You are correct. -- Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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Conrad Baltar Posts: 42 7/18/2016	The announcement of who has triumphed is now available in game -- Conrad Baltar is open to all social invites when in London. A proud Feducci Campaigner. "Fair Play, Fair Game, Fair London." "Some may view what Feducci does as cheating and scheming. Others may view it as pragmatism or planning ahead and ensuring victory at any cost. That is a matter of perspective. And that matter of perspective is what draws the line between those of us willing to support him, and those of us who oppose him." To all Feducci supporters, please let me know (via private messaging or in the main Feducci thread) if you require any Wounds or Nightmares reduction, I'll do my best to assist you over the rest of the week. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Conrad%20Baltar
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/18/2016	Chris? Mr. Gardener? What would the text have been if the others had won?
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Saklad Posts: 528 7/18/2016	Um, wasn’t 0930 GMT over three hours ago? -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Hazel Posts: 69 7/18/2016	I am very looking forward to the results, although I agree with Sir Federick that the position is hardly likely to be a cough game-changer. I believe the Bishop may find himself glad not to have won (should this be the case). Winning and then discovering the position to be essentially powerless would likely injure him more than either of the others. -- "I can walk in the Mirror-Marches at the edge of dreams as easily as I might promenade in Tyrant's Gardens." Skymaw & Belle Dame
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/18/2016	Thank you, to all involved. Three cheers for our first election! -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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MaxOrient Posts: 3 7/18/2016	I've reached Agitator 20. Is there anymore progression to the story? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Max~Orient
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Shalinoth Posts: 493 7/18/2016	MaxOrient wrote: I've reached Agitator 20. Is there anymore progression to the story? All you can really do now is raise Notability to bolster that 20 Agitator in your candidate's favour. You could also keep turning in election items for goodies, but that's just grind after you've done each one once. -- Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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sweetandcool Posts: 4 7/6/2016	NinjaComedian wrote: Blaine Davidson wrote: I'm not sure why everyone is panicking over the Fixer class. I only did the Flash Lays to get the lore and received the rest of my Dirty Secrets from Opportunity Cards. The "disadvantages" of Fixers isn't so bad. Plus, I'm excited to see what I'll be able to use my accumulated Public Attention for. Well, it all comes down to if the RNG is kind enough to give you those cards, doesn't it? I've gotten all my Dirty Secrets - except maybe one - from Flash Lays because I think since Monday I've only drawn a card that gives them once. I've never even seen the Campaign Resources card yet. But I'm doing alright as a Fixer. Made it to level 9 already and about to get to 10, so I can't complain. The boots can wait until next year I guess - I'm not spending half my progress to swap for them now. And I'm looking forward to using up the Public Attention when I can trade that in for whatever it is I can trade it for later too. Glad to see that I'm not the only one who has had this problem. Coincidentally enough, I am also a level 9 fixer and have only drawn a card that gives Dirty Secrets once.
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Jolanda Swan Posts: 1784 7/7/2016	I am a Campaigner for Sinning Jenny - EF but no Fate expenditure on the elections. I am at level 10 and though I enjoy it, I wonder if I want to spend two weeks of only doing this particular storylet. Is there a cap on our careers? Does something different happen mid-elections as some suggested? Ah, the joys of pioneering. -- Lover of all things beautiful, secret admirer of ugly truths, fond of the Parabola Sun... and always delighted to role play. http://fallenlondon.com/profile/Jolanda%20Swan
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/7/2016	SmallFish wrote: Hello, fixer here for the Bishop of Southwark (A Vote to the Bishop is a Vote for a Less Sensible London!). I'm progressing nicely in my career using Dirty Secrets and Convincing Rhetorics, but what do I do with all these Public Attentions? Have I missed something? nope. new uses for the odd-one-out types may become availible in time, but that time is not today. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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RandomWalker Posts: 948 7/7/2016	Skinnyman wrote: Jolanda Swan wrote: I am a Campaigner for Sinning Jenny - EF but no Fate expenditure on the elections. I am at level 10 and though I enjoy it, I wonder if I want to spend two weeks of only doing this particular storylet. Is there a cap on our careers? Does something different happen mid-elections as some suggested? Ah, the joys of pioneering. The advancement card stop popping at level 20, but I sure some already reached that level. Still waiting for them shed some light on this matter! Anyone? I've only just reached 20, so I can't really comment beyond saying that I haven't noticed anything different. I'll keep pulling cards and see if anything turns up. I expect that there'll be a gap of activity until the mid-terms, at which point something may happen that will allow me to offload all this public attention.