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Mizadil
Mizadil
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6/8/2016
I just drew the ACE OF HUNGERS card, and am now seeking Mr. Eaten's name. It seems that at long last, this storyline has been unlocked!
edited by Mizadil on 6/8/2016

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bjorntfh
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6/13/2016
As the one on the Island... I regret nothing. All the Nothing I got reaching this point, and all the Nothing I will bring to you. Someday I will look back on this and weep, but for now I will eat cake, drink and accept that this is how things are now. I have burned 3 years of work, but this is what I am. I am the UrSeeker and I shall prevail.
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Passionario
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7/12/2017


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Spacemarine9
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6/30/2016
This is probably of interest to the sorts hanging around this thread; a giant memoir I wrote containing four years of Seeking, complete with Words, Pictures and At Least One Gif.
(there's also a slightly-wonky version on Tumblr if you want to show how hip with the times you are by reblogging it or whatever they do these days)

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Parabuteo
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8/28/2016


every day on this rock i pray for the sweet release of oblivion

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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016

help

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Optimatum
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3/9/2017
BOOM



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Spacemarine9
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6/15/2016
lol if you think that hasn't happened already

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Sara Hysaro
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6/13/2016
I'm conflating goals by using the Fidgeting Writer to get Searing Enigmas for Mr Eaten. Cash and progress, all in one! It's not the efficient thing to do, nor is it the fast thing to do, but it's the thing I've decided to do. I'll also be converting the Cryptic Clues I get through cards to hopefully move at a slightly less glacial pace as I prepare to burn all of the Searing Enigmas.

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Kirr
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6/15/2016
Seekers will be familiar with this final, beautiful passage of Eliot, but I thought I'd post it anyway as it's topical:

Every phrase and every sentence is an end and a beginning,
Every poem an epitaph. And any action
Is a step to the block, to the fire, down the sea's throat
Or to an illegible stone: and that is where we start.
We die with the dying:
See, they depart, and we go with them.
We are born with the dead:
See, they return, and bring us with them.
[...]
Quick now, here, now, always--
A condition of complete simplicity
(Costing not less than everything)
And all shall be well and
All manner of thing shall be well
When the tongues of flames are in-folded
Into the crowned knot of fire
And the fire and the rose are one.

T.S. Eliot, "Little Gidding"
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Alexis Kennedy
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6/18/2016
Mr Eaten gets an extended shout-out in my Eurogamer column this month:

http://weatherfactory.biz/embed-the-ending-in-the-middle-or-crush-it-up-and-stir-it-into-the-rest-of-the-game/
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Nigel Overstreet
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6/13/2016
Sara Hysaro wrote:
It's not the efficient thing to do, nor is it the fast thing to do, but it's the thing I've decided to do.
This might be the most beautiful thing I've ever read.

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Passionario
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9/30/2016
I think I need a new compass.



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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016
Y'see, this card is basically a heirloom, introduced to the mortal world by a social action from Mr Eaten himself. It has passed through fire and flame; catalysed unfortunate events; been duplicated; seen its cloned brothers and sisters dissolve like snow. As far as calling cards go, this is The Card; another Mr Eaten's Calling Card exists out there, procured from the deep archives of St Cyriac's College; identical in every other way to this card, but much less steeped in history

basically i dont want to charge blindly into this option, wasting this three-year-old Calling Card because I had no idea what to expect on the other side.



but even in spite of that, it's still very tempting to click on it. It's right there!

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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8/14/2016
I have gone NORTH.

I hope you will indulge me in a reminiscence, because I'm feeling shaken for reasons I will get to, and I hope this will be cathartic. I'm putting this behind a spoiler cut just for length; nothing is revealed that FBG has asked not to be revealed (except one extremely tiny content-free mechanics note). All the mechanics that I've experienced, I've put on the wiki, as best I could.

[spoiler]I started new Seeking at Seeking 8 and with St Destin's Candle, which was a gift during old Seeking; back then, I'd managed to misclick and lose St Arthur & Beau's (and never had Cerise's), but I still had my Scars, Stains, and Chains.

I used Appalling Secrets to advance to level 25, after hearing about Winking Isle and then that the endgame was rendering your character unplayable; I dithered a bit whether to go the slow route, maybe wait until the Ambitions were done, but the prospect of taking Cider NORTH and seeing what happened, and of genuinely starting a new character fresh (I can't run alts, my brain doesn't work that way), was too tempting. The worst of that process was failing to advance to level 20 (a 41% chance) a full six times; Hesperidean Cider was a big help, because I could Gawp at the Hyena to reduce my Nightmares and then heal my Wounds, I didn't need to grind second chances and ask for help with Nightmares.

I got St Arthur's Candle without trouble. Beau's was a little trickier, because (a) I forgot to check what I needed to bring and then (b) discovered that the critical option was locked because of a leftover quality from getting the candle previously, so I had to wait around until the lovely FBG people could fix that for me. Cerise's was not notable; afterward I sacrificed my Ubergoat to get to level 29 because what I had on hand was that or my Daughter in the Shadows, and I didn't want to commit human sacrifice.

Then I did my pending Exceptional Friend stories and had the Cider party before I went to Winking Isle. Cleverly, in my Winking Isle fire sale I forgot that I needed seven Searing Enigmas to gain Mr Eaten's Calling Card, so I had to convert the single Trade Secret I had lying around and then sell some more stuff, buy Cryptic Clues, convert them up, and head to the University: where I got all six Enigmas I needed on the first try, a minor consolation from the RNG. I already had the God's Editors card in hand, so I "failed," got the Calling Card, and headed out.

I did the full Preparations at Winking Isle so that I could know what they were (and update the wiki); for the same reasons, I chose to give up everything in the Nadir and sacrifice myself for St Gawain's Candle. It was fairly uneventful, except that I misclicked more than once in the Chapel of Lights and left before I was ready, which was vastly annoying.

(My favorite Candles are probably a tie between St Beau's, which was revelatory back in the day and is still amazing, and St Eruzlie's, which is surprisingly lovely.)

After I managed to get to Seeking 77 (with more wasted time because I forgot that the +7 option locks at Seeking 70, and therefore gathered 60K Fasting & Meditating at Seeking 72), I came back to the Fifth City for last preparations. I'd previously bought Phosphorescent Scarabs with my Winking Isle fire sale proceeds, because I figured I should bring something thematically appropriate with me, I'd chosen to Grieve, and I could convert those up to Mourning Candles. I did the math and found that I could get well over 6K Candles by selling everything except the Hesperidean Cider, and after waffling a bit, decided I would take the couple-three weeks to grind the rest and bring a numerically satisfying 7,777 Mourning Candles, the Hesperidean Cider, and nothing else with me. (Well, nothing else that I could dispose of. There are a lot of things that I couldn't, but I transferred everything transferrable and gave up my Connected: pet, so I did the best I could.)

Anyway, I ended up with 6,371 Mourning Candles from selling everything and upconverting, and managed to upconvert another 270 along the way from high-profit enterprises like the Nadir and Cider cards. By happy chance, the remaining amount divided perfectly by 8, so earlier today I was able to get exactly to 7,777 from the Affair of the Box with none left over. I sold everything, took a screenshot, and then headed for the Seeking Road to do Final Preparations.

(And then came back to the Bazaar because I forgot I needed Rostygold to set out to Zee. Whoops.)

I was kind of discombobulated to discover that Final Preparations apparently sets you to Approaching Journey's End 10; or, at least, I automatically drew and played a card and then said "What?" when I looked at the result. So I was able to go NORTH faster than I expected.

I can't actually blame that discombobulation for what happened next, though. I had open FL and three other tabs--my profile, to make sure I was echoing things; the wiki; and my personal notes--and was moving between all three to make sure that everything was being updated as I went, very slowly and deliberately. Then I hit the "Past this point is mystery" storylet, closed down the now-unneeded tabs, and settled in for a careful thorough savoring of the ending . . .

. . . and then, somehow, I swear I do not know how, I clicked the wrong thing when I was asked for the final time what my Question was.

I'm still ridiculously upset about it? I don't care about Salt! I don't play Sunless Sea, I don't know Salt at all, I planned to Grieve and I went to considerable trouble to bring an appropriate token with me to symbolize that, and . . . Salt.

So, Seekers: be super-extra-careful about that last question.

Oh, and there's nothing unlocked with Cider, not that I expected there would be.

I do really love Seeking, the writing is amazing and I'm very glad to have done it. I'm just going to need a little while to get over my own error, here.[/spoiler]

As I mentioned under the cut, I am starting over with a new character, who is in my signature; in a little while I may change my forum name to reflect that as well. (I started her during the Election, just to get the items, but until a few minutes ago she didn't even have Lodgings.) I'm genuinely looking forward to experiencing all the changes to early content fresh, and I hope to see you all in this new incarnation.

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NiteBrite
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6/18/2016
[spoiler]"Fallen London, notoriously, has almost no gameplay. It's all story."

I'd have to disagree somewhat on this point. It might be true there's not a lot of inherent gameplay, but to say there's little to no gameplay at all is misleading. It's like looking at a deck of playing cards and saying all there is to these cards is the complex story its art tells, no one will do anything with these playing cards other than wonder what relationship the one eyed jack has with the king of hearts. But in reality, the amount of games people use cards for are near infinite.

Fallen london is a game -themed- around being a card deck. And while you might say that the rules it gives players on how they can interact with these cards are mild at best or barely present in the greater story, you are missing a lot if you don't think the players are making their own rules on top of the existing ones. I'm sure you've at least heard of the concept "the game within the game". People often look at the things I do and question if I'm even playing Fallen London at all anymore or a game of my own mad imagination. But I am playing cards (fallen london), its just the variety I'm playing is NiteBrite's game (texas hold'em). This way of playing isn't unique to me either. Fallen London isn't a story, it's a deck of cards.

Hallowmas last year (1893) was a prime example of players getting together to enjoy the 'game within the game'. The highest rewards were set at 500 spirit, and you only needed like 50 new contacts on a regular/yearly basis to get that. But we had over 300 people participate in our game. Many people got over 1000 spirit on their first year. But did the lack of inherent/internal gameplay reasons for getting this level of spirit cause folks to forsake this type of play? No, in fact people were already making plans to aim for 2000+ spirit the next year, because the game we made out of and on top of the game that is fallen london was totally enjoyable, even if it did have its flaws.

Look beyond the pictures on the cards. See the games we make and play.[/spoiler]

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Cinnabar
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Posts: 22

6/14/2016
I lurked on the IRC for a while yesterday to find out what was going on, the suffering was real. SMEN is quite beautiful in its way; a spiritual, albeit depraved, quest that involves giving up worldly concerns.

Of course that can't be the same as simply having nothing, or leaving your character to be neglected or destroyed, as players often do when they eventually tire of a game. Seeking forces your character to actively acquire a great deal of worldly possessions first, through serious investment of the player's own time, and possibly money, and then experience discarding or destroying them in an instant, in pursuit of knowledge which will almost certainly do them no good. This is easier if one is philosophic but most games, especially browser games, are designed to encourage the acquisitive and competitive parts of our natures; witness the prestige gained by owning obscure objects or qualities. Here the competition is to destroy your character, but you have to actively participate in its downfall while being warned against it; a digital martyrdom.

I can't think of any other gaming experience like it. I hope that when the first Seekers reach the eventual conclusion, they discover the revelation they desire, but that what is sacrificed is gone for ever. And that, whatever pleas others make, they keep the revelation to themselves.

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Koh Kai Ying
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6/9/2016
As quite a newcomer I made an mistake and thought it said All Alexis's children were spawned for sacrifice.

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Teaspoon
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Posts: 866

8/26/2017
Mr Eaten arrives on the tenth day of Neathmas.

You know what the tenth day of Christmastide is? The Feast of the Holy Name.

Man, I bet Alexis was laughing so hard when he wrote that.

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NiteBrite
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6/14/2016
It's kind of strange for me, seeing people suffer with SMEN. The things it asks and does and takes just don't seem to bother me at all. It's like, I've already been doing these kinds of things myself and to my characters for years and years. I practically invented playing under a geas haha. Even full deletion couldn't stop me at this point.

Somehow, I kind of wish there will be an option unlocked by scorched by the sun that's like 'ah yes, we've been expecting you NiteBrite' but that's just wishful thinking.
edited by NiteBrite on 6/14/2016

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An Individual
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6/14/2016
You guys remember when everyone was concerned that Seeking would be defanged when it came back. Those were the days. So careless. So free.

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An Individual
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8/25/2017
Look upon my work, ye mighty, and despair! The gate has opened once more and Gary the Betrayed has joined the names in the well. This marks the end of my Seeking. I have Hated, Grieved, and asked about Salt. My main account even turned back at the edge. There are no more paths unwalked.

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Optimatum
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8/10/2018
incerteza wrote:
Another funny thing, letters are delivered even to to those gone North. Neath postmen are that cool.



NO WORD LOST

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NiteBrite
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7/1/2016
Schedule a party date where you invite all of your friends, forums or otherwise, to say their goodbyes with a shower of rats. Make a special thread for it, post about it on social media, dare people to send you rats. Say you doubt they could even send that many in just one day. Laugh madly as your account rapidly becomes buried in rats. Scream to the heavens that it's not enough rats. It will never be enough. Then give thanks to friends past and present and nyoom off into the Zee.

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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016
i have done terrible things

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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016
I will consider myself fortunate if I ever manage to sleep again.

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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016
there is a hell i have seen it

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Spacemarine9
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6/13/2016
What you need for Winking Isle is nothing.
Nothing at all, approximately.
This isn't very easy.

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Alexis Kennedy
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6/10/2016
(boom)


(how many people actually have one? I have limited access to the DB these days)
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Dr Cop
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10/3/2016
It is done. I will not be returning.

I've played Fallen London obsessively for about 18 months. It has been wonderful. No experience in gaming has felt as momentous as these last few days on the seeking road. I don't think it's likely that any will again.

And now it is done. I will miss Fallen London, but as deeply invested as I am in this universe, all things must come to an end. And NORTH is as good a place to end them as any.

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The Master
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6/8/2016
Kylestien wrote:
So, I'm in a bit of a dilemma with this now.

I have no desire to seek. However, my significant other in FL does, and I wish to support him in his foolish errand. WHAT DO?


Tell them not to seek, beg them, do not let them seek, it only leads to suffering and death.

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absimiliard
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Posts: 759

6/26/2016
NiteBrite wrote:
But 2 goats man. 2 goats, how cool would that be Braaaaghhh.


Fixed that for you! ;P
edited by absimiliard on 6/26/2016

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Alexis Kennedy
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Posts: 1374

6/10/2016
All shall be well


and all manner of thing shall be well.
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Asclepius Unbound
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8/30/2016
I reported it before coming to the end of all things, and the response indicated that it is indeed a bug.

Thanks for the good wishes. It's been a great six years.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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Posts: 1368

6/13/2016
There, there. Tell us about it, you'll feel better.

Tell us ALL about it. Now. Don't wait.

You'll feel better when you do.

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NiteBrite
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6/16/2016
Its kind of a missed opportunity that go north on seeking road doesn't lock with needing exactly 77 smen. Like, imagine the dread of worrying you might overshoot 77 accidentally and then get locked out forever unable to lower your progress.

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mayexist
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Posts: 132

7/7/2016
[spoiler]
Side effects of decapitation may include:



(How long is that in real time? I'm glad you asked. 40858 years.)
[/spoiler]

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Guy Scrum
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6/26/2016
NiteBrite wrote:
Important question: I have like 3 years worth of life goals left for my character, but now that SMEN is back I just want to go NORTH while its still fresh and new. I'm wondering if I should fate rush (expensively) 3 years of plans into like a month or if I should just drop everything and go now, restarting these plans on an alt who would take like 7 years to do these same things instead of 3.


I don't know about for you, but for most people I'd say that it's not worth it to spend thousands of dollars to increment some counters that most people will never see (in the case of goals 2 and 3, anyways) and that won't net you any new content. But you, well, you're not most people. You're not even most people in a well. So maybe go for it? A dollar might be less important to you than it is to me, and in-character Fallen London goals are surely much more important for you than they are for me.

For everyone else, it's probably better to not let seeking put you in the real-life poor house. Remember, it is just a game after all.

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Guy Scrum
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6/15/2016
Light a candle, light a taper, step down, step down
Watch your heel crush, crush, uh-oh
This means no fear, cavalier, winking isle's getting near
A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies!
Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives, and I decline

(I'm now at SMEN 23 with an old St. C's candle and material for one taper, plus a bunch of proscribed materials, enigmas, and a classic short story. I think that means I've got everything I need to get to the Isle; I've just got to draw St. Cyriac's. I'm unreasonably excited. I'm also going to have that song stuck in my head all day.)

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Optimatum
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10/2/2016
Saint Arthur clearly represents spacemarine9 and his increased influence over the Neath now that he works at Failbetter wink
edited by Optimatum on 10/2/2016

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Optimatum
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11/24/2017
One and a half years, seven Fluke-Cores, and one Cider later... I finally have one additional point of BDR.

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bjorntfh
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Posts: 216

6/14/2016
Seeking costs everything. I'm going to have to make a new character after this.
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6/13/2016
I gave space the card because I trust his judgement in theses matters, and I encourage you all to do the same.

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9/22/2016
Argh!

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The Dark Gentleman
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6/15/2016
...I have achieved the First. Arthur. On the last day of Alexis...

  • edited by The Dark Gentleman on 6/15/2016

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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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    7/24/2016
    By the way, I accidentally unequipped My Own Severed Head sometime in the last 24 hours (probably when a downward-scroll flick was misinterpreted as a tap), and nothing happened. I re-equipped, un-equipped, and re-equipped again just now to test, and the only thing that happened is that the Seeking Road options that require St Gawain's Candle locked because equipping it gives you the quality.

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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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    7/14/2016
    The explanation you want is "Give up your solitude" on QUEEN OF INKS, the description of which is:

    (You can take the candle. But I can't give it up. All I am left is its watcher. Take it, and you take me too. You'll never be alone again.)

    And the success text is:

    (I love you)

    (You imagined me. What else could I do but love you?)

    I actually find her presence quite lovely.

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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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    7/1/2016
    that sounds . . . suited to someone else . . . ?

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    Spacemarine9
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    Posts: 2234

    6/13/2016
    While you're not entirely wrong, patience is the one quality any true Seeker has in spades.

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    Spacemarine9
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    6/13/2016
    i am paralysed in terror and am unable to click the button

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    Spacemarine9
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    6/25/2016
    that is definitely among the directions i have gone

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    Sara Hysaro
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    6/14/2016
    You get entertainment back.

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    Asclepius Unbound
    Asclepius Unbound
    Posts: 389

    8/29/2016
    It is finished.

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    Alexis Kennedy
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    6/9/2016
    Spacemarine9 wrote:
    Alexis Kennedy wrote:
    In seriousness - in actual seriousness - the clue I mentioned earlier is nothing earthshaking. It'll just make life a bit easier, or at least calculabler. Anyway, I'm shortly going to put St Cerise live, post an image that will cause a certain amount of resigned muttering, watch an ep of the Leftovers and hit the sack. Thank you all for your genuinely delightful company!


    Whoa, dude, chill, this is your most cryptic post to date. I have no idea what any of these words mean.



    Sorry! This should clarify.

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    Alexis Kennedy
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    6/10/2016
    bjorntfh wrote:
    Let me just say, "Thank you for Everything Alexis."

    It means so much to me, and we'll always have Paris, won't we.



    But I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of a few people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world.
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    Nigel Overstreet
    Nigel Overstreet
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    6/9/2016
    bjorntfh wrote:
    It's rewarding. I'm now at 24. And I have spent almost 20k Echoes so far!
    Eaten is hitting The Masters where it hurts: The destruction of capital.

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    Passionario
    Passionario
    Posts: 776

    3/3/2017
    Seeking result: Name not found.


    edited by Passionario on 3/3/2017

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    11/10/2016


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    Passionario
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    7/14/2017
    Speaking of math, the Seeking Road gets rather... interesting at higher levels:




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    TheThirdPolice
    TheThirdPolice
    Posts: 606

    6/13/2016
    "Finally! I've spent ages asking for a bite to eat. Now I can use my creepy dream powers to write the cooking blog I've always wanted."

    All Seeking Master Eaten's Name qualities in the game are replaced by Hi Fans! Check Out My Recipe for Poppy Seed Crumpets with Lingonberry Jam.

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    tsukinofaerii
    tsukinofaerii
    Posts: 56

    8/25/2016
    I've come to the conclusion that Winking Isle is quite literally the devs telling Seekers to sit in the corner and think about what we've done.

    And now, back to circling that blasted well.

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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/14/2016
    I've realized something. People have been saying Seeking wasn't de-fanged, but that's not quite true. It's a difference in behavior. The old Seeking bit you, and was hard to let go. This is different, more like you're putting your finger in its mouth. Yes, it bites harder, but it didn't really have to bite in the first place. After all, we could all just use the UP cards to advance slowly, since some of them have caps at 14 and possibly even higher; we don't accept that though.We're eager to find victory, and every moment its delayed is a moment our curiosity lies unsated. Soon, I think I will slow down my Seeking...probably. In a strange way, it's fun putting my finger in this beast's mouth.

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    Saevitia
    Saevitia
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    10/12/2016
    OOF.


    Svetlana "Saevitia" Kozanova, Rebel of Port Carnelian, Captain of the zubmarine Brazen Buffalo... has gone NORTH.

    She is survived by her friend and helmswoman, Esméralda.

    Her last words, spoken to Esmé through cracked, bloody lips and a haze of madness: "TRAVELLER RETURNING."

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    Askebaske
    Askebaske
    Posts: 22

    8/16/2016
    Just went North. It is truthfully hard for me to express exactly how I feel. It was really powerful for me, and though the ending I ended up choosing gave me more questions than answers, it was such a fitting end to my character.

    Now for a break before returning on an alt. At some point. We all know that the traveller is always returning.
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    9/4/2017
    ...oh. I got confused.

    drat it, I liked my version better.

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    Oskar Flagg
    Oskar Flagg
    Posts: 1

    7/11/2017
    Registered to say

    !!!!




    https://twitter.com/alexiskennedy/status/884770864473886720
    edited by Oskar Flagg on 7/11/2017
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/26/2017
    So...

    I have sought. I went North. I have found the Name.

    I still haven't stopped laughing about the Dauntless Campaigner pouring endless gallons of prisoner's honey into a well.

    edit: did I mention I'm campaigning for her?
    edited by Teaspoon on 6/26/2017

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    9/18/2016
    I have dreamt of Seeking, and of the identity of Mr Eaten.

    I dreamed a deranged crossover with "The Prisoner" that involved an inexplicable conflation of the Fallen City with the Village (Masters having people chased with white balloons! Factional infighting as a cover for trying to prove loyalty to the authorities - or against them, in more subtle cases). The Prisoner went North (in suave, distinguished fashion) and dropped out existence via a metareferential letter in which Failbetter observed that the nonexistence of the studio was a slight impediment towards finishing the storyline, but never mind about that, there'd be a really good ending for it one of these days.

    I wonder if I should perhaps have a bit of a break from the game.

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    5/30/2017
    I came across this more or less by accident. Rather an...unusual take on Seeking, and written during the hiatus too.

    http://www.philome.la/yt15anon/light-beneath-water/play

    [spoiler]The Vake takes up Seeking. It makes more sense then it might.[/spoiler]

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    liho
    liho
    Posts: 6

    10/7/2016
    Well, it's done. I opened the Gate.

    I've played FL for two years, and feel as though I've only scratched the surface of many of the major storylines, never mind the minor ones. I have an alt that I reckon is going to be my main now. Who knows, maybe she will pursue the Name as well. Many thanks to you fellow players; the SMEN-related threads on this forum were infinitely helpful during times of unspeakable, teeth-grinding hair-pulling frustration.


  • To anyone else who also took the plunge: would it be all right to privately share/outline the differences in the ending of SMEN based on the Question value? I chose Salt, and I suspect it might have given me a drastically different resolution than the other options. If yes, hit me up! If not, ignore this request.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    6/13/2016
    Do it! Give in to peer pressure!

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    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/11/2016
    On failure, it eats 77*SMEN Appalling Secrets (ie, the requirement). On success, it eats 77*(SMEN + 1): I think this is just because the quality effects are the wrong way around, so it increases SMEN and then tries to take away your secrets, so you lose 77 more than it actually requires

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    Spacemarine9
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    6/10/2016
    there is no god
    send help
    edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/10/2016

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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    dov wrote:
    Personally, I'd mostly miss the high level Wine items, which will *not* be easy to restock.
    I'm no NiteBrite, but I did sell all that for Cider, so it's kind of old hat for me.

    I'll miss the Mountain-Sherds more.

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    Sackville
    Sackville
    Posts: 295

    6/13/2016
    I noticed Set Fires Around the City didn't have a wiki entry so I went ahead and tried it. It did, in fact, consume all 462 Mourning Candles required to unlock the branch. Also brought my suspicion from 2 to 8, and I even forgot to echo or screenshot it in my haste to put on menace reducing clothes.

    So that went about as well as I could've hoped.
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    NiteBrite
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    Posts: 1014

    6/17/2016
    [spoiler]Pro-strats: have a rat of glory eat your seeking candles so you can make them a second time for cheap extra points of SMEN[/spoiler]

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    NiteBrite
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    Posts: 1014

    6/26/2016
    Alright, fair enough. I'll give up on those three goals. But how about this one? I just need 4 more tears of the bazaar and to grind to N7 four times to get have 11 Masters Blood. That's one for every master there is haha. A complete collection. I mean, I'd have to get rid of it before I go, since seeking makes you give these up, but like, when will I ever be this close again? I literally spent 1.5 years doing nothing but blood grinding lol.

