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Absintheuse
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6/16/2016
London will have a Mayor. This week, we announce the candidates. Who will you support?
Below is news on our third and final candidate. More news on the Election will come tomorrow.


The Jovial Contrarian was last to declare. He joined the election only a day after publishing a piece denouncing the entire process as an undemocratic sham. He bears the slogan: "Master Yourself!"





“The Jovial Contrarian sits in the midst of the chaos. ‘At last, the chance to prove we are capable of self-governance is in our grasp.’ The Contrarian extends a hand.”


The Jovial Contrarian's campaign poster will be available soon, once he's finished arguing about typefaces with his printer.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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6/16/2016
Well, that decides it: Jenny's the only sensible option! The Bishop is a madman, and the Contrarian only stands for "always disagree with everyone else". He'll never get anything done...

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dov
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6/16/2016
I agree. Jenny is the most sensible, most practical, and definitely the most competent of these three candidates.

Plus, she's actually interesting as a character.

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Grenem
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6/16/2016
Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:
Well, that decides it: Jenny's the only sensible option! The Bishop is a madman, and the Contrarian only stands for "always disagree with everyone else". He'll never get anything done...

He'll get a lot done. Sure, half of it will be the opposite of what the bishop wants, and half of it is the opposite of what jenny wants- both still coherent, of course- but he'll find a way to bundle them all up into one neat little package.

The Jovial Contrarian, the moderate candidate!

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6/16/2016
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NiteBrite
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6/16/2016
[spoiler]The main positive point the contrarian has is he is a puppet of the revolutionaries and the calendar council. If you like the liberation of the night and want it to happen asap, then this is the candidate for you.[/spoiler]

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6/16/2016
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Vavakx Nonexus
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6/16/2016
NiteBrite wrote:
[spoiler]The main positive point the contrarian has is he is a puppet of the revolutionaries and the calendar council. If you like the liberation of the night and want it to happen asap, then this is the candidate for you.[/spoiler]



Uh... what.

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Diptych
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6/16/2016
[spoiler]"Puppet" is putting it rather strongly. He does seem to have some links to the Council. Then again, he also seems to have some links to the Masters. He could be both December and Mr Chimes, for all we know.[/spoiler]

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absimiliard
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6/16/2016
I thought Mr. Chimes was [spoiler] a rotating position all the Masters fill at one point or another. [/spoiler]

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mzingalwa
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6/16/2016
I'm a one issue voter and that one issue is "**** hell", so I'll be voting for the bishop.

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Blaine Davidson
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6/16/2016
He's in a wheelchair? When was this revealed about him?

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Diptych
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6/16/2016
absimiliard wrote:
I thought Mr. Chimes was [spoiler] a rotating position all the Masters fill at one point or another. [/spoiler]


Yeah, that's probably right. I was exaggerating to make the point that the Contrarian is deliberately enigmatic. He's a contradictory, Chestertonian character. He's mysteries all the way down.

Blaine Davidson wrote:
He's in a wheelchair? When was this revealed about him?


From a Veilgarden party:

The Jovial Contrarian... ...is looking for someone to argue with.

Take a seat next to his wheeled chair. You'd rather debate than dance any day.

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Passionario
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6/16/2016
Blaine Davidson wrote:
He's in a wheelchair? When was this revealed about him?

The Jovial Contrarian bangs on the side of his wheeled chair to emphasise his points. '..but that's exactly what I'm saying! No revolution has ever improved the lot of the people the leaders purport to represent. And even you must have noticed we're in a somewhat exotic environment. How do you think we'll fare down here without the protection of the Masters? Good God, is that the time? You must excuse me, I'm afraid. I have a party to attend...'

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The Master
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6/16/2016
Well, I guess this is the one im voting for, I don't think I know enough about sinning Jenny to really vote for her, and while I do hate Veils with all my heart, most vake hunters are fools, and they WILL die, and I also don't want a time machine that will bring us back to a war that we can't win.

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absimiliard
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6/16/2016
Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
Yeah, that's probably right. I was exaggerating to make the point that the Contrarian is deliberately enigmatic. He's a contradictory, Chestertonian character. He's mysteries all the way down.




He is one of my favorite secondary characters. I have many, so he's far from alone. But I deeply love that ability to take both sides of a thing. As I have been known to say "I prefer AND to OR", and the Contrarian ANDs so very well, and quickly, in conversation. It's clear he believes his points when arguing, but can reverse them and argue just as passionately against them. His own position therefor remains unknown -- or has never existed. As you say, mysterious, enigmatic, mysteries all the way down.

I am Curious, first and foremost -- how could I resist that.

Yet, I'll vote against him. Even he can not say which positions he will take, and I fear that Mastering Himself is the farthest thing possible -- he is flux and evolution, constant and unceasing -- the only that never changes is how fast he changes position.

Putting such an uncontrolled, Un-Mastered, individual in power would be foolishness. I should prefer the Black-Shirted Radical to him -- at least we agree on several important points.

So, no, I can not vote for the Jovial Contrarian -- because I love him, and understand him, for cats are mercurial as well.

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An Individual
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6/16/2016
Got to be honest, I have no idea who this guy is. I've met the other candidates and know a fair amount about them.

[spoiler]The bishop shows up in the Labyrinth of Tigers and while Theological Husbandrth expands that slightly anyone whose made it that far will have a good sense of what's what.

Sinning Jenny is also fairly ubiquitous, but specific details, and the really interesting stuff, are part of Ambition: Bag a Legend so a lot of players will only have heard her name around The Parlour of Virtues.

But this guy? If I met him he clearly failed to make an impact.[/spoiler]

I hope there's some in game, assuming this shows up in the game, introduction of these characters to the player base. Because you don't really get to know 2 of them until you hit mid to late(ish) game content and I really have no clue about this last one.

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Diptych
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6/16/2016
The Contrarian shows up as part of the Affluent Photographer story, in the Veilgarden Party special area, and on the Revolutionaries card. It's also possible to trade with him at the market in Sunless Sea.
edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 6/16/2016

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Kukapetal
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6/16/2016
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who forgot who he was :P
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Aster Chroniztikcorp
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6/16/2016
Professor Sketch wrote:
But he has no colors in his poster. You can't trust a man who doesn't put colors into his poster. How is he ever supposed to keep the color of London alive? Also, no facial hair. I can't tell him and Jenny apart if one of them doesn't get facial hair.

I take it that the lack of colours represents his moral ambiguity, and the grey morality of the Revolutionaries.

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