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/7/2016	Has anyone got the MW estimates for the campaign ball? I thin i'll probably see about setting up some of those, but anyone who has done it's estimates would be very nice to have. Also, i sounds like both public attention and convincing rhetoric are worth 10 echoes per instance, while public attention only gets 5, but also suspicion reduction and MW- i don't know if this is the fixer-only option or not, though. edited by Grenem on 7/7/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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genesis Posts: 924 7/7/2016	On Maneuvering another Fixer, I got 14 CP of MW one time and 11 CP another time. (plus Scandal/suspicion drop and 2 IU) -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/7/2016	My friend did the ball and MW went from 7 to 9, alongside gaining two Stolen Kisses, an Extraordinary Implication, and a Touching Love Story. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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MrBurnside Posts: 188 7/7/2016	Catherine Raymond wrote: Grenem wrote: absimiliard wrote: Snip Snip Whew! Apparently it's possible to work your career level up to 20 by the time of the election. And some of us (including my main) have Notability in double-digits. That's a goodly number of votes! I'll be eager to see who wins. I'm hoping that FBGs releases some of the data on this after the election. Not detailed analysis or hard data, just number of voters for each versus number of votes for each. That sort of thing. I don't know if FBGs has interns, but I wouldn't want them to spend more then a couple intern-hours on it.
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Gillsing Posts: 1203 7/7/2016	Grenem wrote: "At the end of the Election, your combined Election Career level and Notability will be counted towards whichever candidate you support!" I guess that rewording from "will go towards" answers my earlier question whether our Notability will be spent or not. As for candidates, there's really only one that has done anything for me. The Parlour of Virtue was a soothing oasis for both body and mind back when I was exploring the Forgotten Quarter, and Jenny has been very kind during every Feast of the Rose. So she deserves all the support I can be bothered to provide.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/9/2016	Optimatum wrote: It's not. Three election materials are worth 60 echoes; holding a ball gives maybe 10 echoes of items and nowhere near enough MW to make up for it. Using a Salon/Orphanage, stealing Tales of Terror!! and converting up, or side-converting T3 items are substantially better. Isn't it 30 echoes? IIRC, you get 4 of a 2.5 echo item per special item. still, yeah, they're not worth the trouble at the moment. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/9/2016	You are correct, it's 10 echoes per item. I confused myself clearly. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/9/2016	Optimatum wrote: You are correct, it's 10 echoes per item. I confused myself clearly. also, what's your opinion on the fixer option? is that worth bothering with, if you happen to be one? -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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PJ Posts: 210 7/9/2016	Ok, I've hit level 20 of fixerhood. Now what? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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Skinnyman Posts: 2133 7/8/2016	The Master wrote: No words from people who reached 20 in their career? This was quite short if that was it, but at least we won't grind stuff for the election for 10 more days. RandomWalker confirmed that he reached level 20, but didn't see anything new 20 hours ago. -- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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dov Posts: 2580 7/8/2016	Skinnyman wrote: As Estelle mentioned in the first topics of this thread, compelling is accepted as well. So 84 is 100% success rate and 50 to be unlocked. I need a few more AP and I'll come back with an update. Indeed, a Compelling story is enough, but you don't really need the Potential test to be 100%. Note that on failure you get a story which is two levels below what you aimed for. So all you need is enough Potential to try for an Exceptional Story (80), and try your luck. On success you'll get the Exceptional story; on failure - a Compelling one. -- Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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Bijak Posts: 1 7/8/2016	Skinnyman wrote: Reaching level 80 gives you a 40% chance to get a compelling instead vs 96%. This costs ~40 AP and 7 E using low level materials . It costs over 60 actions (8 writing frenziedly for 24 actions and then 38 of the +2 potential actions, could be a couple of actions lower given that a few of the writings don't lower potential by two) using low-level materials, way more than the investigation+flash lay which tends to take 25-35 while costing far fewer materials. You'd want to go exceptional here though as you'd still get a short story fit for the election even if you failed. Using the 2.5echo items will take ~26 actions (4 writing frenziedly, 14 item uses) and still be rather expensive while giving only a marginal decrease in the actions need to promote while also making you miss out on the election opportunity. The only way that would be significantly faster is using the 12.50 echo items or trade secrets. When fixers weren't at any sort of disadvantage here on grinding their levels except against the most endgame of characters it makes me wonder why only they get a special opportunity and campaigners/agitators don't...
