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If you build up enough trust, you can ask him everything.
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genesis
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Curiously, the options the first time you drink with him are duds. The two drinking storylets are different if you look carefully.
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ochrasy
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suinicide wrote:
If you build up enough trust, you can ask him everything.
thanks! that's a relief.
genesis wrote:
Curiously, the options the first time you drink with him are duds. The two drinking storylets are different if you look carefully.
well, that's interesting. my guess would be someone tickered with the options and forgot to change them it the first storylet.
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Professor Strix
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Just remember that building his trust enough to learn everything means siding with him and taking the most expensive options in all interactions with him. I was hesitant in two instances and couldn't read the last option (about the bomb) when drinking with him.
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ochrasy
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Professor Strix wrote:
Just remember that building his trust enough to learn everything means siding with him and taking the most expensive options in all interactions with him. I was hesitant in two instances and couldn't read the last option (about the bomb) when drinking with him.
well, tbh, I do want to bomb the Embassy. sounds fun!
but I have already realised he's a very expensive fellow
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Mordaine Barimen
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Did anyone else have trouble echoing the text when leaving the Brass Embassy after scouting it out? ("That's Everything!") I keep getting the dying star error message when attempting to record to my journal.
I do hope it's not a return of the same issue as so hampered recording the Seven-Day Reign.
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suinicide
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I Did, but that was the only place thankfully.
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Optimatum
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Yeah, some issue with that one result it seems.
Harlocke wrote:
If there's a not too spoiler heavy way to do it, can anyone explain how the whole "embassy in repair" thing works? Can you still get lodgings at the embassy if you blow it up? No other devil related opportunities get closed off either? And is it worth getting quarters at the embassy before playing the story, for additional options or lore?
Embassy in Repair is a temporary quality; the story explains how to remove it. I haven't seen anything related to having the lodgings.
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Mordaine Barimen
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Thank you both.
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ochrasy
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well, I have to say one thing I didn't like:
[spoiler]An Account of the Souls Aboard Hell's Triremes[/spoiler]
is a quality and not an item. unless it will be used again (it has a number following it), I hope it gets changed to an item soon.
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genesis
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5/27/2016
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I've now finished. Liked it a lot. I didn't *love* it. But I liked it a lot.
To be honest, I don't really understand the critique that many players raised... The outcome they seem to have wanted was available. It was available under what to me seems like the most obvious option. That they looked for it under a different option.. well it's not really a *weakness* or *flaw* of the story design however frustrating the outcome may have been, in my opinion.
I also disagree that the story was standalone and didn't contribute to lore. With the exception of Flint, ES generally do not contribute to lore in flashy and obvious ways. But they do contribute in small tantalising ways and this story was no exception. We learned:
[spoiler]
1. that devils can change their faces, 2. that the Foreign Office has *some* leverage over the Brass Embassy, 3. more insight into the afterlife in the Neath (the permanently dead huddling on some shore), 4. that (contrary to things we learned in Discernment) some devils can be very callous about souls (this is not new as we have seen this during Christmas but it's interesting to have it re-confirmed after Discernment). I almost wonder whether part of the reason for the Season of Revolutions was over the attitude to/treatment of souls. Somehow I dount the aristocracy of Brimstone Convention tosses souls into fireplaces)
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The mechanics weren't the most innovative but not every story has to have complicated mechanics. It certainly wasn't linear as some people suggested - the five different outcomes clearly play off various combinations of early choices. Plus the Hell/Docks card mechanics are new and interesting.
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Mordaine Barimen
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5/27/2016
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I haven't drawn the faction card for the denouement, but the bomb just went off, so I'm practically finished with the tale.
I enjoyed the story. I especially enjoyed the lack of a Flash lay. In fact, there seemed a small nod to not having one in the hover text descriptor of the Case for the keys. thank you, FBG for this.
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Mr. Secrets
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So in the end I chose to let the bomb go off and I'm rather surprised to have taken a Magnanimous Drop. I guess it makes sense since there were casualties but I chose to help the guy get revenge on the Devils. I could have stopped the plot easily, but I chose to help the guy out instead of reporting him to authority. I don't know, it seems weird. Like maybe another quirk change but not a Mag drop, since no matter which way you look at it you are helping someone.
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Mr Sables
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Professor Strix wrote:
Just remember that building his trust enough to learn everything means siding with him and taking the most expensive options in all interactions with him. I was hesitant in two instances and couldn't read the last option (about the bomb) when drinking with him.
