Diptych
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3/23/2016
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Here's this week's thread for short questions, hopefully backed with helpful answers! Anything you've been wondering that might not fill out a whole thread in itself, this is the place to ask.
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Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron.
Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
3/27/2016
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roseamanelle wrote:
Hello! My apologies for the interruption. I have two short queries:
1. I've just returned from a long hiatus and discovered that I do not have the quality "A Name Signed with a Flourish". When I first logged in again, I could choose my progress in Making My Name for Dangerous, Shadowy and Watchful but not Persuasive. Long before my hiatus, I made... careful arrangements with both the Barbed Wit and the Acclaimed Beauty and subsequently got exiled to the Tomb Colonies after receiving a Memento of Passion. However, my Memento is now nowhere to be found and both "Seen with a Barbed Wit" and "Seen with an Acclaimed Beauty" are at 6. At the same time, I'm told I'm "not ready to enter the Court" at the Shuttered Palace until I've made a name for myself, although my "Carving out a Reputation at Court" is at 3 (I don't actually remember if I was Banished from the Court previously). Is there any way I can return to where I was without having to play through all the lower-level Persuasive content again? I have many other uses of those actions such as planning Zee-Voyages, stealing things, grinding Echoes...
2. According to the wiki, the third option on "Going Gentle" reduces Connected:Society by 15 CP, but some commenters on that page found that their Connected:Society dropped by 10 levels. Has anyone here faced this problem as well? My Connected:Society is unfortunately rather low and I'd rather not lose 10 levels of it, or give up all my Favours:Tomb Colonies either, but the card is non-discardable.
Thank you for reading this! (I'm new here, so please tell me if there are any posting rules I've accidentally broken.)
1. Sadly not. However, there are some nice persuasive boosts, and you don't actually have to play through that much. worst-case scenario, you should be back within the month.
2. It most likely drops 10 levels, as a price. on the other hand, it likely gives you 25 echoes worth of resources, which may well make up for it. Or it drops all the favors, and afaik, returns 33.5 echoes for them.
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Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Macragg
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3/28/2016
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Hazel wrote:
I have sided with the Secular Missionary and now have no storylets concerning the Cave of the Nadir. Do I need to wait until luck would have it and I acquire an eyeless skull? Will that produce the next step in the story?
When you say you've already sided with the Missionary, have you already gotten the route to the Cave then? If not, then I'm afraid you are likely waiting for one last opportunity card to pop up. If you have, then I believe you should be able to head to the Forgotten Quarter and begin an expedition for the Cave right away, though of course you'll want Archaeologist at 5 and plenty of supplies. You will also need the skull, which will probably be the next big stumbling point, as it can be quite tricky to acquire one.
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The Master
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3/28/2016
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Francis Helit wrote:
I just got to the Empress's Court. However, I don't see it on the map - can I go back if I travel elsewhere? If so, how? Or am I supposed to stay here until I finih everything I want to do? If I left, would I have to go through the Duchess to get here again? I don't want to start on these storylines if they'll reset as soon as I want to go duel some black ribbons or whatever else.
You can enter the court with a single action in the Palace if you ever leave the court.
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A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Francis Helit
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3/28/2016
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The Master wrote:
Francis Helit wrote:
I just got to the Empress's Court. However, I don't see it on the map - can I go back if I travel elsewhere? If so, how? Or am I supposed to stay here until I finih everything I want to do? If I left, would I have to go through the Duchess to get here again? I don't want to start on these storylines if they'll reset as soon as I want to go duel some black ribbons or whatever else.
You can enter the court with a single action in the Palace if you ever leave the court.
Great, thank you! 
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suinicide
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3/28/2016
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They are nice to read, but the only one that has any real rewards is what the thunder says. (But you do get the cards out of your deck eventually)
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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Hazel
Posts: 69
3/28/2016
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Macragg wrote:
Hazel wrote:
I have sided with the Secular Missionary and now have no storylets concerning the Cave of the Nadir. Do I need to wait until luck would have it and I acquire an eyeless skull? Will that produce the next step in the story?
When you say you've already sided with the Missionary, have you already gotten the route to the Cave then? If not, then I'm afraid you are likely waiting for one last opportunity card to pop up. If you have, then I believe you should be able to head to the Forgotten Quarter and begin an expedition for the Cave right away, though of course you'll want Archaeologist at 5 and plenty of supplies. You will also need the skull, which will probably be the next big stumbling point, as it can be quite tricky to acquire one.