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/8/2016	The election party has been buffed, i believe: it now gives 2 love stories, 2 kisses and an implication, and it took me from 12 to 14, meaning it must have been at least 15 cp and quite likely more, though no more than 40. EDIT: done again. took me from 14 to 15, and no further. must have been no more than 25 cp. edited by Grenem on 7/8/2016 -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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MidnightVoyager Posts: 858 7/8/2016	Perform a Flash Lay - learn campaign secrets This is a chance for skulduggery, an opportunity for chicanery. You might learn a rival campaign's secrets. Or you might investigate suspicions about your chosen campaign. This will take a significant number of actions to complete. It is prudent to have Shadowy, Persuasive, and Watchful at 25 or more. You will gain Dirty Secrets and Public Attention. Okay, it SAYS this, but I keep just getting secrets. Is there something specific I need to get for public attention instead?? edited by MidnightVoyager on 7/8/2016 -- Midnight Voyager - A blood-cousin to predators. Collector of beasts. Affably mad.
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/7/2016	Parelle wrote: Multiplication of Notablity wouldn't be quite fair for Non POSI or our friends with Obscurity. Well, obscurity is seeking, so you don't have to be fair to them, but yes, that's kinda my point. increasing rewards? sure, fine, whatever. it costs a small fortune to hit 15. outright multipliers- nope, no way, etc. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Optimatum Posts: 3666 7/7/2016	I've only written two short stories and I'm already at Campaigner 10. Looks like I'll have plenty of time to use the profitable options of the cards. -- Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome. Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi! PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/7/2016	Might I recommend sending a bug report email? That's a big bug. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/11/2016	Unifel wrote: Sara Hysaro wrote: We'll be getting the announcement sometime on the 4th, likely around noon FBG time. The fourth was the start of the event, so I assume that was a typo or something to that effect - I believe the update will come on the 11th, as the event was said to take two weeks and the update would be halfway through - which would be one week after Monday, the fourth. Whoops! Yes, I mean the 11th - a week exactly from the 4th. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/11/2016	Remember: Reginald for Mayor!
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sweetandcool Posts: 4 7/11/2016	I'm using heists to increase making waves to increase notability and the fixer perk to reduce suspicion after a heist (and of course to gain more making waves). Is there a better way to increase notability? Also, making and maintaining high levels of notability has got to be a pain. I'm curious, who has the most notability?