    If anyone wants to invite me to their salon, I could use the making waves for conversions.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016

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    bjorntfh
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    6/17/2016
    So I just got 2 more points of SMEN. After yesterday's 0 points in 36 hours I'm happier. I'm up to 56 SMEN. I'll update people when I hit 63 and Sir Gawain's unlocks.
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    Guy Scrum
    Guy Scrum
    Posts: 197

    6/17/2016
    Welp, I got myself a calling card. What should I bring to the isle? I'm thinking some soup, and maybe some dice. Soup will be good. Everything else I can leave behind.

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    Arlecchinata
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    6/8/2016
    Reckless, young me used to think it would be a good a idea to grind for UP in order to "prepare" for when the new SMEN storyline came out. Today I am wiser, far less prone to self-destruction, and stuck with this:

    [spoiler][/spoiler]

    Let the Menace cards come, I suppose. The first one is already here, and its black-framed arrival has struck me with quite a scare.
    edited by Arlecchinata on 6/8/2016
    edited by Arlecchinata on 6/8/2016

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    An Individual
    An Individual
    Posts: 589

    9/9/2016
    It is done. An Unconvincing Human Suit has opened the gate. It grieved. I threw what was left in a well.

    This may not have been my main account (it would have been but it would have meant the end of my time here) but it was still rather important to me. And not just because it had a whole bunch of fate wrapped up in it. While my main has spent much of it's time performing the larger, more difficult feats of the neath (by which I mean doing a ton of grinding), this was my fun account. The one that did dumb things for the sake of doing them. I'd originally intended for it to turn back and let the dedicated account take the hit but in the end this felt right. I expect that account to go NORTH and ask about Salt in the next month or so, but if anyone who Hated would care to swap ending information please send me a PM.

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    An Individual
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    9/4/2016
    I posted this elsewhere but given that it's only really relevant to the NORTH bound I figured I'd mention it here to. I have a character pretty much ready to go north (it's just finishing grinding an Ubergoat because... because) and I've been entertained by the idea of being able to symbolically throw them in a well once they're effectively dead (or maybe literally, I'll find out soon). Problem being, there isn't any such well as far as I am aware. So I made one.

    An Obsidian Well

    We'll see how this goes. If there isn't any interest in using it I'll shutter it. The idea is simple enough. Once you've gone NORTH, display your "Well (Stars)" quality on your mantel piece, submit your profile, and your character's name (linking to your profile) and an epitaph (drawn from your "They say..." section) will appear in the well.

    IMPORTANT: Your name will only appear there if YOU submit it. I won't be hunting down profiles and adding them. This is strictly opt in. The submission process is, necessarily, on your honor though so if you see your name in there and want out send me a PM or a note through the "Feed the Well" option and I'll make sure to remove you.

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    Docteur
    Docteur
    Posts: 101

    7/7/2016
    I'm going North tomorrow morning. This has been an interesting ride.

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    Posts: 575

    6/14/2016
    I'm wondering if we should wait for bjorntfh or Spacemarine9 (when they get as far as them) to do the honors of explaining what the hell just happened. Without saying much, basically SMEN hits harder than we thought. Then harder. And then it stops playing around and makes you wish for death, which it may just deliver on. So basically everything we expected from this story if not more.
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 6/14/2016

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    9/16/2016
    "Oh, that's just jimmy, don't worry about him, he spends most of his time in an otherworldly unspeakable hell of his own creation. Possessed by eldritch gods beyond our comprehension. Inescapable and indescribable. Occasionally he'll pop over to redecorate. Don't mind him."
    edited by suinicide on 9/16/2016

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    10/15/2017
    We generally share them between us, since doing that thrhee times would be rough for everyone that isn't passionario.

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    Blaine Davidson
    Blaine Davidson
    Posts: 345

    6/13/2016
    Oh no, this can't be good.



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    Cranston Pickle
    Cranston Pickle
    Posts: 14

    8/21/2016
    Well, I guess you can count me as another who has gone North, only to turn back at the last second. The Seven-Fold-Knock has now replaced my beloved Miniature Model Ship on my mantelpiece. What a fantastic quest.

    While I am happy with my experience, and don't assume that I deserve to see the proper endings to the story (having sacrificed relatively little compared to the others who have gone North), if anyone would be willing to share, I'd be forever grateful.

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    Barse
    Barse
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    8/19/2016
    While it is technically after the spoiler warning, and I chose not to echo the results personally, the text you get for turning back is nothing special. After all, the text is not the reward, the Knock is. If you chose to echo it and people want to see, they will not find anything that exciting there.

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    An Individual
    An Individual
    Posts: 589

    8/29/2016
    Shadowhand wrote:
    The flash lay did indeed fix my deck, thank you! Has it been determined whether the deck nuke was actually a bug or whether it was intended to remain that way, and that the flash lay fix is actually the bug?

    I didn't realize that I could get Gawain's with any of the other options; I feared it would just do something else disastrous without the reward of a candle, hence I went straight for decapitation.


    I suspect it has something to do with the infinite card draw you get while zailing and the auto-jump back to your lodgings. I'm guessing the Zee sets your deck total the the int minimum (or somewhere close to it) and while most transitions back to London reset it to your London value this particular transition is missing that step. So once you move into a state that triggers a count transfer and return the London the correct value gets transitioned back in.

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    6/26/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    Important question: I have like 3 years worth of life goals left for my character, but now that SMEN is back I just want to go NORTH while its still fresh and new. I'm wondering if I should fate rush (expensively) 3 years of plans into like a month or if I should just drop everything and go now, restarting these plans on an alt who would take like 7 years to do these same things instead of 3.

    Goals:
    1. Second heptagoat - Im about halfway there, but with like $1000 of fate I could conceivably reach this goal asap from fate expeditions. Expensive, but dang would it look cool on my mantle after I've gone. This was my goal to complete over the next year.
    2. 7 of all the 4 card lodgings to throw down the well. I've got 7 of every other lodgings, but the 4 carders are mad expensive so I hadn't done it year. This was my plan for the second year. I will probably abandon this plan since I'm throwing lodgings down the well in the future anyways and it would take too long.
    3. Make 7 of every item that its possible to make 7 of. I can get really close to this if I make a lot of echos as mentioned in goal 1 above, make the 7s, then sell the items for the goats. It might not be ~every~ item, but it would be pretty close! This was year 3's plan (so that it could be done at the -same time- and co-exist with the 2 goats).

    I want to do all of these things, but at the same time the lure of the NORTH is very strong. I definitely can't wait three years, and probably not even one. I feel like, if I'm not on a dedicated seeking grind in like a month I might go mad haha. But dang, to do my goals in that time frame- it's a lot of cash dollars. But 2 goats man. 2 goats, how cool would that be aaaa.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016


    How important is it to you that you go NORTH with your main account? I'm having a lot of fun trying to rush a fresh alt towards oblivion and I'm pretty sure I'll manage it in under a year.

    All that said, if your going to go NORTH I'd just do it and pursue your goals on a fresh account. It seems like so much of the later part of Seeking is about letting go. Let go of your dreams and ambitions. Let go for you will need nothing. You will have nothing. You will become nothing. Let go and go NORTH.

    Plus your new character is going to need something to do.

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    My alt is slowly, painfully clawing it's way toward Seeking 27. So I've been starting to prepare it for St. Cerise's Candle. It has a goat, and I was mentally preparing myself to chuck it down a well when I realized that one of the benefits of the account spending the last year(ish) doing nothing but collecting Tales of Terror and Eyeless Skulls to no particular end was that it's been hoarding Trade Secrets. 10 of them, to be precise. So I did some searching and it looks like the best plan here is to get Short Story potential to 84 and then burn them all to get a 100% check on creating a Classic Short Story. Which seems insane. A dedicated end game account could farm enough money for another goat faster than it could farm 10 Trade Secrets. But I already have enough Enigmas to do what must be done and I don't have anything else to do with them. This seems right, but it feels weird. Fortunately, not as weird as throwing a goat down a well.

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    6/8/2016
    The Master wrote:
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    So, I'm in a bit of a dilemma with this now.

    I have no desire to seek. However, my significant other in FL does, and I wish to support him in his foolish errand. WHAT DO?


    Tell them not to seek, beg them, do not let them seek, it only leads to suffering and death.


    Maybe the power of love can overcome? You know what they say about the deepest matters of the Bazzar.

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    11/23/2016
    You had Unaccountably Peckish at 3 or higher by the sounds of it, drew one of the related menace cards, and chose a Seeking option. So yeah you briefly fell into it.

    That's really my big quibble with New SMEN. It's too easy for unaware players to fall into, and some of the Peckish cards make for incoherent entry points as they're modified versions of cards from Old SMEN. Two of Bats is a good example of the latter, as an NPC is delivering a message to stop Seeking is just confusing for players who aren't Seeking at all. In my view, SMEN should be harder to accidentally begin, somewhat like in the olden days. Perhaps all the Peckish cards after Ace of Hungers should require SMEN, or at least certain ones like Two of Bats where Seeking is necessary context. Perhaps all the Marsh-Mired options should require Seeking to use, so eating raw meat wouldn't blindside players with a road to damnation. The latter would require a clearer entry point, say an option on Ace of Hungers only visible without SMEN that was more clearly a capital-letter Bad Idea.

    I would also like more obscure entry points to Seeking again. Old SMEN was started through an uncommon dream card, a Mahogany Hall option, Sacksmas, or accepting a betrayal. These days Mahogany Hall doesn't work, Sacksmas is obviously an unknown for now, and betrayals require prior knowledge of SMEN or a particularly rude acquaintance. Thus the only entry points now for exploring players to find are the rather generic options on Peckish cards, the more unique but fickle dream card, and the Forgotten Quarter. A few more options lying in wait for players too inquisitive for their own good would fit the lore well, and make the beginning detailed story-wise as well as mechanically.

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    6/14/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    Somehow, I kind of wish there will be an option unlocked by scorched by the sun that's like 'ah yes, we've been expecting you NiteBrite' but that's just wishful thinking.
    The other choice would require not being scorched by the sun, and will go: "Hello Nit.... Oh, terribly sorry. Thought you were someone else. Never mind."

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    7/10/2016
    I'd you plan to only start Seeking in a few years, then indeed you'll need many (as in thousands and thousands of) Appalling Secrets.

    However, there's no real penalty to simply being a Seeker (as there used to be in old SMEN). So, if you want to be ready to Seek down the line, I recommend the much cheaper option: start Seeking now, and each week, when Time the Healer clears your Marsh-Mired quality, increase your Unaccountably Peckish to gain a free SMEN point from the UP cards until your Seeking level is 27. This way you'll skip most of the (considerable) initial cost of Seeking.

    You'll still need a few Searing Enigmas later (about 7 I think but possibly 14), and either a goat or a classical short story.

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    7/21/2016
    I'm sure there's someone out there who will try to get to 777.


    EDIT: Well, what do you know? 1000 posts...

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    6/10/2016
    [spoiler]Good news, sending Mr Eaten's calling card to other players works now! Bad news, sending the card sets your cards to 0. Haha, 3 cards just poofed out of existence as easy as they came into existence in the first place. Farewell, my 4x Mr Eaten's calling cards. You served me well these many years... and I totally forgot to check if winking isle was back before I passed it on haha, rip.[/spoiler]

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    7/1/2016
    I know I personally was planning on wearing a bunch of ridiculous hats to zero out all of my stats except dangerous before I go. I would then write a story about how I am going north in my mobile fortress of colorful hats. Unwise acts tend to mean more when they are a bit more personal. Selling a cider is an example of something no one would normally do, but can be great fun. Maybe you can even trade it for a goat haha
    [spoiler]Im sorry, it's just really hard to come up with new bad ideas that I haven't already done for myself haha[/spoiler]

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    6/14/2016
    (So yes, if anyone knows where the caps are, can we list them, please? That's purely mechanical and I see no need for discretion there.)

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    I accidentally logged into an_ocelot's account absent-mindedly and discovered that 15 days ago, I'd dined with someone at Dante's Grill, which was a nice trick!

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    6/15/2016
    Everything on that list is a requirement to get into the core of Winking Isle. There are no others (actually i forgot to put the other optional requirement set in; 0 Ambers (all except Warm) and Unearthly Fossils). If there's any option which interacts with Cider at all, it only shows up if you have it, and it otherwise doesn't prevent you from getting in.

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    6/15/2016
    fortigan has the Dual Nature

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    6/17/2016
    i haven't successfully gotten a point of SMEN from Winking Isle for most of a day (by which I mean like 20 hours), I suspect the RNG is using me as an experiment to test the depths of human Misery
    edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/17/2016

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    6/25/2016
    everything ends. except Rats.

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    6/30/2016
    Dude, that was epic.

    Question: is the Salt option going to be meaningful if you haven't played Sunless Sea? I was planning to Grieve because it's much more in character for me, but I've missed all the SS lore.

    And congratulations on your forthcoming gig! That's amazing.

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    6/18/2016


    Reputation: Abomination

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    12/22/2016


    There is no closure. No respite. Only hunger, grief and hate. (And me.)

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    3/17/2017
    An Individual wrote:
    The main limit with increasing SMEN with the Seeking Road options is that they require more resources and even more difficult checks for each level of Seeking you've already achieved so things quickly get out of hand.

    Case in point:



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    7/11/2016
    To anyone who doesn't check Eaten's twitter account, I would like to note that he/she/it is still posting mostly random stuff.

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    6/17/2016
    Alexander Feld wrote:

    H? An eighth candle, perhaps?



    That is mind blowing.
    Melt all 7 candles to create the H one. Use yourself as the wick. Be the Seeker of Glory.

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    6/13/2016
    Blaine Davidson wrote:
    Oh no, this can't be good.



    That's not the issue. The real issue is that text which say Mr.Eaten is here in London!

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    8/28/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    I'm on the edge of the Nightmare Carnival now, I think. Why is there an option to spend 1000 Appalling Secrets to get to the same place? Anything I should bring in there, other than my sanity?


    If you're anything like me and want to explore, bring much more pearls, 3330 is the bare minimum that only lets you get the candle.
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    6/14/2016
    Also, funding Seekers is never a bad decision. There is absolutely no way it can go wrong.

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    6/24/2016
    Since I have begun Seeking, I have become three or four times as hungry as normal, have been experiencing computer problems, have been filled with inexplicable rage and depression at odd moments.

    Seeking is starting to affect me in real life. Please take warning, those who Seek the Name.
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    6/8/2016
    I just got a card titled "SIX OF PEARLS." It asked me if I wanted to eat my own teeth, or break into a dentist's office and eat someone else's.

    [spoiler]I chose to steal others' since I'm not a monster unlike some people in this city.[/spoiler]

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    6/26/2016
    Selfishly: Save the money so if FBG do a kickstarter for Sunless Sea we can get that much closer to whatever sweet, sweet stretch goals there can be!

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    6/11/2017
    Delicious Friends, Ellia has, at long last, completed the journey North. Having chosen to Grieve, I would love it if someone could share the Hate and Salt endings. A PM would be most appreciated.

    My God...I was so ready, I was so ready, and to have finally completed this journey...I joined Fallen London almost purely to Seek, and now that it's over, I'm overwhelmed and awed. I can't believe I went all the way, and yet...there was nothing else I could have done.

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    8/27/2016
    "…for some say that in an unknown place, among dark, crepuscular caverns, at the bottom of an immeasurably deep and unplumbed profundity, for ages and ages now there sits a certain creature, anomalous and wholly anonymous, for anyone who meets the thing and learns its name will surely never live to tell a soul."

    Stanislaw Lem, "The Cyberiad".

    I'll just leave that there for everyone to enjoy. Alexis has mentioned enjoying Lem in the past, by the way.

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    3/28/2017
    I feel like that's a little against the premise of seeking. If you take it to the very end, you can't come back. If you take it to the very end and turn back there, that's a decision you have to live with.

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    10/5/2016
    And so, it is done. Perhaps it was terribly unwise, but it was a good journey and a great experience. And maybe, just maybe, it was the most fitting end for her.

    Let us not speak of St. Destin's Candle, however.

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    9/18/2017
    I have gone. Nothing remains.
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    3/28/2017
    From a story perspective, it would be hard to do it over again too. Millicent doesn't seem to happy if you turn back, and I can't imagine she'd be willing to help you a second time.

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    5/3/2018
    Got Fasting & Meditating to 60,000. Realized you can't pick Insight at 71 SMEN or higher.

    I already hated you, Winking Isle. Why are you doing this?

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    6/8/2016
    I'm glad SMEN is back, it's fundamentally a very different idea from what we usually see in games - but I kinda wish the player introduction to the idea was more solid.
    When I acquired Peckish it wasn't related to the Name, and if I hadn't already known about the Mr. Eaten content I feel like it would be very disjointed to read about my character desperately searching for a name the player knows nothing about, all the more so when the card goes "What are you doing to yourself?" and lowers connections with no real warning before that choice.

    I guess what I want is a clearer relation between Peckish and SMEN, or some kind of event where you begin your search as soon as you acquire Peckish, just so it'll make a bit more sense (and pack more punch) when you start running into Bad Stuff.

    That aside, this is super exciting!

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    6/30/2016
    Spacemarine9 wrote:
    This is probably of interest to the sorts hanging around this thread; a giant memoir I wrote containing four years of Seeking, complete with Words, Pictures and At Least One Gif.
    (there's also a slightly-wonky version on Tumblr if you want to show how hip with the times you are by reblogging it or whatever they do these days)


    Read through most of it this morning. Good stuff - I do particularly enjoy your tone and sense of humor.

    Congratulations on the position! Also, thank you for maintaining the Tumblr for as long as you have. Your stuff and NiteBrite's stuff have been immensely informative and entertaining for the past few years.
    edited by Stygota on 6/30/2016

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    11/11/2016
    Before the day is out I'll have my last point of SMEN. Already have all candles. I suppose all that's left is the dreary wait for the Season of Wrecks ending (and flipping cards till I finally get that epilogue for the most recent ES). This has been a wild ride.

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    10/18/2016
    I, too, have passed North.
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    6/10/2016
    The Master wrote:
    ashdenej wrote:


    I am beginning to suspect that some routes might be more difficult than others.

    E: The storylet is meant to be called &quotFinal Preparations&quot, and the &quotasking about Matthew&quot path requires that you have no Calling Cards &amp; is no longer Impossible!, so... there's that.
    edited by ashdenej on 6/10/2016


    I find the fact that you have 7 ambition enigma interesting...


    YES! Why is that ignored?

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    6/26/2016
    NiteBrite, 1000$+ is a lot of money, but it really depends on the value of it for you. How easy can you earn it again in real life? Nonetheless, I believe you should start seeking and forget those achievements. 2 Heptas are unique and crazy, but you already entered the pantheon of FL on so many occasions INCLUDING getting the first Hepta. So why spend the 1000$ and be the first with 2? Someday another will get the second Hepta and that won't be so unique. But no one can take "First Hepta" from you, or the many many other achievements. So I say, save the money and go enjoy burning your FL life. We are waiting for the new main to do crazy stuff.
    But that is, of course, my point of view, without really knowing you outside of FL persona, etc etc.
    =)

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    6/10/2016
    The Master wrote:
    ashdenej wrote:


    I am beginning to suspect that some routes might be more difficult than others.

    E: The storylet is meant to be called "Final Preparations", and the "asking about Matthew" path requires that you have no Calling Cards & is no longer Impossible!, so... there's that.
    edited by ashdenej on 6/10/2016


    I find the fact that you have 7 ambition enigma interesting...



    Yeah okay wow is Enigma 7 a thing? That's even more terrifying a concept than Seeking is to me. All the damn searching...

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    Posts: 50

    9/5/2016
    Nathaniel Grayborne has gone North, with a question that's been plaguing him about a sun far below the sea. I'd love to talk to anyone who chose a different question to go north with, if that's alright.

    --
    The pursuit of purple is my penultimate purpose. I'm also happy to be a Persuasive Patron for any who might need one!
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Diosthenes

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/nathaniel%20grayborne - so very gone. Going NORTH does that to you.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    6/23/2016
    It occurs to me that Seeking truly embodies the dictum of Samuel Johnson: who is tired of London is tired of life.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Arandia
    Arandia
    Posts: 127

    10/25/2017
    Okay, I shall never curse the RNG again. Ever.
    My Seeker (at 77, just dithering about whether to finally go North) stumbled upon a bit of SMEN content in the "Attract a Visitor at Hallowmas" storylet, called "So hungry". 2 per cent chance of success. Of course, I had to try it just once. And succeeded. Night-Whisper.

    Seeking has to be broken.

    --
    Arandia van Graeff, Midnighter and crazy cat lady: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Arandia
    Horace Glendower, a Seeker: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Horace%20Glendower

    Looking for plant battles!
    Always happy to partake in social actions. No Affluent Photographer, no chess and no coffee invitations, please!
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    6/10/2016
    ashdenej wrote:


    I am beginning to suspect that some routes might be more difficult than others.

    E: The storylet is meant to be called "Final Preparations", and the "asking about Matthew" path requires that you have no Calling Cards & is no longer Impossible!, so... there's that.
    edited by ashdenej on 6/10/2016


    I find the fact that you have 7 ambition enigma interesting...

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    Eric Larrieu-let
    Eric Larrieu-let
    Posts: 16

    10/15/2017
    Please, do PM me with the one that ends with him forgiving the masters, and the masters in turn restoring him into Mr. Candles and all the Neath living happily after after.
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    incerteza
    incerteza
    Posts: 103

    4/5/2018
    Rostygold wrote:
    I finally had one character turn back.

    Good riddance to this story. It was so much incoherent nonsense that is only discernible after piecing together so many things with doles of effort invested into head-hurting narrative hindsight - only an ardent fan of the game's lore would like this, and I am not such a person.

    Screw any of the Questions. Better to relinquish all that effort for a Dreaded +4 item - at least that's more worthwhile to a player who wants to play the game for its gameplay.
    edited by Rostygold on 4/4/2018


    A genuine question: are you playing FL for its gameplay, not for its lore? I mean, I have nothing against it, I just haven't seen this point of view before.
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    Kitty Rambunctious
    Kitty Rambunctious
    Posts: 38

    8/10/2018
    Barse wrote:
    Also Parabolan Kittens! Those playful little tykes can be stopped by no one, and always find their way to those who need them.


    ...now I'm imagining somebody in the NORTH, surrounded by a mountain of kittens. It is simultaneously adorable and disturbing.

    --
    Currently under fire from the hellswamp that is the Surface and unable to reply to interactions. Love to all those who sent them anyway. smile

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Kitty%20Rambunctious
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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    7/4/2016
    Unaccountably Peckish in action

    BFW Edit: Clever, but a little too far for us. Sorry!
    edited by babelfishwars on 7/4/2016

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    Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    Estelle Knoht
    Estelle Knoht
    Posts: 1751

    6/8/2016
    In any case, if you are considering seeking you should make up your mind. Either see it to the bitter end or just don't start it - abandoning it in the middle is the worst idea in all circumstances. No dabbling for this one.

    --
    Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady.
    I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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    Malgorath
    Malgorath
    Posts: 124

    9/2/2016
    I've reached an end. Well, that's different.

    --
    Phil - TRAVELLER RETURNING

    Malgorath - A new member of the Neath.
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    Vega
    Vega
    Posts: 145

    7/13/2018
    After no small consideration, and with much fear and trepidation, I've embarked on the Seeking Road with my main character.

    I've been long away from FL, so long that I've forgotten much of the game and had to check my main's journal to see my play history. Seems like I started here in 2011 (FL year 1889) and my last entry was in 2013 (FL year 1891)! A lot seems to have changed in that time, to the point where it made sense to start over with an alt and replay all the content to see how things have changed and grown. So I did.

    What to do with my main, the accumulation of about 2 years of serious gaming and quite a bit of Fate? Well, he has scars, chains and stains, so I'd apparently begun Seeking with him before I stopped playing FL, and the Seeking content has changed substantially from what I remembered. Makes sense to continue.

    But what a commitment. What a loss. That consent page made me pause -- and I initially opted out of it, but decided to continue. Those early steps and consequences of the Seeking Road made me pause some more. (Dire consequences. And this is just the beginning?)

    It's not so much the in-game resources (because I can make them back on my alt -- and I am playing the game with a quasi-clean slate so doesn't feel that grindy) as the non-transferable history I'll be losing with my main. I have the old FL journal with venerable dates, I have A River in a Box, I have a membership to the Temple Club. Nothing of much consequence in the big scheme of life, but still, those are nice little touches that can't be transferred to my alt character, and would eventually become inaccessible.

    I don't think I've thought so long and hard about an in-game decision for a while. But while each step down the Seeking Road made me pause, I took them anyway. And now I've taken too many steps and am committed. There's no turning back. So be it.
    edited by Vega on 7/13/2018

    --
    The Jaunty Mystic, Taranlei, roams the streets of London, interviewing fellow citizens. Member of the Sanguine Ribbon Society and the Temple Club (happy to send invites). Accepting all Acquaintances, lethal duels, social interactions, and opportunities for casual roleplay.

    The Shifty Spectre has departed on the final voyage. "I have gone down, down, my love..."
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    Guy Scrum wrote:
    Light a candle, light a taper, step down, step down
    Watch your heel crush, crush, uh-oh
    This means no fear, cavalier, winking isle's getting near
    A tournament, a tournament, a tournament of lies!
    Offer me solutions, offer me alternatives, and I decline
    I just want to admire this a little bit more.

