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https://client00.chat.mibbit.com #fallenlondon on synirc
bjorn is going NORTH
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 bjorntfh Posts: 216
6/20/2016
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I go North. Without regrets, without doubts, without anything really. Think of me fondly, if you think of me at all, dear friends.
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6/20/2016
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The account is destroyed. I can confirm that. It's not teasing, it's not hinting, it's straight up honest. There's a price for everything, and I gladly paid it.
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 John Moose Posts: 276
6/21/2016
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Pyrodinium wrote:
Congrats!
It would be totally awesome if the player can replay FL as an ascended character with cool abilities such as being naturally to break the 200-stat barrier.
As cool as that sounds, it would defeat the point of Seeking. It's not a quest to ascend and begin NG+, it's a quest to take a shovel and bury your beloved character deep for no good reason except that you can.
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
6/21/2016
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There is another.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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6/22/2016
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[spoiler]I went to the Chapel to get St Fortigan's Candle but they told me it was Gawain time and chopped off my head. I was confused so I went back again to make sure, and they chopped my head off again, but I still only have one head. The third time I showed up, they had calmed down, and they let me get St Fortigan's Candle in peace. I replaced my head with an egg, so I'm fine.[/spoiler] edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/22/2016
-- my rats will blot out the sun Ratgames FL lore/mechanics questions and answers #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit. #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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 bjorntfh Posts: 216
6/20/2016
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It is done.
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 CALLNXW Posts: 116
6/20/2016
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FUNTIME'S OVER
Bjorn became a judgement and slam dunked the bazaar straight into the sun. The end.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Call%20Now
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 CALLNXW Posts: 116
6/20/2016
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bjorntfh wrote:
Actually what I specifically said was "The Seventh City will never fall". also
22:00 <bjorntfh> And, yes, I do burn. Forever. 22:00 <bjorntfh> Look to me for guidance, and I will always lead you North.
my proposed theory makes all those things true I know that now you can only speak in Correspondence which is an awful language but baby, i'm right there on your footprints.
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 bjorntfh Posts: 216
6/20/2016
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Actually what I specifically said was "The Seventh City will never fall".
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 An Individual Posts: 589
6/20/2016
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Congratulations I think? Whatever waits you at least you'll be the first to put your foot prints in that terrible terrible snow. You should think up a phrase to say. Like "one small step for man" and what not. That is, if you can speak. Just screaming a lot is another option. edited by An Individual on 6/20/2016
-- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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 Zero Posts: 136
6/20/2016
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Congratulations on utterly destroying your character. Now that I know the ending really deletes your account, I want to Seek even harder. edited by Zero on 6/20/2016
-- SEND ME CHESS AND I SHALL RECIPROCATE
Daniel Ember - Once a doctor. Now something else.
My Twine games
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 An Individual Posts: 589
6/20/2016
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bjorntfh wrote:
The account is destroyed. I can confirm that. It's not teasing, it's not hinting, it's straight up honest. There's a price for everything, and I gladly paid it.
Congratulations/Condolences on being the first to experience a true ending to their Fallen London story. May the next one be equally spectacular.
-- An Individual's Profile The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away. Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help. Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting. Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint. Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road. Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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 th8827 Posts: 823
6/23/2016
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Since so many other accimplishments have registries in the forums, I would like to suggest a Seeking Registry that keeps track of people who passed through the gate, and people who turned back in the last minute. This would be a great way to honor their accomplishments.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 Kylestien Posts: 749
6/21/2016
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I must say, congratulations on being the first. I would love to know what occured, but I will respect Failbetter's wishes on this matter.
I will say however I would be interested in a list of the hints to see if I can peice together the puzzle
-- I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
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 The Dark Gentleman Posts: 188
6/20/2016
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The First, the First, the First... edited by The Dark Gentleman on 6/20/2016
-- The Dark Gentleman~ Social actions welcome. Menace reductions upon request. Newspaper interviews by appointment. Falconry by invitation only.
"THE HOURS FEAR THE NAMES. THE NAMES FEAR THE LONG. THE LONG FEAR THE KNOW. ALL FEAR THE HOURS."
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 bjorntfh Posts: 216
6/20/2016
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Nope. I contacted FBG to get my email moved over so I can start a new character. I'm done with this character, though I will always gaze upon her fondly.
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 Wiwo Posts: 365
6/20/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
Did you people on the IRC find out? Frustratingly and delightfully, no.
-- Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely.
Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred.
Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably).
I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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 Harlocke Posts: 506
6/21/2016
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I wonder if the unique item actually does anything, or is merely a trophy for bragging rights. Perhaps the item removes obscurity, or otherwise helps you re-enter normal gameplay to an extent.
Another interesting things is that the description on the NORTH destination mentions that the Dilmun club might also venture there. Perhaps non-seekers will also get to visit Avid Horizon. edited by Harlocke on 6/21/2016
-- I welcome social actions, and can visit your salon as an author.
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 Blaine Davidson Posts: 388
6/21/2016
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If NiteBrite joins Bjorntfh does this mean that no one owns a Heptagoat and thus the title of "Mother of Goats" is available? edited by Blaine Davidson on 6/21/2016
-- Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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 Askebaske Posts: 25
6/21/2016
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I would join and say that as an absolute lore nut (especially in relation to the judgements/Salt) I would love to know if the final steps are ever shared in some sort of closed/enigma-ish group. My character would never seek the name for roleplaying reasons, and I have nowhere near the necessary time to level an alt, sadly.
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 lady ciel Posts: 2548
6/21/2016
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I am seriously considering creating another Alt to take that final step though I will still continue Seeking as Ciel. I'm not sure I can take her through the Gate.
-- ciel
Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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 tsukinofaerii Posts: 56
6/21/2016
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Congratulations/Condolences, delicious bjorntfh. You will forever be an inspiration/warning to all of us who follow in your footsteps.
Farewell. You will not be the only one for long.
-- A lady who is infrequently present, but always hungry.
Currently: Circling the b----y well
Find me.
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 Chiltern Posts: 19
6/21/2016
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
There is another.
and the game is down! EVERYONE IS NORTH
-- Am open to all social actions in good faith. Duplicitous acquaintances will be summarily snubbed.
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6/21/2016
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Damn, congratulations... I think...! So, you're dead dead as in real dead? "It's bjorntfh! Welcome to Avid Horizon, delicious friend!" If so I guess you were really delicious.  EDIT: Servers are back and I can enjoy the your journal! But how did you write all that down? Was it before you lost your head? Poor soul... ) edited by Skinnyman on 6/21/2016
-- ESs items and quality requirements sheet. Please check if there are errors or if something is missing Achievement list if you're feeling bored! I am accepting Plant battles, Neath's Mysteries card, Starveling Cats and boxed cats. No suppers, no second chances gain and no need to cure my menaces!
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 JimmyTMalice Posts: 237
6/20/2016
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That is for Bjorn to know, and anyone who comes after him. (Leaking the details of what comes after the Horizon is strongly discouraged by Failbetter)
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Gideon Stormstrider, the Esoteric Gadgeteer
Jimmy T. Malice, gone.
A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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 Omega8520 Posts: 102
6/20/2016
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The ship has been eaten, along with so much more.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Omega8520 A Correspondent of measure and restraint, not-withstanding a tendancy to rush into things.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Menacing%20Seeker Northwards with Noman. At least they'll have company.
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 Ian Hart Posts: 437
6/22/2016
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Jeremy Saklad wrote:
Can someone PM me screenshots of the final part at Avid Horizon? I don’t want to Seek, but I want to know nevertheless. Amusingly, the absolute best secrecy available to Failbetter is the polite request. It will likely be a long time until someone willing to violate that trust has the commitment to finish Seeking.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Antifinity
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 DemonicFerret Posts: 12
6/26/2016
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th8827 wrote:
Bjorn and Spacemarine, you picked opposite Greive/Hate choices, right? Have you compared notes to see if there is any difference in your experience beyond the gate?
That comparison has occurred, and there is definitely a significant difference.
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 Sir Joseph Marlen Posts: 575
6/23/2016
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Gonen wrote:
suinicide wrote:
Can you unequip the knock? There was some talk of an unequipable hat.
Probably, most likely. The hat? Might want to look over there, at the hat slot: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bjorntfh edited by Gonen on 6/23/2016 Keep in mind that Spacemarine9 replaced his with an egg for 12 hours with no effect whatsoever. Then again, he experienced a glitch that caused him to receive it twice before the option should have been available, so the whole thing could have been a glitch. Or maybe Failbetter staff are just waiting to implement the consequences to lull us into a sense of security, then they activate it and we fall over dead for thinking we called them on their bluff. Only one way to find out, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
-- Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft
Available for any and all social actions.