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 7/9/2016	The bold informative text says that the quality of the story does not affect the rewards. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/11/2016	Fixers are also the only Career that couldn't get both requires resources from a single source. That option was there for the resource we had to generate to advance, but had zero use for. You can always go grind whatever mix of resources you wanted, but I don't think Fixers are at an unfair advantage over others for it. (Especially since, as a Campaigner, you could get the best Watchful and tied for best BDR footwear in the game for free.) -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Saklad Posts: 528 7/11/2016	Skinnyman wrote: sweetandcool wrote: I'm using heists to increase making waves to increase notability and the fixer perk to reduce suspicion after a heist (and of course to gain more making waves). Is there a better way to increase notability? Also, making and maintaining high levels of notability has got to be a pain. I'm curious, who has the most notability? Snips from this thread: Oh, another useful one which I used is the Sardonic singer. Help her negotiate followed by An invitation to a rather exclusive soirée, if both challenges succeed, one can get 3 E and 3 MW for 2 AP. It does take some time to get her to level 9 and the Persuasive challenge is pretty high, but I found it useful. A rare success gets you to 5.5E and 10 MW for the same 2 AP. If one is interested in the Echoes yielded/required, at a farm rate of 1.7 EPA, this option offers 1.342 MW/AP, ToT conversion is at 0.9469 and the short stories suggested by Mizadil are at 0.68. The formula I used is: MW/AP w/E = MW/(AP*(1+(1-EPA/1.7))) Lodging cards, using the same formula offer ~1.66 MW/AP w/E and, of course, the Saloon/Orphanage options, but the MW increase isn't exact so can't give you the numbers. Considering the Wiki information is right you have the following for Orphanage using Look after your Orphanage: Graduation: 1.66 and rare 1.85 Reunite: 2.84 and alt 2.02 Conjurer: 1.53 Correspondent: 2.04 Midnighter: 3.52 All of these values represent the MW/AP taking into account the costs and AP required to gain the Es for them. ToT! conversion is about 1.61 MW/AP if you don't take the monetary part into account. I used this option as it offers the possibility to stop at an item and upgrade for the extra MW it offers. The Sardonic Music-Hall Singer is one of my favorite characters, and it helps that she has an Opportunity Card. They should really add cards for the other Acquaintances. -- Saklad5, a man of many talents
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Sandi Gummy Posts: 75 7/11/2016	If I am new, it doesn't matter who I vote for right? -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Julia~Jokes Hello all I am new xD You can play chess or do things with me ^^
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 7/8/2016	Did you use the options in the "An Election! London Must Decide!" story to begin the Flash Lay ("Perform a Flash Lay - learn campaign secrets") and turn in the story ("Exchange a Short Story for Convincing Rhetoric and Public Attention")? -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Odexios Posts: 35 7/12/2016	JovialParadox wrote: I'm sorry for distracting from this wonderful debate on the merits of each candidate, but I have a bit of a question. Last time I went to hand in my short story for public attention, it let me hand in any of them as long as they were above thrilling. Now it seems it only lets me hand in up to Exceptional. Is there anything I can do with what seems to be a worthless Masterful short story now? I asked the same thing yesterday, with not much success; as far as I can see, all you can do now with it is sell it, or keep it and use it in other storylets -- Odexios - A gentleman of a curious nature and a particular interest in souls. 78695 and counting! fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Odexios
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 7/12/2016	MIdnightVoyager, all the campaign Investigations and Flash Lay results give new text. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Kylestien Posts: 749 7/12/2016	Chris Gardiner wrote: That is distressing. And mysterious! I wonder what *could* have happened to the vast store of election resources that you accrued by exploiting a bug on the mobile app 426 consecutive times? But fear not! Failbetter will not sleep until we've got to the bottom of this. I'll have a dig down the back of the sofa. (For serious, don't do this. Fixing serial exploitation of bugs takes up time we could have spent making new content) #SunBurn (Because, you know, Gardiner sort of looks like Gardener, and the sun shines on gardens, and the firey judement of the creators has laided the smackdown I'm gonna stop now) -- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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Schmidt Posts: 114 7/12/2016	Chris Gardiner wrote: Schmidt wrote: I woke this morning to find all of my stockpiled convincing rhetoric and public attention had evaporated, leaving me with nothing. Previously, I had more than enough to finish my campaign grind. But now nothing. Also, my stash of over 4,000 echoes evaporated as well, and even if I sell things, I gain no cash. Needless to say, this is distressing and a report has been sent. That is distressing. And mysterious! I wonder what *could* have happened to the vast store of election resources that you accrued by exploiting a bug on the mobile app 426 consecutive times? But fear not! Failbetter will not sleep until we've got to the bottom of this. I'll have a dig down the back of the sofa. (For serious, don't do this. Fixing serial exploitation of bugs takes up time we could have spent making new content) THANK YOU Chris. I had suspected as much. I would have ceased if asked. I even told you about the issue. If I am presented with a profitable action then I intend to take it. I don't feel the sarcasm was necessary. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Atticus%20Schmidt I'll accept any actions, except loitering and Affluent Photographer (will accept dupes).
