As promised last week, we're in the process of converting Connected: Rubbery Men to the Favours and Renown system. Some branches may be temporarily locked or slightly peculiar in operation while we're doing this; please bear with us in the mean time. I'll post again once it's done.

This includes three new items for characters with Renown: Rubbery Men at high enough levels. All being well, we expect to introduce something similar for other kinds of Renown, to provide additional recognition for those who develop an especially high degree of fame or notoriety. We're also going to release a new heist today; it will require criminal Favours and will allow you to investigate a mysterious and exceedingly wealthy individual, recently arrived in Fallen London.

I'll second Grenem's point, sort of, rather -- as an active player I greatly appreciate having cards I don't want to play in my deck. I'd never get any storylets or RP done if I couldn't discard things.

James StAnthony wrote:

Hi guys,
A few people in the thread have been asking about the next faction to be converted to the Favours and Renown system - I'm happy to announce that the Urchins are next on the cards!

Sorry for double posting, but... How is this coming along?

Does anyone have Renown 50? What's the description for it?

So...How exactly do you gain favors from the Rubbery now? My usual methods (Conflict cards) seem to only give monetary rewards.

Curious Foreigner wrote:

It needs 40 renown and 7 favours.

Let’s say one starts at Renown 5 thanks to the Carnival and starts using the Pulsating Amber. This will take 21 Favors to get to level 8, another 42 to get to level 15 and 238 (34*7) to get to level 40 and 7 more to get this mysterious item.
Now, how hard can it be to get 308 Favors?
As a personal curiosity: how much did it took the people that started with 40+ Renown to get the Connection level before the update?
Cheers!

dov wrote:

This might be tough to grind quickly. I don't think there's any efficient way to grind Urchins. Fun with the Fisher Kings gives just +3 CP. Is there any other storylet based way to raise the Connection?

The most effective way is via conflict cards, but:

• 1) This is up to the RNG
• 2) With the recent changes, conflict cards are less useful for raising connections. e.g. the Docks/Urchins cards can't give connections anymore - it can only be used to destroy connections/favours. The Widow/Urchins and Hell/Urchins cards are still an option, though.

Yeah, that's why I'm debating whether it's worth trying . . .

I'm at 35-ish, so there's an insanely low chance I'll get anywhere near enough to make 50 renown.

Anyway, the wiki says you can get a card in Veilgarden for a better percentage of CP, but you need to have no connected pets . . . I'm not sure how to get rid of my connected pet to try it, but I suspect it'll involve waiting for the RNG to give me the pet card and then ditching them via that (or so I hope).

I think he just means the posts describing changelogs. I've only seen one changelog ever, when I had just started playing ages ago.

Alright so what's the best methods for grinding Urchins?
edited by Optimatum on 5/7/2016

Thanks for the earlier replies about the urchins

I'm wondering - on that note - does anyone estimate what level of connection we'll need for the remaining conversions? Example, I imagine Society and Bohemians will require much high connections to get 50 renown, due to being so easy to grind, but then what about say the Masters or Somerset/Bethnic? I'm just curious as to what levels I should be grinding towards for those that remain :-S

• When I had no Favours to begin with, I saw no message regarding Favours: Rubbery Men.
• When I already had 2 Favours, the message was "Favours: Rubbery Men remains unchanged, at 2"

Grenem wrote:

Andropov wrote:

I was am Amberine before the changeover. Now, I am Renown 32 and God knows how much grinding to get to 50, if it's even possible.

This does not please me.

Reaching an amberine isn't actually that far. it's only level 150, or 6300 cp. That sounds like a lot, and it kind of is, but at 15 cp an action- using conflict cards being the default assumption- it's only 420 actions. (though amberine continues from there, i'm assuming you weren't ludicrously high). renown 40 is the actual highest relevant teir, and you're not so far from that- at 21 cp per batch of 7 favors, you'll only need 14 batches to hit 40. while it'll take a lot to get to 50, it won't take that much to get to 40.

It still feels somewhat unfair to reach the max connected level in terms of its respective title, only to find that it accounted only a fraction of your renown level after the transition. Couple this with how opportunity cards are not a reliable action and that raising renown post implementation is such a tedious affair, It is quite natural to be a bit frustrated.

Hey folks!

I missed the last couple of change overs as I've been away a lot. Looks like I've got some reading up to do! Anyway, I know there aren't any fixed numbers or anything, but does anybody know roughly how much connected I might need in order to get 50 renown? I already have a pretty high Urchins connection (278 and counting so I'd hate to miss out on this one, especially as I'm an extraordinary mind - judging by our rubbery friends, I'd be locked out of nabbing the top-tier after the switch.

Hi guys,


A few people in the thread have been asking about the next faction to be converted to the Favours and Renown system - I'm happy to announce that the Urchins are next on the cards!

I suggest using the connection items to convert your favours into renown.

I share your pain. My Connected: Church is 1616, and I am not looking forward to the conversion that will lop it down to a mere 50.