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 Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335
6/20/2016
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POST THE TRANSCRIPTS.
I can't connect to the IRC. edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 6/20/2016
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 Ian Hart Posts: 437
6/20/2016
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Congratulations!
I imagine that unique item will be extremely rare to see. I honestly can't say if it's harder to go all that way and then end your character, or to go all that way and then just... not. Hopefully someday I'll get to decide for myself.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Antifinity
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 phryne Posts: 1351
6/20/2016
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Eric Larrieu-let wrote:
Also, I am seeing the first post as being on an all white backround. I don't know if that's a feature, something wrong with my browser, or I am hallucinating it. It's a feature, that's how an "accepted answer" looks. There's an extension to make it more readable.
-- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
6/21/2016
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Congrats!
It would be totally awesome if the player can replay FL as an ascended character with cool abilities such as being naturally to break the 200-stat barrier.
-- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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 th8827 Posts: 823
6/22/2016
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Can you sell the head, and how much would it get you if you can?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 dov Posts: 2580
6/22/2016
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OMG, just realized from Space's description that [spoiler]Fortigan is Forthigan when taking off its H(ead).[/spoiler] Or possibly I'm reading to much into things...
---- edited by dov on 6/22/2016
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Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how. (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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 Mr. Secrets Posts: 101
6/21/2016
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While I greatly discourage spoilers on all the lore, I salivate at the thought of what the new item will be. To seek, all the way to the end, only to give up at the last moment?
What could be more SMEN than that? To lose everything, without even the catharsis of an ending.
-- Mr. Secrets - We Are In Our Ascendance. There Will Be Ten And Then All Shall Be Well And All Shall Be Well And All Manner of Things Shall Be Well.
The Straveling Solider - The Straveling Soldier, The Straveling Soldier hates and hates the beings Solar.
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
6/21/2016
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Harlocke wrote:
Ian Hart wrote:
Askebaske wrote:
I would join and say that as an absolute lore nut (especially in relation to the judgements/Salt) I would love to know if the final steps are ever shared in some sort of closed/enigma-ish group. My character would never seek the name for roleplaying reasons, and I have nowhere near the necessary time to level an alt, sadly. They say you can level your SMEN with patience. I created an alt that I only play rarely, but once a week I can use marsh mired to progress. Obviously I'll have to go through some amount of grinding (I hear one of the candles requires access to the cave of the nadir) but if you have to destroy the account anyway, there's not really any point in acquiring more than the bare minimum requirements for the candles.
How long does it take to complete SMEN, assuming you're starting from scratch, and focusing just on progressing SMEN? The players that are getting close are those who have been in FL for years. I wonder how long it'll take all the SMEN alts people just created. assuming patience is a viable route, it will take 1 week per level up to ~27 (though you also get one from getting candles, and there's two of those before cerise). Then you need to hit 28- best done by getting cerise's candle. Once you've done that, getting 29 from 28 is 7 uncanny incubatulum, and you can buy the calling card. Alternatively, if you get to SMEN 21, and can convince someone to give you eaten's calling card, you can wink from there, too.
[winking isle is the best way to get SMEN for those who have nothing. Past that point, there are less raw resource consumption options, i believe. you could ask someone further along to verify, though.]
So, from 3, at one level a week and never taking an appalling secrets challenge, getting to winking isle will take 24 TTHs of weekly marsh-mired if you're going all on your own (22 after candles) and 18 TTHs if you can con someone into giving you a calling card from eaten (still 18, as the first candle is at 21.).
The candles should have options to use raw cash, or cheaper options that require obscure stuff. Your easiest route to cerise will be either a noman at christmas or the ultimate type of short story- which requires two trade secrets to even try to write. Arthur costs quite a tidy sum. Done maximally efficiently, beau's costs at least 150 memories of light [75 echoes] and 3300 moon pearls [33 echoes]. Done less-so for the other options, and, well... costs go up.
But you're going to be spending 18 weeks minimum setting up before you can get the first candle, unless you manage to skip a level with appalling secrets, so... Play dilligently, and you'll probably be more-than-capable of affording the candles as they manifest. I mean, you've got 4 months to become POSI before destin's is even a possible concern, if the notability 12 is even the proper way to get the candle. edited by Grenem on 6/21/2016
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
6/21/2016
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Whoa. Go on vacation and see I miss.