    --
    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Catherine Raymond
    Catherine Raymond
    Posts: 2360

    7/17/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    (Y'all, everyone else has already read the echoes of the trailblazers, but I deliberately did not, and the writing is SO. GOOD. Five more levels of Seeking and I can go NORTH. I can't wait.)


    I hope that the journey, and it's culmination, are all that you hope for, and more. (I'd have said "Best of luck!" but that's kind of absurd to say about anything related to Seeking.) :-)

    --
    Cathy Raymond
    http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355

    Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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    Catherine Raymond
    Catherine Raymond
    Posts: 2360

    6/25/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    I'm going to take a likely guess on what happens at the end of Seeking; you end up opening the gates to let The White through. Also, it seems possible, though not necessarily probable, that The White, The Red, and The Gold might refer to types of stars rather than individuals.


    And who says that the stars are *not* individuals? I rather suspect that they are.

    --
    Cathy Raymond
    http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355

    Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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    Asclepius Unbound
    Asclepius Unbound
    Posts: 389

    6/13/2016
    I just bought fifty thousand cryptic clues at the Bazaar.

    If the Masters have a watchlist, I'm on it.

    ...Let's face it, I was on it already.

    --
    Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/10/2016
    It's in safe* hands**

    *maybe
    *maybe not
    ** allegedly
    edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/10/2016

    --
    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    7/1/2016
    Hey everyone:

    What should I do before I leave London?

    I just realized I can kick the Amanuensis out, which is going to be awesome. What other things do people generally avoid doing because they're long-term unwise but would be fun?

    --
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/13/2016


    --
    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    7/17/2016
    (Y'all, everyone else has already read the echoes of the trailblazers, but I deliberately did not, and the writing is SO. GOOD. Five more levels of Seeking and I can go NORTH. I can't wait.)

    --
    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/9/2016
    Alexis Kennedy wrote:



    Sorry! This should clarify.





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    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/10/2016
    The Seventh City will never fall, and all of us may live.

    --
    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Mikarissa
    Mikarissa
    Posts: 60

    10/22/2016
    And so, I approached the Gate, looked around and turned back, gaining a nice little souvenir to remember the trip by. It was a wonderful quest, full of joy and excitement- no, wait, I meant suffering and despair, yes, that's right. In all seriousness though, I have enjoyed the SMEN storyline a great deal, even though I'm certain 80% of Profound Lore Implications flew right over my head.

    I wish I had it in me to open the Gate, but alas, I have too much invested in this character. I cannot bring myself to destroy her.

    Having said that, I would be grateful if someone would share with me the endings which happen if you do open the Gate. Pretty please?
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    fortluna
    fortluna
    Posts: 306

    6/9/2016
    That card is available again - I was just about to come here to ask why I drew that card with one fluke core.

  • http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/fortluna

  • (if only I'd known -- would have loaded up on Diaries of the dead)

  • edited by fortluna on 6/9/2016
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    bjorntfh
    bjorntfh
    Posts: 216

    6/10/2016
    I'm only at 200 Fate, 28000 Echoes, 30 First Sporing, and a Feast down. It's not yet everything...
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    bjorntfh
    bjorntfh
    Posts: 216

    6/14/2016
    Madness!
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    bjorntfh
    bjorntfh
    Posts: 216

    6/14/2016
    To be fair, I don't think I was supposed to pile into it with such fervor. It's been wonderful, but it's emotionally like stabbing myself with broken syringes repeatedly (I worked in a hospital for a long time, trust me that hurts, not even discussing getting the broken glass out of the wound).
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    bjorntfh
    bjorntfh
    Posts: 216

    6/9/2016
    I'm proudly at SMEN 18 before going to bed. Tomorrow will be rewarding.
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    Alexander Feld
    Alexander Feld
    Posts: 346

    6/19/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    [spoiler]"Fallen London, notoriously, has almost no gameplay. It's all story."

    I'd have to disagree somewhat on this point. It might be true there's not a lot of inherent gameplay, but to say there's little to no gameplay at all is misleading. It's like looking at a deck of playing cards and saying all there is to these cards is the complex story its art tells, no one will do anything with these playing cards other than wonder what relationship the one eyed jack has with the king of hearts. But in reality, the amount of games people use cards for are near infinite.

    Fallen london is a game -themed- around being a card deck. And while you might say that the rules it gives players on how they can interact with these cards are mild at best or barely present in the greater story, you are missing a lot if you don't think the players are making their own rules on top of the existing ones. I'm sure you've at least heard of the concept "the game within the game". People often look at the things I do and question if I'm even playing Fallen London at all anymore or a game of my own mad imagination. But I am playing cards (fallen london), its just the variety I'm playing is NiteBrite's game (texas hold'em). This way of playing isn't unique to me either. Fallen London isn't a story, it's a deck of cards.

    Hallowmas last year (1893) was a prime example of players getting together to enjoy the 'game within the game'. The highest rewards were set at 500 spirit, and you only needed like 50 new contacts on a regular/yearly basis to get that. But we had over 300 people participate in our game. Many people got over 1000 spirit on their first year. But did the lack of inherent/internal gameplay reasons for getting this level of spirit cause folks to forsake this type of play? No, in fact people were already making plans to aim for 2000+ spirit the next year, because the game we made out of and on top of the game that is fallen london was totally enjoyable, even if it did have its flaws.

    Look beyond the pictures on the cards. See the games we make and play.[/spoiler]

    Very well said.

    Although I think the NiteBrite variety of play is rather more like 52-card pickup.

    --
    I am a star-gazer, story-eater, and a smelter of words.

    I filch hidden things from hidden places, to hide once more in my dark cabinet of curiosities

    Alexander Feld, the mad, damned, lord of seekers.
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    Kylestien
    Kylestien
    Posts: 734

    6/13/2016
    There is only one true way to solve this issue Spacemarine9: COIN FLIP! Heads you keep it for now, Tails you risk all. If it lands on it's edge, which lets face it is a very real risk, then eat the coin and the card.

    --
    I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien

    Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    7/14/2017
    Hey, you still have a 1% chance to drown secrets! That's totally doable!

    --
    Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.

    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    10/3/2016
    A rendezvous will not be postponed indefinitely. -Mr Eaten

    --
    Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.

    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    10/24/2016


    This seems right.

    --
    Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.

    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    An Individual
    An Individual
    Posts: 589

    9/29/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    What is a good Seeker-friendly profession that I can take, after that?


    Glassman. If you're going to open the gate you might as well have a pair of shades handy so you can look cool while doing it.

    In all seriousness, once you're past Destin's it doesn't really matter unless you aren't yet at Seeking 77 and need the extra watchful boost to complete preparations on Wiking Island (or maybe don't have access to the Nadir yet and want the Watchful boost for Expeditions). At this point you're basically preparing your death shroud so pick the one you feel best suits you for those purposes.
    edited by An Individual on 9/29/2016

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    Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help.
    Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting.
    Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint.
    Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road.
    Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    6/10/2016
    You can sleep with his calling card? Wow, this content is getting positively raunchy wink

    --
    Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.

    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    6/10/2016
    Here you go.

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    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    Optimatum
    Optimatum
    Posts: 3540

    6/10/2016
    Running theory is the rats exploded as a one-time manually-triggered event, activated for those with Saint Arthur's Candle.

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    Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.

    Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!

    PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
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    Barse
    Barse
    Posts: 705

    7/10/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    But does turning back remove obscurity?



    I'm not sure, but it is possible to never obtain obscurity in the first place.

    --
    The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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    Barse
    Barse
    Posts: 705

    8/13/2016
    Just enter a Flash Lay - I think setting off to zee might even do it, any venture with that kind of deck refresh - and your cards will be fine again!

    --
    The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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    Barse
    Barse
    Posts: 705

    9/19/2016
    Yeah, I leave mine at home and use it as a hatstand.

    --
    The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
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    Blaine Davidson
    Blaine Davidson
    Posts: 345

    6/10/2016
    I am equal parts fascinated and horrified at how quickly some of you are advancing.

    --
    Blaine Davidson, a reserved and sensible woman with a fondness of collecting rarities.
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    Grenem
    Grenem
    Posts: 2067

    6/10/2016
    Nigel Overstreet wrote:
    So is an exploding Rat of Glory a thing a Seeker would want, or a thing a Seeker would not want?

    Both, probably. An effective seeker- one who tries their hardest to mitigate the suffering and hurry to free eaten as quickly as possible, or whatever knowledge they're seeking for instead- would not want it. But an ineffective seeker- say, one who seeks for the suffering, or similar reasons- would want it.
    edited by Grenem on 6/10/2016

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    Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
    I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
    On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
    Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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    Drake Dynamo
    Drake Dynamo
    Posts: 500

    6/13/2016
    To kind of sum it up:
    Winking Island is back
    You need to have nothing to advance.
    No connections, no more echoes, no anything

    --
    Oh no. Another post from that goon who goes on about statistics.

    Drake Dynamo -Correspondent, Hesperidean Cider Drinker , Matchmaker, and Paramount Presence
    The Antioch - The Coffee God (I do not check this account often)
    Mr. Mauvais - A ghostly skullduggerous fellow, chopped up for the time being (Only active during seasonal events)

    Guide to becoming a Poet-Laureate
    If you need to discuss RP matters, I can typically be found on the IRC in #Argo.
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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    6/9/2016
    Koh Kai Ying wrote:
    As quite a newcomer I made an mistake and thought it said All Alexis's children were spawned for sacrifice.


    That's probably true as well.

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    6/8/2016
    @mal. Please don't burn the children.

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    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    suinicide
    suinicide
    Posts: 2403

    10/17/2016
    I have gone north, and would like to discuss the ending with people.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
    A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
    RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Sir Joseph Marlen
    Posts: 575

    7/10/2016

    Somehow I feel like this is the anthem every Seeker hears as they pass the Gate.

    --
    Sir Joseph Marlen - The Romantic Sophist
    Alexus Harven - The Defiant Fatalist
    Rose Reinhelm - The Respectful Revolutionary
    Cappuccino - The Perfidious Spycraft


    Available for any and all social actions.
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    JimmyTMalice
    JimmyTMalice
    Posts: 237

    8/21/2016
    I went North to render judgement in the fires of my rage. Now it is done.

    Thank you for all your help, delicious friends. It was undoubtedly the unwisest thing I've done, but I'm glad I did it nonetheless.

    Should any fellow Horizon-Walkers wish to discuss our dooms, I am happy to talk. After all, I can do little else.

    --
    Gideon Stormstrider, the Episcopalian Esotericist
    Jimmy T. Malice, gone.

    A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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    JimmyTMalice
    JimmyTMalice
    Posts: 237

    9/16/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Can we still switch our Mantelpiece items after the end?


    Yes, you can. I like to change them up once in a while to show that while I might be trapped beyond help or reach or sanity and only able to Endure, I can still keep up with the latest fashions. One must have standards, after all.

    --
    Gideon Stormstrider, the Episcopalian Esotericist
    Jimmy T. Malice, gone.

    A Tale of Two Suns - Meeting Your Maker - A Squid in the Polls
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    JimmyTMalice
    JimmyTMalice
    Posts: 237

    8/5/2016
    That's correct - Circling provides the highest average increase, at 292 per action. Inhaling gives only 287.5 on average. It's a very marginal difference, but considering you need to get to 60,000, it makes quite a change in the long run.

    For reference, the last two options provide a negative average gain ("Look over the isle's edge" gives -310 on average, "Look up" gives -2390). "Wait by the well" gives 45 on average (although its dubious claim to fame is that it doesn't lose you any FAM on failure, just giving some Nightmares), and "Watch the well" gives 234.5.
    edited by JimmyTMalice on 8/5/2016

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    6/13/2016
    TheThirdPolice wrote:
    &quotFinally! I've spent ages asking for a bite to eat. Now I can use my creepy dream powers to write the cooking blog I've always wanted.&quot

    All Seeking Master Eaten's Name qualities in the game are replaced by Hi Fans! Check Out My Recipe for Poppy Seed Crumpets with Lingonberry Jam.


    Nah, he'd like, serve traditional Mesoamerican recipies, he'd be a tad bit out of touch, so replace those poppy seeds with chili peppers and jam with bitter chocoloate mole.
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    10/17/2016
    At the end of the second city/start of the third city.

    Edit: yes, he was the price to bring the third city to the neath.
    edited by suinicide on 10/17/2016

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    9/19/2016
    Rather awkwardly.

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    6/9/2016
    I am so glad I can shove a giant monster goat down a well. I have been looking for that option since seeking came back.
    (Also seven fluke cores?)

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    3/30/2017
    Just completed my journey into Seeking Mr Eaten's Name. Gotta say, loved it, and loved the ending I chose.

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    7/31/2018
    FBG added the well lock to prevent people from raising SMEN that way.

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    7/12/2017
    The most hellish of hell grinds has ended. Congratulations!

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    8/2/2016
    Something with a patch today. Options normally at the bottom are at the top, and vice verca. All Of the stuff is supposed to be behind the scenes, but failbetter says its a start for some quality of life updates.
    edited by suinicide on 8/2/2016

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    6/20/2016
    Monogatari wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    Personally, I would rather Grieve than Hate, but I don't know how to get my Melancholy high enough.

    Both my Heartless and Melancholy are at 0, and I don't have a Bazaar Tear, so I guess that I'm going to zee to watch zailors drown for a while.

    Haters are gonna Hate.


    If you want to Grieve, and don't want to use Tears - you can raise it above 10 by going to the Forgotten Quarter (I think you might need to do this before your Soul is in too bad a shape though because Grant Hunt? I'm hiding from the zone now...) and the 'Old Bones' card with your Daughter raises it inside the Cave of the Nadir. It'll take 4-5 goes of the card to hit 12, but quite doable - is how I went about it smile

    Assuming, of course, you have that fatelocked story. If you don't... well...

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    8/26/2017
    Aardent will acquire St Fortigan's Candle very soon. I expect to head North before the new year. This "ending" of my FL alter-ego is becoming harder than I expected. I've found myself considering playing the Bad End card on more than one occasion. I'm determined to see this through.

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    6/26/2016
    While not being a Seeker myself, of course I couldn't resist looking at those seven clues Alexis posted a couple days ago.

    No. 7 "Sand" reminded me that there's a Borges short story called "The Book of Sand" which is about a monstrous book that grows a new page for every page you read. The story's protagonist - having almost been driven mad - eventually gets rid of the book by hiding it amidst the bookshelves of the National Library because "the best place to hide a leaf is in a forest."

    No idea if that helps. wink

    Edit "deceptions of sand"
    edited by phryne on 6/27/2016

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    8/6/2016
    Teaspoon wrote:
    Someone said that Memory of Chains can be gained without an increase in one's Criminal Record. Is this so?

    This is correct, to the best of my knowledge. Seeing as you get thrown into New Newgate without actually standing before the courts, I'm pretty sure your Criminal Record remains unblemished. The same cannot be said for your psyche.

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    9/13/2016
    Nothing.

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    9/20/2016
    Reshemin wrote:
    Just out of interest, seeing that it's not on the wiki - has anyone ever succeeded at the long-shot luckcheck in St. Cyriac's Deep Archives on providing the material, or some idea what that might do?

    The wiki was wrong - success with the correct amount of material does the same as failure, i.e. you get the Card (source: it happened to me). The thing the wiki referenced before it was rightly removed is what happens if you go to the Deep Archives with 2535 instead of 2542 Proscribed Material (Matthew 25 35 and Matthew 25 42 being the two Bible verses referenced at earlier points in Seeking).
    edited by Barselaar on 9/20/2016

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    8/19/2016
    suinicide wrote:

    Yep, that's what it says will happen. I was just wondering what the text was.

    Found it! Here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Spacemarine9?fromEchoId=2463583

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    7/8/2016
    I am far too impatient for that Big Grin Salt it is

    Edit: It is done Big Grin
    edited by Monogatari on 7/8/2016

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    6/14/2016
    The Isle was the big thing, then the Nadir, then a different island, and soon to be a Nameless River.

    For those curious about the costs revealed:
    [spoiler]Among things SMEN now requires giving up a multitude of items, some rarer than others, but that's not the big concern. The most recent development is possibly needing to give up any and all ability to have things that are usually considered of central importance.[/spoiler]

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    10/7/2016
    [spoiler]Far and not nearly far enough. They're past the first major section and just getting to the point where things start getting interesting. To be specific, they are pursuing the first of 7 candles and have not yet visited the RNG hell that is Winking Isle.[/spoiler]
    edited by An Individual on 10/7/2016

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    10/28/2016
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
    Wait, is it? Huh, they must have changed it sometime after bringing SMEN back, because I recall the price being fairly low and not dependent on the number of scars you have.


    I'll admit my memory is pretty hazy, but I first visited Fluke Street during the hiatus and I remember seeing that option. I don't remember the fate cost but it seemed pretty clear that each time you used it it would only heal one scar. So it's not like the fate cost scales with scars so much as you have to pay for each scar individually. That's just what I remember though, I could be wrong.

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    an_ocelot wrote:
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Barselaar turned back legit.



    Ah! So the Seven Fold Knock is a weapon then.

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    7/10/2016
    My alt has reached Winking Isle and discoverd that it is a special hell where the RNG sends those who have displeased it so that it may torture them for all eternity. Even with the optional strategy of circling I cannot escape these desolate wastes of probability.

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    8/16/2016
    Cthonius wrote:
    Of note for people talking of switching out of Torment, iirc doesn't changing the destiny take away the candle? Perhaps that was just old Seeking that I read about.

    That aside I'm torn. I want to Seek, have to Seek and see it all. But I'm fond of my account. It's just 8 months old, I've gotten a highest tier profession and a 4 card dwelling, my first destiny, and all manner of thing. There's a few stories undone still (being Governor, finishing the Affair of the Box, and the Hearts Desire stuff post Old Downey) but I've enough where with acquisition of a Starveling Cat I could feasibly begin Seeking. But even though it would still be a long while till I end it, I don't know if it's worth doing that or waiting the who knows how long till the Ambitions are done. I'd start a new account after either way. That then brings the idea of using an alt for Seeking...which would be tedious hopping between accounts and decidedly not fun. Any thoughts, comments?


    Seeking doesn't put you on a clock. You can Seek all the way to the precipice and turn around, or just stand there as long as you like glaring into the void. And casual Seeking is a slow but effective way to pass that first major section of the Seeking Road (you can be pretty non-committal about the whole thing until you hit Winking Isle).

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    7/2/2016
    Beau Mercy wrote:
    I thought all black cards were connected to Seeking. I'm trying to raise my Dangerous to 215, and I'm worried one wrong click will lower it after I get it. :/

    The Unaccountably Peckish cards act are linked to Seeking. They act as both an entry way and a method of progression. However, as long as you avoid the Marsh-Mired options you will never get any points of SMEN and never begin the road to destruction. As long as you drop your UP value to 0 (ideally through the methods mentioned above) they UP cards will leave you alone and any you currently have in your hand will disappear.

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    7/1/2016
    TAKE A TRIP TO A HIDDEN PLACE.
    [spoiler]
    (Do not sell anything before you go)[/spoiler]


  • Another more serious thing: if you're Heart's Desire, give/sell to drop below 70 First City Coins, and continually cash out your Masters Connection for more coins (and send those off to friends)
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    8/12/2016
    Malgorath wrote:
    What's the fastest way to gain Notability these days? I've got to get Destin's back (which is TWELVE Notability now instead of 7) and I haven't messed with Notability since Sackmas. Is salon still the best for later points, and is there a faster way to get the first few since they need less MW? For reference, my BDR is 23.


    With BDR 23, the very first point will be free and the second will require MW 1. The final twelfth point will require MW 45.

    The Salon allows the best rapid MW gain, but isn't objectively the best way to gain MW overall. There are a few different methods. The Salon and Orphanage both give significant burst gains of MW but require lots of resource investment beforehand over a long enough time to draw the cards repeatedly; the Orphanage is less efficient resource-wise iirc but has the advantage of taking straight money. Side-converting T3 items (Brilliant Souls for example) gives around 1.5 CP MW per action, but it's a consistent gain over a long time so dangerous for high MW targets. Stealing Tales of Terror!! through Thefts of a Particular Character in the Flit is less action-efficient but lets you do the conversions all at once for the higher short-term gain. There's also an option in the Shuttered Palace that gives MW plus some other stuff, if you still have access.

    A note: the reason St Destin's Candle originally cost 7 Notability from Slowcake's was that Notability used to be much harder to get, and capped at 7 at the time. Instead of dropping with low MW, Notability was guaranteed to drop each week by one level. In addition the option on the Amanuensis card didn't guarantee the Notability gain - it was a MW challenge with 60% chance at what is now the MW requirement.

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    12/11/2017
    Lore-wise, Seeking but turning back does not benefit Mr Eaten, but nor does it harm him. I doubt he really cares, though I also doubt he really cares about much else these days.

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    7/24/2017
    Pumpkinhead wrote:
    gronostaj wrote:
    but why

    Better than throwing 7 fluke cores in, like Optimatum.

    Hey, Ubergoats cost over twice as much as those did! My plan was clearly better :P

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    7/12/2017
    I'd upvote that, but it's currently at +7.

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    3/21/2017
    That's the name origin, yeah. But what does it actually MEAN??? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    3/26/2017
    So uh. We already had this account for Mr Eaten. But now there's... this one.

    It's probably just a dev joke. But why now?

    Well, the account's been deleted since I posted, so here's the screenshot I took. Equipped are a Primitive Hat, Shroud of Little Midnights, Iron Manacles, Memorycatch Box, and Noise-Eaters. I've added into on the unknown items to the wiki.


    edited by Optimatum on 3/26/2017

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    9/4/2017
    suinicide wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    Mr Eaten arrives on the tenth day of Neathmas.

    You know what the tenth day of Christmastide is? The Feast of the Holy Name.

    Man, I bet Alexis was laughing so hard when he wrote that.


    ...I love that

    Wait, the Eaten!Sacks is on day nine of Sacksmas. Day ten is Veils.

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    6/16/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    *stares at spreadsheet* The real question is, will I be lucky enough in drowning secrets that I will have enough cash left over to buy an Overgoat and not have to sacrifice my Ubergoat. (Classic short story would take way too long, oh my gosh, why wasn't I stockpiling Trade Secrets? Well, because I was trading them for Enigmas, true.)


    Keep in mind that your spreadsheet as it is now uses a pretty pessimistic expected cost for each level (1/p rounded up instead of 1/p), and you don't need any secrets to get from level 27 to 28, just a goat or a story. With just those changes it should cost around 80±30k secrets (where the ±30k gives one standard deviation in the expected value). You should also be able to get at least the last level from marsh-mired which brings it down to 71±25k secrets. And if you know someone that can send you a rat of glory (*wink*), you can probably trigger the boom event and get another free level. All hope is not lost! (All hope is lost.)

    (How I came by those numbers: If an event has a probability of p, then it will take you an average of 1/p attempts to succeed. The variance in the number of attempts to succeed turns out to be 2*(1-p)^2/p^2, so the variance in the cost is (cost per attempt)^2 * (variance in number of attempts). The total variance across all levels is the sum of the individual variances, and the total standard deviation of the cost is the square root of the total variance.)

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    7/23/2017
    I've also thrown an Übergoat into the Well.

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    1/8/2017
    And that's the end of my character. He went North, grieving. If anyone wants to PM me the other two endings I'd be much obliged, and I'd be happy to share to mine.

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    6/15/2016
    Though did anyone actually tried the overgoat option to confirm it works?

    I know that Spacemarine9 tried an ubergoat (got Cerise, SMEN +2), a classic story (got Cerise, SMEN +1), and a starveling cat (got only wounds).

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    7/23/2016
    It's also possible that there will be more paths to get St Destin.

    Originally, the game promised 7 ways to get St Destin's candle (each more horrible than the last), and only 4 were implemented before the old Seeking content was put on hiatus:
    • Choosing the Torment Destiny
    • Passing the St Destin candle to a friend via Hallowmass confession
    • Eating your entry in Slowcake's
    • Winking Isle

    Obviously, new Seeking is different (e.g. can't get St Destin's candle on Winking Isle anymore). But maybe the other paths will be available. The Fruits of the Zee festival is due pretty soon (August?), and it's an opportunity to choose a Destiny. Torment might yet again give the St Destin candle.

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    7/27/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    dov wrote:
    3. You can only use the option with 60000 F&M if you're SMEN level is below 29 :-)
    I think you mean, is at or below 70 . . .
    I phrased it poorly.

    What I meant was that if your SMEN level is below 29 you must use the option with 60000 F&M, since:
    • The option with 10000 F&M requires SMEN 29 or more
    • The option with 60000 F&M requires SMEN 21-70


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    8/13/2017
    Aardent Lore wrote:
    This may sound silly, but I was wondering if it would be polite of me to snub acquaintances before going North. I don't want others to get stuck with me as a DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER.

    Your account won't be DEACTIVATED (i.e. it will still exist). You just won't be able to actually do anything (useful) in the game.

    I've had to trim my acquaintance list recently, and I went to each one's profile and then snubbed those who have gone NORTH, without a problem.

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    4/5/2018
    incerteza wrote:
    Rostygold wrote:
    I finally had one character turn back.

    Good riddance to this story. It was so much incoherent nonsense that is only discernible after piecing together so many things with doles of effort invested into head-hurting narrative hindsight - only an ardent fan of the game's lore would like this, and I am not such a person.

    Screw any of the Questions. Better to relinquish all that effort for a Dreaded +4 item - at least that's more worthwhile to a player who wants to play the game for its gameplay.
    edited by Rostygold on 4/4/2018


    A genuine question: are you playing FL for its gameplay, not for its lore? I mean, I have nothing against it, I just haven't seen this point of view before.


