Kylestien
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6/8/2016
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Greetings.
So, first off, I wish to say this: personally, I have no interest in seeking the name. However, last I checked the person I married in FL does. He's a good friend, and being a supportive significant other, I wish to aid him on his foolish and self desctructive quest should he wish to do it and wants my help (Although i have of course asked him not to persue this since as we all know it is a self destructive effort). Abandoning him, not helping him, or trying to talk him out of it if he wants to is not a option unlless he does not wish my help, so do not suggest that (Except in jest of course XD )
So some advice on how I can best support him on this fool's errard would be appreciated.
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Alexis Kennedy
Posts: 1374
6/8/2016
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out. There is also the very serious and real possibility that, once he is no longer employees by Failbetter, Alexis will be free to complete the final level of Seeking the Name: Coming to your house and destroying all your possessions with a cricket bat.
This was in fact the original plan, but I've lost my cricket bat.
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Alexis Kennedy
Posts: 1374
6/8/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
At a meta level I would agree Kylestien. There's got to be no way FBG would punish someone for marrying a Seeker, it would be a horrible design decision on the basis of player retention. If my spouse ate my character I would assuredly be done with this game, quite permanently. Allowing one to inflict such things on oneself is awesome, inflicting them on someone without Explicit Consent . . . they wouldn't do that.
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Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out.
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Nigel Overstreet
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6/8/2016
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out. There is also the very serious and real possibility that, once he is no longer employees by Failbetter, Alexis will be free to complete the final level of Seeking the Name: Coming to your house and destroying all your possessions with a cricket bat.
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Alexis Kennedy
Posts: 1374
6/8/2016
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Kylestien: my advice is to dissuade them from Seeking, and divorce them immediately if they don't.
malthaussen: definitely not teeth, pls
Jermaine: all of them.
and future plans: I've got some freelance work probably lined up that I hope to be able to talk about soon. Then I have a long list of other games I want to make. @alexiskennedy on Twitter is generally where I'll talk about or link to talking about stuff, if you're interested!
Cheers all. I'm off home now but it has been delightful seeing the reaction to this storyline coming out of hibernation. I've been as impatient for it as anyone, for a long time now.
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Alexis Kennedy
Posts: 1374
6/8/2016
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Kylestien: Allegedly, all shall be well and all manner of thing
an_ocelot: thank you! don't worry about me; I'm really looking forward to the next n months. Watch the space.
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Spacemarine9
Posts: 2234
6/8/2016
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ｅａｔ your ｔｅｅｔｈ
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
6/9/2016
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Kylestien: Allegedly, all shall be well and all manner of thing
an_ocelot: thank you! don't worry about me; I'm really looking forward to the next n months. Watch the space.
I'll train my telescope on the space between the stars.
Kylestien: Imagine you are married to a cocaine fiend. If you insist on enabling their habit, don't be surprised when people ignore your protests and try to convince you otherwise. I, however, am the first Seeker who will succeed, so instead I request that you transfer your oaths to me and immediately hand over your teeth.
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
Posts: 1372
6/8/2016
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out. But you know we love you for it.
(Thank you, but take care of yourself!)
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
6/8/2016
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Remember when he was threatening to push the button to activate the rats of glory? I think we should worry about that again.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
6/8/2016
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
absimiliard wrote:
At a meta level I would agree Kylestien. There's got to be no way FBG would punish someone for marrying a Seeker, it would be a horrible design decision on the basis of player retention. If my spouse ate my character I would assuredly be done with this game, quite permanently. Allowing one to inflict such things on oneself is awesome, inflicting them on someone without Explicit Consent . . . they wouldn't do that.
edited by absimiliard on 6/8/2016
Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out.
If I give you a offering of M_____'s B____d can you NOT do a spouse eating thing on your way out ? I was saving it from a copy of he crimson book but that option did not come round and if I can ensure the safety of marriage from your wrathful exit I'd glady give it. XD
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Jermaine Vendredi
Posts: 588
6/8/2016
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Just wondering -- is that the front feet or the back feet? Because, you know, tiger...
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
6/9/2016
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In all seriousness, I'm giving you silly answers because I don't really know what New Seeking entails yet. You'll likely get better answers in a week, and beyond as the story progresses. For now, just be prepared for Menace reduction requests, and follow Estelle's advice.