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Johny Topside wrote: Grenem wrote: Fadewalker wrote: The best mayor may or may not be the best person. Of the three evils choose the least, if they are that evil. Corruption, Masters' ties and the Abbey Rock connection might not bring as much uncertainty as LoN and another '68. For Contrarian, will February's infection be long-lasting if the Contrarian come into power? And the Bishop, he is a man of his word, admirable and formidable. I may need a little more time to make the final decision. Well, I vote for the Contrarian, but I will not vote for February. (Can anyone tell me how much is St. Dunstan involved in illegal soul trade, except that vicar?) In order- the contrarian will fight. he may lose, but he will fight. They will not find him easy to force to the side of the revolution. I do not believe they will actually find him to be any easier to bend to the cause of liberation than the others, but they may try harder. However, the pressure he's under makes me falter in my support- before, i truly believed in him, but now- i still think he'll try to do what's best, but the liberation will try to force him to bend. He won't, but constant conflict with the revolution may make him what everyone else feared he would be- weak and ineffectual. Dunstan is only known for that one vicar, but that says very little about it, and we've only seen it mentioned as a soul-trader, AFAIK, The more unpleasant truth is that he's planning on "soulless shaming". We are a progressive nation, and while this is better than jenny's methodically plotted blackmail for next year, it's still nasty and cruel. If they are damned, let them be, don't call society upon their heads. and if souls are merely star-spores, calling down judgement for ripping out a vile fungus is unfair. edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 Such a list seems pretty useful when you've realized one of your churches is a front for spirifage. Simply making note on who has a soul and who doesn't is a pretty useful (and nonthreatening) thing. Nowhere did I detect shaming involved. Why shouldn't we have a list like that, especially when, despite the soul trade being legal, we still have leagues of unlicensed folks gulling the poor out of their souls. All the better to track down illegal spirifage. Also, if we were truly a progressive nation, it wouldn't affect anyone if we knew they were missing a soul, it wouldn't/shouldn't affect their social standing. Sure, and had i heard it from any source that didn't inflate the value of the soul I wouldn't doubt their intentions for a moment. But it's not a record of legally sold souls, like you claim- it's a record of the soulless, with no other details. A church publishing that would never be simply for the sake of informing the public, and it was not their information to out. not the melancholy curate, not the regretful soldier, not any who had their souls taken by force. To have their soullessness attested by the church with little or no context is... i lack a better word than "Celestial". Like it's celestial to devour your young, like it's celestial to torment those weaker than yourself, and so on. many soulless are ashamed, or would be shunned for it, and it is not the church's rights to make the information public! Not until the poor who have their souls taken are no longer seen as damned, and the myth of "souls" is as dead as any true virtue is among the church's members! Publishing it would do no good for tracking down illegal spirifrage, and would likely do little good for revealing the corruption in the same church that's supplying these reports. So the most likely scenario is, like i said, deliberate shaming. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Curious Foreigner Posts: 210 7/11/2016	Why would the Bishop want to publish who is soulless? Simple: to reveal just how far the infernal influence has infiltrated our fair city. Knowing one in ten lost their soul is but a statistic; Seeing those unfortunate eleven percent will make it real, and maybe there'll finally be something done to stop the vile practice of spirifage, and perhaps someday the soul trade as a whole. -- Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.) The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/11/2016	Anne Auclair wrote: Schmidt wrote: Am I the only one who feels this election was rigged from the start? I get that each candidate has secrets or problems or unsavory elements within either their campaign or person. I think that's great. HOWEVER I started with the Bishop. Atticus is a church man (after a sort) and initially held there... But was swayed to vote Contrarian. A moderate candidate in a city of extremes. Sure, he debates with abandon, but I like that about the guy. New secrets have arisen about the campaigns, and both Jenny and Southwark have issues that remain in the vein of their campaign. They still represent what they have always represented (though for the life of me I don't know Jenny's game. I don't understand the rampant Jenny love haha). The Contrarian, on the other hand, has just had his campaign publicly (for players) neutered. A vote for te Contrarian is NOT a vote for the Contrarian. It is a vote for radicalism now. Honestly I feel like FBG took a look at the (distant) runner up and declared "NOPE. HIS CAMPAIGN IS OVER. WANNA VOTE FOR LoN instead?" Jenny didn't need anymore help here... sigh And btw I don't intend to rile up folks. Just venting, I suppose. Actually my impression is that the first week's support determined the events of the second week. Jenny's campaign led so it is now flush with cash and support and preparing to reward its supporters and punish its enemies! The Bishop is having financial difficulties, but still keeping things together. The Contrarian's campaign wilted and suffered a hostile takeover. edited by Anne Auclair on 7/11/2016 You know, the Contrarian may be the only man who can really tangle with February (also the true supporters of the Contrarian are upstairs trying to insulate themselves from the wash of LoN supporters Feb brought in, its not like they rolled over and died). I just imagine February trying to muscle him over and he's just laughing and giving her advice on better technique. Side Note: Why was the Manager there in the first place? Why did he leave? It's not like the CC could kill him or anything -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/11/2016	Really, anything's fine as long as it's not the corrupt darling.