    My position is close to that. I got the coffee-like 'feeling' of the world, but play more for achievements and efficiency, spiced with roleplay decisions (I will avoid anything that really ticks off my character's persona), Never was too deep into the hidden lore, just, as said, 'feel' it overall, and like it.

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    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Kharsirr%20Lynx
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    hwoosh
    hwoosh
    Posts: 91

    11/8/2018
    BTW, this is a little late, but a note to all the people getting excited by the activity on the Mr Eaten twitter account, a few posts upthread: It's *probably* to do with the Cultist Simulator enigma, and not so much the SMEN storyline.

    --
    Persona: hwoosh
    R Fellow Oswho. Don't ask what the "R." stands for. The poor fellow is sensitive about it. And violent.
    Most social requests gladly and promptly answered.
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    thedeadlymoose
    thedeadlymoose
    Posts: 214

    6/22/2016
    Jeremy Avalon wrote:
    Someone took a screenshot. I believe it's 40 Fate now.


    Screenshot for the Carnival from a few days ago (which I just double-checked) says 50 Fate. Unless the storylet was updated since then.

    (It's 40 Fate to get a certain associated candle without giving up worse but free things.)

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Eris~Jay
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Red~Rose
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    LawrenceKeyworth
    LawrenceKeyworth
    Posts: 73

    7/18/2016
    An interesting article on an art piece that might interest seekers:
    http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20160713-michael-landy-the-man-who-destroyed-all-his-belongings

    This man destroyed all of his possessions, from a broken piece of his television remote, down to love letters from his partner - all as a performance of art.

    We seek the name for many different reasons, but the element of sacrifice runs deeply through seeking. I found myself feeling that it must be exhilarating and horrible to watch.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/LawrenceKeyworth
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    ochrasy
    ochrasy
    Posts: 158

    6/13/2016
    Gonen wrote:
    The journey depicted at IRC is amazing!
    How long do you gamble until one of you (or others) finish the story? Will it hold a week? Month?



    is there still any way to read it? I have only just connected to the irc.

    --
    Ochrasy. Monster-Hunter. Dangerous and Watchful, favors the Constables.
    Robitaille. Persuasive and Shadowy, fond of the Devils.
    Herr Horst. Seeker of Revenge.
    Open to all social actions on all accounts. Preferably, send any MW-providing actions to Ochrasy.
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    geremy
    geremy
    Posts: 70

    5/6/2018
    Sometime next week I will be visiting Mrs. Plenty's Carnival to seek a certain candle. I know I will have an option of tossing away my Hesperidean Cider. I was wondering though... according to the wiki, there is "no message" when you sell Cider back to the Bazaar. Are we sure about this? Has this been attempted? Has someone actually purchased immortality from the Bazaar and then... asked for a refund?

    Much as I would like to be scorched, I would be willing to sell the Cider if it would expand our collective knowledge...

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Geremy
    I accept social action requests. Feel free to ask for a sip of Hesperidean Cider as well. (Please make the request in-game, not on the forums.)
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    Shalinoth
    Shalinoth
    Posts: 488

    8/29/2016
    @Asclepius I am reluctant to call it a 'success' despite following in your very footsteps. Congratulations all the same!

    --
    Profiles: Shally, Chimes & Jack~of~Smiles . . . Current Goal:
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    mired
    mired
    Posts: 15

    11/13/2016
    I have all of the candles, and was going to get the last point. But I've burned though 40 actions just trying to get the last 500 fasting and meditating. Which I always read farting and meditating, a laugh I sorely needed this week.

    --
    View
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    Curious Foreigner
    Curious Foreigner
    Posts: 210

    9/19/2016
    I guess you put the headgear on your skull, then leave both at home.

    --
    Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.)
    The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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    Mikarissa
    Mikarissa
    Posts: 60

    10/24/2016
    Happy to report my success on "So hungry" option. It still reduces Watchful, gives a little Wounds and some Nightmares (but less than the failure does), and also a Night-Whisper.
    Text is here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Mikarissa?fromEchoId=9960297
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    dov
    dov
    Posts: 2570

    1/29/2018
    Will Crammond wrote:
    My character asked Who is Salt, and the ending seemed a little vague.

    A little vague? That's an understatement.

    --
    Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
    (Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/10/2016
    I'm going to miss being driven to fits of cardiac arrest.

    also if you mean rats of glory they were given out just this Christmas so there's probably a fair few knocking around out there

    --
    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    7/1/2016
    No, no, fair enough NiteBrite!

    (But I'm not selling the Cider!)

    --
    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    People looking to backread echoes of bjorntfh's stunning progress, start here; looks like spacemarine's echoes start here.
    edited by an_ocelot on 6/15/2016

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    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    7/8/2016
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Barselaar turned back legit.

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    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/16/2016
    I do draw lines even in Seeking (hence I did not have Cerise's candle back in the day)!

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    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/14/2016
    THREE OF ROSES: "Seeking Mr Eaten's Name hasn't changed, because it's higher than 9."

    --
    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Spacemarine9
    Spacemarine9
    Posts: 2234

    6/13/2016
    It's just 1x Mr Eaten's Calling Card. The text makes it seem like it won't be consumed, but on the other hand, Mr Eaten has so often been consumed.

    --
    my rats will blot out the sun
    Ratgames
    FL lore/mechanics questions and answers
    #FallenLondon IRC (irc.synirc.net) Channel! Click to join via Mibbit.
    #SunlessSea IRC channel! Like the above, but zee-ier.
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    Sara Hysaro
    Sara Hysaro
    Moderator
    Posts: 4514

    7/14/2016
    Did you mean to post that in a different thread, or are you simply wanting to know the Seekers' opinions on the matter?

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro
    Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.

    Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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    Amalgamate
    Amalgamate
    Posts: 350

    10/17/2016
    The betrayal was part of the price paid for the third city, isn't that right?

    --
    My profile is at http://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/amalgamate .

    Social invitations of all kinds welcome, especially games of chess, deadly sparring, and plant battles! Let me know if you need help with nightmares; I'm always happy for any social actions which increase my nightmares. Or give me Sudden Insights.
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    Asclepius Unbound
    Asclepius Unbound
    Posts: 389

    8/29/2016
    Thanks. I wish you well!

    --
    Alas, Asclepius Unbound is now forever beyond the reach of invitations. A successful Seeker.
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    Rupho Schartenhauer
    Rupho Schartenhauer
    Posts: 775

    12/23/2016
    Hate wins. I am content.
    Merry Christmas.

    --
    Old hand, still occasionally playing.
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    Rupho Schartenhauer
    Rupho Schartenhauer
    Posts: 775

    12/10/2018
    Not sure whether this has been observed before but apparently Time the Healer finally gives up on you when you've been North for 100 weeks. Big Grin

    How do I know?

    This character of mine went North almost exactly two years ago. They had 10 x Irrigo when they did, meaning that every single TtH visit since gave 10 x Fleeting Recollections.

    A few weeks ago, TtH stopped visiting. I first thought this was a bug, when I realized that they now have exactly 1000 x Fleeting Recollections.

    Could some old-timey Seekers who went North before me log into their accounts and see when TtH dropped by last?

    Maybe this is a bug. Or maybe FB finally deactivated TtH visits for accounts in a place they won't ever leave, and it was just coincidence that it happened when I had exactly 1000. Either way, I'd like to know Big Grin


    Edit Corrected 1000 weeks to 100. It's not been that long yet :P
    edited by Rupho Schartenhauer on 12/10/2018

    --
    Old hand, still occasionally playing.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    I started figuring out how many echoes I'd gain from selling all the stuff I need to ditch for Winking Isle and how many levels that would get me via Appalling Secrets, and I might as well share my work:

    Appalling Secrets and Winking Isle spreadsheet.

    --
    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

    Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    Also, people not on Tumblr, definitely check out spacemarine9's guide. *plots*

    (Is the list of things you can't have unquestionably complete? That is, are there things on there that you didn't have but they showed up anyway? By which I mean: can I keep my Cider?)
    edited by an_ocelot on 6/15/2016

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    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
    Posts: 1368

    6/15/2016
    Thanks! I wasn't sure how, mechanically, the list presented itself, so I wanted to be clear on that.

    It's actually . . . not as bad as I thought, then, weirdly?

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    Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!

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    TheThirdPolice
    TheThirdPolice
    Posts: 606

    6/25/2016
    But that doesn't mean the term "the White" refer sto an individual star. Anyway, we'll never know until the Daily Mail's Alde-bares-all edition.

    --
    Irreal Raven Tender

    Formerly dead, but I got better.

    The Eternal Zailor, or The Loon who Zails in Zirkles
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    Passionario
    Passionario
    Posts: 776

    7/12/2017
    Optimatum wrote:
    I'd upvote that, but it's currently at +7.

    It could always be upvoted to +77, you know. smile

    --
    Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending
    Passion: Profile, Appearance
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    Hailey
    Hailey
    Posts: 43

    8/20/2016
    I have gone North, bringing grief with me.

    I love this game.

    I'm not sure of the ettiquette of this, but I would be very intrigued to see the results of the other Questions, and would be happy to talk to other successful Seekers about some sort of exchange? If this is frowned upon, I am still extremely happy with my ending.

    --
    Sir Samuel Lewis - One who has gone North

    Hailey Daniels - One who turned back

    @elvortel on twitter
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    Hailey
    Hailey
    Posts: 43

    8/1/2016
    Finally reached Seeking 29 and have for days now been desperately flipping cards to find the God's Editors and get my calling card. Eventually I shall get there!

    --
    Sir Samuel Lewis - One who has gone North

    Hailey Daniels - One who turned back

    @elvortel on twitter
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    Henricus
    Henricus
    Posts: 38

    9/9/2018
    elderfleur wrote:
    Trying to send a second Betrayal Request while the first is outstanding yields a slightly jarring error message:



    If the Betrayal Request has not been accepted or declined, it can be withdrawn for free. Each request takes 7 Actions though, which would be &quotwasted&quot, in as much as anything is &quotwasted&quot on the Seeking Road.


    Literally everything is wasted. It will bring you no benefit.
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    The Elfin Cannibal
    The Elfin Cannibal
    Posts: 190

    5/4/2018
    . . . it's amazing how tempting 'Blacken Your Mind' becomes after a while. Fucking call of the void.

    --
    DO you recall how the Hunger began?
    I'm sorry, my darling, I don't think I can!
    OUT past the High Wilderness and beyond
    I fear I've gone Seeking, for of Him I'm fond.
    --The Elfin Cannibal

    Seven scars, seven chains, a soul too stained for Hell, and seven sainted candles burning at the well.

    Gone to Grieve on the 17th day of the 7th month, 1897.
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    Kowth
    Kowth
    Posts: 64

    5/17/2018
    Since I have no one else to tell.
    I’ve gone north with my main, to discover What is forgotten. I need help naming a new character to live on the new site when it’s released... until they invent some new horrible suicide.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/26/2017
    The fact said honey is disappearing, rather than overflowing the well, suggests that somebody is happy with her decision.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/9/2016
    Wiwo wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Eating the chestnuts doesn't lower peckish if you're below two. Any idea how to get rid of peckish so I stop getting that frightening card? Is it possible to lose all your peckish with another SMEN card?



    Get refreshments at Coil 1 of the Labyrinth of Tigers or eat table scraps from the Wounds opportunity card.

    Thanks ^^

    Though I have no intention of destroying my character in a mad and hopeless quest, I'm really glad this is back in the game as it really adds to the overall atmosphere. And it's fun watching other people destroy their characters :P

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    11/9/2016
    I have a vague NORTH question.

    [spoiler]Do all of the choices advance the story in different ways, or are there any non-story-advancing choices that I can pick for extra lore?[/spoiler]


    EDIT: I am past the point of no return. It's nice here.

  • edited by th8827 on 11/9/2016

  • edited by th8827 on 11/9/2016

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    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    Saevitia
    Saevitia
    Posts: 58

    6/10/2016
    Any chance of someone able to see Alexis's last post putting it up in a format that doesn't make my AV software go berserk? I mean, I know Seeking The Name is supposed to have terrible effects, but I'd prefer they were limited to my FL persona instead of my computer...

    --
    Saevitia's profile and appearance! [Gone NORTH]

    Now playing Esméralda, Saevitia's former helmswoman and moralistic Campaigner; she looks like this.

    I'm usually up for RP. Social actions are generally accepted; those with in-character RP invitations are most likely to be reciprocated.
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    Esteban Delgado
    Esteban Delgado
    Posts: 31

    10/7/2016
    I married the Artist's Model just so I could Betray her. Bwahaha! I'd twirl my mustache, if I had a mustache.

    --
    I am Empty
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Esteban~Delgado
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    6/13/2016
    Spacemarine9 wrote:
    Y'see, this card is basically a heirloom, introduced to the mortal world by a social action from Mr Eaten himself. It has passed through fire and flame; catalysed unfortunate events; been duplicated; seen its cloned brothers and sisters dissolve like snow. As far as calling cards go, this is The Card; another Mr Eaten's Calling Card exists out there, procured from the deep archives of St Cyriac's College; identical in every other way to this card, but much less steeped in history

    basically i dont want to charge blindly into this option, wasting this three-year-old Calling Card because I had no idea what to expect on the other side.



    but even in spite of that, it's still very tempting to click on it. It's right there!


    You aren't a true seeker if you don't charge blindly into random options that may delete 3 years old items that barely exist.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    6/20/2016
    Personally, I would rather Grieve than Hate, but I don't know how to get my Melancholy high enough.

    Both my Heartless and Melancholy are at 0, and I don't have a Bazaar Tear, so I guess that I'm going to zee to watch zailors drown for a while.

    Haters are gonna Hate.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    3/29/2017
    Balefire Phoenix wrote:
    Speaking of turning back at the Gate, is the text for that option echoed anywhere? (Unless it's considered secret along with the proper endings, of course.)


    (No. What are you doing?)

    Walk to the end of the dock. (What are you doing?)

    Mercy?

    One a pillar of the dock, an authoritative hand has carved this message: IF YOU WISH TO RETURN TO LONDON - IF YOU SEEK THE FORGIVENESS OF THE EMPRESS - IF YOU WILL SACRIFICE ALL TO MAKE AMENDS - RECORD YOUR NAME AND CRIME.

    Below are the names of murderers, traitors, hopeless villains who've fled into exile. They've made the icy pilgrimage here, to the end of the world, to prove their desperation to return home.

    Record your name, and wait

    (You are a coward. A coward! So be it, then. I was never here.)

    Hearth and home

    The fire is low when you open your eyes. Neath-wind buffets the shutters, rattles the glass, bumps mischievously against the roof-tiles. The room is chilly, but not icy: not the deep cold of the deepest North. You stretch. Your joints hurt. You cough. Your belly aches. You are hungry.

    An occurrence! Your 'The Seven-Fold Knock Quality is now 1!

    And no, I highly doubt we are not allowed to post this as this is not beyond the gate.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    6/9/2016
    Love the Night in the Lonesome October homage. But no chance for NiteBrite to sacrifice the Heptagoat? (No chance at this level, that is).

    -- Mal
    edited by malthaussen on 6/9/2016

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    6/9/2016
    She may be new, but she understands the spirit of Fallen London!

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    John Moose
    John Moose
    Posts: 276

    1/6/2017
    I'll never forget her scream of "tharakathrotiiiiIIIII" as she fell down.

    That was the spouse I happened to have, sooo...
    edited by John Moose on 1/6/2017
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    Captain Kaladin
    Captain Kaladin
    Posts: 21

    6/14/2016
    So, asking about the revisions of St Matthew gets you the card, right?

    And I would enjoy a PM...

    --
    How many goldfish is too many goldfish? 77,777?
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/12/2016
    Every time you fail at an 80%+ challenge, you cry. You cry even harder when the action's Drowning your Secrets. Back to grinding for Cryptic Clues. Can't wait until I get to SMEN 9 to try out my crazy grind idea.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/11/2016
    Grenem wrote:
    Cimanyd wrote:
    Nigel Overstreet wrote:
    Folks looking for chess partners might find this to be agood place to start: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic148-find-friends-for-sparring-dinners-chess--theft.aspx?Page=49


    That looks more like it's for normal people, who want friends, a few second chances here and there for actual use as second chances, trading menace reduction, etc.

    I was thinking of making a thread in the Mandrake specifically for trading large amounts of second chance actions for gaining stats back, to help those of us with blackened minds. Any reason not to?

    Well, there are probably going to be options to allow penalizing seekers who are sufficiently far entrenched for personal gain. I would not be surprised if the progress points all result in some variant of this becoming available. creating a listing of seeking players in one handy place would be like herding fish into a barrel. I'm probably... actually, probably not being paranoid.

    I don't know, we're all posting in a thread called Seeking Mr.Eaten's Name, so...

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Eglantine-Fox
    Eglantine-Fox
    Posts: 872

    7/5/2016
    I accidentally started SMEN. Don't eat dream food, kids!

    --
    Eglantine Fox, the charming and androgynous Correspondent, teetering between hobbies of seduction and self-destruction.

    Siobhan O'Malley, Irish patriot (or 'bl__dy Fenian' if you're impolite).

    Isidore Day, an up-and-coming London gentleman. All allegations of wrongdoing are categorically denied.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    7/28/2016
    I have just compiled a notepad list of all Main Economy items you can keep while going to the Winking Isle.


    I officially have no life.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    10/31/2016
    Teaspoon wrote:
    On a related note: I can't see the new Destin's option. Which is possibly because I have just earned it through Torment.

    Can someone tell me what's entailed so I know whether I can get Destin's twice in one festival? (I'd like to try that turn-in option if possible.)

    From the looks of it, this Destin Option may work even better than I thought, but it also has a catch. Just like the original option, I need to send something to someone. I need someone with SMEN 3 or more who DOESN'T have Saint Destin's candle. Chances are, it halves BOTH of our stats, but it might just do it to whoever I send it to. On the same note though, it MIGHT give both of us Saint Destin's Candle.

    So, who wants to experiment?

    *EDIT* All is clear now. It will halve my characters stats, but it will do someone else a kindness. I should have known;it's still a Saint Destin Candle SENDING option. What I ask is this; will someone else attempt this madman's feat? I burned my Notability from 12 to get this opportunity, so if there is someone else lacking in Saint Destin's Candle, let us be damned together. Candle for Candle, we will burn, or so I hope we can.As stated earlier, all you need to accept is SMEN 3 and no Saint Destin, but to send it you need 35.
    edited by Morucant on 10/31/2016

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    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    10/2/2016
    Brito wrote:
    I've just came back from Winking Isle ready to take destin's surrender, erzulie's love and fortigan's welcome and I have been thinking a lot about the meaning of each candle in this searing quest and then I remembered Alexis' tweet about Forthigan/Fortigan being a clue so I went looking for some obscure saint called Igan (forth Igan/fort Igan), and didn't found it but did found an old saxon verb for ascenscion https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stigan Could this be it? The 's' makes me guess no, though it does spell st igan.
    edited by Brito on 10/1/2016
    edited by Brito on 10/1/2016
    edited by Brito on 10/1/2016

    Interesting, but vague. Curse you Alexis! Anyway, since you thought about the Candle's meaning, it might be interesting to note how Saint Arthur apparently threw some group out. I suggest that each Candle represents a certain being with power over the Neath, and that Storm is Arthur. By that logic, Forthigan is likely The White or Salt.

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    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Cthonius
    Cthonius
    Posts: 362

    12/21/2016
    Cthonius, my main account, has gone North and finished seeking. Of the things I expected, that was not one of them, and yet it should've been obvious.

    I have Grieved for what was forgotten. I feel...content.

    And, naturally, if there are any who Hated, who asked Who is Salt, if they could share what happened I would be grateful

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    Cthonius, gone North. Gone.

    Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/22/2016
    Is there still a nightmare carnival with a wheel that can destroy you?

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    maricolous
    maricolous
    Posts: 56

    6/30/2016
    That was one of the most fantastic memoirs I've read in my entire life. Thank you so much for keeping me up past midnight tonight. And congrats congrats congRATS on the FBG position.

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    (Finished)

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kraine
    Mystic on the way to becoming a Glassworker, on occasional hiatus.
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    11/2/2016
    There is no cap, and going back is the only way at your level.

    In response to everyone asking for Destin's; I shall be fasting and meditating over the question until Sunday afternoon. At that point I'll pick...someone from this thread.

    Can't say fairer than that, can I?

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    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Stygota
    Stygota
    Posts: 65

    9/22/2016
    [spoiler]The only things I regret giving up are my 2 precious Sherds. However, a greater illumination shall sustain, blooming forth in baleful incandescence from his moth-Eaten name.[/spoiler]
    edited by Stygota on 9/22/2016

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    10/15/2017
    What more do you want said?

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    Loulou
    Loulou
    Posts: 51

    7/13/2017
    Pumpkinhead wrote:

    It's like beating your head against a brick wall for no good reason, but isn't it just lovely? I think I need to do it all again sometime.

    This entire sentence speaks volumes to my soul. I thought I was done with Seeking the first time but I guess not??

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    Lieutenant Balzac Thibault, seldom seen in public and rarely (if ever) available for social actions.

    Rest in love, Lady Ellia Stoneham, gone NORTH at last.

    Open to PMs if you're looking for help with affairs 'enigmatic'.
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    Igor Mirabilis
    Igor Mirabilis
    Posts: 4

    3/5/2017
    Salutations and Felicitations! I have brought my hate NORTH and seen what is due. However considering I meant to Grieve and somehow didn't look where I was clicking this is more than a little vexing, can anyone PM me the results for Grieve? (and Who Is Salt? If you happen to have it to hand) The Kindest of Regards http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Igor%20Mirabilis
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    a Nice Friend
    a Nice Friend
    Posts: 127

    5/6/2018
    A Nice Friend went North. And then East.

    I've now seen the Hate and Who is Salt? Endings, but there's no way I'm going back to Grieve.

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    Pumpkinhead
    Pumpkinhead
    Posts: 516

    6/28/2017
    ultrapowerpie wrote:
    Oh, ok, thanks for the heads up. I'll create a secondary account. Though TBF, we kinda already know what's north because of sunless sea and sunless skies, but still, I love a good mystery.

    NORTH, as it is in Seeking, is an entirely different experience than in Sunless Sea. You're unlikely to know much of what is there for Seekers unless you've cheated and read the endings. Don't do that; it's far more interesting to go through without knowing.

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    Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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    Achanei
    Achanei
    Posts: 63

    12/22/2017
    ExceptionallyDelicious wrote:
    Doubt it. The other sacrifices SMEN requires to get to that point aren't really comparable to actually sacrificing and rendering your character completely unplayable. Just make a seeker alt if you don't plan on going all the way on your main.


    That doesn't really seem like sound logic to me - on the one hand, you say that those who have turned back have not 'put in the effort', to paraphrase - but in the very next sentence, you encourage people to make a seeker alt, which is effectively not sacrificing anything at all, since it does not interfere with their main characters at all? So those who threw their main down the well get access, and those who dodged all negative effects by making a disposable alt, but not those who played it with their main, invested the still significant amount of time and resources, but turned back for story reasons or to not lose their character? I don't really see the logic in that.

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    Azothi
    Azothi
    Posts: 527

    7/14/2017
    Optimatum wrote:
    I wonder if there's some exact sequence of successes and failures that would let you skip some number of the optional steps and get Who is Salt? without selling everything.
    Your post inspired me to run some numbers, though I haven't yet tried it out with a character. In short, there should be a number of possible paths, though not all of them are practical.

    There are only two results on Winking Isle that will reduce the one's place of your Fasting and Meditation: failing Watch the Well (-385) and failing Inhale the Scents (-1925). The wiki states that you need exactly 111 F&M to unlock the option for obtaining the Sun Beneath the Sea, so this means that we have to begin at F&M 101 (because we can't begin at 66). As a result, our goal with all the fasting and meditating is to get a net increase in F&M of 10.

    Luckily, Winking Isle is really easy to work with mathematically. Every success increases F&M by a multiple of 50 and every failure decreases F&M by a multiple of 385. This means we can simplify the whole of Winking Isle into the expression:


    50x - 385y


    where x is based on the number of successes
    and y is based on the number of failures.

    The equation most literally asks "What will be your net change in F&M if you succeed at waiting by the well x times and fail at watching the well y times", but practically, we can just say (mathematicians forgive me) that different actions will increase x by different integer amounts. For instance, succeeding at Looking Up is the equivalent of increasing x by 200 while failing at Looking Up is the equivalent of decreasing y by 20.

    Every interaction on Winking Isle follows this basic idea. If we were to write the formula as 500x - 385y, basically pretending that waiting by the well doesn't exist, x and y would increase at the same rate per action. Succeeding at Looking Up would then increase x by 20 while failing still decreases y by 20. The artist in me greatly appreciates the symmetry here, but we need to work with 50x - 385y instead to fully represent the experience of fasting and meditating.

    Anyway, we just solve this formula for 10 to output the results we want:


    50x - 385y = 10


    The result is two simple equations, both of which must be satisfied.

    x = 77n + 31 AND y = 10n + 4
    where n is an integer.

    The lowest action cost is where n = 0, which is to say that x = 31 and y = 4. In other words, you have to gain 31 * 50 = 1550 F&M and lose 385 * 4 = 1540 F&M, which is equivalent to succeeding at Watch the Well three times, failing it four times, and waiting by the well once (though not in that order, of course; your last step has to be a failure).

