Parelle
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3/24/2016
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As with our previous changeovers, the Tomb Colonists are under going an update to the Favours/Renown system.
As you find them, please list 1) sources of Favours found, 2) uses of Favours, 3) unlocks using Renown, 4) storylets which no longer grant Favours which previously granted Connection.
Most options below are cards; the storylets are listed as - with a [bracketed italicized location] first
Cards which must been drawn in particular locations have their [requirements shown in brackets]
= Favour Sources =
[Mrs. Plenty’s Carnival] - Meet some tomb colonists - 1 Favour, 3 CP Renown, caps at Renown 5
Bandages and Dust: The Tomb Colonies: A night on the Town - 1 Favour
A Bandaged Raven (connected pet): Encourage Her to Befriend Tomb-Colonists - 1 Favour
A drink with the Cheery Man: His contacts with the tomb-colonies - 1 Favour
Coffee with the Last Constable: She's Not Alone' (The Mercies) - 1 Favour (before finishing Family and Law)
The Interpreter of Dreams: Allow Dr Schlomo to publish your dreams: Describe your dreams of dead men - 1 Favour, possible rare success
= Favour Sources relating to A Disgraced Exile in the Tomb Colonies =
[upon reaching Scandal 8+] A maelstrom of scandal! - 1 Favour (automatic upon being sent)
[Tomb colonies] Letter from the Contessa’s Father: As it Should be - 1 Favour, increase scandal
[Tomb colonies] Remnants: Investigate it - 1 Favour, Memory of Distant Shores, increase scandal
=Favour Use=
Bandages and Dust: The Tomb Colonies: Trade for a Collection of Curiosities: Favours 1 - 5 Puzzling Maps, 1 Extraordinary Implication
Bandages and Dust: The Tomb Colonies: Spar with a black ribbon duelist: Favours 1 - 14 change points of dangerous for 1 favour
[Forbidden Quarter] - Call in Favours in the Forbidden Quarter: Favours 1 - 120 Primordial Shriek
A clandestine rendezvous at Watchmaker's Hill: A Bandaged Raven: Favours 1
[The University] A particular practice: Turn the tables: 1 Favour - Bundle of Oddities, decrease Connected Summerset 5cp
= Conversions =
Third City relics to Mysteries of the elder continent : 1 Favour
Mysteries of the elder continent to Presbyterate Passphrases: 1 Favour
Presbyterate Passphrases to Antique mysteries : 1 Favour
No increase seen in rare success payout.
= Connection Conflict Cards =
Going Gentle: Connected: Society 50, Tomb Colonist Favours 5, Can't Discard
- Discretely Inform: 500-1000 Greyfields 1862 (varies by amount of Favours spent), 1 Favour in High Places, 1 Ostentatious Diamond, 1 Morelways 1872, Someone is coming
- Sneak the old man out: lose 500 cp/10 levels(?) Society, gain 2 puzzle damask, 30 cryptic clue, buddle of oddities, Someone is coming
- Break him out: lose 500 cp/10 levels(?) Society, gain 2 puzzle damask, 50 nevercold brass, buddle of oddities, Someone is coming
A Misfortune at the Carnival: Connected: Rubbery Man 30, Tomb Colonist: Favours 5, Can't Discard
- Save the tomb colonist - Lost 10 levels of Rubbery; gained 5 Carnival tickets, 2 Puzzle Damask, and 60 Silk Scrap; increases in Dangerous, daring (Max 5), wounds, Someone is coming.
- Save the rubbery man - (for 7 favors lost) gain of 5 carnival tickets, 1 magnificent diamond, maniac's prayer and bottle of Strangling Willow; 750 deep amber loss; increases in Dangerous, daring (Max 5), wounds, Someone is coming.
=Renown Unlocks=
The Empress’ Court - Music of the Tombs: Renown 4 - Melancholy up to 5, 10 CP of Inspired.
Setting up a Salon: Renown 4
Options on Diary of the Dead
The tomb-colonist's dogs: Hunting to Hounds: A Name Scrawled in Blood 6+ and Renown: 15.
Bandages and Dust: The Tomb Colonies: The unquiet dead: Renown: 10, 1 Bottle of Broken Giant
=Formerly granted Connection; but no Favours=
Majority of cards in the Tomb Colonies; two exceptions noted above
=Further investigation=
Card or storylet with Renown 20 (Storylets requiring Renown 10 & 15 found)
Exact details of the 15+ Renown quirk polisher
Mark of Credit: an unusual home for your mark of credit
Thanks and Credit to Kaigen, The Master, Wiwo, Mathieu Psmith, Maleclypse, Lady Ciel, Cake Ninja, rahv7, Sara Hysaro, Estelle Knoht, th8827, Albert Ross, MrBurnside, James Sinclair, and Vavakx Nonexus for their findings.
edited by Parelle on 4/7/2016
edited by Parelle on 4/7/2016
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Andropov
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5/7/2016
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And people who are not 215 base dangerous are locked out of renown: TC 50 because the highest level requires 49 x 6 = 294 Dangerous, which cannot be done even with a mood without Shattering Force. This sucks.
