Sir Joseph Marlen
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scarlettbleustar wrote:
DeserterKalak wrote:
So the Bishop's been revealed to have his campaign funded by devils, has anything been discovered about Sinning Jenny that would threaten her position as the anti-vake radical liberal feminist badass candidate?
[spoiler]That she has actually given up all her funding from the Bazaar and is going it alone.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Scarlett~Bleustar?fromEchoId=8982682 - If you want the echo[/spoiler]
Go Jenny!
In case you wanted a vague answer to your question without any specific detail, the answer is no. If anything, it supports it.
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Emain Ablach
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Charming, lethal, free of the Bazaar's influence, doesn't contradict herself and isn't funded by her enemies. I mean, how can people even hesitate when there is only one serious candidate ? The others are jokes.
Jenny for the win !
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Leon McCarran
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While I rather like our Contrarian friend and run in similar circles to him, a fellow of such a... well, contrarian nature, will most likely cause more trouble for London than is worth it. On an intellectual level I quite admire the fellow, but as a Mayor I think it would spell disaster. No, I think in this race I will throw my lot in with the Nun of the Night herself. She may be genuine or she may be a puppet. In her I see the least of three uncomfortable choices.
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DeserterKalak
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7/4/2016
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Excellent. Being as her opponents are a naive, buffoonish god-botherer and a confused, conflicted revolutionary flip-flopper, Jenny is the hero London needs.
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Anne Auclair
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7/4/2016
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DeserterKalak wrote:
Excellent. Being as her opponents are a naive, buffoonish god-botherer and a confused, conflicted revolutionary flip-flopper, Jenny is the hero London needs.
Yes, the lady who literally kisses and then tells (or threatens to, absent a donation) :P
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Grenem
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7/4/2016
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DeserterKalak wrote:
Excellent. Being as her opponents are a naive, buffoonish god-botherer and a confused, conflicted revolutionary flip-flopper, Jenny is the hero London needs.
A blackmailer known for poisoning paying customers? I don't see how that's any better than a revolutionary who wants to get it right the first time, but maybe that's just me. I'll need to do some diging to check he isn't up to no good as well, but at least i don't see blackmail yet.
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Anne Auclair
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7/5/2016
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Emain Ablach wrote:
Charming, lethal, free of the Bazaar's influence, doesn't contradict herself and isn't funded by her enemies. I mean, how can people even hesitate when there is only one serious candidate ? The others are jokes.
Jenny for the win !
It's possible the refusal of Bazaar funds is merely tactical.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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7/5/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Emain Ablach wrote:
Charming, lethal, free of the Bazaar's influence, doesn't contradict herself and isn't funded by her enemies. I mean, how can people even hesitate when there is only one serious candidate ? The others are jokes.
Jenny for the win !
It's possible the refusal of Bazaar funds is merely tactical.
If it were a tactical thing, I'd imagine she'd promote that more into her whole campaign of "free spirit of magnanimous badass-itude". She'd really benefit from commercializing her individuality from the Bazaar since she's already known as looking out for the little guy, but instead she kept it private. I can't be for certain, but it doesn't sound like something tactically done.
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Grenem
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7/5/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Emain Ablach wrote:
Charming, lethal, free of the Bazaar's influence, doesn't contradict herself and isn't funded by her enemies. I mean, how can people even hesitate when there is only one serious candidate ? The others are jokes.
Jenny for the win !
It's possible the refusal of Bazaar funds is merely tactical.
Doesn't contradict herself? her policy is basically "i care about people", and her campaign is funded by blackmail? how is that not a contradiction? Unless her campaign is "I care for the downtrodden", in which case the implict, and real, considering the blackmail, "at the expense of the powerful or even merely less downtrodden", which is a much less compelling campaign.
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Teaspoon
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7/5/2016
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Why is it less compelling?
The wealthy can look after themselves. That's what being rich means.
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Grenem
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7/5/2016
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Teaspoon wrote:
Why is it less compelling?
The wealthy can look after themselves. That's what being rich means.
It's the difference between a lesser mother terresa and a lesser-and-more-moral french revolution, that's why. One tried to help the poor with only what was given willingly, the other tried to take for the poor what they needed from the rich by force.
It's the difference between a saint and a pragmatist, and if it didn't cut into their effectiveness, i'd prefer the saint every time. as it is... i prefer the contrarian- at least he doesn't masquerade as a saint.
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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Grenem wrote:
Teaspoon wrote:
Why is it less compelling?
The wealthy can look after themselves. That's what being rich means.
It's the difference between a lesser mother terresa and a lesser-and-more-moral french revolution, that's why. One tried to help the poor with only what was given willingly, the other tried to take for the poor what they needed from the rich by force.