    However, for any integer n, you can output a result. For instance, you can gain 5400 F&M and lose 5390 F&M (n = 1), or you can gain 9250 F&M and lose 9240 (n = 2), etc. These are all possible ways of gaining that additional +10 F&M you need to go from 101 to 111 without paying the price. There is technically an infinite number of ways to do this, but it's impractical, to say the least.

    If someone were to do this, they wouldn't need to sell their Wild Words, but everything else would still have to go. If the character were to turn back at the Gate, this might be useful, but unless they had absolutely enormous stocks of Wild Words before Winking Isle, it's probably not the best use of actions. But it is possible, and that's pretty neat.

    ---

    Bonus Information:

    [spoiler]Using this formula, you can also give greater mathematical backing to the statement that you have to begin with 101 F&M for this to work:


    50x - 385y has no integer solutions for (111 - 77 = 34), (111 - 88 = 23), or (111 - 99 = 12), which are the only other possible starting points. This is to say that it's impossible to reach exactly F&M 111 from any of those numbers. Of course, this is assuming that you need exactly 111 to gain the Sun Beneath the Sea, but I trust the wiki in this matter.

    Other fun facts:
    • It's impossible to reach exactly 10,000 or 60,000 F&M, because you're starting with at least 77 F&M.
    • The lowest F&M above 60,000 that you can reach having failed at least once is 60,002, though it's practically impossible to reach. This is represented by the equations:

    x = 77n + 1237 AND y = 10n + 5

    And that's about it.[/spoiler]

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    Away to where the Chain cannot bind us.
    Hesperidean.
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    Azothi
    Azothi
    Posts: 527

    7/15/2018
    Skinnyman wrote:
    Is there anything more (hidden?) to the echo of sacrificing a Starveling cat?
    [spoiler]Words have been clawed in your forearm. They ooze both blood and pus. 'ET IN PARABOLA EGO.'[/spoiler]
    It's a reference to the Poussin painting Et in Arcadia ego, which is roughly translated as "Even in Arcadia, there I am." The typical interpretation is that death is present even in Arcadia, a utopian realm. In this case, though, I believe this references Mr. Eaten's prior relationship with Parabola and how it remains present there, influencing dreams of dark waters among others. "Even in Parabola, there I am."

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    Away to where the Chain cannot bind us.
    Hesperidean.
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    Pumpkinhead
    Pumpkinhead
    Posts: 516

    7/23/2017
    gronostaj wrote:
    but why

    Better than throwing 7 fluke cores in, like Optimatum.

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    McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!)
    Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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    Pumpkinhead
    Pumpkinhead
    Posts: 516

    3/29/2017
    You'll need at least 7 Enigmas for Arthur's. It's likely you'll need more; 1 for every midnight matriarch you betray (you don't need the extra if you betray a player, but there aren't many takers anymore). Grinding them would probably be the best use of your time, as you wait for your weekly Marsh Mired to disappear.
    You'll need 7 more if you make your own calling card (although IIRC I gave you one).
    I personally ground cryptic clues through the Investigating in the University and trading the Investigating... in through raiding message drops in the flit (Use "Interview the Staff", it gives 53 clues and +4 investigating). It comes out to about 80 clues per action if you trade in the investigating... with a 90% chance of success. Of course, if you've locked yourself out of the investigations storyline in the University, that isn't an option for you. I'm not sure what the best mysteries grind is otherwise.
    The other option is to do the fidgeting writer grind, which is luck based and requires a fair amount of stocking up on materials. Searing enigmas are the 2nd to last step, I think. I don't know if your odds are better doing it or through the truthbreaker turbine at the university. I only had to do two rounds of the turbine, and I ended up with some excess enigmas. You might have to do a lot more, though, too.
    Edit: Since laskaris just beat me (dang ninjas) and mentioned Making a wild guess in the seeking road, I'll add that Making a wild guess is probably not a good choice since it also has a chance of taking away an enigma.
    edited by Pumpkinhead on 3/29/2017

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    Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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    Pumpkinhead
    Pumpkinhead
    Posts: 516

    7/11/2017
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I'd forgotten how expensive Seeking was.

    A gold card ate seven actions and spat me out again with no result.


    Ye gods, I remember how many times I tried to run to the bl---y nightmare carnival and failed
    It's like beating your head against a brick wall for no good reason, but isn't it just lovely? I think I need to do it all again sometime.

    --
    McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!)
    Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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    Pumpkinhead
    Pumpkinhead
    Posts: 516

    1/24/2017
    Grenem wrote:
    naraoia wrote:
    So, because I am a Seeker and therefore self-abnegating, I went into the lighthouse on Winking Isle and lost my St. Destin's candle. Then returned to London to begin the notability grind... to find that now Urchins connections have been completely changed. My orphanage! My poor children/MW farmers! What will I do?


  • How was it changed? I have no useful information, sorry.

    It takes 5 Urchin favors to admit orphans in instead of the hefty CP of connected it used to. Other than that I haven't noticed anything else that changed, so I think it's still a good way to farm MW.

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    McGunn/Bsymstad is on the slow boat, waiting to see if he can find out what death is. (I'm done with London for now. Thanks for everything!)
    Amanda Albright is a *spoiler* now, like she always wanted.
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    naraoia
    naraoia
    Posts: 64

    2/9/2017
    I've done all my preparations, and am ready to head North for the last time. Stuck around for the festival, not even thinking about the tattoo--just that I would say my goodbyes to London at its best.

    Maybe I'm just feeling my nerves. Getting cold feet. But a reckoning postponed is no reckoning at all. My time draws near.


  • I would not be surprised if the tattoo ended up costing you candles, that you then have to grind back. I went into the lighthouse on Winking Isle thinking it would be worth it. It wasn't, though the grind to get a second Destin's was easier than I expected. I may have to go for the tattoo, assuming I'm not locked out by already having two tattoos. If there's a fate cost to have them removed, well... we'll see.

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    laskaris
    laskaris
    Posts: 62

    8/22/2017
    And it is done. Mikhail Solovyov has gone NORTH and grieved. If anyone would like to PM me the other two endings, it would be much appreciated.
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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 610

    6/28/2017
    Nice one. I agree, I think we should all quietly back away and gently shut the door behind us. smile

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    "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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    Plynkes
    Plynkes
    Posts: 610

    6/28/2017
    It seems there is no limit to the desperate (seemingly mostly entirely imaginary) promises you and your cohorts will make to try and get votes, even in threads that have bugger-all to do with the election now.

    Are you willing to say she's advancing the Liberation of Night, too? That might get me to switch.

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    "Then tell Wind and Fire where to stop, but don't tell me."
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    The Lord Breakfast
    The Lord Breakfast
    Posts: 70

    1/9/2018
    Now that I've finally reached Winking Isle... I understand. I understand why everyone hates this place, despite the apparent wealth of lore it contains. May the RNG be merciful, and may the Judgements smile upon me this day.

    Manu Traveler wrote:
    I saw an echo which I believe was the result of Grieve, but I am really curious about Salt.


    Aren't we not supposed to share the endings in echoes? I certainly don't want to be spoiled.

    Edit: Also, the game breaks if you try to echo "An occurrence! Your 'Fasting and Meditating to a Foolish End' Quality is now 55 - Empty!" Presumably this is semi-intentional, as the text, is, you know, empty.
    edited by The Lord Breakfast on 1/9/2018

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    laskaris
    laskaris
    Posts: 62

    3/29/2017
    You should at least have 7 on hand for Saint Arthur's candle, yeah. (and more if you can't find anyone willing and able to be betrayed, since betraying NPC spouses and Midnight Matriarchs also require Searing Enigmas even before the ritual requirement).

    I'm not sure where you should be grinding, though: I came into mine through alternate methods (blowing up a rat of Glory at christmas, some long shots with Make A Wild Guess in the Seeking Road storylet).

    Good news, though: St. Arthur's candle comes before the point where you have to throw most of your worldly possessions away. (also if you grind lower-level mysteries, make sure you keep an uncanny incunabula. you'll need it way later in Seeking.)
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    laskaris
    laskaris
    Posts: 62

    3/20/2017
    I'm going to go test to see if I can get Gawain's out of sequence for Seeking science, will report back when I find out conclusively one way or another.
    edited by laskaris on 3/20/2017


    Edit #1: I was able to get the Hollow Heart quality without Erzulie's candle, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but so it goes. Still on my way South, I probably should have done something about my Suspicion 7 before I left London, oops. But I'll get South eventually.
    edited by laskaris on 3/20/2017
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    SeveredJoke
    SeveredJoke
    Posts: 171

    6/28/2017
    There's a winky emoticon so I don't think it's fair to label it as a desperate promise, it's more fun conjecture than manifesto commitment.

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    Marlon JD - Bag a Legend

    Suzi Bapsthwaite - Light Fingers

    Delilah Moreo - Heart's Desire

    Alexei Totkinder - Nemesis
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    a Nice Friend
    a Nice Friend
    Posts: 127

    4/25/2018
    Eating my entry in Slowcake's Exceptionals and freeing myself from notability was honestly one of the most satisfying gaming experiences of all time. Good riddance.

    And I probably traumatized the little toady-man too, what a bonus!

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    incerteza
    incerteza
    Posts: 103

    9/5/2018
    Arcengal wrote:
    A friend of mine just got sent a Betrayal basically at random. I remember reading somewhere that if you don't respond to it, it locks the person out of sending another one, or something like that? How does that work?


    As far as I remember, declining or ignoring the betrayal does not lock the sender out of anything.
    Edit: I was mistaken, see elderfleur's comment below.

    edited by incerteza on 9/7/2018
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    ApathyDragon
    ApathyDragon
    Posts: 2

    8/23/2017
    ApathyDragon has finally gone NORTH, also choosing Grief. That was . . . quite the journey. I’d love to see the other endings; if anyone is willing to pass me them over PM, I’d be very thankful!

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    lolahighwind
    lolahighwind
    Posts: 25

    10/15/2017
    I just finished Seeking and got the Who is Salt ending! If anyone has the Grieve/What is Forgotten or Hate/What is Due endings recorded somewhere, I'd love a PM about them! (I'm very into getting All The Lore.)
    Oh and here's my Seeker's profile for proof.
    Edit: Thanks for the PM! smile
    edited by lolahighwind on 10/15/2017
    edited by lolahighwind on 10/15/2017

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    Aquila Highwind, the Adamant Monster-Hunter
    Dionysus Highwind, the Lost Wastrel (Gone NORTH)
    Ruby Valdez, the Opulent Operative
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    nathan7
    nathan7
    Posts: 40

    1/12/2017
    Goodbye, I have gone North, seeking the question, Who Is Salt? If anyone is willing I would love the other two endings as a pm

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    6/26/2016
    Yeah, this is going to be a very long process. I have a lot to build up.

    But the Feast of the Rose is a long way out, so I'm going to take the patient approach.

    --
    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    ggscv
    ggscv
    Posts: 22

    7/14/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    Delicious friends, if you are using the Option Protector, I recommend you add these lines to it (the top is fine):

    /* don't wreck Watchful when Seeking */
    div[id="branch119870"] > form > div.qreqs-and-go > div.go,

    /* don't leave the Chapel! */
    div[id="branch184775"] > form > div.qreqs-and-go > div.go,

    They will save you a great deal of time and effort.



    This is fantastic, I can't count the number of times I've misclicked and done something silly. Thanks for the heads up.

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    A Dimness
    A Dimness
    Posts: 613

    6/28/2017
    -snip-

    On second consideration, I'm going to keep the election discussion off the Eaten topics.

    Sorry for the hassle, everyone, we'll be taking it elsewhere now.
    *Forcibly drags off both Plynkes and Anne Auclair*
    edited by Infinity Simulacrum on 6/28/2017

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    A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    8/18/2016
    On an opposite note: don't sell anything that you may need later.

    I have, for instance, been sitting on a Thirsty Bombazine Scrap I acquired in a Bundle of Oddities because I know I'll want it for Saint Arthur's Candle.

    --
    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    10/31/2016
    Give me twenty minutes to go burn this candle on Winking Island, and I'll take you up on that.

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    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    11/1/2016
    The new option gives both Destin's (although we didn't test to see what happens if the other party *refuses*, for obvious reasons.) At least 77 in all stats, no Destin's candle, and each of the confessions for the giver. The receiver only needs SMEN 3, apparently.

    What is also interesting is that the giver gains the candle as soon as they send the invitation, so perhaps they get to keep it even if the receiver refuses the request. I would certainly hope so after all that effort...
    edited by Teaspoon on 11/1/2016

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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/23/2017
    Spacemarine.

    'fraid you're late to the party on that one.

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    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    7/19/2017
    I've just realised that the Carnival is the most northward point in London.

    And it's where you eat Rubbery Lumps.

    Subtle, that. Subtle.

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    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/17/2016
    No one's pointed it out here, so I'm just gonna say; Alexis posted that the Fortigan/Forthigan thing was a clue, not a typo. Welp.The Tigerman will be missed, and his mysteries will forever perplex.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    ThreefoldSpeech
    ThreefoldSpeech
    Posts: 6

    8/24/2016
    I've just finished SMEN (going the Salt route) - if anybody else has finished with a different ending, I would love to compare results.
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    window19
    window19
    Posts: 8

    11/28/2016
    My main http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Window19 passed thru the Gate tonight and and asked for Salt.
    Folks out there who did Hate or Grieve if someone could PM me the conclusions that those questions I would love to know. And would be happy to reply with my ending.
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    Parabuteo
    Parabuteo
    Posts: 47

    12/9/2016
    In that case, I'm going to waste this mood on something completely pointless, because nothing matters and we're all going to drown in a well anyway. Cheers!

    --
    Once, I was a doctor. Now I am something different.
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    11/9/2017
    also, have done some back-of-the-envelope calculations (and a look at how long it takes people who climb stairs to climb seven thousand stairs) and my best guess is, yer average Seeker who's not in the best shape, between eating a lot of Rubbery Lumps/starving, will take something like 8-12 hours to lose no candle.

    I mean, I appreciated the Lighthouse text a lot before, but now I really do. Our poor characters.
    edited by Teaspoon on 11/9/2017
    edited by Teaspoon on 11/9/2017

    --
    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Parabuteo
    Parabuteo
    Posts: 47

    9/25/2016
    Think of it this way: statistically speaking, over a long enough period, all players will average 90% on a 90% option. So every time you lose you're eating someone else's bad luck. It's basically charity work, if you think about it.

    --
    Once, I was a doctor. Now I am something different.
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    Teaspoon
    Teaspoon
    Posts: 866

    12/8/2016
    I asked Failbetter directly and was informed that the event has been officially retired.

    Alas for a free level of SMEN!

    --
    Truth lies at the bottom of a well.

    https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Alt%20Ern
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    Darkroot
    Darkroot
    Posts: 48

    6/9/2016
    One of these things is not like the other. I suspect the Starveling Cat sacrifice won't get a candle, somehow.

    More than one Fluke-Core is also an interesting thought.

    --
    Me!
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    Stygota
    Stygota
    Posts: 65

    3/8/2017
    I have journeyed far into the NORTH. On reflection, I have returned with my hard-won knowledge less that of what lies beyond.

    Given certain developments in London, the Neath, and the World at large, what my Monster Hunter has learned may still be useful yet. He also dreams of going beyond to hunt the beasts of the High Wilderness.

    [spoiler](Plus, knowing a rhythmic knock - it's very beats and patterns tied to a larger cosmic dread that instills fear and loathing into those who hear it - is pretty high on my bucket list.)[/spoiler]
    edited by Stygota on 3/8/2017

    --
    A once hungry, now sated Hunter with a silver tongue: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Stygota
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    absimiliard
    absimiliard
    Posts: 759

    7/2/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    I spent a bit of fate to speed it up because I'm getting really impatient with delays to smen haha.




    And this is why we love you and wanted you for mayor.

    --
    "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain
    Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend.
    Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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    Cthonius
    Cthonius
    Posts: 362

    9/5/2016
    Can I just say how much I love the writing on the 6 of Pearls card. The option involving your own teeth particularly. Hell most of the UP cards I've seen I adore the writing on the SMEN gain option. But the 6 of Pearls just ticks all the right boxes for me. And the "oh god" at the end you can read in so many different tones to give to dramatically change how the entire scene feels.

    You sometimes get those moments while playing fallen london where the writing or the events resonate just right and affect you and man they are great

    --
    Cthonius, gone North. Gone.

    Oneiropompus, a Scarlet Saint, eager to help make your dreams realities. Accepting all social requests for now.
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    Wiwo
    Wiwo
    Posts: 365

    6/19/2016
    MadmanAtW wrote:
    What are some good sources of UP? I'm mostly progressing through Marsh-Mired options, but in between TtH I like to be able to actually draw cards, which means my hand can't be entirely full of Seeking cards, so it would be convenient if I could lower my UP and then raise it again when I need it. I recently accidentally lowered it to 0 playing non-Marsh Mired options on black bordered cards and had to send a starveling cat back and forth with someone to get back up to the point where I could continue to Seek. Any better suggestions?



    This is by far the best option I'm aware of.

    --
    Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely.

    Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred.

    Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably).

    I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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    Wiwo
    Wiwo
    Posts: 365

    6/23/2016
    Final voyage of the decommissioned steamer: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/ShowMore/118991/EventConclusion

    Staggered hatching birds of prey: the older hatchlings will consume their younger and weaker siblings. See e.g. http://www.jstor.org/stable/4081778

    --
    Wiwo. Almost certainly not a squid in a cunningly tailored suit. Surely.

    Care for some cider? Here's how to ask me for some. Strange pranks strongly preferred.

    Care to pet a Heptagoat? Too bad. It doesn't do anything (probably).

    I'm a Correspondent and would be delighted to lecture at your orphanage.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    7/29/2016
    Teaspoon wrote:
    I wouldn't mind seeing your list.


    Here you go

    There might be some significance to the lack of Luminosity items on the list of items you can have, might not be. Either way, its good for people who intend to turn back.Also, forgot to write in there that most remaining bottom tier items remaining get reduced by 1 if you have them, except jade for some reason.

    And I just realized its missing things like the Element of Dawn, and that the Mountain Sherd is in Luminosity... to heck with it.
    edited by Morucant on 7/29/2016

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Dudebro Pyro
    Dudebro Pyro
    Posts: 717

    7/13/2018
    Technically there's still turning back until literally right at the very last step, in case you'd like to preserve the memories of your main.

    Maybe seek on both accounts and then embark North simultaneously, then toss a coin to see who stays and who goes? Just a random idea.

    --
    Dudebro Pyro, eccentric scholar

    Spare Starveling Kitties always welcome. I collect them.
    For that matter, send me your unwanted cat boxes too.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/12/2016
    agreeableWitch wrote:
    Estelle Knoht wrote:
    In any case, if you are considering seeking you should make up your mind. Either see it to the bitter end or just don't start it - abandoning it in the middle is the worst idea in all circumstances. No dabbling for this one.


    Uh, about that. I made an incredibly foolish decision, out of idiotic curiosity. instead of buying chestnuts, I ate raw meat. I did not mean to start seeking the name, but now that I have, I don't want to close the option completely, for the rest of time. Anybody have any advice? Will I just be able to keep eating chestnuts? Or will the game give me cards that force me to continue?

    Don't worry, all you need to do is remove your Unaccountably Peckish and you won't get any Seeking Oppurtunity Cards. Well, after you get Banner with a Strange Device or Alphabet of Scars. Once you get those, just go to The Labyrinth of Tigers, 1st coil and eat some Rubbery Lumps to remove UP.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/29/2016
    In other news, it seems they changed the thing where an additional 77 Appalling Secrets are consumed when you drown your secrets.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    Morucant
    Morucant
    Posts: 182

    6/14/2016
    Omega8520 wrote:
    Also, funding Seekers is never a bad decision. There is absolutely no way it can go wrong.

    Just as long as you don't expect to get something back.

    --
    Morucant, who was once called Scholar of the Name.
    Good for Chess, Sparring, Caligula's, and perhaps Midnighter lectures at Orphanages.
    Uilx-Magnus, who truly loved...to Hate.
    October is as unpredictable as wildfire and twice as dangerous. Don't ask his real name.
    He has seen Hallowmas, now he will stay silent no more.
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    ExcArc
    ExcArc
    Posts: 44

    6/24/2016
    Pyrodinium wrote:
    ExcArc wrote:
    Since I have begun Seeking, I have become three or four times as hungry as normal, have been experiencing computer problems, have been filled with inexplicable rage and depression at odd moments.

    Seeking is starting to affect me in real life. Please take warning, those who Seek the Name.



    Side effects also includes dreaming of the Name.

    Those of you who are well-versed in psychology may suggest that I am in a depressive downswing, but you are just fools who know not the Hunger.
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    John Moose
    John Moose
    Posts: 276

    6/13/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Hey, has anyone echoed joining the House of Chimes as a name obsessed lunatic? I'm awfully curious as to what happens with that? ^_^



    Here http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Moose?fromEchoId=8819241
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    Omega8520
    Omega8520
    Posts: 102

    1/8/2017
    My alt, the Menacing Seeker, ( http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Menacing%20Seeker ) has now gone North with a Noman. There are no options that require a Noman in the North. upset
    edited by Omega8520 on 1/8/2017

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Omega8520
    A Correspondent of measure and restraint, not-withstanding a tendancy to rush into things.

    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Menacing%20Seeker
    Northwards with Noman. At least they'll have company.
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    spacecatte
    spacecatte
    Posts: 42

    2/25/2017
    it's done: the spacecatte has spent a little over a full year lapping the london life, and has returned to the north! (in the most gruesome way possible, perhaps, but it considers that to be part of the londonian charm)

    i went with the A Question ending, and while i can completely understand people's mixed feelings about it, i think it's a perfect end for the ole catte. if anyone wouldn't mind sending transcripts of the hate and grieve endings my way, i'd love to hear what else was available behind the other two! (i have the well stars quality to prove it on my mantle)

    --
    "That cat is walking around in a space suit."

    The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things.

    Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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    spacecatte
    spacecatte
    Posts: 42

    6/24/2016
    hey, deep congrats to bjorn and all you other seekers who are close to going to space and getting obliterated forever! you're all the best and i hope the ending is entirely amazing/suffering!



    --
    "That cat is walking around in a space suit."

    The SpaceCatte, a capricious feline claiming some absurd things.

    Agent Wicket, a Fist of the Bazaar who is far too serious for her own good.
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     Brito
    Brito
    Posts: 36

    10/2/2016
    Well, there's a Vodou entity called Erzulie, and she represents love but also vainity and luxury, one of her encarnations is associated with Joan of Arc, Beau is a french word for fiancee or boyfriend, Gaiwan is the knight of Arthur's table who chopped off a green giant's head in a game as explicited in one exchange of tweets between Alexis and spacemarine9, also when you have an insight in Winking Isle it says "Carboneck", Corbenic was Arthur's castle, Cerise just means red, Destin sounds too much like destiny for my taste.
    It all sounds as a really serious flirtation with Mr Eaten, like falling in love with your own hunger.
    edited by Brito on 10/2/2016
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    Gonen
    Gonen
    Posts: 817

    6/14/2016
    Everyone who asks for PM, things got waaay ahead from the chat logs I have. No new logs were arranged after the beginning of Winking Isle. Perhaps someone else can contribute those.
    In short:
    [spoiler] The journey goes through Winking Isle, Nadir to meet a surprising companion, Chapel of Lights (oh yea!). Currently our seeking spearheads are regrouping and will continue after a short meditation[/spoiler]

    --
    The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.

    The long journey to eccentricity:
    On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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    Gonen
    Gonen
    Posts: 817

    6/29/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    In other news, it seems they changed the thing where an additional 77 Appalling Secrets are consumed when you drown your secrets.



    They made Seeking easier? Ooooooo, that's going to torment the Seekers.

    --
    The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.

    The long journey to eccentricity:
    On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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    malthaussen
    malthaussen
    Posts: 1060

    6/8/2016
    In all seriousness, prospective Seekers who have not taken heed of the warnings sprinkled here and there about this content should do so. It will be necessary to destroy or abandon everything your character holds dear to advance the content, and there will be no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. This is the truest Faustian bargain in FL (selling your soul is trivial), and should not be undertaken unless one is sincerely prepared to sacrifice everything.
    I think this is important, because it would be terrible to see a repeat of the Winking Isle debacle because someone got their nose out of joint over the consequences of Seeking.

    -- Mal

    --
    "Of two choices, I always take the third."
    Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards.
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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    Gonen
    Gonen
    Posts: 817

    6/18/2016
    You DO know your readers well. I never thought about that yearning for an ending and still be able to continue.
    You will probably won't answer to not spoil, but from what I read the Eaten story will provide an ending. A true, final ending. You suggested it as one solution, meaning continuing FL, after finding the name is not a true ending, as stated. FL cannot be an epilouge, lasting for years, after the 'ending' that is Eaten.
    So I conclude, just because you gave Eaten as an example to give them an ending, that it is truly the (first) true ending for FL, nothing else can be done afterward.

    Also, yikes! You're not text-green anymore! (Yea, I understand why).
    edited by Gonen on 6/18/2016

    --
    The Ashen Anesthesiologist - Paramount Londoner

    Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.

    The long journey to eccentricity:
    On March 10th, 2018, reached 15 on all quirks, simultaneously. The Quirky Anesthesiologist
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    Askebaske
    Askebaske
    Posts: 22

    6/24/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    I'm going to take a likely guess on what happens at the end of Seeking; you end up opening the gates to let The White through. Also, it seems possible, though not necessarily probable, that The White, The Red, and The Gold might refer to types of stars rather than individuals.



