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Absintheuse
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6/16/2016
London will have a Mayor. This week, we announce the candidates. Who will you support?
Below is news on our third and final candidate. More news on the Election will come tomorrow.


The Jovial Contrarian was last to declare. He joined the election only a day after publishing a piece denouncing the entire process as an undemocratic sham. He bears the slogan: "Master Yourself!"





“The Jovial Contrarian sits in the midst of the chaos. ‘At last, the chance to prove we are capable of self-governance is in our grasp.’ The Contrarian extends a hand.”


The Jovial Contrarian's campaign poster will be available soon, once he's finished arguing about typefaces with his printer.
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole
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6/16/2016
Professor Sketch wrote:
But he has no colors in his poster. You can't trust a man who doesn't put colors into his poster. How is he ever supposed to keep the color of London alive? Also, no facial hair. I can't tell him and Jenny apart if one of them doesn't get facial hair.


Once again, Sketch speaks about the issues important to the common man/woman/other: Graphic Design.
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NiteBrite
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6/16/2016
[spoiler]The main positive point the contrarian has is he is a puppet of the revolutionaries and the calendar council. If you like the liberation of the night and want it to happen asap, then this is the candidate for you.[/spoiler]

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TheThirdPolice
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6/16/2016
"A chicken in every well."
North-Bound MP for Mayor!

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Diptych
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6/16/2016
[spoiler]"Puppet" is putting it rather strongly. He does seem to have some links to the Council. Then again, he also seems to have some links to the Masters. He could be both December and Mr Chimes, for all we know.[/spoiler]

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Grenem
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6/16/2016
Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:
Well, that decides it: Jenny's the only sensible option! The Bishop is a madman, and the Contrarian only stands for "always disagree with everyone else". He'll never get anything done...

He'll get a lot done. Sure, half of it will be the opposite of what the bishop wants, and half of it is the opposite of what jenny wants- both still coherent, of course- but he'll find a way to bundle them all up into one neat little package.

The Jovial Contrarian, the moderate candidate!

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6/16/2016
absimiliard wrote:
I thought Mr. Chimes was [spoiler] a rotating position all the Masters fill at one point or another. [/spoiler]


Yeah, that's probably right. I was exaggerating to make the point that the Contrarian is deliberately enigmatic. He's a contradictory, Chestertonian character. He's mysteries all the way down.

Blaine Davidson wrote:
He's in a wheelchair? When was this revealed about him?


From a Veilgarden party:

The Jovial Contrarian... ...is looking for someone to argue with.

Take a seat next to his wheeled chair. You'd rather debate than dance any day.

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Professor Strix
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6/16/2016
I kinda want to vote on him just because he is the candidate no one will pick, and I think this is quite the point.

He might not be the best choice of mayor, but he surely will be the funniest. He is my favourite guest in the party, if only because he is sports when he looses arguments and he (almost, if you are successful) kills a man just by being annoying. It takes serious skills to kill people with debating hard.

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John Moose
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6/16/2016
How irritating that Failbetter would give us a candidate that actually seems like he'd be good at the job. Now I'm forced to decide between voting for someone that seems to be the best candidate for the job and someone whose campaign platform is essentially "Let's supplex Satan."
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Passionario
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6/16/2016
Blaine Davidson wrote:
He's in a wheelchair? When was this revealed about him?

The Jovial Contrarian bangs on the side of his wheeled chair to emphasise his points. '..but that's exactly what I'm saying! No revolution has ever improved the lot of the people the leaders purport to represent. And even you must have noticed we're in a somewhat exotic environment. How do you think we'll fare down here without the protection of the Masters? Good God, is that the time? You must excuse me, I'm afraid. I have a party to attend...'

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Nigel Overstreet
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6/16/2016
Absintheuse wrote:
‘At last, the chance to prove we are capable of self-governance is in our grasp.’
This seems both fair and democratic. And I will have no part in it!

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Asclepius Unbound
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6/16/2016
Paradoxical democracy: the thinking man's choice.

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mzingalwa
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6/16/2016
I'm a one issue voter and that one issue is "**** hell", so I'll be voting for the bishop.

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Sir Joseph Marlen
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6/16/2016
Professor Sketch wrote:
Dom Scorp wrote:
Professor Sketch wrote:
But he has no colors in his poster. You can't trust a man who doesn't put colors into his poster. How is he ever supposed to keep the color of London alive? Also, no facial hair. I can't tell him and Jenny apart if one of them doesn't get facial hair.