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/12/2016	Dubinee Finnat wrote: It isn't complicated! Vote on the issues, not on personal character. The Bishop cares only about his fight with Hell and the devils, condemning the soul trade and those who have sold their souls. He doesn't care one bit about feeding the hungry and housing the homeless, which is what leads many to sell their souls in the first place. He would be an authoritarian theocrat, unkind and unjust. The Contrarian is embroiled in a political struggle between the Bazaar and the Revolution, trying to find a Third Way between those two, to the exclusion of all else. That is no doubt very important, but what happens to the people while the major players are fighting it out for their utopian or dystopian grand visions? There is only one candidate who is in it for the people. Prostitutes, urchins, workers, beggars, thieves, addicts, merchants, spivs: these are our people. That's where our priorities should lie, not in the ideological debates of the upper classes. So what if she uses blackmail and extortion to drive her campaign? I say, 'Good!' I applaud her ruthlessness. It's not as if she's blackmailing or extorting the poor, is it? I think it's wonderful for the toffs to be exploited for a change, instead of doing the exploiting! 'Vote Jenny, Or You're A Git!' She is starting some sort of work force unit, swell, the first instance of her actually making good on her claims; while in the wee hours of the morning she's still around hustling secrets. This isn't just a 'rich are evil (though in FL the sometimes are actually evil), lets help the poor' campaign, Jenny's a smart girl, there's a secret agenda here. Also, her ruthlessness is what'll get you poisoned next feast by your favorite would-be mayor. Ruthlessness is what makes February least favorite month. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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Anne Auclair Posts: 2215 7/11/2016	Grenem wrote: Anne Auclair wrote: Rereading the Contrarian's flash lay and it doesn't seem so much a hostile takeover as a turnover directed from the top. Perhaps the Contrarian saw he was losing and invited Feb and company to come and give it the old college try. Really? Really? I've seen dead skulls with better vision, and then i traded them for a ray-drenched cinder! This sounds like a willing turnover?: "Those staff trusted by the Contrarian have taken over the upper floors. They are refusing access to a horde of fresh - and especially fervent - supporters." This sounds like the contrarian is doing it willingly?: "The Contrarian will come to see the error of his present folly." edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 Often campaigns have tensions between different sections of the staff and officers will boast about influence they do not in fact possess. The fact that the old staff are still around but Feb is the campaign manager indicates that the change was ordered from the top. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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Fincar Posts: 41 7/11/2016	I like the update if not the fact that Jenny is on the lead. Jenny being corrupt is well... not a surprise given her willinges to blackmail others. The Bishop is a sticking to his principles wich puts a smile on my face. Also the fact that he is planing to publish the list of souless individuals means he is bit more cunnin than I gave him credit for. The Contrarian is in a dificult spot. The council is trying to strong arm him to serve their interests, so of course he starts founding the oposition (nobody likes being forced into anything). -- A person of some little importance... really I am open to most forms of social interactions. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Fincar
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: Jenny's rather corrupt. Southwark meanwhile seems to have furiously rejected the devil's funding once he found out. He sticks to his principles. And the contrarian has the full force of the revolution trying to get him to turn loyal, though febuary's brute-force attempt is more likely to make him resent them than anything. Compared to January's light touch, Febuary's brute-force tactics seem to be purest folly. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335 7/11/2016	The Bishop is the only one who's sticking to fidelity and his principles. He's furiously rejected infernal donators and their funding now. He's a man of honor. Meanwhile the poor contrarian has started to be coerced by the more ruthless elements of the Calendar. edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 7/11/2016