Seriously?!
So, is that why - having gained his trust - I was locked into the ending, unable to tell the devil's? I'm guessing this author hasn't heard of 'betrayal' or 'double-agent', then, which would have made more sense than the devils totally ignoring what I told them in the start . . . and - that being the case - I'd expect bigger ramifications for having betrayed the guy. Plus, I think locking out parts of the story to only people who gain enough trust (without warning about the ending options and being locked out of a key one they would come to expect, due to an early choice) is just awful when people have paid for the story itself.
I'm going to have to start remembering the authors' names and only buying those I generally like.
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M. Cinder
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Kylestien wrote:
I know who supplied the device in question by the way if anyone is curious.
[spoiler]Take three guesses. Go on. Guess. [/spoiler]
edited by Kylestien on 5/26/2016
Silas the Showman?
Though in all seriousness, it doesn't take a genius to guess.
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Passionario
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5/27/2016
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Villain arrested, explosion prevented, anarchy quelled, order upheld.
All is well and all is well and all the manner of things are well.
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Shadowcthuhlu
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M. Cinder wrote:
Kylestien wrote:
I know who supplied the device in question by the way if anyone is curious.
[spoiler]Take three guesses. Go on. Guess. [/spoiler]
edited by Kylestien on 5/26/2016
Silas the Showman?
Though in all seriousness, it doesn't take a genius to guess.
I had a stupidly complicated motive planned out for it actually being Hell before I looked it up on Kylestien's journal.
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Mordaine Barimen
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5/27/2016
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Robin Mask wrote:
So, is that why - having gained his trust - I was locked into the ending, unable to tell the devil's? I'm guessing this author hasn't heard of 'betrayal' or 'double-agent', then, which would have made more sense than the devils totally ignoring what I told them in the start . . . and - that being the case - I'd expect bigger ramifications for having betrayed the guy.
I ratted him out at every opportunity while still picking the options labeled as generating more trust from him as I went. At the end, I was allowed to hand him over to the devils with one minute to spare on the timer. Sorry that you didn't get the ending that you'd hoped for.
I'm going to have to start remembering the authors' names and only buying those I generally like.
Well, my topic "Fallen London Stories & the Responsible Miscreants" might prove helpful for you; it lists the Exceptional Stories (and Sunless Sea Islands) and their authors.
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Mr Sables
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Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I ratted him out at every opportunity while still picking the options labeled as generating more trust from him as I went. At the end, I was allowed to hand him over to the devils with one minute to spare on the timer. Sorry that you didn't get the ending that you'd hoped for.
I'm going to have to start remembering the authors' names and only buying those I generally like.
Well, my topic "Fallen London Stories & the Responsible Miscreants" might prove helpful for you; it lists the Exceptional Stories (and Sunless Sea Islands) and their authors.
Thanks, I've bookmarked that thread right now 
Haha, ironically, this author wrote another story I disliked . . . in the other, I maintain a choice should have been made to tip the guy off (instead of just reconciling them or letting him die, making a complex case of abandonment a childish black-and-white mentality). I think I'll avoid him 100% in future, wherever possible. I do hope for more from Emily and Richard, though, and I'm so sad Alexis has gone :'(
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Sir Joseph Marlen
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Robin Mask wrote:
Mordaine Barimen wrote:
I ratted him out at every opportunity while still picking the options labeled as generating more trust from him as I went. At the end, I was allowed to hand him over to the devils with one minute to spare on the timer. Sorry that you didn't get the ending that you'd hoped for.
I'm going to have to start remembering the authors' names and only buying those I generally like.
Well, my topic "Fallen London Stories & the Responsible Miscreants" might prove helpful for you; it lists the Exceptional Stories (and Sunless Sea Islands) and their authors.
Thanks, I've bookmarked that thread right now
Haha, ironically, this author wrote another story I disliked . . . in the other, I maintain a choice should have been made to tip the guy off (instead of just reconciling them or letting him die, making a complex case of abandonment a childish black-and-white mentality). I think I'll avoid him 100% in future, wherever possible. I do hope for more from Emily and Richard, though, and I'm so sad Alexis has gone :'(
edited by RobinMask on 5/27/2016
Wait, how is it that you both did the exact same things and yet you got two different endings? Or did I just misunderstand something?
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