    I don't exactly know about letting the white through to the neath. Salt made his way to the Neath without outside interference, so it seems possible that the White could make the trip if it really wanted. As for the second point, I think at this point "The White" must pretty certainly relate to one specific judgement. There is an interaction in Frostfound where you recieve a memory of Salt interacting with The White where it is a pretty clear reference to one entity, like "His nimbus guttered".

    My personal guess is that you make it through the gate, and in full view of the host of judgements spell out The Name in the correspondence, letting them know about The Bazaar and the betrayal. Then you are eaten because the stars are dicks. The end.
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    MrBurnside
    MrBurnside
    Posts: 188

    7/30/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    Snip


    Here you go

    There might be some significance to the lack of Luminosity items on the list of items you can have, might not be. Either way, its good for people who intend to turn back.Also, forgot to write in there that most remaining bottom tier items remaining get reduced by 1 if you have them, except jade for some reason.

    And I just realized its missing things like the Element of Dawn, and that the Mountain Sherd is in Luminosity... to heck with it.
    edited by Morucant on 7/29/2016

    As far as the luminosity items are concerned: Remember his Name. Or at least what was his name.
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    10/24/2016
    The Master wrote:
    Bl__dy He__ Cerise! You aren't going to beat me in this game, I will succed...eventually.


    SUCCEDED, anyways, a night whisper.
    edited by The Master on 10/24/2016

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    raejin
    raejin
    Posts: 6

    12/5/2016
    Just went north, asked what is due. Yikes. Would love to hear some of the alternate outcomes, if anyone is interested in trading stories? PM me!
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    Arandia
    Arandia
    Posts: 127

    8/16/2017
    Tystefy wrote:


    I meant if one gets the candle using the Mr. Slowcakes method. Getting the Torment destiny is an alternative way to get the candle.


    My alt Horace will need about one more week of Making Waves grinding, maybe a tad longer - then I'll be able to let you know ...

    --
    Arandia van Graeff, Midnighter and crazy cat lady: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Arandia
    Horace Glendower, a Seeker: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Horace%20Glendower

    Looking for plant battles!
    Always happy to partake in social actions. No Affluent Photographer, no chess and no coffee invitations, please!
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    6/20/2016
    No. I wish that I could afford a goat.

    I plan on throwing down a Classic Short Story. I'm very close to getting my 4th Trade Secret. I'll have it well before I'm ready for that step.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    9/26/2016
    I managed to luck out on the 777 option, and then managed to go from 6000-ish to 0 Fasting using the option that gives the 2nd best odds...

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    th8827
    th8827
    Posts: 823

    6/13/2016
    Spacemarine9 wrote:

    help

    Anything exciting happen?


  • --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827

    Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    9/16/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Optimatum, doesn't Footsteps of the False saints require you to already have Arthur's? Or is it gained while grinding Stains on your soul perhaps? I forget where I had it, and the wiki only says it's part of the Chapel arc leading to Forthigan's.


    Footsteps of the false saints are used both for Arthur's Candle and the Chapel of Lights, after you betray someone or something you get a quality that you exchange for the footsteps, 7 footsteps and you get Arthur's Candle.

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    The Master
    The Master
    Posts: 804

    9/16/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    "Oh, that's just jimmy, don't worry about him, he spends most of his time in an otherworldly unspeakable hell of his own creation. Possessed by eldritch gods beyond our comprehension. Inescapable and indescribable. Occasionally he'll pop over to redecorate. Don't mind him."
    edited by suinicide on 9/16/2016


    You monster, trying to make people who want to turn back go through the gate smile

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
    A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.

    No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
    He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/13/2016
    Hey, has anyone echoed joining the House of Chimes as a name obsessed lunatic? I'm awfully curious as to what happens with that? ^_^

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/13/2016
    John Moose wrote:
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Hey, has anyone echoed joining the House of Chimes as a name obsessed lunatic? I'm awfully curious as to what happens with that? ^_^



    Here http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Moose?fromEchoId=8819241

    Thanks ^_^

    Wow, that's more painful than I was expecting!

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    Eric Larrieu-let
    Eric Larrieu-let
    Posts: 16

    10/15/2017
    Teaspoon wrote:
    What more do you want said?


    ........

    ........

    Oh, yeah! The Name!
    Was it Kevin? He looks like a Kevin to me.
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    Saevitia
    Saevitia
    Posts: 58

    9/28/2016
    "No candle will be lost."


    I read it and I understood it and still I felt betrayed.

    And yet I still Seek.

    --
    Saevitia's profile and appearance! [Gone NORTH]

    Now playing Esméralda, Saevitia's former helmswoman and moralistic Campaigner; she looks like this.

    I'm usually up for RP. Social actions are generally accepted; those with in-character RP invitations are most likely to be reciprocated.
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    Anne Auclair
    Anne Auclair
    Posts: 2215

    6/28/2017
    For those who want additional Mr Eaten content, there are hints that the Dauntless Temperance Campaigner might have unwittingly and innocently gotten the Drowned One involved in her honey-fighting shenanigans (which is kinda hilarious). If she wins there might be additional stuff for Seekers or Eaten aficionados. Just saying wink

    --
    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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    silurica
    silurica
    Posts: 149

    2/13/2019
    There are several ways to keep your money:

    - Winsome Dispossessed Orphans. If you have access to the Court of the Wakeful Eye (or planning to), you can buy Orphans and offer them to the tigers for Tributes. The orphans themselves are not banned in the Isle so you don't need to turn them into Tributes immediately.
    - Strong-Backed Labour. If you're not in any rush and have the actions to spare for turning your money into Labour (which aren't banned in the island either), the Tomb of the Silken Thread is slightly better than Tributes to make money with, assuming you can go through the expedition without failure using a buccaneering approach (needs 267 Watchful to get 100% straightforward).
    - Rookery Passwords or Bright Brass Skulls. Technically a loss rather than profit, but if you can't do the above methods, it's the safest way to keep your money as you only lose 4% of your money worth.

    And of course, there's nothing wrong with using your money to buy equipment or items you will later need either.

    --
    Meika Osborne, the Reckless Researcher
    Leonard West, the Scarlet Informant
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    Kowth
    Kowth
    Posts: 64

    4/25/2018
    a Nice Friend wrote:
    Eating my entry in Slowcake's Exceptionals and freeing myself from notability was honestly one of the most satisfying gaming experiences of all time. Good riddance.

    And I probably traumatized the little toady-man too, what a bonus!


    I look forward to this scene. Screw Slowcake’s Exceptionals, Hell, and the Amanuensis too. Soooooo grindy
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    Trife
    Trife
    Posts: 1

    7/13/2018
    The Trife has gone North, asked what was due, and will not be returning.


    http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Trife

    Could someone could PM me the other two endings, please?
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    Hungry Wanderer
    Hungry Wanderer
    Posts: 1

    6/7/2019
    After a year and a half of Seeking the Name, I am Done. I knocked, and asked - who is Salt?

    All in all, was good fun. I didn't realize how close I was to finishing it this morning, St Gawain's was... easier to get than I thought (or was it?).

    Now to start a new character, who may Seek the Name... and may be wise enough to stop when they realize what the answer will cost...
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    10/15/2017
    Without spoiling anything, Salt is obscure as hell. Like, really obscure and vague and "Okay but what". Hate at least has a chance of making sense; it most definitely makes sense.

    Just go East in SSeas instead and it'll be more satisfactory. [Or read spoilers.]

    As for North, pick Hate. It's a lot more satisfactory.
    edited by oblivion on 10/15/2017

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    1/10/2018
    3 times the UP is indeed correct. Or rather 3x UP + 1 is what you can raise your SMEN up to with an UP card.

    That being said, the UP 7 to 9 cards are nice even for raising SMEN at lower levels, if you don't want to lose stats/gain menaces etc with the UP 2 to 6 cards.

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    5/7/2018
    Javelin4201, gone North and knocked, grieving.

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    10/26/2017
    And with that the Lost Cosmonaut has passed through the Avid Horizon to achieve their inscrutable goals.
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    elderfleur
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    Posts: 66

    9/7/2018
    Trying to send a second Betrayal Request while the first is outstanding yields a slightly jarring error message:



    If the Betrayal Request has not been accepted or declined, it can be withdrawn for free. Each request takes 7 Actions though, which would be "wasted", in as much as anything is "wasted" on the Seeking Road.

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    Passionario
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    7/12/2017
    Morkan Kassington wrote:
    Quick question: can you get back into SMEN after getting Free of the Name?

    You are no longer eligible for Arthurian betrayals, but I believe that other methods (such as Death by Water dreams or FQ option) still work.

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    7/19/2017
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    How numbing are we talking here?


    Less numbing than the candles or the numbers - it is mostly mindless clicking and luck, so think of it more like playing one of these social gambling slot games with an unlimited budget.

    It does take time, though, but mostly the saving grace is that you don't have to pay attention.

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    9/12/2016
    An Individual wrote:
    As I understand it, the candle costs everything. Nothing is spared. That's certainly true of connections.

    It's only when you wake up friendless that you find out who your true friends were all along.

    [spoiler]Connected: Glass survives Beau. I suspect that so does Shroud.[/spoiler]

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    6/23/2016
    I can't help poking in once in a while, but I've also been avoiding spoilers until I return from sea to Zeek — sorry, from zee to Seek. I wonder if approaching it blind means I'll do myself more harm by choosing the wrong options, or less harm by progressing through the pain at a slower pace. The strange paradox of optimizing masochism.

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    8/30/2016
    I salute you, Asclepius Unbound, and wish you as well as may be in such dire circumstances.

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    6/14/2016
    While I would like to say I'm not curious.... of course I am. PM, pretty please!

    PM received, thank you Gonen. Yikes!
    edited by Rupho Schartenhauer on 6/14/2016

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    6/16/2016
    Oh boy, I'm off the forums for a while and what dyo I find upon returning but that SMEN has also returned? Methinks my two lonely candles may need some company...although it may yet take a while to progress....

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    6/26/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    Important question: I have like 3 years worth of life goals left for my character, but now that SMEN is back I just want to go NORTH while its still fresh and new. I'm wondering if I should fate rush (expensively) 3 years of plans into like a month or if I should just drop everything and go now, restarting these plans on an alt who would take like 7 years to do these same things instead of 3.

    Goals:
    1. Second heptagoat - Im about halfway there, but with like $1000 of fate I could conceivably reach this goal asap from fate expeditions. Expensive, but dang would it look cool on my mantle after I've gone. This was my goal to complete over the next year.
    2. 7 of all the 4 card lodgings to throw down the well. I've got 7 of every other lodgings, but the 4 carders are mad expensive so I hadn't done it year. This was my plan for the second year. I will probably abandon this plan since I'm throwing lodgings down the well in the future anyways and it would take too long.
    3. Make 7 of every item that its possible to make 7 of. I can get really close to this if I make a lot of echos as mentioned in goal 1 above, make the 7s, then sell the items for the goats. It might not be ~every~ item, but it would be pretty close! This was year 3's plan (so that it could be done at the -same time- and co-exist with the 2 goats).

    I want to do all of these things, but at the same time the lure of the NORTH is very strong. I definitely can't wait three years, and probably not even one. I feel like, if I'm not on a dedicated seeking grind in like a month I might go mad haha. But dang, to do my goals in that time frame- it's a lot of cash dollars. But 2 goats man. 2 goats, how cool would that be aaaa.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016


    If you're asking for opinions, here's mine.

    I agree with Gonen: 2 Heptagoats would be cool. But nowhere near as cool as getting the FIRST EVER HEPTAGOAT. Is having a Heptagoat worth $1,000 in real money?

    If it were me, I'd go with the set of goals that was both faster and cheaper to obtain, since they're all cool goals.

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    9/12/2017
    earthbourn wrote:
    Does "Who is Salt?" have unique ending text as well?


    [spoiler] Yes, it does. PM me if you'd like to see it. [/spoiler]

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    8/12/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    I just took mine off and nothing happened.


    Yes, that's what Spacemarine9 (and several other people, I think) have reported. Interesting. Usually FBG's dire warnings are true and serious.

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    11/6/2016
    You know, it used to be whenever I heard someone moan about the terrible RNG mechanics of Winking Isle, I thought to myself "oh come on, it can't be that bad!"

    ... after just three days in that cursed place I can say with confidence that Hell is real and its name is Winking Isle. It's worse than anything I could've imagined in my darkest nightmares. Honestly, how do people achieve anything there? SMEN 77 never seemed farther away...

    Curse you, (Ex-)Tiger!

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    Alexis Kennedy
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    6/9/2016
    bjorntfh wrote:
    It's rewarding. I'm now at 24. And I have spent almost 20k Echoes so far!



    That is solid work! Well done.

    Incidentally I hate to bring a possible downer, but I should point out that 28 has never been a significant number in Eaten lore. You can probably conjecture some. But, you know, things change.
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    8/29/2016
    Well, I'm a candle now. Naively I thought that the nuked opportunity deck penalty only applied when you had your head unequipped, but nope, it's there forever.

    Pretty sure this has been asked already, but does going North and/or turning back remove all your candles? I'm hoping to see if the Mr. Eaten's Name tattoo option is still available come February...

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    2/14/2017
    Yeah, I was holding off on going North until Millicent showed up, in case I could get a tattoo... Nothing from her, as you already said, then I went North and got my Knock, nothing else there either.

    I just assumed she meant that I wouldn't find the Name with her, and what she was implying was that I'd have to go North. But I'm still really curious about the whole tattoo thing, since it was such an important part of the Torment destiny... Unless that part is clarified for people who actually went past the Gate.
    edited by Shadowhand on 2/14/2017

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    8/3/2016
    Once you pass through the Gate you are done. You cannot go back to playing like you would before on that account. If that doesn't appeal to you then you can always turn back from the Gate, retaining your ability to play and seeing most of the SMEN content (plus a souvenir).

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    6/15/2016
    you can also sacrifice a healthy noman (at least 77 points of Noman's Friend), which I forgot to mention, but it's the wrong season anyhow

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    6/13/2016
    get on irc and i will personally scream eighteen billion different things i lost or need to lose

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    7/18/2016
    Cranston Pickle, going insane is easiest; you can also get Wounds 8, which is what I did the first time I did the Carnival, lo these many years ago!

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    7/19/2016
    ah ha ha guess who forgot that the +7 Seeking option on Winking Isle locked at Seeking 70 and built up enough F&M for it at Seeking 72?

    *head-desk*

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    7/4/2016
    FYI: you can Snub an Acquaintance who has gone NORTH, or at least I just snubbed Spacemarine9, so having people snub you to make room on their Acquaintance cap is not a necessary part of one's NORTH preparations. (I had my protege drop me just in case they couldn't afterward, but probably that wasn't necessary either.)

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    7/18/2016
    Catherine Raymond, that's so sweet, thank you!

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    7/18/2016
    Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
    So I've seen the actions involved with getting Saint Gaiwan's Candle, but I only know one of the possible costs and consequences. Would anyone mind enlightening me?

    [spoiler]It looks like DemonicFerret echoed sacrificing the priest, and Hans Serpico echoed sacrificing the guardian. They both went NORTH so they must've got St Gawain's Candle out of it, but they didn't include any notes with their echoes.[/spoiler]
    edited by an_ocelot on 7/18/2016

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    1/24/2017
    Gone NORTH. There are lies, of course. But the sentiment is sincere.

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    6/15/2016
    Cerise requires "An Overgoat, or an Ubergoat, or a Classic Short Story, or 7 Fluke-Cores, or your daughter."

    *turns to literary endeavours*

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    5/10/2018
    I was curious so I updated the spreadsheet; at Watchful 305 I estimate 1,368,059 Appalling Secrets needed to go from Seeking 4 to 77. (Forgot to change the sum formula, which gives a very different result!)

    You're missing that each attempt is not 77 Secrets, it's 77 times your original level of SMEN, I think?

    (You'll need to make a copy and change the Watchful value in the resulting copy; I leave it at 200 just because it seems like a useful number.)
    edited by Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) on 5/10/2018
    edited by Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) on 5/10/2018

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    7/1/2016
    Guy Scrum, I did get some Connections back after tanking them to get St Beau's, so yeah, I could do that! I don't want to do menace-area stuff, though, since I need to be in the Fifth City for the Cider party.

    I did think about leaving Seeking until after the Ambitions were complete, but the lure of taking Cider NORTH and of starting fresh and seeing all the shiny new stuff (I can't run two characters at once, I've tried) was too much.

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    7/27/2016
    dov wrote:
    3. You can only use the option with 60000 F&M if you're SMEN level is below 29 :-)
    I think you mean, is at or below 70 . . .
    edited by an_ocelot on 7/27/2016

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    6/9/2016
    the forums software fights back
    edited by Spacemarine9 on 6/9/2016

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    2/2/2018
    Skinnyman wrote:
    Optimatum wrote:
    You don't even have to fail luck checks. You'll go through Preparations far more than seven times to reach SMEN 77.

    Wait, you need to do the preparation phase every time you reset your feasting?

    Yes, when you spend F&M to raise SMEN the quality resets. Then you have to go through the preparation phase again before you can use the options at the Well.

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    6/8/2016
    AT LAST A RECKONING.

    I'm rousing my sacrificial alt from his prayers right now. Hungry, Weft? You will be.

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    6/10/2016
    Alexis Kennedy wrote:
    (boom)


    (how many people actually have one? I have limited access to the DB these days)

    Poor Hannah, I gave her that rat of glory as a welcome to the community gift on her very first Ratmas.

    Whoops haha. Sorry I exploded u.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/10/2016

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    7/11/2017
    gronostaj wrote:
    I had no luck finding the answer through the forum's search enginge, so- has anyone went NORTH with st Erzulie's acquired via "(there is an alternative.)" and if so, are there any significant differences/consequences later on? I'm fishing for a yes or no answer mostly, not spoilers- just curious whether this choice actually matters.

    I don't think there's any impact whatsoever.

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    6/13/2016
    I'll be off work and on IRC in about 6 hours. I'll catch up with you then if you are still awake haha.

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    6/26/2016
    Important question: I have like 3 years worth of life goals left for my character, but now that SMEN is back I just want to go NORTH while its still fresh and new. I'm wondering if I should fate rush (expensively) 3 years of plans into like a month or if I should just drop everything and go now, restarting these plans on an alt who would take like 7 years to do these same things instead of 3.

    Goals:
    1. Second heptagoat - Im about halfway there, but with like $1000 of fate I could conceivably reach this goal asap from fate expeditions. Expensive, but dang would it look cool on my mantle after I've gone. This was my goal to complete over the next year.
    2. 7 of all the 4 card lodgings to throw down the well. I've got 7 of every other lodgings, but the 4 carders are mad expensive so I hadn't done it year. This was my plan for the second year. I will probably abandon this plan since I'm throwing lodgings down the well in the future anyways and it would take too long.
    3. Make 7 of every item that its possible to make 7 of. I can get really close to this if I make a lot of echos as mentioned in goal 1 above, make the 7s, then sell the items for the goats. It might not be ~every~ item, but it would be pretty close! This was year 3's plan (so that it could be done at the -same time- and co-exist with the 2 goats).

    I want to do all of these things, but at the same time the lure of the NORTH is very strong. I definitely can't wait three years, and probably not even one. I feel like, if I'm not on a dedicated seeking grind in like a month I might go mad haha. But dang, to do my goals in that time frame- it's a lot of cash dollars. But 2 goats man. 2 goats, how cool would that be aaaa.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016

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    8/15/2017
    Pumpkinhead wrote:
    You actually gain Destin's as an item when you get torment, right? Does changing your destiny specifically remove it? Otherwise I would assume you'd keep it.

    Yes, it's an item.

    All I know is that at one point someone has tried this, and reported on the forum that they lost Destin after switching destines.

    That was a long time ago, so who knows? It might have changed...

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    7/2/2016
    I believe they are only required for Saint Arthur. I haven't seen anything else within smen's main storyline that requires them.

    Side note: I was able to complete my 7th rosette, thanks everyone who assisted! Also I'm only two levels of notability away from completing the 11th masters blood. I spent a bit of fate to speed it up because I'm getting really impatient with delays to smen haha.
    edited by NiteBrite on 7/2/2016

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    9/4/2017
    Optimatum wrote:
    I *think* NiteBrite used their Cerise to Light a Taper and got a new one, so would have been able to check.

    I did indeed light cerise,which is something you can only do if you have cerise before you should have cerise (i.e. if you have it from old smen). [spoiler]It was effectively a -reverse- taper. I can indeed confirm that there was no heptagoat option. Believe me. I tried!

    I remember in the past way way back, changing your destiny at all would just automatically remove the destin candle, even if you didnt have torment and got the candle via a different method. This is likely still true as you can't reset your destiny once you have obscurity, but since its fate and I haven't tested it recently I'm not sure.[/spoiler]

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    7/18/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    (Y'all, everyone else has already read the echoes of the trailblazers, but I deliberately did not, and the writing is SO. GOOD. Five more levels of Seeking and I can go NORTH. I can't wait.)


    I'm right there with you, I also avoided spoilers for the most part. I'm at smen 65, and will get 8 levels when I go for Erzulie through Gawain in one big rush towards the end. So just one more loop of WI, and the act of nabbing the final candles is all I have left before I can follow. But I'm right behind you in spirit haha.

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    I've gone North! Turns out turning back is harder than you'd think. That Gate was just too tantalising, just standing there waiting for someone to knock on it.

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    6/13/2016
    I'm telling you: coin flip on wether ro use it or not. 75% of the time, it works all the time.

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    9/22/2016
    Welp, I guess I will buy an Overgoat to throw in there instead. I couldn't wait 2 weeks to get another Trade Secret - anyway I think it would only give me another few % at the attempt. Seeking, an exercise in frustration and failure smile

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    6/13/2016
    Yeah, I got a single point each of SMEN and UP. The only advantage seems to be the watchful challenge difficulty, but... well let's do some math.

    St. Cerise's unlocks at SMEN 27, so let's say that's what you're going for. Some helpful folk have already pegged Drowning Secrets at a watchful difficulty of SMEN*20, so it's a watchful 520 challenge. At my own watchful of about 275, that means just about a 30% chance of success.

    At 30% we'll probably need to play the option about 3.3 times, and it requires 26*77 = 2,002 Appalling Secrets with a market value of 300.3 echoes. So Drowning Secrets is expected to cost us about 1,000 echoes worth of materials.

    For comparison, going from SMEN 6 to 7 already cost me 1,155 echoes via Setting Fires. Even if the watchful challenge remained at 100%, Setting Fires would cost 26*77*2.5 = 5,005 echoes in Mourning Candles to go from 26 to 27.

    (To be fair, you can grind Mourning Candles at a better epa than you can grind Appalling Secrets... but not nearly by enough of a margin to balance it out.)

    Drowning is definitely the way to go from what we've seen. Although I am reasonably close to 182 enigmas, maybe once I get there I'll try to go from SMEN 26 to SMEN 27 the absurdly expensive way just to see if anything special happens. (Pro Tip: Oh no man no way I won't)
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    6/9/2016
    Sara Hysaro wrote:
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    6/23/2016
    Ian Hart wrote:


    I would assume 2 refers to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridatism the practice of ingesting small amounts of poison to develop a tolerance to it. How that relates mechanically is beyond me, but I'm only Seeking 3.

    5 presumably refers to the requirement to give up your ship before sailing North, which I think we already knew was a thing.

    6 sounds like a huge lore bomb unless we already knew the Treacheries had done something in Vienna, and to White in Frostfound. Also from my second hand knowledge, I didn't think we knew the White had ever been to the Neath, much less Frostfound. I thought that was Salt, and I thought he was a servant of the White, not the White himself.

    [spoiler] I assumed that 2 has something to do with the Presbyterate's Mithradate Office, which spreads disinformation. There's a link to Salt from colonizing Aestival, and also to the White, given 6 and the guy you find in the South.
    For 6 proper, I understood it as a reference to the characteristic of the Neath and Frostfound in particular which compresses and confuses identities?
    Any ideas for internal architecture, or sand?


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    7/31/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Yes, time to test. *Drinks a bottle of it for Echo's sake*





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    12/20/2016
    If you're already got the first 3 candles (St Arthur at SMEN 21, St Beau at SMEN 24, and St Cerise at SMEN 27), you should now have a one-time cheap option to raise SMEN from 28 to 29. If yo udon't have those yet, acquiring any of these candles gives a point of SMEN.

    Other than that, it's indeed time to head to Winking Isle.

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    7/19/2017
    Dudebro Pyro wrote:
    How numbing are we talking here?

    Some might call it boring. Others might call it soul-crushing.

    First, you need to get rid of lots of various items if you have any of them (all recoverable, but potentially at great cost, and some only with Fate). Specifically, you must not have any of the items listed here.

    Then, you have to engage in a fierce battle with the RNG, using an array of luck challenges to increase (or decrease) a quality until it's high enough to give you more levels of Seeking. Then repeat. And repeat. And repeat.

    At a bare minimum, you'll need to increase your SMEN level by 35 on Winking Isle. *On average* you should expect each SMEN level to take ~32 actions (though you'll encounter both lucky and unlucky streaks).

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    8/12/2017
    You only need to get rid of Favours. No need (and indeed there is no way) to reduce Renown.

    Same for Favours: The Docks.

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    1/5/2017
    Lou Grace wrote:
    Dear Seekers, I've just gotten to SMEN 12 and I have to choose between Grieve and Hate. I have yet to raise Heartless or Melancholy high enough to select either but obviously the easier option is getting Heartless to 7 for Hate, but I really want to pick Grieve. I know I have the option to switch between them later on in the storyline, but is the requirement going to be the same anyway? I seem to remember someone mentioning that you can change your question later but will I still need the required quirk number to do so?