I double-checked and apparently I do actually have the route. I will go back to the Forgotten Quarter to make sure that I have the necessary options.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
3/30/2016
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Concerning Criminals, a list of Favour granting cards, mostly granted through companions: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic21906-connected-the-docks-rework-in-progress.aspx?Page=1#post133943
Concerning the Nadir, a very spoiler heavy guide: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic21384-opportunities-in-the-cave-of-the-nadir.aspx
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Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous.
pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
3/27/2016
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roseamanelle wrote:
Grenem wrote:
1. Sadly not. However, there are some nice persuasive boosts, and you don't actually have to play through that much. worst-case scenario, you should be back within the month.
2. It most likely drops 10 levels, as a price. on the other hand, it likely gives you 25 echoes worth of resources, which may well make up for it. Or it drops all the favors, and afaik, returns 33.5 echoes for them.
1. I see. I'll most likely put it off for now and settle my other affairs first, in that case.
2. Will going to Zee or accepting A Polite Invitation remove non-discardable cards?
Thanks for the reply!
Not anymore, no cards are lost to that at this time. If you want high stockpiles of two opposing factions, you need to be willing to sacrifice a card for it. you will remove the card if by any means you drop below connected society 50- i believe that is the right number- or favors 5, though.
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Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Kylestien
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3/28/2016
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So, I recently (as in a minuite ago) obtained an Eyless Skull, and am wondering what to do with it since I can already enter the nadir. SHould i sell it to some Revolutionaries for a major profit, keep hold of it and try and get five for a Ray Drenched Cinder but risk card draws that hurt myself, sell it to The Bazzar for a lesser profit but no increase in liberation of Night, or give it some person who needs it more then I?
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I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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The Master
Posts: 804
3/28/2016
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Kylestien wrote:
So, I recently (as in a minuite ago) obtained an Eyless Skull, and am wondering what to do with it since I can already enter the nadir. SHould i sell it to some Revolutionaries for a major profit, keep hold of it and try and get five for a Ray Drenched Cinder but risk card draws that hurt myself, sell it to The Bazzar for a lesser profit but no increase in liberation of Night, or give it some person who needs it more then I?
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Since you can already enter the Nadir, the only reason to go for the Cinder is to have it in your collection, so if you want to you can go for that, selling it to the revolution gives a nice amount of echoes and increase in the liberation of night doesn't do anything anyways, so why not help us wi...so it's a much better deal than selling it to the Bazaar, I mean, what would Bazaar do with those anyways?
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Kylestien
Posts: 749
3/28/2016
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The Master wrote:
Since you can already enter the Nadir, the only reason to go for the Cinder is to have it in your collection, so if you want to you can go for that, selling it to the revolution gives a nice amount of echoes and increase in the liberation of night doesn't do anything anyways, so why not help us wi...so it's a much better deal than selling it to the Bazaar, I mean, what would Bazaar do with those anyways?
You know, I get the feeling you work for revolutionaries.
Eh screw it, it's not like The Liberation Of Night is a every character wide thing that's gonna tip if I sell one to you guys. It's probably characer related. Probably.
WHat['s the worst that can happen?
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I will accept all actions, though I hold the right to refuse for my own reasons. However, if you explain WHY you send me a harmful action like Loitering or Dantes,And I feel the reason good, I will consider it more. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kylestien
Persuasive patron. You want a lesson, send me a message asking for one.
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lady ciel
Posts: 2548
3/25/2016
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You need to wait until you get the card again. So it is down to the RNG.
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Sorry RL means I am not a very active player at the moment. No social actions unless you are prepared to wait and definitely no sparring or other mult-action things.
No Calling Cards or boxed cats please. Will take dupes on the affluent photographers. Other social invitations welcome. Parabolan Kittens usually available, send me an in-game social action saying you want one and I will get one to you as soon as possible.
storynexus name - reveurciel
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The Master
Posts: 804
3/25/2016
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navchaa wrote:
Is the card drawn only in the Bazaar Side Streets or anywhere in London?
It can be drawn anywhere.
