Lythalia
Posts: 21
6/17/2016
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Okay, so. Should I do this? If you've done it, was it worth it??
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I've been playing FL for about a month, so and advice would be appreciated!
If you would like to chat without the warryness Londen oozes, my tumblr is Occultling!
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Johanna de Silentio
Posts: 19
6/17/2016
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I went from Watchful 148 to 18 in three clicks. I don't know why I thought it was a good idea. Don't do it. Put it on a list of things you may do if you finish everything else, and then never do it.
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Passionario
Posts: 777
6/17/2016
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Seven reasons not to Seek:
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
6/17/2016
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If you are a new player especially you should not Seek. Doing so at any reasonable rate requires high stats and a lot of resources to burn. There is a lot to do in Fallen London other than Seeking.
You could always create an alt (a secondary character) to Seek. It is less painful on a completely fresh character as to progress eventually requires not having a whole load of stuff. You can also just gain one point of SMEN a week from the Unaccountably Peckish cards so having no resources on a brand-new character isn't a big issue.
But yes, all of the hardcore Seekers have done almost everything FL has to offer. Many of them have been around since SMEN's first incarnation. If you enjoy playing the game as it is, I would highly advice against it.
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Scienceandponies
Posts: 247
6/17/2016
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Haven't done it myself, but from what I've learned, the game itself rather emphatically tells you in bold text every step of the way that this is a terrible terrible decision that will do nothing but hurt you.
But if you want to be part of a community of bloody insane masochists, go for it.
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bjorntfh
Posts: 216
6/17/2016
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As the lead Seeker I can only say this: I'm watching four years of work burn before my eyes and I regret every click, but I can't stop myself. It's a beautiful horror and you should save yourself. SAVE YOURSELF! SAVE YOURSELF!
(seek with me...)
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bjorntfh
Posts: 216
6/17/2016
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Seeking is the act of thinking it will be cold tomorrow, so you set yourself on fire today.
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John Moose
Posts: 276
6/17/2016
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Cinnabar wrote:
Seeking is about being left in a room with a big red button labelled "Danger! Don't press this button!" and then pressing it anyway...
Seeking is hearing such a button exists somewhere, so you sell your house to fund your travels and kill your spouse on your way out of the door for good measure.
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Lythalia
Posts: 21
6/17/2016
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Vavakx Nonexus wrote:
It'll eat your everything, force you into weeks of grinding and stop you from having:
Tattoos
Destinies
Professions
Notability
Ambitions
E____a
Hope that helps.
edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 6/17/2016
UH OH.
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I've been playing FL for about a month, so and advice would be appreciated!
If you would like to chat without the warryness Londen oozes, my tumblr is Occultling!
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
6/17/2016
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Seeking is an easy to walk around minefield that you decide to find the safe path through (never around) by exploding all the mines personally on your own body and then gently replacing them so that others can have fun finding them too.
edited by NiteBrite on 6/17/2016
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Passionario
Posts: 777
6/17/2016
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Lythalia wrote:
Actually I'm mentally ill and I usually forget needs such as eating or drinking until I'm doing it.
If that is the case, then you really, really should NOT seek the Name.
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Grenem
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6/17/2016
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Lythalia wrote:
Okay, so. Should I do this? If you've done it, was it worth it??
If any of this makes you cringe, seeking is not for you. if none of it sounds particularly unpleasant, seeking is going to be trivial, at your level of investment. if it sounds difficult, but you think you can handle it, seeking is going to be really rough, but you might make it through.
Seeking the name is going to be painful. The first thing a seeker has to do is look for it in the forgotten quarter. Then draw a card to start the search. That's the easy part. they are now at either level two or three.
Then they have three options. destroy half their knowledge of the correspondence, destroy half their watchful, or use up a weekly quality on a menace card (unaccountably peckish 1-9 add these cards to the deck) to gain seeking at a variable cost. [Note that the cards' options all do nasty things, though some moreso than others. except for 9, which just means you have to deal with adding 1-8 to your deck. you only get to use the card once a week] They have to do this until they reach 4.
Once they do this, they have more options- specifically, spend 77 times their level of seeking in appaling secrets to research the name. that's about 50 echoes in secrets for the first time they can do this, by the way, and increases by 11.55 echoes each time. (and there's currently a bug that consumes an additional 77, or 11.55 echoes, if you have them) In addition, while initially a stat capped player's success would be certain, the challenge gets harder and harder. failure goes from improbably to possible to likely. Hitting 10 from 9 would cost 103.95 echoes. Nevertheless, this is the cheap option.
along the way, three other options become available. (well, more than that, but excluding actual seeking steps, three options open for progressing and unlocking more seeking.) you can use 77 mourning candles instead of 77 appalling secrets, with the thing otherwise identical, but the challenge is easier. then 7 enigmas, and easier still. Neither of these are worth it unless you pointedly avoid winking isle.
Finally, the third option is actually arguably valuable. If you are desperate for a dreadful surmise, this gives you one with no time-lock on it, and at the cost of no fate. (otherwise, dreadful surmises are only available during certain seasonal events.) Instead, it consumes 1 veils-velvet (3200 scraps), 1 master's blood (5 tears of the bazaar and 7 notability, or 35 bottles of airag), and 1 impossible theorem (49 searing enigmas, a watchful challenge, and something more besides.) In return, it gives 2 levels seeking. half the time, it consumes the item and gives a surmise, half the time it doesn't give the surmise, but still consumes the items.
[I stand corrected, It was previously bugged.]