Well, I'll get Arthur tomorrow so I still have plenty of time to decide whether to save this as endgame or just go for it and start a fresh character.
Congratulations.
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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 Kittenpox Posts: 869
6/21/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
POST THE TRANSCRIPTS.
I can't connect to the IRC. This, please. :-) I'm curious to see what was written in the IRC. edited by Kittenpox on 6/21/2016
-- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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 th8827 Posts: 823
6/20/2016
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So... Did you actually find his name?
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
6/20/2016
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Màiread wrote:
Congratulations (I think!?). Alas, no IRC for me...hope everything you own isn't on fire (if you have anything left). VAnd well done on making Neathy history. It destroys the account irrevokably, according to bold text. [well, in the sense of no longer possible to use, not "this profile doesn't exist"]
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
6/20/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
Did you people on the IRC find out? nope! There are rumors, but very little confirmed. It probably involved destruction, though. "The Seventh City will never fall" probably involved lots of destruction.
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 Rupho Schartenhauer Posts: 787
6/20/2016
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Congratulations! (I guess)
One question: on your Profile, no ship is visibly equipped. How did you make these journeys south and north?
-- Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it. Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely. Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated. Dr. Kvirkvelia, gone NORTH on 23/12/1894.
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
6/20/2016
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CALLNXW wrote:
FUNTIME'S OVER
Bjorn became a judgement and slam dunked the bazaar straight into the sun. The end. Unconfirmed. We have cryptic hints, including "The Seventh City will never fall", but we do not know what actually happened. This is by the dev's polite suggestion. We also do not know if this is the only possible end to seeking that involves finishing hte quest, or if choosing the other side of the pair "hate & grieve" will end differently.
Just to clarify, probably being a killjoy, etc.
EDIT: anything prior to this point is fair game and available, should you find someone willing to speak. (including all 7 candles and the journey north). this is the end of seeking for those unwilling to destroy an account. The dev's polite suggestion is on the other side of the link [Spoilers]: https://imgur.com/OouPRPr edited by Grenem on 6/20/2016
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 phryne Posts: 1351
6/20/2016
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They still appear in the drop-down menu for Calling Cards and Letters, but nowhere else so far (I haven't got the Gift card in my hand)
EDIT: Gifts not possible. edited by phryne on 6/20/2016
-- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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 Gonen Posts: 817
6/20/2016
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You are a hero! I will always look north and from my cowardly position, say a pray for you.
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The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.
The long journey to eccentricity: On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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6/23/2016
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Then, make it a warning to others by using the list of names as an example of those who foolishly threw away everything, even their account. And those who had the wisdom of turning back in the last second, before all was lost.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
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 Màiread Posts: 385
6/22/2016
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Failbetter has requested, gently, that the last leg not be shared around - it is likely that the only way to see it will be to take the path yourself.
-- Màiread - Correspondent, composer, lover of cats. Can probably bake you a d__n fine cake.
Useful Links: Traveller's Friend (Progress Tracker & Notability Calculator) | phryne's Guide to Favours & Renown |
Peggy the Nowoman lived to see the Feast. Thank you for the memories, Snow Lady.
I'm happy to accept most social actions except for lethal sparring and loitering suspiciously. Please challenge my plant! Currently not accepting calling cards.
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 CALLNXW Posts: 116
6/23/2016
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Honoring seekers with anything sounds like an amazing way of missing the point entireli, if you ask me.
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6/28/2016
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As per the King James:
Genesis 4
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.
24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.
Matthew 18
21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
I feel as though Alexis' hint that there was a set of clues no one had commented on yet may have something to do with these passages. Not sure what yet though.
-- Truth lies at the bottom of a well.
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"Who is Salt?" also causes a different outcome, as I understand it.
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6/20/2016
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6/20/2016
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Congratulations/commiserations Bjorn! Your sacrifice was likely entirely in vain, because that's kind of the point of SMEN...
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6/21/2016
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Depends on whether you lose Obscurity after quitting. If not, your gameplay would be severely hampered.
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6/20/2016
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(Btw, I hope all the guys did hold onto their balls. Would be a shame if some were lost in the well...)