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http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
3/25/2016
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Macragg wrote:
Hm. Curious. I've just drawn the "A Misfortune at the Carnival" card as I have many times in the past, but today it is tagged as "can't discard". I can't tell if this is a new intended feature for this card (which seems odd as there's nothing otherwise different about it), or if it's a bug worth reporting.
Pretty sure of all of the following:
A. It is intentional. why?
B. We have swapped to favors and renown instead of connected for the tomb colonies, so:
C. It should be potentially far more lucrative (though currently the amber's lost rather than gained, if the bug's still there.) Theoretically, it should give 17.5 echoes for favoring the rubberies, i believe.
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Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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NiteBrite
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3/26/2016
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th8827 wrote:
What happens to undiscardable cards if your hand size shrinks?
For example, let's say that I have a 3 card hand. The two oldest slots have banked rare cards, and the newest slot has a bad undiscardable card that I want gone. If I move to a 2 card lodging, then back to a 3 card lodging, what happens?
I don't want to test this myself, in case that I lose the cards.
They go into your overflow and while you can't see them, they are still there. They will appear in your hand again as you clear it of cards or move back into the larger lodgings.
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I AM currently accepting calling cards.
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Guest
3/26/2016
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Is there some sort of tally or statistics on how many people have each of the four PoSI specializations? I'm guessing that Persuasive probably has the most since my two characters had those as their highest stat without really trying (until Nyte drank a buncha blood and got all weird, but whatever), but are there numbers lying around to back this up?
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Guest
3/26/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
Yes I believe those are the threads. Coincidentally, I am a dangerous specialization who could take on a new protege if anyone needs one. My influence is full at the moment, but I could probably snub a few old accounts I never do anything with anymore if needed.
Holy moly how do you have Dangerous 335? Hot diggity. If you don't mind, I'd like to take you up on that Dangerous offer. I'd really like to push the Dangerous stat for Dawn, but he's a pretty new account so right now he's sitting at
W: 23
S: 25
D: 32
P: 26
Is it better to wait till 70 so the Professions can't boost it anymore? Or shall I send you a calling card now?
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
3/27/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
Lessons are less useful at lower levels, but theres no reason to wait really. Just send me a calling card whenever and I'll clear some room for it and send you back a protege request when I can.
Are they? I thought they gave cp, not levels. I mean, the weekly boost is nice and lucrative, but it's only 250 cp a week- which is ludicrously lucrative, but minor enough that they're not usually going to be the main source of cp if you play just twice a day. Sure, you accelerate yourself past the 250 weekly cp, but you still do get 350 from the lessons if you do all 5 each week, so it's not a bad deal, and you can always swap to one that you aren't getting lessons for.
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I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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Guest
3/27/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
Lessons are less useful at lower levels, but theres no reason to wait really. Just send me a calling card whenever and I'll clear some room for it and send you back a protege request when I can.
Hmm, appears that I can't send the calling card invitation if influence > 90, unfortunately.
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roseamanelle
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3/27/2016
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Hello! My apologies for the interruption. I have two short queries:
1. I've just returned from a long hiatus and discovered that I do not have the quality "A Name Signed with a Flourish". When I first logged in again, I could choose my progress in Making My Name for Dangerous, Shadowy and Watchful but not Persuasive. Long before my hiatus, I made... careful arrangements with both the Barbed Wit and the Acclaimed Beauty and subsequently got exiled to the Tomb Colonies after receiving a Memento of Passion. However, my Memento is now nowhere to be found and both "Seen with a Barbed Wit" and "Seen with an Acclaimed Beauty" are at 6. At the same time, I'm told I'm "not ready to enter the Court" at the Shuttered Palace until I've made a name for myself, although my "Carving out a Reputation at Court" is at 3 (I don't actually remember if I was Banished from the Court previously). Is there any way I can return to where I was without having to play through all the lower-level Persuasive content again? I have many other uses of those actions such as planning Zee-Voyages, stealing things, grinding Echoes...
2. According to the wiki, the third option on "Going Gentle" reduces Connected:Society by 15 CP, but some commenters on that page found that their Connected:Society dropped by 10 levels. Has anyone here faced this problem as well? My Connected:Society is unfortunately rather low and I'd rather not lose 10 levels of it, or give up all my Favours:Tomb Colonies either, but the card is non-discardable.
Thank you for reading this! (I'm new here, so please tell me if there are any posting rules I've accidentally broken.)
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