It's the difference between a saint and a pragmatist, and if it didn't cut into their effectiveness, i'd prefer the saint every time. as it is... i prefer the contrarian- at least he doesn't masquerade as a saint.
edited by Grenem on 7/5/2016
Why should such things be separated, for are they inherently dual in nature? Such are the ideals of the Contrarian, though his stance of right and wrong are most certainly for argument's sake alone. No, there is no reason Jenny could not be both. She has already proven herself a mixture of ideals; a socialite of high class mingling with the downtrodden and poor, a scarlet saint of pleasure and sin that watches over the people of London, even an idealist out for a better London that uses a pragmatic stance on the wealthy to allocate funds for a noble cause. Jenny is many things if not complex, for she is her own spirit rather than an argumentative strawman to be boxed and defined into rigid beliefs. Sinning Jenny is the mayor London deserves! A unique character for a unique city!
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Arzei
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7/5/2016
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The Contrarian has worrying connections to the anarchists and the Bishop would lead us to war. Sinning Jenny is the only option for our fair city.
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Grenem
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7/5/2016
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Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
Grenem wrote:
Teaspoon wrote:
Why is it less compelling?
The wealthy can look after themselves. That's what being rich means.
It's the difference between a lesser mother terresa and a lesser-and-more-moral french revolution, that's why. One tried to help the poor with only what was given willingly, the other tried to take for the poor what they needed from the rich by force.
It's the difference between a saint and a pragmatist, and if it didn't cut into their effectiveness, i'd prefer the saint every time. as it is... i prefer the contrarian- at least he doesn't masquerade as a saint.
edited by Grenem on 7/5/2016
Why should such things be separated, for are they inherently dual in nature? Such are the ideals of the Contrarian, though his stance of right and wrong are most certainly for argument's sake alone. No, there is no reason Jenny could not be both. She has already proven herself a mixture of ideals; a socialite of high class mingling with the downtrodden and poor, a scarlet saint of pleasure and sin that watches over the people of London, even an idealist out for a better London that uses a pragmatic stance on the wealthy to allocate funds for a noble cause. Jenny is many things if not complex, for she is her own spirit rather than an argumentative strawman to be boxed and defined into rigid beliefs. Sinning Jenny is the mayor London deserves! A unique character for a unique city!
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I cannot call her a saint, she's not pure and entirely holy, but she feels like she's pretending to be one when you talk to her. maybe she just rubs me the wrong way the same way the contrarian rubs so many of my rivals the wrong way. I distrust anyone who doesn't show darkness when revealing their brightest light, if i know them to possess such darkness.
She's ruthless where i want her to be trustworthy, and virtous in places that feel fake. Which doesn't mean she's faking, she's probably not... but it's hard to trust that, when the only real charity i've seen from her before this is helping try to kill the vake, and the ruthlessness was something as common as water. If she was more openly ruthless, less saintly, or even just as saintly, i might have swapped sides. but her stances don't... don't feel like they fit together. I don't feel like she has a plan for actually helping the poor.
They showed a new aspect of what was previously a respected but ruthless businesswoman, and while you can believe that people are vast and contain multitudes, it's easier to doubt what she says when she knows who's listening.
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M. Cinder
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7/5/2016
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After much consideration, I suppose I'll be throwing my lots in with Sinning Jenny. Of course, her connections with the Masters is worrying for the future of London, but hells, I live in the Bazaar. The Masters aren't actively malicious when it comes to the downtrodden anyways, excluding Mr. Fires. They're just apathetic.
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Johny Topside
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7/5/2016
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Grenem wrote:
It's the difference between a saint and a pragmatist, and if it didn't cut into their effectiveness, i'd prefer the saint every time. as it is... i prefer the contrarian- at least he doesn't masquerade as a saint.
edited by Grenem on 7/5/2016
Say, if you're looking for a Saint, there is a Bishop running as well, thats basically the next best thing *Subtle is dropping*
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harbourlady
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7/5/2016
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Quick question I am actually embarrassed to ask: As a campaigner for Jenny (is there even another choice?? NO! only Jenny understands the promise and joy of the 'neath!) I'm constantly trading in short stories - what seems weird is that there is apparently an endless supply of them, because the option hasn't locked for me yet. I'm trying to find where on the 'myself' tab I can find the little buggers so that I can see if I was just REALLY ambitious at some point, or if it's a glitch - can someone point me in the right direction?
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Màiread
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7/5/2016
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Your short stories are lumped in with your curiosity items. Are you playing on the app? I was getting a bug where my short story wasn't being consumed, but it's working normally for me now.
ETA: also, good work my fellow petal! Jenny for mayor!
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IgnatuStone
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7/6/2016
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Honestly I just find Sinning Jenny boring. She's not going to be able to change very much. Meanwhile if the bishop or the contrarian win we'll notice. It'll be hellfire and revolution with them. London may not change for the better, but it'll sure as heck be interesting.
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harbourlady
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thanks, I was using the app - it finally caught up with reality (something I never recommend) and stopped sending me in an endless loop of trying to trade the same short story yet again...
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