 thedeadlymoose Posts: 214
6/22/2016
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Ubergoat and Overgoat were both worth it for me. It is very satisfying to actually use the locked options on the fairly common goat card (that's the only non-important action I use second changes for, and it has a pretty good payout).
I do definitely recommend going all the way and getting an Ubergoat if you get an Overgoat. Acing the 3-expedition supply options is *pretty* awesome.
And it's not as impossible as one might think! (Stuff like Seeking, or Cider... now that's another story.) I found, and others apparently have to, anecdotally, that getting an Overgoat and playing the 8-action option regularly, makes it a lot easier to get an Ubergoat in normal course of play than it was to get the first Overgoat.
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 rahv7 Posts: 294
6/22/2016
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Grenem wrote:
The goat is a must-have for the fastest option on expeditions, which is where they really become a great grind when you have dock's favors, but you might not be able to access that option even with a mere overgoat-
I am probably missing something blindingly obvious here but how exactly does my goat help with expeditions or dock's favours?
-- It's possible people have forgotten that there is an actual devil in the actual Lord Mayor's office. A devil who is promising to look after people's souls. What is wrong with everybody?
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
6/22/2016
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Nothing to do with gaining Dock's favours but that is supposed to be the most cost effective way of getting the supplies.
As for the goat - the higher your watchful the easier expeditions become. It takes all the best watchful stat boosting gear, including the Ubergoat, to make the 3 Supply option 100%.
Edit - that is when you are at 200 base watchful as well. You need 264 total or thereabout I think. edited by reveurciel on 6/22/2016
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
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 rahv7 Posts: 294
6/22/2016
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I see. Thank you. I really should've thought of that.
-- It's possible people have forgotten that there is an actual devil in the actual Lord Mayor's office. A devil who is promising to look after people's souls. What is wrong with everybody?
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
6/22/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
It really is all about the AND. In that case you must have the goat AND use it to reacquire as many secrets you like.
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 absimiliard Posts: 759
6/22/2016
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"Oh, but Nigel, that is still an OR, can you not see it? Let me try again, to more detail my, example."
"You wait upon me at Mr. Chimes. I come to you in one the locked rooms in my gown, scarlet stockings on my feet. In one hand I bear that bottle of absinthe, in the other wine. I offer you both, but you sell the bottle of wine in promise of another so that you may drink the absinthe with me first, we then consume the new bottle of wine later."
"But that is still OR. We have not tasted the first bottle together with the absinthe, we have instead chosen one and then the other, no true AND at all."
"I find that pleasure delayed is pleasure still, and often increases to greater heights. Do not ask me to choose this OR simply because it is quicker. Allow me to build my anticipation and my pleasure in the knowledge that my delay will produce the AND I most strongly desire -- let my desire flower, rather than rushing things far too fast and coming . . . to a less satisfying ending."
Absimiliard grins wickedly at you.
"Did that help explain things better -- appealing to the pleasure-seeker in you?"
-- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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 BillyBones Posts: 40
6/23/2016
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Secrets, friend, are currency. And what is currency for, if not to be spent? Secrets carry little use if you're unwilling to spend them. Some spend them on a nice hat, or a fine dress. Others prefer to invest their secrets, on blackmail and extortion, hoping to gain more currency in return. I think an Overgoat would be a magnificent investment. Don't you?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/BillyBones
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 absimiliard Posts: 759
6/23/2016
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For a human your point is most excellent indeed BillyBones. And from that human viewpoint an Overgoat is indeed an excellent investment.
But for a cat secrets are .. . something different.
-- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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 Neonir Posts: 118
6/24/2016
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I have a counter offer:
GIVE IN TO THE BAZAAR! GET EVEN MORE HINTS AND THEN TRADE THEM ALL FOR A PLACE WITHIN ITS HALLS!
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lord%20Gregory
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