    I haven't reached that point myself, but was told that when later you get the option to change, there's no quirk requirement involved.

    Also, if you haven't played yet the Day 9 Mr Sacks card, the SMEN option there will not only give you a free SMEN point (and some Nightmares), but will also set your "A Question" quality to the same result as "Grieve", thus freeing you from chasing quirks for now just to pick A Question.

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    2/14/2017
    Shadowhand wrote:
    But I'm still really curious about the whole tattoo thing, since it was such an important part of the Torment destiny... Unless that part is clarified for people who actually went past the Gate.

    Alexis has already explicitly stated that the Torment destiny is not a real thing. You can't get the tattoo and experience what you see in Torment.

    Not-Lilac also explicitly states that you can't get such a tattoo.

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    2/14/2017
    Well, *obviously* you need to be a Paramount Presence in order to get the tattoo. It's elementary.

    And in the very slim chance that this doesn't work (though why wouldn't it?), adding 50 Fabulous Diamonds and 7 heptagoats will definitely do the trick. Surely.

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    9/27/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Any suggestions for additional grindable ways to get "...unexpected" bundles?

    I haven't tried this myself, but if you don't mind a bit of piracy, you can go out zailing, and look for this card's option:
    http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Hoist_the_black_flag

    Obviously, it comes at the expense of other London cards, but the deck size while at Zee is much smaller, so you might draw it more often.

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    6/26/2016
    an_ocelot wrote:
    (I have tried to update the wiki for St Arthur's Candle, which is in progress for me, but I find it unintuitive and stressful, so please feel free to tidy up after me, I have zero pride of authorship here!)

    I'll try to do some cleanup, but what's missing is the correct image which goes with the various options.

    Also: Does this appear as a standalone storylet called "St Arthur's Candle" in the lodgings? Or is this something inside The Seeking Road?

    Also #2: Can you find/link the images associated with the "A Stench of Betrayal" and "Footsteps of the False Saints" qualities/items?

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    6/30/2016
    Inthrall wrote:
    So I've restarted seeking and previously had it at 7 from a few years ago, but I'm unsure how I progress from here. I previously was working towards 7 stains/scars/chains, is that still a thing?

    It is, but it comes later.

    Most of the progress will be via The Seeking Road storylet in your lodgings. You can increase your SMEN level by spending more and more resources (at worse and worse odds). Be careful, as some of these options are completely disproportionately expensive.

    At the proper SMEN levels, more options will open (such as getting stains/scars/chains, etc.).

    You can also gain a SMEN level by special options on new menace cards which appear if you have Unaccountably Peckish, but you can only use these options once a week.

    Good luck!

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    7/1/2016
    Beau Mercy wrote:
    I find that I keep accidentally seeking Mr. Eaten's name. I'll get a black bordered card, it won't be clear which option is which, and I take a hit to a stat every time. Harrumph.

    How are you accidentally starting Seeking?

    The black bordered cards show up if you have Unaccountably Peckish (the higher the quality, more cards can appear). All the cards have options which lower UP, though for cards 3-6 this can hit your stats or give menaces (or both). For the other black cards, there are safe options to lower UP. You can check the wiki.

    But even better: if you have access to the first coil of the Labyrinth of Tigers, taking refreshments there lowers two levels of UP. Just do this a few times, get rid of your UP and the cards won't bother you again. (unless you choose to start Seeking via the Forgotten Quarter option, or by accepting a betrayal request from another Seeker).

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    6/10/2016
    Let me just say, "Thank you for Everything Alexis."

    It means so much to me, and we'll always have Paris, won't we.
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    6/17/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    Any ideas on how to conveniently increase Unaccountably Peckish so that I can get Knave of Regrets? I've yet to obtain a Starveling Cat, and my Scandal's getting pretty high.


    Check your inbox - I sent you a Cat.

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    6/30/2016
    You can ditch one proscribed material at the cost of one action. This is fine if you're off by seven; it's rather unpleasant if you're off by 1000.

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    12/9/2016
    Certain connection items you can buy in the Bazaar for close to their sell value are a good way to store your funds. I personally used Rookery Passwords.

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    6/13/2016
    Also, some of us have never had IRC work properly on their computers.

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    6/10/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    [spoiler]Good news, sending Mr Eaten's calling card to other players works now! Bad news, sending the card sets your cards to 0. Haha, 3 cards just poofed out of existence as easy as they came into existence in the first place. Farewell, my 4x Mr Eaten's calling cards. You served me well these many years... and I totally forgot to check if winking isle was back before I passed it on haha, rip.[/spoiler]


    Wait, you still had some of those? I thought they all got taken away. Mine certainly did.

    P.S. I am so glad I do not carry unexploded rodents with me. 'twould be a great shame for the only Fortigan's candle to go up in smoke.

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    3/26/2017
    It showed up in the "Who else is here?" list in my Lodgings, presumably because whoever made the account had to record that line to the journal regularly.

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    3/14/2017
    If you're planning on going all the way NORTH anyways, it's much easier to get Destin's through Torment than Notability. So it really depends on whether you would rather go NORTH as soon as possible or go NORTH with a minimum of grinding.

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    3/28/2017
    You can't perhaps not out of A Bad End, actually. I just checked.

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    5/8/2017
    Mistakes? I assure you, all my terrible choices are precisely calculated. Throwing ~11k echoes of Fluke-Core down a well for three sentences of unique text was entirely worth it :P

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    4/6/2018
    Rostygold wrote:
    Optimatum wrote:
    SMEN's writing is visceral and unsettling—it can evoke emotion even without the full context.

    It stops being unsettling for me after St. Destin's candle. I like the parts about the player character going mad and self-destructive (and because I chose to have him/her/it turn this way), e.g. having him/her/it eat its own teeth, and I can understand why: this fool is desperately looking to somehow gain more knowledge about Mr. Eaten.

    (Incidentally, there are relatively easy ways to raise Seeking from 1 to 28; only patience is needed.)

    Yet, the gibberish about White, the Chain and such other wildly swinging references to other parts of the Echo Bazaar lore was unpleasant to me



    Honestly, the cryptic deep lore is a pretty small fraction of SMEN. Given you turned back, the only parts I'm aware of are:
    • The cryptic bits interspersed with the Arthur betrayals
    • Winking Isle's occasional oblique references to things like the Treacheries
    • The Lessons of the Chapel for Fortigan, which were lifted almost word for word from Sunless Sea, and are a Neath-flavored version of Incomprehensible Religious Ceremonies. (I feel like you'd like the SSea failure results, which just complain about the services being unintelligible.)
    • A couple brief comments by Nicator

    So I'm confused as to why you see SMEN as dominated by the lore fragments. If the issue is the amount of time stuck with Winking Isle's weirdness, sure. If you mean that SMEN's writing is often confusing, I agree—it's written to be otherworldly and dreamlike in contrast to the more literal, straightforward style the rest of the game employs. But most of the vagueness adds fragments to the narrative of Seeking, with little requiring outside knowledge to understand.


    (Incidentally, I'm disappointed that the optimal approach for Erzulie, even ignoring Obscurity, outright skips most of the writing. There's some delightfully creepy text there.)

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    7/29/2016
    elvor wrote:
    So having reached SMEN 25, is there any point in Unaccountably Peckish any more? Can I finally reduce it to clear my hand of black borders?

    You don't need UP any time outside drawing the cards to increase SMEN every week. After Time the Healer each week, I just talk to my Starveling Cat through Bats and Cats in the Flit, then after increasing SMEN I get some refreshments from the Labyrinth to remove my UP.

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    7/18/2016
    As I understand, the other two options just give the quality directly rather than an equippable item with it.

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    7/8/2016
    All three endings and turning back have been done. You can even see the echoes of whoever turned back on their mantlepiece; nothing particularly special there.

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    7/31/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Shalinoth wrote:
    Yes, time to test. *Drinks a bottle of it for Echo's sake*




    Well that's a set-to-zero all right.

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    2/26/2017
    Pumpkinhead wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    It'll take ages n' ages.

    Someone was working on it, I think.

    Optimatum, I believe. I think they had 6 Fluke Cores and 1 of the ...green thingies whose name escapes me at the moment... last time I saw.
    Edit: Oh yes, fecund amber
    edited by Pumpkinhead on 2/24/2017



    I'm up to 6 Fluke-Cores and 4 Fecund Amber now.

    Grenem wrote:
    Teaspoon wrote:
    It'll take ages n' ages.

    Someone was working on it, I think.

    it's only 42 draws of a certain card in the nadir, though. I mean, that's not trivial, or exactly quick, but someone could have done it already if they started at seeking's debut



    I had one Fluke-Core and one Fecund Amber when SMEN returned. Since then I've visited the Nadir every single week, using a five-card lodgings, playing every Do you recall... card I draw, leaving only at Irrigo 9. I'm still two more draws of the card away from being done. I could be done by now if I was willing to play Do you recall... at Irrigo 9, but I've only even had that option a couple times. So no, if someone started the grind when SMEN returned - started from scratch that is, not starting partway done - it would take a hell of a lot of luck to be done by now.

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    2/15/2017
    I want to know why Failbetter added the Name as a possible tattoo value if it's not possible lore-wise, and seemingly not mechanically possible either. I'd like to hunt for hidden options, but I'm nowhere close.

    Next we'll be looking for a Paramount Presence tattoo and a Mr Eaten's Name PoSI specialization :P

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    1/31/2017
    It's possible to echo text from other StoryNexus games to the journal. I suspect Estelle has been making one for this joke.

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    3/29/2017
    I'm fairly certain that the Fidgeting Writer is a better source of Enigmas than the Truthbreaker Turbine on average. It can be pretty high-variance if you're only trying to get a few, though. The Turbine is incredibly inefficient overall, so despite being one of the easiest grindable sources of Enigmas, it's also one of the worst.

    laskaris wrote:
    I think it takes huffing Tears of the Bazaar to get above Melancholy 10? Something absurd and expensive.

    Tears and other lacre-related things (such as that one Nadir option) work, as does the KNAVE OF REGRETS option. There's a few other ways scattered around I believe, though I forget which exactly.

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    9/13/2016
    You can sacrifice an Overgoat, Ubergoat, Classic Short Story, Daughter, and presumably Fluke-cores or Noman. All give one level of SMEN, except the Ubergoat, which therefore prevents use of the "free" level at 28. The story is definitely the easiest option, aside from Noman and Daughter which aren't possible for everyone.

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    9/29/2016
    Grenem wrote:
    The last material candle, as far as i can tell, is the notability one. If there's any fate professions that give extra actions, that'd be best. If that's not the case, then it's ultimately unlikely to matter, unless you want to help out other seekers with calling cards, in which case anything that gives lots of secrets or incubatula.

    There are no fate-locked professions.

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    9/14/2016
    You can reach SMEN 28 with the cards - each one will increase your SMEN if it's no more than the card's UP unlock times three. So the final card unlocked with UP 9 will worth with SMEN >= 27.

    (And yes, removing your UP after getting the weekly level is a good idea. The best method is taking refreshments in the Labyrinth first coil.)

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    9/20/2016
    I have not yet gone NORTH, actually. For minmaxing purposes I haven't even picked up Arthur yet, though I have all the betrayals completed.

    For Gawain, you can choose to sacrifice yourself, the priest at the Chapel, or the bone golem. All three choices work equally well, mechanically.

    If I understand right, you're referring to something the Millicent-ghost stuck with St Erzulie's Candle says. Which passage(s) do you mean?

    Well is the quality tracking progress, starting with going south to initiate Gawain and ending with going NORTH. "stars" is the quality description for having completed.

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    9/16/2016
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    Optimatum, doesn't Footsteps of the False saints require you to already have Arthur's? Or is it gained while grinding Stains on your soul perhaps? I forget where I had it, and the wiki only says it's part of the Chapel arc leading to Forthigan's.


    Footsteps of the false saints are used both for Arthur's Candle and the Chapel of Lights, after you betray someone or something you get a quality that you exchange for the footsteps, 7 footsteps and you get Arthur's Candle.

    This is correct. The process to get Arthur used to have various betrayals which increased Marsh-Mired directly; now the various betrayals give a Stench of Betrayal which is then used to increase Footsteps of the False Saints, the replacement quality for Marsh-Mired. Forthigan also uses Footsteps as a progress quality.

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    8/23/2016
    BOOM!

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    8/27/2016
    Note that quitting through A Bad End doesn't actually remove every single item and candle. It removes most of them, but things like The Hollow Heart, A Book of Crimson Prayer, and both Erzulie and Forthigan are left untouched.

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    8/28/2016
    Yeah, it's to guarantee it instead of failing the Luck check over and over while accumulating Nightmares. It was a more relevant problem in Old SMEN, when you had to wait to draw the card each time instead of obtaining it through The Seeking Road.

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    8/11/2016
    Suinicide: No, you could skip the option at 101 FaM, as the option after that (the one for TSBtS?) is 111 FaM. It wouldn't be skipping any huge losses though as the rarest item there is a Starstone Demark.

    Quitting Seeking is done in all cases through A Bad End; options like the one under A Seeking Road and turning back redirect to that event. It removes Peckish, all three of Scars, Chains, and Stains, St Arthur's, Beau's, Cerise's, Destin's, and Gawain's Candles, the Conversation with a Lady quality from the Carnival at Midnight, and possibly other things added since then. In other words, keeping the items and qualities requires quitting Seeking informally, permanently leaving The Seeking Road in your lodgings. The only way to keep items and get rid of The Seeking Road is going all the way NORTH, turning back, and refusing to quit.
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    8/19/2016
    Gonen wrote:
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    Probably someone asked, and got answered, but I cannot find it. What is the best way to grind Starveling Cats? I'll need 7 of those, am I right?


    You only need 4 (3 go missing and you need a 4th to finish the job) and you can get them from the soul staining card. There are a variety of random things you can buy them with like baptized ratus faber corpses but by far the most accessible is 77 Brilliant Souls which you can get from thefts of a particular character in the flit.



    Ah, thank you!
    Does that option to buy them appear when I'm out of Cats? Don't see that option now...


    Correct. All the cat purchasing options are locked when you already have a cat.

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    8/29/2016
    The Master wrote:
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    Well, I'm a candle now. Naively I thought that the nuked opportunity deck penalty only applied when you had your head unequipped, but nope, it's there forever.

    Pretty sure this has been asked already, but does going North and/or turning back remove all your candles? I'm hoping to see if the Mr. Eaten's Name tattoo option is still available come February...


    Actually, can't you recover your deck by going into a flash lay? (And if not, does your deck only get "broken" if you choose to cut of your own head?).


    My Alt had the same thing happen with one of the other options. I can't remember exactly what fixed it but it wasn't a flashlay. I think anything that switches you onto a different deck like zailing also fixes it. Might have even been a menace state. Like so many things, memory fades. The broad point is that the deck bug is easily corrected. Just try to get out of London's main area and then come back.

    As to whether or not you can turn back and keep your candles, I haven't done it myself but from discussion earlier in the thread it sounds like the answer is yes. That said, if you want to try the tattoo option you're probably better off just waiting. We don't know what state that option is in now that Seeking's back. It could have additional requirements or it might have been removed entirely.

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    9/20/2016
    This is just a general reminder that Winking Isle is a special kind of hell. I have a second character going through it and it is every bit as bad as I remember if not worse.

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    As a non-seeker, thank you! I look forward to your posts in colored bold type.

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    I'm kinda panicking because I lent someone my cat and urgently need one for my Marsh-Mired before TtH kicks in. Anyone at the right stage to send me one?
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    Dipping back into London after a while out, but assuming this is still a standard starveling cat, one is winging its malevolent way to you. Grateful to get it out of the pantry.
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    6/10/2016
    Maybe this question warrants its own thread, but what's the fastest way to grind Watchful? I got a little greedy with the "Blacken your Mind Like Paper" option and it's hard to progress with a Watchful of 23.

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    6/23/2016
    Alexis has posted clues having something to do with the the story and how you navigate it. And in traditional Alexis fashion they are about as clear as an obsidian window smeared with paint. I can't really make sense of this yet but maybe I'm just now far enough into Seeking yet? I'll be interested to see if anyone else knows what's going on here.

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    Gonen wrote:
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    I am beginning to suspect that some routes might be more difficult than others.

    E: The storylet is meant to be called &quotFinal Preparations&quot, and the &quotasking about Matthew&quot path requires that you have no Calling Cards &amp; is no longer Impossible!, so... there's that.
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    I find the fact that you have 7 ambition enigma interesting...


    YES! Why is that ignored?


    Oh no. This is a bad time for my enigma addiction to kick in again. *goes to check all the usual places for clues*

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    6/14/2016
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    I've realized something. People have been saying Seeking wasn't de-fanged, but that's not quite true. It's a difference in behavior. The old Seeking bit you, and was hard to let go. This is different, more like you're putting your finger in its mouth. Yes, it bites harder, but it didn't really have to bite in the first place. After all, we could all just use the UP cards to advance slowly, since some of them have caps at 14 and possibly even higher; we don't accept that though.We're eager to find victory, and every moment its delayed is a moment our curiosity lies unsated. Soon, I think I will slow down my Seeking...probably. In a strange way, it's fun putting my finger in this beast's mouth.


    The seeking road truly is like that scene in The Quest for the Holy Grail where monks are chanting and bashing themselves in the face with books. And I do get the feeling that seeking may be a slow and steady wins the race type of affair when it comes to the main quality itself. The faster you try to push through it, the harder it hits you.

    But the seeking road is just one dimension. Then there are the candles. And the island *shivers*. Some of the things it's asking you for go beyond the inconvenience of resources and stats.

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    2/14/2017
    Fun fact. Kept my poor dedicated Seeking alt around to find out about the tattoo. Completely forgot it has been obscured. Can't even open the door to the parlour.

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    2/15/2017
    The deed is done... again. Minimum Viable Seeker has served it's purpose. It asked about Salt and was unceremoniously dumped in a well.

    This is the second character I have consigned to the beyond. I have Grieved and asked about Salt, but Hating is still a mystery to me. If anyone would like to share, and be shared with in return, please send me a PM.

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    1/20/2017
    Crimson Mage wrote:
    Hello! I just obtained St. Gawain's head and obtained my final needed point of SMEN from Winking Isle. So all in all I'm ready for my final preparations.

    However, I don't necessarily go North right this minute. I'm sort of thinking of waiting for the next Ambition update (I didn't get Obscurity). I recognize it might take months or even years before this update, I'm not going to claim or demand it to be sooner, but I am rather invested in that story and don't really want to grind everything up again when I could just start a new one entirely. Should I sacrifice myself to the North right now, or wait?


    If you aren't itching to cast yourself into the abyss I'd recommend at least waiting until the Feast of the Exceptional Rose. We don't know if there will actually be any Seeking related content there. But in previous years there was an impossible option to get The Name tattooed on you that we all (or at least I) am very curious about. I have a character poised on the precipice, waiting to find out if that option is still there. Your close enough you might as well join me.

    As far as ambitions go, I wouldn't hold your breath. I've been here about 4 years now and in that time my ambition has updated a grand total of once. Unless Failbetter has been setting us up for a surprise completion of all the ambitions, I don't expect to see them end any time in the next few years at least. That said, there's no limit on the amount of time you can spend gazing into the void. Wait if you will. Seeking isn't going anywhere.

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    11/3/2016
    Well, the alt I created specifically to send NORTH is finally prepared to make the journey. The aptly named Minimum Viable Seeker was created in mid June and was just beheaded today. So that's about 4 and a half months or 20 weeks end to literal end (it could have been faster if it didn't have to wait for an event to get the Torment destiny). There seems to have been an influx of people completing the journey lately. The Well has gained a number of new names since Hallowmas started.

    Of course, my fun alt, which I'd originally planed to spare, has already gone NORTH so I'm going to let this guy hang around to see if the option to get the name tattooed is still there. In the mean time I may see if it can manage to build a Zubmarine in case there's a way to make the Torment destiny come true. In retrospect, this would have been a lot easier if it hadn't just cut its stats in half.
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    6/17/2016
    Gonen wrote:
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    H? An eighth candle, perhaps?



    That is mind blowing.
    Melt all 7 candles to create the H one. Use yourself as the wick. Be the Seeker of Glory.

    Nah, being a Seeker of Glory is probably what Gawain will end up being. Given the Sunless Sea storyline and that unlike the others Gawain is a quality, not an item.

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    6/16/2016
    You could also, if so inclined, try sacrificing a Daughter. Which may even be replaceable.

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    10/25/2016
    Can confirm that the Grand Hunt is still on, if you sell your soul this Hallowmas while it is stained. Can't confirm whether it triggers while on the fate-locked searching for your soul storyline.

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    6/8/2016
    Ow. I perverted my studies at SMEN 3, which needed SotC 9 (I had 16) and it brought me to SMEN 4... and halved my SotC.

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    6/13/2016
    Aspeon wrote:
    I dread the day when regrinding a hundred levels of Watchful (probably more than once) or sacrificing three 1500E items becomes the economical option. But I wouldn't be surprised if it worked out that it was somehow.

    (I've heard the 4500E option gives you two levels, so if the success rate of the secret-burning check drops to 20% around SMEN 38 it'd be as expensive.)

    That option already is economical, at least in terms of actions spent grinding. More expensive in terms of echoes definitely, but much better for the couple people rushing through everything who already have the necessary scraps and such resources stored up with actions as the limiting factor. Who knew SMEN speedrunning would be such a thing?

    (I guess I already did know, considering NiteBrite basically speedran part of Old SMEN. And considering our cutting-edge Seeker pioneers are doing things like dunking Ubergoats down wells.)
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    6/26/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    Important question: I have like 3 years worth of life goals left for my character, but now that SMEN is back I just want to go NORTH while its still fresh and new. I'm wondering if I should fate rush (expensively) 3 years of plans into like a month or if I should just drop everything and go now, restarting these plans on an alt who would take like 7 years to do these same things instead of 3.

    Goals:
    1. Second heptagoat - Im about halfway there, but with like $1000 of fate I could conceivably reach this goal asap from fate expeditions. Expensive, but dang would it look cool on my mantle after I've gone. This was my goal to complete over the next year.
    2. 7 of all the 4 card lodgings to throw down the well. I've got 7 of every other lodgings, but the 4 carders are mad expensive so I hadn't done it year. This was my plan for the second year. I will probably abandon this plan since I'm throwing lodgings down the well in the future anyways and it would take too long.
    3. Make 7 of every item that its possible to make 7 of. I can get really close to this if I make a lot of echos as mentioned in goal 1 above, make the 7s, then sell the items for the goats. It might not be ~every~ item, but it would be pretty close! This was year 3's plan (so that it could be done at the -same time- and co-exist with the 2 goats).

    I want to do all of these things, but at the same time the lure of the NORTH is very strong. I definitely can't wait three years, and probably not even one. I feel like, if I'm not on a dedicated seeking grind in like a month I might go mad haha. But dang, to do my goals in that time frame- it's a lot of cash dollars. But 2 goats man. 2 goats, how cool would that be aaaa.
    edited by NiteBrite on 6/26/2016

    I'd say if you decide spend a lot of money, goal 1 and goal 3 by extension are the ways to go. Extra lodgings that you'll promptly lose aren't particularly memorable, but being the first to get a Heptagoat and then getting a second is incredibly unique. Plus it's actually something you can display on your mantlepiece :P

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    7/24/2016
    dov wrote:
    Personally, I've used Tears of the Bazaar to raise Melancholy to 12.

    Someone has mentioned, though, that later on in the Seeking there are opportunities to change one's A Question property without the Quirk requirements. I haven't encountered this myself yet.

    This is correct. At one point towards the end of the story, you will be able to choose between Hate and Grieve with the requirements removed, and the third ending if you have the requirement.

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    9/29/2016
    Hobnail wrote:
    I must...rid myself of Docks favours. How?

    Expedition supplies is the simplest, if you have rosty-gold, since you won't need to get rid of the payout. however, you could also trade it in for glim, or, if you have a low enough renown, cash in for renown.

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    8/22/2016
    Drowning Secrets is the best (read: fastest and least expensive) way until 21, but now, if you can find someone to send you a Calling Card, you can go to Winking Isle for much quicker gains.

    Look here for betrayals (you don't get a level per betrayal, RIP): http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22907-smen-betrayals-looking-for-fresh-fresh-betrayals.aspx

    Look here for a calling card: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22517-seeking-a-chain-letter-mr-eatens-calling-card.aspx?page=4#post163048
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    8/20/2016
    This kind of thing is secret and impossible and you should definitely not check your PMs.

    Also, commiserations! You've sent another poor soul to their untimely doom.

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    9/24/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    If I sell all of my stuff and go to Winking Isle, do I need to maintain my impoverished state for all future visits, or can I start rebuilding my collection of useless junk?

    You need to be dirt poor every time you go there, not just the first time, sadly.

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    9/24/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    What does "The Sun beneath the Sea?" do? If anything.

    It allows you to choose "Who Is Salt?" as your question, which dictates which ending you'll receive. The others, Hate and Grieve, are unlocked with quirks and both lead to different endings as well. You get an opportunity to change/lock-in your chosen question later in the story.

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    8/19/2016
    Skinnyman wrote:
    What's Spacemarine9's A moment in Time quality?
    I remember it from FLINT, and maybe from another exceptional story, too. You got the quality after first entering either the Bleeding Forest or the Grey Vineyard IIRC. After doing something that was only possible once, you lost it.

    Which doesn't explain why Space has it now, of course. But maybe his account has been turned into a full dev's account, Key of Dreams and everything, so he can fiddle around with future content.