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6/22/2016
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Spacemarine9 wrote:
[spoiler]I went to the Chapel to get St Fortigan's Candle but they told me it was Gawain time and chopped off my head. I was confused so I went back again to make sure, and they chopped my head off again, but I still only have one head. The third time I showed up, they had calmed down, and they let me get St Fortigan's Candle in peace. I replaced my head with an egg, so I'm fine.[/spoiler] edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/22/2016 Well then, I guess your brain must be pretty...scrambled! Hahahahahhaha please don't delete my account.
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6/22/2016
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BTW , Spacemarine9, did you get the E Candle? And if so,
[spolier] did you choose the (Fate?) option in the Nadir to get it by not raising Obscurity? If so, I'd appreciate a PM with any details about this option (Fate cost, does this really mean no Obscurity is gained and so players can keep their profession, etc.).
I saw that the Google doc was updated on this but the implications and costs are still not clear.[/spoiler]
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6/21/2016
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Jeremy Avalon wrote:
Stains and scars are removable, at significant Fate costs, once you're Free of the Name. I don't know if taking the knock will actually free you of the name, though, or if triggering a bad end will take it away, if it won't, and you can cure the last candle's side effects, then a true BDR maniac has one more mad quest. If you can't... well. sure, it's 4 bdr, but that's less what you could get at the rose-feast. edited by Grenem on 6/21/2016
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6/21/2016
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Grenem wrote:
EDIT: anything prior to this point is fair game and available, should you find someone willing to speak. (including all 7 candles and the journey north). this is the end of seeking for those unwilling to destroy an account. The dev's polite suggestion is on the other side of the link [Spoilers]: https://imgur.com/OouPRPr edited by Grenem on 6/20/2016
I haven't followed the full costs of seeking. If you did choose to "survive", what would be left for you? Could you still play the game fairly normally? Regain what you lost over time?
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6/21/2016
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Hard to hold my curiosity at bay, but knowing I won't be able to follow this path anytime soon I must ask this: bjorntfh, if you'll ever wish to share some knowledge about the final steps, I would love to receive a PM/see a forum post. Cheers! P.S.: Lovely signature, Kittenpox! :p Keeps changing more and more!
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 Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335
6/20/2016
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I am calling it now: The Seven-Fold Knock is 'shave and a haircut, two bits'. 'Shave and a haircut' , times The Number. It has seven beats to it, that rhythm.
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6/20/2016
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Could you link to a transcription of the IRC? edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 6/20/2016
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6/20/2016
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Ian Hart wrote:
I imagine that unique item will be extremely rare to see. I plan to get it with my Seeker - though it's still a long way to go, obviously.
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Congratulations (I think!?). Alas, no IRC for me...hope everything you own isn't on fire (if you have anything left). VAnd well done on making Neathy history.
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6/20/2016
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phryne wrote:
CALLNXW wrote:
FUNTIME'S OVER
Bjorn became a judgement and slam dunked the bazaar straight into the sun. The end.
Was that the only possible ending or did he have different choices? It's confirmed that he got a chance to confirm hate || grieve, but we don't know what other choices xe may have had. We also don't know if they change the ending.
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 LawrenceKeyworth Posts: 73
6/26/2016
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Spacemarine, if you feel comfortable answering, must you too "Endure" now?
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6/26/2016
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Bjorn and Spacemarine, you picked opposite Greive/Hate choices, right? Have you compared notes to see if there is any difference in your experience beyond the gate?
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 Optimatum Posts: 3666
6/23/2016
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dov wrote:
Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Was that option Fate-locked? When bjorntfh screenshot that portion of SMEN, I don't remember seeing a Fate option. All I remember was an option to take on the Obscurity quality or to pass it up and continue on the story without the penalty. Does it turn out to cost Fate? Or is that another option available? I thought I remembered someone saying it cost Fate, but it could have been entirely my mistake (I didn't see bjorntfh's screenshot).
A Fate cost also made sense to skip such a significant menace.
So, does this mean that Obscurity and its consequences are entirely optional? No actual cost to skipping it? No Fate cost, or any other cost. It's simply a test of how far you will go when you don't even have to.
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6/23/2016
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I understand if no one wants to share. I hate it, but I understand. I have no wish to complete SMEN myself, so I suppose a tiny bit of the Neath will always remain obscured even to my Extraordinary Mind.
