absimiliard
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6/21/2016
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So my Abs is a secretive sort, this is probably no big surprise to those who RP with me. I reflect this on a few levels, one of which is inventory. I don't think I have ever sold any of my Whispered Secrets or Cryptic Clues.
Currently I'm at around 24k of each, give or take 2k depending on which one we're talking about.
Given the rest of my inventory I could easily dump my Secrets and Clues and get an Overgoat. However I'm torn, I love having my Secrets and Clues, and I like that I've never been willing to part with any of them. It's an odd kind of RP-thing, but there it is.
Then again .. . I'm all about giving up Anything in pursuit of a worthy goal. So if the Overgoat is a worthwhile goal I'll do it, but I don't really know if an Overgoat is worthwhile. (it's also remotely possible I could wreck most of the rest of my inventory and have enough to get an Overgoat without selling my Secrets or Clues, but I doubt it.)
Which brings up my question: Is the Overgoat worth it?
Does it have anything cool?
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Grenem
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6/21/2016
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The goat is a must-have for the fastest option on expeditions, which is where they really become a great grind when you have dock's favors, but you might not be able to access that option even with a mere overgoat- (I can access it, without needing a mood, with a goat, no fate items, and a watchful destiny. You'll need a destiny or a watchful overcap for 100% success rate, or, of course, an ubergoat- the number to hit is 264, IIRC. ).
It also unlocks an option on its card that, while highly prone to failure (~50% success rate for me), pays 25 echoes on success, and 2.5 on failure, for 8 actions.
it also unlocks a reliable one that pays 2.5 echoes on the almost-certain success.
In addition, if watchful renown caps work like the others did, then with an ubergoat you'll be able to hit renown 50- with a mood, but without a destiny or a POSI specialization.
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Kittenpox
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6/21/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
So my Abs is a secretive sort, this is probably no big surprise to those who RP with me. I reflect this on a few levels, one of which is inventory. I don't think I have ever sold any of my Whispered Secrets or Cryptic Clues.
Currently I'm at around 24k of each, give or take 2k depending on which one we're talking about.
Given the rest of my inventory I could easily dump my Secrets and Clues and get an Overgoat. However I'm torn, I love having my Secrets and Clues, and I like that I've never been willing to part with any of them. It's an odd kind of RP-thing, but there it is.
Then again .. . I'm all about giving up Anything in pursuit of a worthy goal. So if the Overgoat is a worthwhile goal I'll do it, but I don't really know if an Overgoat is worthwhile. (it's also remotely possible I could wreck most of the rest of my inventory and have enough to get an Overgoat without selling my Secrets or Clues, but I doubt it.)
Which brings up my question: Is the Overgoat worth it?
Does it have anything cool?
I like it, especially for access to this action on an already-existing Opportunity Card, but if you would rather keep Secrets there's no reason why you can't delay your Goat for another time - especially when the decision has RP value. :-)
I would say yes it's worth having a goat, because in my opinion I'm glad to have it. Your mileage may vary.
For you, however, perhaps you would take pride in not telling the Bazaar a single goddamned thing, while still getting your terrifying hell-beast by trading other less-mysterious items. ^_^
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lady ciel
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6/22/2016
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Nothing to do with gaining Dock's favours but that is supposed to be the most cost effective way of getting the supplies.
As for the goat - the higher your watchful the easier expeditions become. It takes all the best watchful stat boosting gear, including the Ubergoat, to make the 3 Supply option 100%.
Edit - that is when you are at 200 base watchful as well. You need 264 total or thereabout I think.
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absimiliard
Posts: 759
6/22/2016
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Bad Optimatum, tempting me to Seek. You know I want to, but I'm being good for now. But ooohhhhh, the Shiny Red Button!! (honestly, not Seeking, seriously honestly, still have stuff to do in the game!)
I think Kittenpox and Sir Joseph have it. Better to keep my secrets, even if just to taunt the Bazaar, and gossip w. cats on the roof.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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6/22/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
So my Abs is a secretive sort, this is probably no big surprise to those who RP with me. I reflect this on a few levels, one of which is inventory. I don't think I have ever sold any of my Whispered Secrets or Cryptic Clues.
Currently I'm at around 24k of each, give or take 2k depending on which one we're talking about.
