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Catherine Raymond
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4/13/2016
My vial of Cantigaster Venom is Precious; it's what I got the first time I (accidentally) sold my soul, I believe.

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Catherine Raymond
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4/13/2016
suinicide wrote:
One thing I can't help but point out is that the diamond ring isn't ranked "precious", as it obviously should be.
My precious....


Actually, Gollum's "Precious" was a plain gold band, with Elvish script upon it. :-)

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Catherine Raymond
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4/14/2016
an_ocelot wrote:
Cider doesn't have a label yet, before you ask (but a bunch of stuff doesn't, so maybe it's coming).

"Precious":

* Mountain-sherd
*A Sealed Copy of the Crimson Book
* Judgements' Egg
* Vial of Cantigaster Venom
edited by an_ocelot on 4/13/2016

Wow, you have a Mountain-sherd! Is it on your profile? I'd love to look at it.

Sorry for repeating your note about the Cantigaster Venom; I should have read back through the thread before posting.

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suinicide
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4/14/2016
Can someone check element of dawn? It looks like its basically guaranteed a "precious", with the other two getting that rank.

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fallingkitten
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4/14/2016
suinicide wrote:
Can someone check element of dawn? It looks like its basically guaranteed a "precious", with the other two getting that rank.


Element of Dawn is rare.

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Gilphon
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4/14/2016
My Element of Dawn is just Rare.

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suinicide
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4/14/2016
Wonder why that one's different. Hope it becomes more common, I've wanted one for a long time.

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Sara Hysaro
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4/14/2016
Yeah, I'm guessing most of the seemingly out of place labels are simply an indicator that we'll be seeing a new way of getting them in the near-ish future.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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4/14/2016
Catherine Raymond wrote:
Wow, you have a Mountain-sherd! Is it on your profile? I'd love to look at it.
It's up; the image is just a diamond, and the text is, "[Precious] This was struck from the side of the Mountain-of-Light, who is the god called Stone. It is holy: treat it accordingly."


Looking at my personal notes, I appear to have got one from a Charitably Mysterious Bundle and the other from Flint, Part I.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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4/14/2016
Also I am suppressing the urge to make a list of things that _don't_ have labels yet, on the ground that FGB ought to have automated tools to tell them that and therefore it would be a waste of time, but my completist self is _itching_ with the desire to.

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Optimatum
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4/14/2016
Now what I want to know is the rarity of a Ratty Reliquary. Anyone here lucky enough to grab one?

(On a slightly unrelated note, I find it interesting that Judgement's Eggs and Vital Intelligence were available through the the charity bundle but not the Christmas bundle.)

Sara Hysaro wrote:
I'm also wondering when Rumourmaster became Rumourmonger, though that's not terribly relevant.

Mid-December at latest, as a comment on its wiki page attests.

Gilphon wrote:
It does, however, make sense to me that Impossible Theorem and Master's Blood are marked as more common than the other Tier 8 items- the others are card-based and in direct competition with each other. Also, the disparity you're observing isn't as significant when you account for value- is an Impossible Theorem really that much harder to get than 625 Unearthy Fossils would be?

Aside from selling the Cave of the Nadir location, Master's Blood is card-based as well, even if said cards can be forced. But I'd say it's definitely rarer than Coveted considering that, if converting Airag into Tears, you pay an additional 625 echoes in lost Airag value on top of the 7 Notability and value of the Tears. Similarly, the Impossible Theorem costs almost twice its monetary value in Searing Enigmas, even ignoring the 100 echo and Searing Enigma fine on failure.

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4/14/2016
The Ratty Reliquary is rare.

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Sara Hysaro
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4/14/2016
Optimatum wrote:


Sara Hysaro wrote:
I'm also wondering when Rumourmaster became Rumourmonger, though that's not terribly relevant.

Mid-December at latest, as a comment on its wiki page attests.



Huh, that's farther back than I had anticipated! I clearly do not pay enough attention to my inventory.

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Harlocke
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4/14/2016
One additional label I'd like to see is "Limited", indicating that something is only available a limited number of times or can even only be obtained once. This would be irrespective of value or usefulness. Early on I spent 2/3 case notes writing a story, because I assumed that case notes were a commonplace item, not a rare thing you can only obtain three of ever. Some of us are collectors and don't want to sell off special items like that.

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MrBurnside
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4/14/2016
Fragment of the Tragedy Procedures is also Precious.

And missing from the wiki. Was it taken off? I thought I'd looked it up there before.
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dov
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4/14/2016
Harlocke wrote:
One additional label I'd like to see is "Limited", indicating that something is only available a limited number of times or can even only be obtained once.
Makes sense. Or "Irreplaceable".

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colinsapherson
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4/14/2016
I can confirm that the Rumourmonger/master change happened on 18th September 2015, after I emailed support@failbettergames.com about it.

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Evariste S. Crumbledon
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4/14/2016
How does one get an 'Element of Dawn' ?

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Sara Hysaro
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4/14/2016
I got mine from Flint. I think one of the item randomizers from a while back could also give you one if you got the necessary value, but obviously that was pretty random and is no longer available.

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Kade Carrion (an_ocelot)
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4/14/2016
Yeah, I got my Element of Dawn from a Charitably Mysterious Bundle.

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