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6/27/2016
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Three different endings that we know of? Dang, if Seeking wasn't a devotion to something massive before, it certainly is now. I wonder, does anyone know what the motives are behind the different Question qualities and what kind of ending they're aiming for? From what I understand, it's something like this: Grieve is for Seekers who wish to remember the tragedy of Mr. Eaten and to mourn his unjust passing by seeking to know the truth; Hate is for those who wish for a reckoning to commence and to get revenge/questionable justice for Mr. Eaten by nuking the Neath with Judgement-powered death; Who is Salt? is...well, I'm not sure exactly, but it sounds like it would relate to giving up all sense of oneself to embody the spirit of Seeking and self-destruction for the sake of pointless and disastrous progression alone. If anyone has any other theories or actual in-game information on the subject, then please feel free to chime in. edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/27/2016
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Grieving and hatred...they're talking about opposite sides of the same coin, how to react to violence. Which does seem relevant to the Question.
And 77 *is* a pretty important number after all.
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6/23/2016
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suinicide wrote:
I didn't have wifi for a couple weeks, and it seems I missed some things. Do we know if there's a difference between grieve/hate? We do not
Is deleting your character 100% necessary?
If you want to finish the story, yes.
If so, is there some way to keep fate purchases? I also doubt it. It seems no transfer of objects is possible or allowed (The first Founder asked FBG).
Whats the knocking everyone was talking about?
A BDR +4 Dread equipment gained if choosing not to finish the story at the very end.
And finally, what is the obscurity mechanic?
A quality which could be gained when receiving one of the candles which prohibits you from getting certain cards. The effect: you can never gain Notability or have medium and high tier professions, a Destiny and a Tattoo. All the mentioned above are lost during the quest and cannot be replaced with this quality.
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6/23/2016
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suinicide wrote:
Can you unequip the knock? There was some talk of an unequipable hat.
Probably, most likely. The hat? Might want to look over there, at the hat slot: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Bjorntfh edited by Gonen on 6/23/2016
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How would those passages be related? Outside the 77s, there's no references to them specifically, as opposed to the multiple hints towards a particular other passage relevant to the storyline.
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6/26/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
"Who is Salt?" also causes a different outcome, as I understand it. Has anyone actually gotten that, or is it something that never happened yet? [spoiler]You get Who is Salt by doing the extra preparation steps on winking island for the Sun beneath the Sea quality, and then you take that quality to the South to get who is salt there. Dharlome and Spacemarine9 did Who is Salt as their question, but of course, no spoilers are allowed past the gate. So to know the result you must go NORTH[/spoiler] edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016
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Yeah. Or at least get there on one account then share notes privately with other NORTHerners. edited by Optimatum on 6/27/2016
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6/20/2016
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Sadly, I shall give up seeking, because I wish to self-destruct nemesis style - but man that ending is an epic way to end the Mr. Eaten Storyline.
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 Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335
6/20/2016
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What exactly happened?
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6/20/2016
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Did you people on the IRC find out?
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6/20/2016
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Only one question for you. Has all been revealed?
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CALLNXW wrote:
FUNTIME'S OVER
Bjorn became a judgement and slam dunked the bazaar straight into the sun. The end.
Does that mean the sun and the bazaar are finally together again or (far more satisfactory for me) the bazaar just got roasted?
Also, I am seeing the first post as being on an all white backround. I don't know if that's a feature, something wrong with my browser, or I am hallucinating it.
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phryne wrote:
It's a feature, that's how an "accepted answer" looks. There's an extension to make it more readable. A thousand thanks for the answer.
And, I forgot, uttermost congratulations to Bjorn for their victory on the quest for the name! (Was it Kevin? I remember someone said the name was Kevin.)
Finally! All is well and all manner of things have been thrown into the well! edited by Ernesto Choclo on 6/20/2016
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6/21/2016
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london isn't the 6th though, London is the 5th.
Is the deal already made, is paris to fall after all?
Are all of us to be smashed in the fall of paris even with this sacrifice and JUDGEMENT?
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6/21/2016
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Between the Stars, indeed. Congratulations.
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The new item would be interesting, though I would have consider long and hard the route I would take to get there. . .
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dov wrote:
BTW , Spacemarine9, did you get the E Candle? And if so,
[spolier] did you choose the (Fate?) option in the Nadir to get it by not raising Obscurity? If so, I'd appreciate a PM with any details about this option (Fate cost, does this really mean no Obscurity is gained and so players can keep their profession, etc.).
I saw that the Google doc was updated on this but the implications and costs are still not clear.[/spoiler] He got the candle. The bold text kept its word; no costs or Obscurity or anything else as far as we know.