Given the rest of my inventory I could easily dump my Secrets and Clues and get an Overgoat. However I'm torn, I love having my Secrets and Clues, and I like that I've never been willing to part with any of them. It's an odd kind of RP-thing, but there it is.
Then again .. . I'm all about giving up Anything in pursuit of a worthy goal. So if the Overgoat is a worthwhile goal I'll do it, but I don't really know if an Overgoat is worthwhile. (it's also remotely possible I could wreck most of the rest of my inventory and have enough to get an Overgoat without selling my Secrets or Clues, but I doubt it.)
Which brings up my question: Is the Overgoat worth it?
Does it have anything cool?
{edit for words, B____y Words.}
edited by absimiliard on 6/21/2016
Honestly, knowing you, you'd probably wish to keep your secrets to yourself if solely for the purpose to spite the Bazaar's wishes. You could always sell Cryptic Clues for flawed diamonds, or seek the name with them as others have suggested. If you have enough of the bloody things, you could continuously convert them to build up supplies for creating an Impossible Theorem, or convert them all into Tales of Terror to further convert them for easy Making Waves. Whispered Hints aren't worth converting, so your best bet without selling them to the Bazaar is to trade them for supplies at the Forgotten Quarter. Don't give that bloody Bazaar a single hint about what's REALLY going on with the citizens of London, ESPECIALLY with that amount. You'll doom London herself and us along with her!
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Neonir
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6/24/2016
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I have a counter offer:
GIVE IN TO THE BAZAAR! GET EVEN MORE HINTS AND THEN TRADE THEM ALL FOR A PLACE WITHIN ITS HALLS!
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Nigel Overstreet
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6/22/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
It really is all about the AND. In that case you must have the goat AND use it to reacquire as many secrets you like.
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absimiliard
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6/22/2016
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"Oh, but Nigel, that is still an OR, can you not see it? Let me try again, to more detail my, example."
"You wait upon me at Mr. Chimes. I come to you in one the locked rooms in my gown, scarlet stockings on my feet. In one hand I bear that bottle of absinthe, in the other wine. I offer you both, but you sell the bottle of wine in promise of another so that you may drink the absinthe with me first, we then consume the new bottle of wine later."
"But that is still OR. We have not tasted the first bottle together with the absinthe, we have instead chosen one and then the other, no true AND at all."
"I find that pleasure delayed is pleasure still, and often increases to greater heights. Do not ask me to choose this OR simply because it is quicker. Allow me to build my anticipation and my pleasure in the knowledge that my delay will produce the AND I most strongly desire -- let my desire flower, rather than rushing things far too fast and coming . . . to a less satisfying ending."
Absimiliard grins wickedly at you.
"Did that help explain things better -- appealing to the pleasure-seeker in you?"
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BillyBones
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6/23/2016
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Secrets, friend, are currency. And what is currency for, if not to be spent? Secrets carry little use if you're unwilling to spend them. Some spend them on a nice hat, or a fine dress. Others prefer to invest their secrets, on blackmail and extortion, hoping to gain more currency in return. I think an Overgoat would be a magnificent investment. Don't you?
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absimiliard
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6/23/2016
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For a human your point is most excellent indeed BillyBones. And from that human viewpoint an Overgoat is indeed an excellent investment.
But for a cat secrets are .. . something different.
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absimiliard
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6/21/2016
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It's sounding like I will want the Goat eventually, but don't really need it right now.
Kittenpox's point that Abs would take pride in not telling the Bazaar a single god-damned thing is really telling as well.
Guess it's time to grind out some more echoes.
Thanks folks.
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Estelle Knoht
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6/22/2016
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Functionally, the Overgoat is but a stepping stone towards the Ubergoat for all your Watchful needs.
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absimiliard
Posts: 759
6/22/2016
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Gods no. Even to goat at all would mean selling nearly everything I have and all my secrets. An ubergoat . ... that way lies insanity.
Nigel Overstreet wrote:
The question is, is your character the sort of person who wants to discover secrets, or simply keep the ones she has?
Oh Nigel, why must you OR this on me? Surely you must have heard that I'm quite insistent on preferring AND.
I wish ... well, let it be said, "... she is the sort who wants to discover secrets AND wants to keep the ones he has as well ...."
Can't you see how much more deliciously that trips off the tongue? Consider surely; would you prefer we drink Broken Giant OR Absinthe? Or would you not rather prefer that we drink Broken Giant AND Absinthe?
It really is all about the AND.
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