[alternatively, marsh-mired is theoretically capable of getting you all the way to level 28, though at a pace of one a week, and you'd need to fish for the right cards.]
Then, finally, you hit 29. The best way to earn seeking is now available. winking isle. You need a calling card from eaten to go there. When there, you need to not have [long list of items]. if you do, you can grind fasting and meditating. it's luck challenges, because why not torment us more, but you can gain one seeking roughly every 36 actions. If you can con someone into sending you a calling card, that'll save you a lot of trouble, since it's transferable, and the isle can be accessed with lower seeking if you somehow get a card. good luck, though- it costs over 700 echoes to make! [And it's not like many people have gotten that far yet.] Still, this part makes things easier- but the candles get nastier around here.
Note that i have avoided the candles, the scars, the chains, the stains. this isn't the nastiest part. this is the in-between torments. This is the lull in the suffering that is seeking.
On the other hand, Do not believe people who say there is no profit in seeking, but believe anyone who says there is little profit in it.
Note: possibly useful options from seeking the name include: permanently removing your ability to sell your soul. destroying all your lodgings in one action. destroying all your connections in one action. 7 rapid trips to prison without criminal record. a renewable source of dreadful surmises. A way to turn appalling secrets into searing enigmas sometimes, though on loss you might lose an enigma you already have instead, so it's only good for when you have none. interesting lore.
Note: possible losses include just about everything ever extant in the game.
edited by Grenem on 6/17/2016
edited by Grenem on 6/17/2016
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malthaussen
Posts: 1060
6/17/2016
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If you have to ask, you already have your answer.
"Standing in front of the refrigerator: if you have to ask yourself if you're hungry, you're not."
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Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
6/17/2016
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Do not persue this. Especialy if you have doubts on the matter.
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An Individual
Posts: 589
6/17/2016
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It will be interesting to see what percentage of people finish the search and then quit the game. It is, in many ways, a character ruining experience. At the same time, it takes so much to complete that you have to be pretty dedicated to reach the end. One thing is for sure though. "All shall be well and all shall be well and all manner of thing shall be well" does not apply to angry revenge ghosts.
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Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road.
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Vavakx Nonexus
Posts: 892
6/17/2016
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No.
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Charlotte and the Caretaker: A family?
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Andrew Astherson
Posts: 118
6/17/2016
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You know, people, there are more dignified and painless ways to reduce oneself from existence available. Just sayn'.
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Lythalia
Posts: 21
6/17/2016
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Well, I might've accidentally started already (muffled laughter that breaks into crying) but, I did see the warnings. I chose to go on because I want to know what happens. I'm not doing this out of any need for a happy ending, I just want to know who Mr. Eaten is. The only concern I have is for my ambition, for I am also seeking to kill the Vake. My next order of business would be to become a person of some importance (via my dangerous quality, which is about 97 with my items in use) and then purchase a ship. After that I guess I'll continue on to search for the Vake.
Maybe after I've gotten that done I'll seek out Mr. Eaten, but for now I'll try to ignore the black candle card at the top of my Lodgings.
I have dug my grave, and I refuse not to rot in it.
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I've been playing FL for about a month, so and advice would be appreciated!
If you would like to chat without the warryness Londen oozes, my tumblr is Occultling!
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/lythalia
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dov
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6/17/2016
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The Master wrote:
You are all mad, the name does not exist, you cannot find what doesn't exist, stop trying to consume yourself to find something that doesn't exist.
Oh, I don't know about that. I have in my inventory a Candle which does not really exist. Yet I have it (for now).
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Cinnabar
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6/17/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Normal seekers are suicidally determined, but even they know better than to try to cheat devils if they don't need to.
edited by Grenem on 6/17/2016
You are talking about a group of players in which a few actually paid Fate to have their characters permanently deleted and then reported a bug when the deletion didn't happen... Given that the Grand Hunt has a detailed wiki page, I can't help but suspect that once it was first encountered, others immediately went to the Forgotten Quarter just to find out how horrible it would be.
Seeking is about being left in a room with a big red button labelled "Danger! Don't press this button!" and then pressing it anyway...
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Lythalia
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6/17/2016
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malthaussen wrote:
If you have to ask, you already have your answer.
"Standing in front of the refrigerator: if you have to ask yourself if you're hungry, you're not."
-- Mal
Actually I'm mentally ill and I usually forget needs such as eating or drinking until I'm doing it.
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I've been playing FL for about a month, so and advice would be appreciated!
If you would like to chat without the warryness Londen oozes, my tumblr is Occultling!
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/lythalia
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malthaussen
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6/18/2016
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@Cinnabar: Seeking is about being in such a room and not being able to press the button because the queue is too long.
-- Mal
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"Of two choices, I always take the third."
Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Passionario
Posts: 777
6/17/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Also, getting involved in the grand hunt involves being daft above and beyond the average player's stupidity.
I do not consider Seekers to be average players. They are extraordinary in many respects.
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Vavakx Nonexus
Posts: 892
6/17/2016
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It'll eat your everything, force you into weeks of grinding and stop you from having:
Tattoos
Destinies
Professions
Notability
Ambitions
E____a
Hope that helps.
edited by Vavakx Nonexus on 6/17/2016
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The Absurd Rogue
Posts: 1049
6/17/2016
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NO
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Kittenpox
Posts: 869
6/17/2016
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Lythalia wrote:
Okay, so. Should I do this?
This is me, joining the chorus of people advising you to not do this. ^_^
Lythalia wrote:
If you've done it, was it worth it??
Those in-game warnings? All there for a VERY good reason.
Do. Not. Seek. Mr. Eaten's. Name. :-)
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