Flyte wrote:

As promised last week, we're in the process of converting Connected: Rubbery Men to the Favours and Renown system. Some branches may be temporarily locked or slightly peculiar in operation while we're doing this; please bear with us in the mean time. I'll post again once it's done.

This includes three new items for characters with Renown: Rubbery Men at high enough levels. All being well, we expect to introduce something similar for other kinds of Renown, to provide additional recognition for those who develop an especially high degree of fame or notoriety. We're also going to release a new heist today; it will require criminal Favours and will allow you to investigate a mysterious and exceedingly wealthy individual, recently arrived in Fallen London.

Very excited for the new content, especially a heist that introduces a new story and character

Little disappointed it requires criminal favours, though, as those guys always earn me a turncoat (which is a pain to reduce) . . . so it feels like I'll be getting automatically penalised by trying the new heist, but - eh - I guess that's all a part of the game. The actual use for renown - including items - is a fantastic idea, though, and one I can't wait to see in practise

Things are happening, because my Rubbery/Revolutionary conflict card just disappeared. (I don't think that I discarded it)

The Master wrote:

You don't have to get to 5 favours, as I know the only way to obtain turncoat because of criminal favours is the conflict card and the card where you spend your favours for items(and only sometimes here).

It's been a long while, but I know there was a reason why I stopped collecting them . . .

I can't remember if it's because the conflict card is non-discardable, forcing you to get turncoat or decimate your constable (?) connection, but I feel that may be it . . . once you have a favour, there's not much you can do to get rid of them, except for spending them, so - if you're right that spending them also gets a turncoat - you end up with a non-discardable card in your deck and no way to use the favours you've gained. So if the heist requires getting favours, it means I'm automatically going to get a turncoat . . . at least, that's the way it seems, so I gladly admit I may be misunderstanding or misremembering things. I've not used the criminal favours at all since I got several turncoats and worked out why, via the forum.

Jeremy Saklad wrote:

You can convert your Favours into Renown at the same level you get the card, which is worth going out of your way for anyway. You can also just take the Revolutionaries hit necessary to eliminate Turncoat, or just leave the card in your deck until you use them anyway

You could also just maintain the “A Guardian of the Realm” quality for “A Power in Waiting,” which will eliminate the Turncoat gain. If you aren’t actively pursuing Boxfuls of Intrigue to get Correspondence Plaques, that is probably best.Keep in mind that ALL conflict cards will be like that eventually.

True, but the 'revolutionary' connection is a pain for my character to get . . .


I already am 'A Guardian of the Realm', so that won't make a difference to me.

If I'm honest, I don't see a point to the turncoat outside of that specific carousel, and if all conflict cards become like that -? I'm going to be peeved, especially because it makes the game so black-and-white instead of shades of grey, where you could build relationships with multiple factions . . . that's just my opinion, though, and clearly others disagree. *heaves sigh*. Well, nothing stays the same, I suppose.

We removed Turncoat from the Criminals conflict card several weeks ago – we agree it made that branch too punishing.