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An Individual
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6/8/2016


Now there's a button that demands to be clicked!

I just received my "A Bad End" and there's a bunch of information flying around right now so I figured it might be helpful to people if I collected what I knew so far in one place.

So Seeking Mr Eaten's Name has returned and from what I've been reading it sounds like any worries about defanging have been largely exaggerated. I was still relatively new when it was originally retired but I've been eager to jump in since I learned of it's existence (from the retirement letter). First up in the list of things we know.

Unaccountably Peckish

It's now a pretty terrible menace. Each point seems to add an undiscardable card to your deck (I'm not sure of the number where this stops being true) where all the options do terrible things to you in exchange for discarding a single point (the static storylet to discard all UP is gone). These cards also have options which are locked if you have Marsh-Mired in Dreams of Sustenance (MMiDoS) and grant that quality in addition to a single point of Seeking Mr Eaten's Name (SMEN). As with the other options, these options tend to be... not nice. Once you have MMiDoS you can't pick these options again until Time the Healer will remove the quality. These options appear to be the cheapest way to advance SMEN in the early stages (with some exceptions) although they require patience.

There is also an option to get SMEN if you don't have it when Seeking Curios in the Forgotten Quarter. It's only available at certain higher airs numbers and requires Nightmares 5 and (I believe) Scholar of the Correspondence.

Gaining "A Bad End"

After gaining my first point of SMEN I drew a card called "An Alphabet of Scars" which unlocked at SMEN exactly 1 and Scholar of the Correspondence anything. This gives you two pretty straight forward options (not the two above), one warning you that you really shouldn't pick it. So, of course, I did. I'll admit to being pretty nervous about that as I'm SotC 21. This gave me +2 SMEN at the cost of a small boost to Wounds and Nightmares and about 1/5 of a level of Persuasive and Dangerous. I was then sent to the storylet you see above where I sealed my fate.

I'm not sure if this is the only way to get "A Bad End". Given the specificity of the lock I'm assuming that if there are other options I will no longer be able to see them. This is what I know so far. I hope some of you found it helpful.
edited by An Individual on 6/9/2016

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ExceptionallyDelicious
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6/8/2016
Apparently the candles are up again as well. I just received an opportunity card titled "St. Beau's Candle" in my deck and am too scared to do anything with it.

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Mr. Secrets
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6/9/2016
Oh Goodness, the candles return?

I do hope a powerful seeker appears and shares their quest with the rest of us, until we can join them ourselves.

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An Individual
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6/8/2016
The Master wrote:
I know this isn't really on topic...but where does that "And do not click this link" go to?



Click here and find out. If you dare.

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suinicide
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6/9/2016
Why does it only get rid of 5 of the candles?

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TheThirdPolice
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6/9/2016
Unlikely source, indeed. The surviving Masters should just hire urchins to lurk around dentists' offices and puff bellows in the face of tooth thieves.

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An Individual
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6/9/2016
I can confirm that the Unaccountable Peckish card Marsh Mired options increase SMEN once TTH has cleared the Marh Mired quality. I've updated the first post to reflect this. Still no sign of the ACE OF HUNGERS though.

I wonder if it was removed because you could basically squat at UP 1 and slowly grind up SMEN at a low cost every week without having to deal with the nastier cards like the TWO OF BATS. As it stands it seems the cheapest way to gain SMEN is to use a Starveling Cat to crank up your Unaccountably Peckish, wait for a Marsh Mired option that doesn't hurt too much, then tank UP again by Taking Refreshments at the Labyrinth of Tigers until Time the Healer clears your Marsh Mired and repeat. I guess we'll see how long that works though. The UP cards probably have a cap.

EDIT: Never mind, just drew the ACE OF HUNGERS again. Requirements remain unchanged. I'm guessing someone was messing around in the back end and accidentally triggered the discard by changing the requirements or something.
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An Individual
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6/9/2016
an_ocelot wrote:
I am told that the options on The Seeking Road each advance SMEN one level, so the Appalling Secrets one is the cheapest by far if you have very high Watchful.


What level of SMEN do you need for that option? At the moment I can only halve my Watchful or my Scholar of the Correspondence. At the moment I'm hoping that I can keep my UP at 1 and us the ACE OF HUNGERS to boost my SMEN once a week. Not keen of having to halve maxed stats right away.

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The Master
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6/8/2016
An Individual wrote:
The Master wrote:
I know this isn't really on topic...but where does that "And do not click this link" go to?



Click here and find out. If you dare.


Well, that was a dissapointment, oh well.

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aegisaglow
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6/9/2016
So does anyone know what's the easiest way to get that "opt you out of all Mr Eaten content permanently" card? Because I would very much like to opt out of all Mr Eaten content permanently at my earliest convenience.

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An Individual
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6/9/2016
aegisaglow wrote:
So does anyone know what's the easiest way to get that "opt you out of all Mr Eaten content permanently" card? Because I would very much like to opt out of all Mr Eaten content permanently at my earliest convenience.


If you just tank Unaccoutably Peckish it will leave you alone. If you really want the permanent opt out though get to SMEN 1 then await the card mentioned in the first post and follow the option it warns you against and it will take you to that screen. It's worth noting that this will end up hitting some of your stats and things so just tanking UP might be the better option.

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Faey
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6/9/2016
KNAVE OF REGRETS (Unaccountably Peckish 8) offers an option to end your quest for the Name at the cost of 1 Aeolian Scream and 100 Jade Fragments (Requires Connected: Urchins 10). I lost 1 level of Connected: Urchins (dropped from 21 to 20). Note: I had not yet started seeking, so I don't know if there are more consequences for using this after starting.

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