I take it that the lack of colours represents his moral ambiguity, and the grey morality of the Revolutionaries.


Moral ambiguity is nice and all, but what about prettiness? Didn't they ever make him color his pictures in grade school?

Probably not. He'd just keep debating with the teachers which colors would look best without actually coloring anything.

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narcomanic
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6/17/2016
mzingalwa wrote:
I'm a one issue voter and that one issue is "**** hell", so I'll be voting for the bishop.

Funnily enough, my one vote issue can be summed up with essentially the same wording, only with... slightly different emphasis. Let our votes decide!

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Diptych
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6/16/2016
The Contrarian shows up as part of the Affluent Photographer story, in the Veilgarden Party special area, and on the Revolutionaries card. It's also possible to trade with him at the market in Sunless Sea.
edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 6/16/2016

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Grenem
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7/7/2016
The Masked Felon wrote:
The Contrarian is a frivolous, flip-flopping buffoon. As mayor, he'd be unreliable at best.

That being said, he definitely has my vote.

I agree with the frivolous- he has a serious side, but sometimes he doesn't show it well. i agree with the flip-flopping, though you'll note he questions other beliefs, not supports his own in the one time free players see an argument.

he tries to find cracks, not build his own case. He wants better arguments, better beliefs, and the only way to get that is cut at the vulnerabilities of the inferior.

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The Master
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6/16/2016
Well, I guess this is the one im voting for, I don't think I know enough about sinning Jenny to really vote for her, and while I do hate Veils with all my heart, most vake hunters are fools, and they WILL die, and I also don't want a time machine that will bring us back to a war that we can't win.

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absimiliard
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6/16/2016
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Yeah, that's probably right. I was exaggerating to make the point that the Contrarian is deliberately enigmatic. He's a contradictory, Chestertonian character. He's mysteries all the way down.




He is one of my favorite secondary characters. I have many, so he's far from alone. But I deeply love that ability to take both sides of a thing. As I have been known to say "I prefer AND to OR", and the Contrarian ANDs so very well, and quickly, in conversation. It's clear he believes his points when arguing, but can reverse them and argue just as passionately against them. His own position therefor remains unknown -- or has never existed. As you say, mysterious, enigmatic, mysteries all the way down.

I am Curious, first and foremost -- how could I resist that.

Yet, I'll vote against him. Even he can not say which positions he will take, and I fear that Mastering Himself is the farthest thing possible -- he is flux and evolution, constant and unceasing -- the only that never changes is how fast he changes position.

Putting such an uncontrolled, Un-Mastered, individual in power would be foolishness. I should prefer the Black-Shirted Radical to him -- at least we agree on several important points.

So, no, I can not vote for the Jovial Contrarian -- because I love him, and understand him, for cats are mercurial as well.

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Rupho Schartenhauer
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6/16/2016
Well, that decides it: Jenny's the only sensible option! The Bishop is a madman, and the Contrarian only stands for "always disagree with everyone else". He'll never get anything done...

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TheThirdPolice
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6/19/2016
I'd prefer him in Parliament for Prime Minister Question Time, but I welcome his wit in any office.

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timelessparadox
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6/20/2016
Careful, calculated, and confident action is what we need in out mayor. Contrarian for Mayor!

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The Master
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6/16/2016
Beau Mercy wrote:
Revolutionaries are all the same—they spout slogans about freedom, but freedom to what? To be overrun by the forces of Hell? Vote for the Bishop!


I think the chances that Hell will attack us are much higher if someone invades them first.

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knguy
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6/17/2016
I bet the Contrarian would be real fun at the University. If he hasn't been kicked out already. But if that's the case he can just use those mayoral powers to continue infuriating the academics once again.

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Anne Auclair
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6/17/2016
I'm surprised that some of you don't remember the Contrarian. He's one of my favorite characters!

Jovial Contrarian wrote:
'Common sense, Madam, is what tells you the world is flat!'

LOL

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Kylestien
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6/17/2016
Anne Auclair wrote:
The Contrarian also has a cameo in Sunless Sea. He goes shopping at the Roser's Market for longboxes and gets into an extended argument with you concerning your boxes quality, before happily paying the full price. He loves arguing for its own sake. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why he's running, to have lots and lots of arguments. Maybe this is a clever stratagem to hide his true motivations. Maybe this is just how he is. Maybe we'll find out.