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PJ
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If you fail the Dangerous challenge when meeting Tomb Colonists at the carnival you get the favor, but not the renown. So the more you can lower your Dangerous the more favors you can get before you're locked out.
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Wiwo
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There's now a new option on the Bandaged Raven Card, "Encourage Her to Befriend Tomb-Colonists", which grants one TC Favour as expected.
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Cake Ninja
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3/24/2016
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Parelle wrote:
Cake Ninja wrote:
Confirming it's 30 Rubbery Connected/5 Tomb Favors for the unlock. Just sided with the rubberies and got no CP gain for the rubberies, but a maniac's prayer and bottle of Strangling Willow. Aside from that, the information upthread still holds.
That's vastly different results from malecylpse though. Do remember the number of Favours you had?
Seven. Here, have a screencap of my results.
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Loulou
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10/19/2016
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So, basically after spending almost two weeks incessantly grinding Prisoner's Honey with the intention to convert it up to Antique Mysteries for a Royal Bethlehem room, I only just found out about favours being required to convert Mysteries of the Elder Continent and Presbyterate Passphrases. Needless to say, I can't tell if I'm more irritated at the necessity of this, or at myself for using the outdated wikidot as my only reference for end-game grinding. I went through this entire thread praying that someone would have discovered some previously hidden miracle method of grinding favours, but I guess not.
I guess it's off to exile for me for now. And I was so proud of myself for never having been through a menace area too.
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Kaigen
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3/24/2016
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If anyone's hanging around the court composing some music, they could check The Music of the Tomb option to see if they changed the connection requirement to a renown/favour requirement.
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Rackenhammer
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3/24/2016
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Being sent to the tomb-colonies from high scandal gives one favor.
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maleclypse
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3/24/2016
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I saved a rubbery man instead of a tomb colonist. 7 favors gone. looks like 30 cp rubbery men only. 5 carnival tickets. 1 magnificent diamond gain. 750 deep amber loss. So 30 cp and 5 echoes for 7 favors. Poor trade.
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lady ciel
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3/24/2016
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Playing the Tomb Colonists side against the Rubbery Men
Lost 10 levels of Rubbery; gained 5 Carnival tickets; 2 Puzzle Damask; 60 Silk Scrap; some someone is coming and got some wounds. If my dangerous wasn't capped it would have increased and it will also take daring to 5.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
3/24/2016
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Ahh! So we've two classes of connection cards involving Favours, right?
Connected 50 (or 30)/Favours 5 unlock
Widow (30)/Docks 5
Society (50)/Tomb 5
Constables (50)/Criminals 5
Rubbery (30)/Tomb 5 - !confirmed below.
Connected 5/Favours 3-4
Urchins/Docks
So which type is the Rubbery Man/Tomb Colonist card?
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Grenem
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5/7/2016
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Andropov wrote:
And people who are not 215 base dangerous are locked out of renown: TC 50 because the highest level requires 49 x 6 = 294 Dangerous, which cannot be done even with a mood without Shattering Force. This sucks.
It'll probably be better when the TC equipments are released- those added a few pointed persuasive amoung the rubberies.
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Tyrone
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6/6/2016
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I find this kind of annoying if I want to convert elder items.
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The Master
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3/24/2016
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Favour use
Bandages and Dust: The Tomb Colonies
Spar with a black ribbon duelist:14 change points of dangerous for 1 favour(same as before but for 1 favour instead)
dissapointed it didn't get the same change as criminals(high amount of favours for alot of change points for one main stat).
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Parelle
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10/19/2016
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I mention a bit about the Tomb Colonies in the first post of this thread, but should you need a return trip, here are hints on how to drive your scandal up.
Http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
Since this is your first visit, you will also want a full tincture of vigor if you've progressed to the 4th Coil in the L of T.
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Parelle
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3/24/2016
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Cake Ninja wrote:
Seven. Here, have a screencap of my results
Yes, thanks! Ah, so in addition, not in place of, right. That's what I get for reading too quickly.
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Cake Ninja
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3/24/2016
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Right, I was noting differences, not the entirety of my results. Sorry if that didn't get across.
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Wiwo
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3/24/2016
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Did the action require Nodules of Deep Amber?
If not, it might be possible to make the action pretty profitable.