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: The Bishop is the only one who's sticking to fidelity and his principles. He's furiously rejected infernal donators and their funding now. He's a man of honor. Meanwhile the poor contrarian has started to be coerced by the more ruthless elements of the Calendar. edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 7/11/2016 And has reacted by funneling their money straight to the other parties. Great. Wonderful. I could just swap support to Jenny and call it a day, given the position he's in. @Ixc They already have. it's mrs. poison and scandal herself. Next feast, I'll need to get my own poisoned lipstick, if no one else will remember her crimes.. lacre, i think, would do well. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Johny Topside Posts: 46 7/11/2016	Grenem wrote: Fadewalker wrote: The best mayor may or may not be the best person. Of the three evils choose the least, if they are that evil. Corruption, Masters' ties and the Abbey Rock connection might not bring as much uncertainty as LoN and another '68. For Contrarian, will February's infection be long-lasting if the Contrarian come into power? And the Bishop, he is a man of his word, admirable and formidable. I may need a little more time to make the final decision. Well, I vote for the Contrarian, but I will not vote for February. (Can anyone tell me how much is St. Dunstan involved in illegal soul trade, except that vicar?) In order- the contrarian will fight. he may lose, but he will fight. They will not find him easy to force to the side of the revolution. I do not believe they will actually find him to be any easier to bend to the cause of liberation than the others, but they may try harder. However, the pressure he's under makes me falter in my support- before, i truly believed in him, but now- i still think he'll try to do what's best, but the liberation will try to force him to bend. He won't, but constant conflict with the revolution may make him what everyone else feared he would be- weak and ineffectual. Dunstan is only known for that one vicar, but that says very little about it, and we've only seen it mentioned as a soul-trader, AFAIK, The more unpleasant truth is that he's planning on "soulless shaming". We are a progressive nation, and while this is better than jenny's methodically plotted blackmail for next year, it's still nasty and cruel. If they are damned, let them be, don't call society upon their heads. and if souls are merely star-spores, calling down judgement for ripping out a vile fungus is unfair. edited by Grenem on 7/11/2016 Such a list seems pretty useful when you've realized one of your churches is a front for spirifage. Simply making note on who has a soul and who doesn't is a pretty useful (and nonthreatening) thing. Nowhere did I detect shaming involved. Why shouldn't we have a list like that, especially when, despite the soul trade being legal, we still have leagues of unlicensed folks gulling the poor out of their souls. All the better to track down illegal spirifage. Also, if we were truly a progressive nation, it wouldn't affect anyone if we knew they were missing a soul, it wouldn't/shouldn't affect their social standing. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Johny~Topside
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MrHarley Posts: 6 7/11/2016	I wasn't even certain that I really wanted to side with the Bishop at the beginning, and yet now that I did it here I am, entirely hoping that he wins. -- William Harley ~ a writer and a libertine
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Grenem Posts: 2067 7/11/2016	Johny Topside wrote: Grenem wrote: Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote: The Bishop is the only one who's sticking to fidelity and his principles. He's furiously rejected infernal donators and their funding now. He's a man of honor. Meanwhile the poor contrarian has started to be coerced by the more ruthless elements of the Calendar. edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 7/11/2016 And has reacted by funneling their money straight to the other parties. Great. Wonderful. I could just swap support to Jenny and call it a day, given the position he's in. How is he funneling it elsewhere? From what I've seen he's trying to root it out. Isn't that what the league of supporters frantically scouring documents and his stack of papers on St Dunstan's soulless problem that has the word "publish" on the top supposed to be? Like, he's publishing it. He's exposing 'himself'. No, i was talking about the contrarian in response to the callendar's attempt to 'support' him. "However, recent entries in the Contrarian's personal ledgers reveal substantial donations to both Jenny and the Bishop. It is unlikely that these rows have been copied across." -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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