Turns out all this time it was a act for his plan to bring Eaten back from the dead.

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Angus Turner
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7/6/2016
Inalynne wrote:
I've been prodding my nose into the Jovial Contrarian's campaign and it seems that he has an interesting connection to The Manager of the Royal Bethlehem. It seems they are plotting, or rather the Manager is coercing him into a plan against the Bazaar. As a newcomer to London I'm not well-versed with the Manager's nor the Contrarian's opinions of the Bazaar, can anyone be so kind as to explain why the Manager has an interest in mingling with revolutionaries? Is he just bored or *spoiler*?

That's a good question. I'm not sure, myself, but here's my take on it. (Spoiler contains spoilers about the revolutionaries and The Manager)
[spoiler]The Contrarian is affiliated with the revolutionaries, and generally opposes the Bazaar's control of London. But as we learn from from his actions in The Affluent Photographer story, he believes that the Bazaar's protection is probably necessary for London's stability in the Neath. From investigating his campaign we know that he opposes, or at least isn't fully supportive of, The Liberation Of Night, a super secret endgame plan of the revolutionaries that will kill the Bazaar but also snuff all light in the Neath and plunge London into an endless night of chaos and anarchy. This is, according to some, a good thing.
What the Manager seems to tell him in the conversation you mentioned is that the Liberation is the only path to freedom, that there is no middle ground between it and subjugation to the Bazaar's will. As to why the Manager should be so interested in the fall of the Bazaar, I'm not sure. He once made a pact with the Bazaar to save his lover's life, which didn't turn out very well for his lover, nor for the Manager, as his lover now blames him for his condition and wants nothing to do with him(also his city was sent to the Neath and then eventually destroyed). Maybe he just holds a grudge, after all the Bazaar did to him. On the other hand, much of what the Manager does seem to be about his desire to get back into his lover's good graces, so perhaps he thinks that ending the Bazaar will do that, as the Bazaar is responsible for what happened to his lover? [/spoiler]

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Leon McCarran
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7/6/2016
Though I do admire and respect the man, I cannot in good conscience vote for someone so intimately involved with the anarchists. Indeed, I've done a little work for them here and there but they always gave me such an uneasy feeling. This is coming from a man who prefers the company of the Rubbery Men and Bohemians. The Anarchists are a literal powder keg just waiting to explode, and I will not provide them the spark.

May Fortune Favor the Bold.

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The Masked Felon
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7/7/2016
The Contrarian is a frivolous, flip-flopping buffoon. As mayor, he'd be unreliable at best.

That being said, he definitely has my vote.
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Rackenhammer
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6/19/2016
I myself will be casting a vote for this Chestertonian figure, if only because he is an homage to one of my all-time favorite authors. Plus, I think him the most level-headed of the bunch, and have a tendency to want to go against the "celebrity favorites." Finally, I just like to have the fellow about, as a debater myself.

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absimiliard
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6/16/2016
I thought Mr. Chimes was [spoiler] a rotating position all the Masters fill at one point or another. [/spoiler]

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Kukapetal
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6/16/2016
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who forgot who he was :P
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Aster Chroniztikcorp
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6/16/2016
Professor Sketch wrote:
But he has no colors in his poster. You can't trust a man who doesn't put colors into his poster. How is he ever supposed to keep the color of London alive? Also, no facial hair. I can't tell him and Jenny apart if one of them doesn't get facial hair.

I take it that the lack of colours represents his moral ambiguity, and the grey morality of the Revolutionaries.

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Gonen
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6/16/2016
Master yourself.
Brilliant slogan!

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The Master
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6/16/2016
Beau Mercy wrote:
The Master wrote:
I think the chances that Hell will attack us are much higher if someone invades them first.


Is it not the case that Hell has already invaded? A fortnight ago I interrupted a devilless attempting to trick a poor orphan into giving up his immortal soul! What will those Revolutionaries do about that?
edited by Beau Mercy on 6/16/2016


I don't think you understand what the devils will be able to do when we do invade, it will be more than just tricking people into selling them their souls im afraid.

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Victoria Astra Ludlow
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6/17/2016
John Moose wrote:
Now I'm forced to decide between voting for someone that seems to be the best candidate for the job and someone whose campaign platform is essentially "Let's supplex Satan."



This! Now I have to decide which is stronger: my hatred for hell or my commitment to the cause. The Neath - dilemma after dilemma after dilemma...
edited by Victoria Astra Ludlow on 6/17/2016

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