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Yes, but if you're locked out of the hats slot, it's a net loss, which is what i mean.
I'm curious if you are in fact locked out of the hat slot. Can your head actually be removed if you click on it in your inventory? And does having your head severed give you any new qualities? Beyond the +1 St Gawain's candle. If not, how would the game know that you took it off?
If it is removable and the game reacts in some way, I wonder what the consequences are. Do you instantly enter a menace state, like going insane from literally losing your mind, or getting exiled to the tomb colonies for terrifying people with your appearance? Can you go to the carnival and juggle your head with some flaming torches to the delight of crowds? edited by Harlocke on 6/22/2016 edited by Harlocke on 6/22/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Harlocke wrote:
Grenem wrote:
EDIT: anything prior to this point is fair game and available, should you find someone willing to speak. (including all 7 candles and the journey north). this is the end of seeking for those unwilling to destroy an account. The dev's polite suggestion is on the other side of the link [Spoilers]: https://imgur.com/OouPRPr edited by Grenem on 6/20/2016
I haven't followed the full costs of seeking. If you did choose to "survive", what would be left for you? Could you still play the game fairly normally? Regain what you lost over time? Some of it yes, some of it no. If you choose to take obscurity, there's currently no cure. To get the last candle you need to get a certain hat, and you're told to never take it off... so there is that, though i don't know what happens when you do. Stains, chains and scars may be removable, but not easily. There's probably other stuff, but i don't know what it is off the top of my head. This is...actually a good question. I mean, the last candle is "unique" to say the least. Because the issue is quite spoilerific, I'll hide it in a spoiler tag. [spoiler]From a story perspective, after obtaining the last candle by becoming the candle, your body is essentially a wax dummy covered in skin with your severed head to go on top. From a mechanical perspective, you obtain 1x Your Own Severed Head as a hat that gives you the quality of Saint Gawain's Candle +1 and you supposedly can never unequip or replace it with another hat lest ominous consequences occur (probably death of some sort, since you're literally taking off your head). Not only would this be an issue from a story perspective since becoming Free of the Name would essentially snuff out the dark magic willing your wax golem body and severed head to life, but the mechanics of being forced to keep your severed head and dead body as punishment for Seeking would also be a benefit since you get to keep a free candle after quitting. You'd have to somehow fix that issue by getting rid of the item, but how would that work in the story? Do the cultists of The Chapel of Lights just send your organs and ligaments in a box with a note "Sorry for gutting you like a fish and turning you into an abomination" expecting you to empty out the wax filling and to piece yourself back together? ...actually, now that I think about it, that wouldn't be the weirdest thing this game as done.[/spoiler]Basically, I think they'd have to get rid of the hat, but I'm not entirely sure how that would come about. Oh well, I guess we'll figure out what happens eventually.
Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
Wait, is Space not wearing his head? Hey, yeah! When did you suddenly become headless, Space? And how the heck are you still alive? edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/22/2016
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Luckily, if you are already patient enough to undertake this plan, you can get at least 6 or so trade secrets after 27 TtHs. More than enough to write a Classic Short Story.
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Grenem wrote:
Jeremy Avalon wrote:
Stains and scars are removable, at significant Fate costs, once you're Free of the Name. I don't know if taking the knock will actually free you of the name, though, or if triggering a bad end will take it away, if it won't, and you can cure the last candle's side effects, then a true BDR maniac has one more mad quest. If you can't... well. sure, it's 4 bdr, but that's less what you could get at the rose-feast. edited by Grenem on 6/21/2016 The Knock is best BDR in slot, definitely. It's either a Glove or Weapon, and the best glove is 1 BDR from the Bazaar while the best Weapon is 3 BDR from the Feast.
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Optimatum wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Jeremy Avalon wrote:
Stains and scars are removable, at significant Fate costs, once you're Free of the Name. I don't know if taking the knock will actually free you of the name, though, or if triggering a bad end will take it away, if it won't, and you can cure the last candle's side effects, then a true BDR maniac has one more mad quest. If you can't... well. sure, it's 4 bdr, but that's less what you could get at the rose-feast. edited by Grenem on 6/21/2016 The Knock is best BDR in slot, definitely. It's either a Glove or Weapon, and the best glove is 1 BDR from the Bazaar while the best Weapon is 3 BDR from the Feast. Yes, but if you're locked out of the hats slot, it's a net loss, which is what i mean.
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