With amber it's (12.5-7.5+.1+.5)/5=1.12 EPF (crummy)
Without amber it's (12.5+.1+.5)/5=2.62 EPF (not bad at all).
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Cake Ninja
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3/24/2016
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Didn't require any amber, I don't think. Still hoping it's just someone accidentally placing a minus sign where it doesn't belong, though.
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Parelle
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3/24/2016
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Wiwo wrote:
Possibly, although that would make it veeeeerrry profitable, at (12.5+7.5+.1+.5)/5=4.12 EPF.
Any idea how many CP of wounds it was?
Has got to be less than 3CP right? But that's also for 7 Favours, not 5, so there could be a smaller reward for fewer Favours.
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maleclypse
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3/24/2016
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Definitely appreciate the addition of maniacs prayer and SWA. Mine felt like I lost money lol.
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Kaigen
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3/24/2016
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Ironically, adding the Extraordinary Implication to "Trade your Collection..." actually increases the EPA despite requiring an additional action to get a favour. Unfortunately, it'll be less frequent what with having to draw two cards instead of one for each exchange.
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rahv7
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3/25/2016
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I'm still hoping that a few more sources for gaining favours will turn up, otherwise it might be worth switching the connected pet.
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th8827
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3/25/2016
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Being sent to the Tomb Colonies through the Ballet in Court does not award Favours: Tomb Colonists.
EDIT: I found something in the Tomb Colonies that grants Favours.
A letter from the Comtessa's Father > As It Should Be
This will increase your scandal, but gain you a Favour: Tomb-Colonies.
http://oi68.tinypic.com/2n0verc.jpg
EDIT: I should have taken a screenshot of the result page. I think that it has a Hedonist gain, Auster drop, but I can't remember... Can someone verify?
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MrBurnside
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3/26/2016
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Here's my result for Break Him Out with 7 Favors:
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th8827
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3/26/2016
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*Looks at Break Him Out*
We should test for the Bundle of Oddities max value for that.
James Sinclair wrote:
Does anyone have link(s) to echoes of the result text for the "Attend a clandestine gathering"
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Still working on the other one. The favors are pretty rare.
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Anne Auclair
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3/26/2016
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*sighs* I haven't got the new system internalized yet and I lost all seven of my Tomb Colony favors on a conflict card 
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James Sinclair
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3/27/2016
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It's interesting that most of the ways to gain Favours with the Tomb-Colonists can only be accomplished when you've been exiled to the Tomb-Colonies (automatic favour on exile, A letter from the comte, Remnants, etc.). In London, by comparison, once you're locked out of the free Circus favours you have to rely on the Tomb-Colonists' card (and Bandaged Raven, if you have it). I assume this is intentional, although it will take some getting used to, especially since there are comparatively so many ways to get favours with the Criminals.
I may just have to take a business trip out to the tomb-colonies to pick up some favours. Speaking of the Tomb-Colonies, though, it will be interesting to see if any of the storylets in Venderbight (as part of the Nemesis storyline) provide favours. If anyone is about to travel there, please report back to us.
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Parelle
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3/30/2016
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I don't regret the storyline - it's probably my favorite of the early ones and I didn't even look into the Cheery Man's side deeply. I remember getting the mental image of holding on to a gold fishbowl on a jetty, and holding on to that single goldfish for the longest time as my first pet. But I'd like for her to come back some time!
Well, put it this way - at least it doesn't also give out a Dock's Favour?
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Sara Hysaro
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3/30/2016
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She does have a card! It's just not available after you complete the storyline.
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Estelle Knoht
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3/30/2016
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metasynthie wrote:
It's just too bad that "Family and Law: 4" + "The Cheery Man and the Last Constable: Favouring the Last Constable" doesn't unlock an extra randomly-appearing storylet in Port Carnelian having to do with the Percipient Secretary.
I don't think they are the same person. The Constable really doesn't feel like the type that can say "London's fickle" without raving madly.
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Actually, until the recent Favours/Renown change, it was arguably uneven in the other direction, since siding with the Cheery Man adding a (mostly) useless non-discardable card to your deck. So, (role playing aside) siding with the Last Constable used to be the much better choice.
Not all of the complaints are about financial benefits. It felt uneven because you have all the time in the world to watch senior citizens manhandle the Cheery Man while never getting to interact with the Constable as they breeze though the storyline.
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Danko
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3/31/2016
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
She does have a card! It's just not available after you complete the storyline.
Hey, I totally forgot about it! And it's a super great card! I wish she was able to return to London so we could spend some quality time together... Especially since some of us actually obtained her as a companion during the Feast.
In fact... FB said the two next exceptional stories will also be family themed... The Last Constable comeback exceptional story, anyone? Would be pretty damn cool.
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