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    phryne
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    8/22/2016
    @Shalinoth: according to the wiki, it sets everything (including Renown) to Zero. Doesn't seem like a permanent lock wink

    Here's something for those who have already gone through the Gate: I'm currently on a Voyage of Scientific Discovery, and you're all still eligible for the Research-Exchange option! I'd like to know whether you'd actually be able to accept if I sent you one - or are your actions set permanently to Zero?
    It'd be so funny if this would actually work! wink


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    8/16/2016
    Other players have confirmed that you don't have to give up anything to get Erzulie's. You can do that, but it's completely voluntary.
    edited by phryne on 8/16/2016

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    4/5/2018
    Rostygold wrote:
    Good riddance to this story. It was so much incoherent nonsense that is only discernible after piecing together so many things with doles of effort invested into head-hurting narrative hindsight - only an ardent fan of the game's lore would like this, and I am not such a person.



    In my opinion, Seeking is very much a story to play for atmosphere. As you say, some parts are nonsensical without answers from other content, while other parts give cryptic answers to questions posed elsewhere. But it's possible to enjoy without full understanding. SMEN's writing is visceral and unsettling—it can evoke emotion even without the full context.

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    1/31/2017
    Something weird is going on here...

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    Prospero Rune
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    8/13/2017
    This may sound silly, but I was wondering if it would be polite of me to snub acquaintances before going North. I don't want others to get stuck with me as a DEACTIVATEDCHARACTER.

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    Aardent Lore (Gone North).

    Surface business will draw us away from FL for an undetermined period of time. Forgive us if we cannot respond to social requests in a timely manner.
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    Docteur
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    6/26/2016
    You now have 1 x The Sun beneath the Sea?

    Well then.


    This also happens to be my 77th post.
    edited by Docteur on 6/26/2016

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    Prospero Rune
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    9/4/2017
    Aardent has gone North.

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    Aardent Lore (Gone North).

    Surface business will draw us away from FL for an undetermined period of time. Forgive us if we cannot respond to social requests in a timely manner.
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    Grenem
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    6/11/2016
    Cimanyd wrote:
    Nigel Overstreet wrote:
    Folks looking for chess partners might find this to be agood place to start: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic148-find-friends-for-sparring-dinners-chess--theft.aspx?Page=49


    That looks more like it's for normal people, who want friends, a few second chances here and there for actual use as second chances, trading menace reduction, etc.

    I was thinking of making a thread in the Mandrake specifically for trading large amounts of second chance actions for gaining stats back, to help those of us with blackened minds. Any reason not to?

    Well, there are probably going to be options to allow penalizing seekers who are sufficiently far entrenched for personal gain. I would not be surprised if the progress points all result in some variant of this becoming available. creating a listing of seeking players in one handy place would be like herding fish into a barrel. I'm probably... actually, probably not being paranoid.

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    Grenem
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    7/4/2016
    The event going on now is, in addition to everything else, for a disinterested seeker, the perfect chance to speed up getting a perfect short story. instead of needing to gather trade secrets, you can just collect an absurd number of case notes. 100 case notes will be more than sufficient to ensure a pain-free short story creation.

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    8/1/2016
    Also for connected items: do not use pulsating amber, as you have to sell that for part of winking isle.
    edited by suinicide on 8/1/2016

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    8/12/2016
    Its still an option, but it requires 12 notability now, and doesn't need connected society.

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    8/3/2017
    Almost everyone with a heptagoat has gone north, so I think they've checked.

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    6/27/2017
    Eventually? Yes, the account will be unplayable. The more immediate concern is spending all of your resources on a tedious grind to harm yourself.

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    7/10/2016
    Just so, so many appalling secrets. Just so many. I've lost about 10000 today alone.
    Maybe a 500 mourning candles. Just enough to see the option. And 70 searing enigmas, for the same reason, and 14 could come in handy at later points.
    edited by suinicide on 7/10/2016

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    Hobnail
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    11/6/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    A huge thank you to Hobnail for inflicting me with such delicious damage to my levels (and incidentally, Destin's Candle!) Big Grin

    Consider me your menace-munching punching bag and social-valet for a while.

    Now, if anyone's feeling generous, Jack of Smiles and Jack of Chimes would like Destin's too.. but there are others above me here who asked first. Thanks again!

    *Skips off to light the candle, singing: Remember, Remember, the 5th of November.. *


    Oh so very pleased to help...now HEED ME WELL. On Winking Isle there is an option that warns "You will lose no candle". This is VERY LITERAL. DESTIN'S IS NO CANDLE! Oh suffer, suffer, suffer...

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    6/8/2016
    WE BURN! OH WHAT INCENSE IS MY FLESH!

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    Scienceandponies
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    10/10/2016
    absimiliard wrote:
    Scienceandponies wrote:

    Ah, I received a similar note and clicked it out of morbid curiosity. Upon discovering my new status, I quickly nope-ed out of there and everything is fine now, but how easy will it be to change my mind in the future if madness overtakes me and I decide to join the rest of you self-immolating lunatics?


    It's not so easy to escape the Name. It keeps coming back for my character in dreams, and elsewhere. I've gotten on and off the Seeking Road so many times now ... and each of them hurts. (blasted scalding tea)

    So I'm fairly sure one can Always choose to self-destruct.


    Good to know. I tell myself that one day I might start seeking, but I know it shall always be "as soon as get that cider...and a Heptagoat...and after my ambition gets updated and reaches something resembling a resolution." But, you know, then I'll totally get on burning it all down. I just have to do EVERYTHING first (even the stuff that is continually being worked on and updated).
    edited by Scienceandponies on 10/10/2016
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    Jarvind
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    6/8/2016
    Holy smokes. I was pumping up Unaccountably Peckish just for giggles with the Dinner with Devils card, because I had no idea what it was for. Suddenly my opportunity deck is lousy with these things.

    Incidentally, teeth are surprisingly tasty.
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    Hobnail
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    10/25/2016
    St. Destin's. I admit I only assumed this candle came from the Isle. Oh we've given so much.

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    6/9/2016
    I think the lodging thing pops up at SMEN 2.

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    6/8/2016
    Does anyone know if folding the note in "Two of bats" stops you from seeking the name? I'd like to get it out of my hand, but I'm a bit unsure.

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    8/27/2016
    Stains are an item under curiosity, and you should know the number you need. (Yes)

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    Barse
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    7/14/2016
    Gonen wrote:
    Choosing Hate/Grieve does not lock me later on out of Salt question, right?

    Not at all: in fact, you need to choose either Hate or Grieve to unlock the Salt question, and you can change questions at numerous points, at least once with all of the quirk requirements removed.

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    8/10/2016
    I did it. Suinicide has all seven candles. Now there's only one last thing to do.

    Patiently wait until February so I can get that tattoo.
    edited by suinicide on 8/10/2016

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    JimmyTMalice
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    8/12/2016
    Shalinoth wrote:
    @Jimmy I heard buying the 62E Connection items* are the best money-saver for selling up and going to the isle, if one plans to Turn Back.

    *Bright Brass Skull, Diary of the Dead, Rookery Password.
    62.5E to buy, 60E to sell. Not a bad loss, 4% of your cash value as a holding fee.
    Doing the same with rats, 2p to 1p, is a 50% loss. Ouch.


    Oh, I'm aware that rats have poor resale value. It's not about the money; it's about sending a message (the message in this case being "I have an extraordinary quantity of dead rats").

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    Balefire Phoenix
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    3/28/2017
    Speaking of turning back at the Gate, is the text for that option echoed anywhere? (Unless it's considered secret along with the proper endings, of course.)

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    6/14/2016
    bjorntfh wrote:
    Madness!

    To be fair, that was a given with SMEN.

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    6/14/2016
    I would love a PM for whatever the heck is going on here.

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    JimmyTMalice
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    6/22/2016
    Anne Auclair wrote:
    Is there still a nightmare carnival with a wheel that can destroy you?


    There is a Nightmare Carnival, and a wheel. It will not destroy you, just waste an excessive amount of Fate and give you a quality called Scorched by the Sun.

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    7/9/2016
    Alas, I am Scarred and Chained sevenfold, but I have no soul to stain! Is there any hope for recovering it besides paying Fate or hoping for a very specific Bundle of Oddities value?

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    7/9/2016
    JimmyTMalice wrote:
    Alas, I am Scarred and Chained sevenfold, but I have no soul to stain! Is there any hope for recovering it besides paying Fate or hoping for a very specific Bundle of Oddities value?

    No, not really. You'll have to either pay Fate or regain it from a Bundle of Oddities quality of 200. If you aren't willing to hand over the 25 Fate (although I believe the cost increases per use of the option) then your best options are going out to zee to raise the black flag on the Those Engines Don't Sound Healthy opportunity card, opening Surprise Packages and possibly even setting up a trade of packages between you and a player, raising Nobility to get a package from the An Unsigned Letter opportunity card, and speaking a while then asking them to disperse on the One's Public opportunity card. It'll probably take a while to get lucky enough for this to work, so just keep that in mind. Good luck!

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    7/3/2016
    Morucant wrote:
    Sir Joseph Marlen wrote:
    For anyone who's already obtained Saint Cerise's Candle and sacrificed a Classic Short Story, do you know if the action deducts 1 Classic Short Story or does the action take all Classic Short Stories within your inventory?
    edited by Sir Joseph Marlen on 7/3/2016

    Something tells me almost no one knows that.

    Eh, worth a shot.

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    Sir Joseph Marlen
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    6/12/2016
    http://community.failbettergames.com/messages.aspx?TopicID=22415&MessageID=145862#post145862

    There's a thread up for any wishing to be sent chess games to reboost your Watchful! As many have said, listing your name MIGHT be a risk later on, but we haven't seen this yet. So, if you're hurting to grind your Watchful and willing to risk the possibility of someone betraying you later on should the risk arise, then carry on delicious friend.

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    Cimanyd
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    6/11/2016
    Nigel Overstreet wrote:
    Folks looking for chess partners might find this to be agood place to start: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic148-find-friends-for-sparring-dinners-chess--theft.aspx?Page=49


    That looks more like it's for normal people, who want friends, a few second chances here and there for actual use as second chances, trading menace reduction, etc.

    I was thinking of making a thread in the Mandrake specifically for trading large amounts of second chance actions for gaining stats back, to help those of us with blackened minds. Any reason not to?

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    JimmyTMalice
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    3/29/2017
    The Lord Breakfast wrote:
    Also, I've reached Seeking 12, so I can do the "Grieve" and "Hate" options in the Seeking Road, but I lack the quirk requirements for both. I'd rather do "Grieve" (Melancholy 12) because it fits my character better and because I'm already at Melancholy 10, but I don't know how I'd go about getting above 10, except for getting there incredibly slowly with the Knave black-bordered card.


    Before you get into huffing Tears of the Bazaar, note that the choice of Grieve or Hate at this point doesn't actually affect the story at all. You can go for the much easier quirk requirement of Hate (piracy at zee will get you up to 7 Heartless in no time) and change to Grieve at several points later without losing any Grieve-related content. In fact, you can change your question several times, including at the Avid Horizon.

    All that selecting a question does is give you access to Weeping Isle once you get Mr Eaten's Calling Card.

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    1/5/2017
    Lou Grace wrote:
    dov wrote:
    I haven't reached that point myself, but was told that when later you get the option to change, there's no quirk requirement involved.

    Also, if you haven't played yet the Day 9 Mr Sacks card, the SMEN option there will not only give you a free SMEN point (and some Nightmares), but will also set your "A Question" quality to the same result as "Grieve", thus freeing you from chasing quirks for now just to pick A Question.


    Wow, I had debated strongly whether or not to choose the SMEN option on that card, and though I had doubts about it I went for it in the end. I'm so happy to hear this now. I was even considering [spoiler] buying the fate-locked daughter story despite having no interest in it just to raise melancholy to 12. [/spoiler] Thank you, dov!


    Buying the Daughter story may be a good idea anyway if you don't have an Overgoat, Ubergoat, Noman, seven Fluke Cores or a Classic Short Story to chuck down the well. The Daughter in the Shadows is probably the easiest option there, if you're willing to drop the Fate on her.
    edited by JimmyTMalice on 1/5/2017

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    1/10/2017
    Ben wrote:
    No matter how many times I look at preperations, I seem to keep failing the attempt...

    is there maybe a better ordered list?


    Here's a full list compiled by spacemarine9 of the things you mustn't take (and some further optional things if you're pursuing Salt).

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    6/11/2016
    the number needed is the verse number of an appropriate passage in the book of Matthew
    which verse I will leave unspecified
    edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 6/11/2016
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    8/6/2016
    Does following the final preparations storylet consume your candles?

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    8/12/2016
    I just took mine off and nothing happened.

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    8/16/2016
    suinicide wrote:
    I did it. Suinicide has all seven candles. Now there's only one last thing to do.

    Patiently wait until February so I can get that tattoo.
    edited by suinicide on 8/10/2016


    Sadly it seems obscurity seems to prevent you from replacing what you sacrifice in the nadir. (Expected) But unexpectedly, this includes the SMEN equivalents, I am unable to get torment, and am likely locked out of the tattoo. So I'll be heading north in a few weeks instead, I hope someone else can fulfill my plan in my place.

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    8/27/2016
    You keep your soul. Not even the cats want it.

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    9/15/2016
    you have to choose shortly before you go north, but for now you can delay.

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    9/14/2016
    24 and 27, they each go up to their number times 3. (Or what number they would have)
    edited by suinicide on 9/14/2016

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    9/5/2016
    Oh Miriam, Miriam, I am so sorry, but I must, I must, I must, I must, I must....

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    6/9/2016
    With my SMEN at 1 I don't seem to have any Seeking options at my lodgings, do I need to get it higher before they appear?

    I should definitely stop taking boatman trips as a result of these cards but the writing...

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    3/26/2017
    Where did you find that account?

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    6/15/2016
    Here's the hard hitting question. What level of Seeking do you think the Northbound Parliamentarian has?
    edited by UltimusLight on 6/15/2016

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    7/13/2017
    ... Bah.

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    5/9/2019
    Finally finished Seeking after about a two years.

    I can finally min-max acquiring Notability, now...

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    6/11/2016
    Arensen wrote:
    A long while ago, I made an alt specifically for the purposes of Seeking, only to discover the story had since been frozen. Now it's back, and I can finally use Eliza's account for the intended purpose. The only problem being... I have absolutely no clue how to progress. She's drawn the ACE OF HUNGERS the first time, and is now at SMEN 2. I SUSPECT that I should probably start with Blacken your Mind Like Paper, but am not sure what the fastest way for a non-POSI account to grind Mourning Candles is. Could anyone advise?

    So, Blacken your Mind is a BAD idea (trust me, I know from experience), as it damages watchful you need to progress through the content. Mourning candles can be gained through the affair of the box, and you continue the seeking story via 'the Seeking Road' at your lodgings. I personally recommend using the appalling secrets route of seeking; it's the cheapest overall (I was able to get to seeking 12 so far with it, and I'm poised for more one I get my watchful up).

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    11/3/2016
    Hobnail wrote:
    At SMEN 49, is Knave of Regrets the only card that will increase it? Knight of Feasts does not.


    After FINALLY drawing the bloody card I can confirm that choosing "No Restitution" on Knave of Regrets will increase SMEN up to 47

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    8/18/2018
    She is a part of Mrs. Clathermont who could not love the bazaar, and so was removed/forgotten.

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    7/25/2016
    I spent most of last week grinding notability up to 12. Today I misclicked on a UP card and lost that final point.
    On the bright side, at least I'm finally able to get my own calling card.
    also could someone PM me how many proscribed materials I need?
    edited by suinicide on 7/26/2016

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    7/8/2016
    If you want to wait a while, you can be the first to see whats up with the tattoo.

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    1/5/2017
    There's a bunch of seekers in the fallen london irc, if you want to chat. (We also have an ending document)
    edited by suinicide on 1/5/2017

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    3/24/2017
    UP increases with time the healer. Go eat something!
    edited by suinicide on 3/24/2017

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    2/3/2017
    Don't do it! Drowning your secrets and UP are the better alternatives. Trading a starveling cat can help you raise UP when you need it. For drowning your secrets, try to find a way to find cryptic clues.

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    11/22/2017
    You need it to ask "who is salt?"

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    8/11/2016
    Keep going, 22 doesn't lock you out of anything.

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    8/10/2016
    The Master wrote:
    suinicide wrote:
    I did it. Suinicide has all seven candles. Now there's only one last thing to do.

    Patiently wait until February so I can get that tattoo.
    edited by suinicide on 8/10/2016


    You will probably burn but I guess that's kinda what you want to happen.


    I'm going to be disappointed if it doesn't at least set all my menaces to 12.

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    8/11/2016
    If his name is written, I will burn. But will an agent of the bazaar write it?

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    8/2/2016
    They seem to have just changed winking isle a bit. The lighthouse no longer locks with obscurity, and the options for the well are in the opposite order.

    Edit: apparently everything's in the reverse order. Not just winking isle.
    edited by suinicide on 8/2/2016

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    8/3/2016
    The devs words are "will render your account permanently unplayable". And everyone who has seen it seems to agree. Maybe it just permasets your actions and cards to zero, but you can still look around, but not interact, with london. Pretty sure no ones gonna say.

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    9/20/2016
    Reshemin wrote:
    Barselaar wrote:
    I think it's almost, if not completely, identical?

    No, the text is marginally different. Though not an important difference, I'd say.

    More specifically, instead of the page being missing from the "POST-FINAL REVISED EXCEPTIONAL EDITION", it's a page from the "FINAL REVISED EDITION"

    Other than that, the biggest difference is this line is missing on fortunate: "DO NOT TOUCH. DO NOT LOOK. RUN AWAY. You touch. You look. You haven't run away."

    This seems to have some lore implication, but what it is is beyond me, unless this is it- which i doubt.

    Clearly, there's two books, not one. Clearly, they are not the same book. Perhaps one would have him betray you and lead you to a false-passage, but the calling card would be there regardless, and one would have him actually let you see it, but the page was still torn out.

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    9/29/2016
    th8827 wrote:
    I planned ahead and currently have Notability 12. I just have to get to 35 Seeking in about 2 weeks, or grind MW to counter TtH. I am close enough that I can probably get it in a few days, if my luck is not abysmally bad.

    What is a good Seeker-friendly profession that I can take, after that?

    I also used the short story to get the 3rd candle, saving my goat for stats.

    The last material candle, as far as i can tell, is the notability one. If there's any fate professions that give extra actions, that'd be best. If that's not the case, then it's ultimately unlikely to matter, unless you want to help out other seekers with calling cards, in which case anything that gives lots of secrets or incubatula.

    Also, a random tip for anyone who's using a seeking alt with dangerous below 100: the fighting rings for making your name dangerous cost an entry fee which is returned echo-wise on success, along with a pittance in glim, but they give a +20-+30 bonus for your dangerous per fight. This is far more overpowered for stat growth than anything else.

    This is mitigated by the fact that they're capped at 60 (meat, 100 rostygold -> 2 tales of terror, +20 cp on success, same on failure but without the tales of terror), 70 (roses, 5 tales -> 1 prespytrate passpharse, +25 cp on success), and 80 (paint, 3 prespytrate passpharse -> 3 extrodinary implications, +30 cp on success). However, this is gear-modified. with a rattus fabber, you have a much easier ticket to 85, 95, and 105, or at least a nifty little boost. 5 stars grinding method!
    edited by Grenem on 9/29/2016

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    7/5/2016
    FreedomGeek wrote:
    I ... don't think I'll seek the name. The curiosity burns but I don't think I'm willing to pay the price. I haven't, for instance, died down here so I could, in theory, return the the surface.

    No, I think I'll watch from the sidelines and let you fellow seek the name. At least for now. Maybe one day I'll create an alt just to seek the name or something.
    edited by FreedomGeek on 7/5/2016

    I decline to seek the name. What i desire is [the word of banishment], and to help other seekers. As the former is a thing only availible to seekers, i must seek to activate it, and never set foot in the same place again.
    edited by Grenem on 7/5/2016

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    6/20/2016
    Arensen wrote:
    th8827 wrote:
    No. I wish that I could afford a goat.

    I plan on throwing down a Classic Short Story. I'm very close to getting my 4th Trade Secret. I'll have it well before I'm ready for that step.

    Well, I finally realised that Arensen (and scarily enough, myself too) is the literal definition of the kind of character who would seek, and although I'm only at SMEN 6, I do have a Classic Short Story which I could dunk in the well when I get that far. What level of SMEN does it need?

    27, with two candles.

    Each candle traditionally provides 1 level SMEN, but as at lv.29 you can unlock the winking isle- which is when seeking starts looking really really absurdly expensive otherwise- you should gather the candles you have access to (Arthur, Beau, Cerise) prior to that point.

    As at lv.28 you have a relatively cheap option to level up seeking- 87.5 echoes in incubatula- you probably should, for optimal usage, gather candles at lv. 25- arthur for 26, beau for 27, cerise for 28, incubatula for 29.

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    6/20/2016
    LawrenceKeyworth wrote:
    What are thoughts on grieving vs hating? I'm just about to make the choice and I'm wondering what theories are out there about content paths here?

    Well, either way you're going to need to have one to get to the isle- meaning it is outright locked until you have one. So that, and the fact that it's easier now, means the majority will likely choose to hate. Greiving might be easier, harder, or neither in the long run, but it's known that you'll need one to make the climb feasible past a certain point.

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    6/23/2016
    Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:
    MrBurnside wrote:
    Ian Hart wrote:
    Anything that would actually ease my way in Seeking would be a delight. Does the calling card actually give you an advantage though, other than not having to buy it yourself?
    From what I've read upthread, it can be used at level 21 to skip about 7 levels of grinding, including the need for candles.
    Not sure I understand this correctly: if you get the Calling Card at SMEN 21, you don't need to get the candles? Or not all of them? I thought getting all the candles was absolutely mandatory...

    It lets you delay getting the candles and/or get them early.

    Normally, without a helpful calling card, the optimal route is to get arthur's at 25- despite how it's unlocked at 21- destin's at 26- despite how it's unlocked at 24- and cerise's at 27, if you aren't using marsh mired and dealing with absurd waits. Getting the candles used to be the cheapest option, but once you can access winking isle, 1 level SMEN is 1 level SMEN- you aren't missing out on anything anymore by getting the levels either earlier or later. [Prior to that point, the costs increase in a fashion you could construe as exponential, and each level is more expensive than the last.]
    edited by Grenem on 6/23/2016

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    6/9/2016
    malthaussen wrote:
    @Harlocke: you can experience the lore by following all the various Mr Eaten threads, now and in the past. So far as actively Seeking, it is very much like being a little bit pregnant. It is not the sort of thing you can experience without serious consequences, and quitting midway through is said to be the worst of all possible worlds.

    -- Mal

    There is a madness in me that yearns to seek just long enough to destroy my lodgings, so i can get rid of the useless ones. There are optimization instincts in me that are near as mad as seeking.

    This is undoubtedly a terrible idea that is not worth it, but... the temptation persists. Waiting for evidence that there'll be a way to opt back in in time, that it's not a one-shot or never storyline, but instead a one-shot, with extra reqs to go back again, and losing all progress at the time.

    (Also, unless seeking added a source for them, how would you get 7 fluke cores?)

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    6/13/2016
    It's far from over. I just read the logs, and they have barely scratched the surface of that wretched place.

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    8/16/2016
    Cthonius wrote:
    Of note for people talking of switching out of Torment, iirc doesn't changing the destiny take away the candle? Perhaps that was just old Seeking that I read about.

    That aside I'm torn. I want to Seek, have to Seek and see it all. But I'm fond of my account. It's just 8 months old, I've gotten a highest tier profession and a 4 card dwelling, my first destiny, and all manner of thing. There's a few stories undone still (being Governor, finishing the Affair of the Box, and the Hearts Desire stuff post Old Downey) but I've enough where with acquisition of a Starveling Cat I could feasibly begin Seeking. But even though it would still be a long while till I end it, I don't know if it's worth doing that or waiting the who knows how long till the Ambitions are done. I'd start a new account after either way. That then brings the idea of using an alt for Seeking...which would be tedious hopping between accounts and decidedly not fun. Any thoughts, comments?



    I went the alt route, and I've been enjoying it. My main had just "maxed out" (got an ubergoat, and done with all content) so I primarily play the alt, and only use my main when new content (mostly holidays and exceptional stories these days) comes out. It's rather smart to start your alt early if you're going to use one, so it can take advantage of the weekly marsh mired seeking gain. I'm up to 13 Seeking so far, after about 3 months of play.

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    6/13/2016
    The Master wrote:
    Don't want to be a party breaker but rats are accepted automaticly, they are placed in the inventory of a person you sent it to instantly when you send the rats.


    I'm uncertain as to whether I should be relieved or not. Though I do recall other players claiming to have gifts of rats still unaccepted.

    Perhaps it was just an oversight .

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    6/27/2016
    NiteBrite wrote:
    If anyone is willing to fight me in plant tournaments do let me know.


    My plant is exceptionally good at losing so you are more than welcome to challenge mine.

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    6/27/2017
    Ok, so... uhhhhhh...

    What exactly does seeking the eater DO to a char? You don't need to spoil it, but is teh account unplayable? Does that mean I need some secondary accounts to persue it while the main account lives in the lap of luxuary?

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    2/24/2017
    Teaspoon wrote:
    It'll take ages n' ages.

    Someone was working on it, I think.

    it's only 42 draws of a certain card in the nadir, though. I mean, that's not trivial, or exactly quick, but someone could have done it already if they started at seeking's debut

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