I do disagree with the "bitter end" part though — there is no such thing as a sunk cost fallacy without the fallacy. If the cost becomes greater than your spouse is willing to pay, the correct move is to drop out. The only difference is that this quest promises to push the cost upward without limit, so if your spouse values ANYTHING in the game more than Seeking, continuing in the hopes that they'll keep it is a very risky gamble.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
6/9/2016
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TheThirdPolice wrote:
In all seriousness, I'm giving you silly answers because I don't really know what New Seeking entails yet. You'll likely get better answers in a week, and beyond as the story progresses. For now, just be prepared for Menace reduction requests, and follow Estelle's advice.
I do disagree with the "bitter end" part though — there is no such thing as a sunk cost fallacy without the fallacy. If the cost becomes greater than your spouse is willing to pay, the correct move is to drop out. The only difference is that this quest promises to push the cost upward without limit, so if your spouse values ANYTHING in the game more than Seeking, continuing in the hopes that they'll keep it is a very risky gamble.
Fair enough. i appreciate the advice all of you have given, and hope for more advice when we know more. To those seeking I wish you luck, and to those not I applaud your common sense. (:
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
6/9/2016
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Thanks for the advice all those who gave advice.
Alexis: Divorce is not a option for me alas. I wish to support him in his madness but no go after it myself. If he needs a boat to go North I will captain it, if he needs a feast at midnight I will be the guy who goes to the butcher and pays double, if he tries to devour me I'll hit him with a stick till he decides not to and find some random vicar somewhere for him instead like I did with my plant. (:
although I would like to know if locking myself out of seeking means I cannot help him in any way. Like I said I have no desire to seek but if I can't help him if I lock myself out of it I will gladly allow the extra cards in my hands. /:
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Spacemarine9
Posts: 2234
6/8/2016
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its allowable to do both
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The Master
Posts: 804
6/8/2016
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Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Nigel Overstreet wrote:
Alexis Kennedy wrote:
Your reasoning is sound, but omits one important point: I'm only at Failbetter for another five working days, and basically, everyone else in the office has drawn their desks back to the other side of the room while I snarl obscenities and type with my feet. I don't know what damage I might do on my way out. There is also the very serious and real possibility that, once he is no longer employees by Failbetter, Alexis will be free to complete the final level of Seeking the Name: Coming to your house and destroying all your possessions with a cricket bat.
This was in fact the original plan, but I've lost my cricket bat.
You can always use your feet instead.
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No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
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absimiliard
Posts: 759
6/8/2016
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Oh be-fezzed Tiger, I have the utmost confidence that even your feet would never violate such a trust.
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Estelle Knoht
Posts: 1751
6/8/2016
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Set up an alt on Heart's Desire, grind Cryptic Clue, spam your main with Coins thefts, grind First City Coins and feed your dear friend.
Send Mysterious Packages whenever possible. Rats bag are also a good choice because it is 1 Echo with no action cost for your friend.
More importantly, tell him there is no point in dipping his toes in. Either see it to the bitter end no matter what or just don't get started, because giving up is the worst situation possible in SMEN no matter what - sunk cost fallacy without the fallacy, you see. Even if it cost a marriage.
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absimiliard
Posts: 759
6/8/2016
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I feel for you Kylestien.
My particular friend and I have agreed to not Seek, for now. However everything I'm hearing is soo very tempting -- and she is as curious as I.
But with our circumstances so different I fear all I can offer is this: Talk often and deeply, then you can learn better the prices he must pay, and help him pay them if possible. I hear there are many menaces involved, perhaps you can help bear some of those. I fear I've no other ideas to impart.
{edit: I do not think I could give up a marriage Estelle, if that's a price then I ought never Seek -- though I suppose one could then re-marry and enjoy the wedding preparations a second time, so perhaps I might consider it.}
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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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Menace reduction like whoa.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
6/8/2016
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lady ciel wrote:
absimiliard
Just saw your edit above - if that option does appear in this version of Seeking I would suggest a temporary divorce rather than sacrificing the marriage to seeking. At least with the NPC spouses you get a quality that prevents you marrying them again. Player marriage wasn't an option then so who knows what the affect of Seeking will be on a spouse.
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part of the reason I expect this no longer a option. For one thing eating your player spouse would mean they would be dead, which would mean your account would be deactivated. And that would suck and open all sorts of trolly options.
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I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
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absimiliard
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6/8/2016
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OMG. EAT YOUR SPOUSE?!?!?!?!!!!
Pardon my French but F*** NO!
Not even if there isn't any effect on their account, which there really couldn't be, that's seriously trollish as you noted Kylestien.
Just NO.
OMG NO.
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