 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
3/10/2016
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*Esquire (yes, I know in practice in the real world it's masculine but its nature is gender neutral and can be used by women in certain professions) Yeah, I don't know about that, I can put an Esq. after my name for professional reasons but no-one ever addresses me as that. (The gender-neutral term of address is "Counsel.")
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 Kestrel Zestvim Posts: 40
3/10/2016
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Well, I personally clapped with glee and cried "frabjous day!" when I signed into Fallen London! I'd been looking forward to this with Considerable Eagerness--I'm genderqueer, as is my character. I'm firmly in Camp Thank-You-For-Making-This-Affordable-and-Easy-to-Switch, but I don't forsee doing so. Doctor suits my character and gender needs admirably, and calls to my mind a variety of fun associations (time traveler, healer, scholar, charlatan, inventor...) I'm a wee bit disappointed I can't slip "lady" off my profile, simply because I've signed many notes "Mx. Zestvim" only to get a kindly-meant "dear lady!" back--but I've put my title on my scrapbook, and that ought to help.
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 dov Posts: 2580
3/10/2016
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Before I make my choice, do we know how this quality can be changed later? Is this readily accessible, or is this similar to how the POSI specializations "can be changed later"?
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 Mr Sables Posts: 597
3/10/2016
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dov wrote:
Before I make my choice, do we know how this quality can be changed later? Is this readily accessible, or is this similar to how the POSI specializations "can be changed later"?
It's on the 'urchin' card.
It's very easy to find, assuming the RNG likes you, as I've already seen it today since having set the terms. It takes only the items shown on the patch to change again; so around 200 hints, I believe, unless you're going for profession related terms or 'professor', etc.
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 Kittenpox Posts: 869
3/10/2016
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dov wrote:
Before I make my choice, do we know how this quality can be changed later? Is this readily accessible, or is this similar to how the POSI specializations "can be changed later"?
I believe it's going to be an option on 'The Roof-Tops: Urchins' Opportunity Card. (At least, that's what I think I read when choosing my title. It doesn't show in the echo though, so I may have misremembered that.)
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 Talkes Posts: 90
3/10/2016
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an_ocelot wrote:
absimiliard wrote:
There seems to be no generic, non-gendered, term available. All the non-gendered terms are profession related -- not in the game sense of profession but in the normal sense. In the case of "Citizen" it's carrying that whole egalitarian, revolutionary, thing -- which my character is very much not (despite what all the marks they ply for information believe). Let's brainstorm some options.
. . . what else? Going clerical: Father, Eminent, ..., similiar well-known and widely used terms for positions in other religions (I'm not well informed on the matter)- Chief - constable chief, gang chief/boss, tribe chief (this one probably searching for a cow-sized diamond or avenging his beloved)
- Chef
- Master - for expert craftsmen or any persons of significant proficiencies
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 Kittenpox Posts: 869
3/10/2016
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Robin Mask wrote:
dov wrote:
Before I make my choice, do we know how this quality can be changed later? Is this readily accessible, or is this similar to how the POSI specializations "can be changed later"?
It's on the 'urchin' card.
It's very easy to find, assuming the RNG likes you, as I've already seen it today since having set the terms. It takes only the items shown on the patch to change again; so around 200 hints, I believe, unless you're going for profession related terms or 'professor', etc.
You beat me to it - I was 2 minutes and 40 seconds too slow. :-p
Edit: (@dov - rather than leaving another comment for this... THANKYOU! <3 ) edited by Kittenpox on 3/10/2016
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
3/10/2016
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Comrade is even more pro-revolutionary than Citizen (think Soviet Russia rather than Revolutionary France).
Other suggestions for unlocks: Archeologist (could definitely be Professor I suppose) Governor/Excellency (Successful term) Detective (Velocipede squad) Mystic (or something related to the Glass/Shroud conflict) Officer (rather than specific ranks? Could also work for constable types) Tutor: unfinished with the university
Other suggestions for mentally younger characters Miss (for those who'd prefer not to be Madam yet) Master (for the younger gentleman set) Young'un Reader Student
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 Kaijyuu Posts: 1047
3/10/2016
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I really wanted a "sir- er, madam- er, whatever" option. Not just a non-gendered term but one highlighting it. edited by Kaijyuu on 3/10/2016
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 ashdenej Posts: 66
3/10/2016
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I agree that it's a bit of a shame that "ah, Si-, er, Mad-, er, yes" is totally gone, even as a legacy option. I'd rather gotten used to being addressed as such. Is this one of those "clap your hands and believe in hidden branches" sort of things? If, for example, you could get the Governor title by getting your Legacy Established, would that be hidden by default to new players - or would it instead be locked but visible, giving them something to shoot for?
E: Perhaps "Advocate" might be a good term of address? You'd either be a barrister or a supporter of... something. And governors (as well as ambassadors & a bunch of other people) could be addressed as "Excellency", which is nicely neutral. edited by ashdenej on 3/11/2016
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 NiteBrite Posts: 1019
3/10/2016
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I got excited seeing the term Monster, but then I saw it had the word hunter after it. I guess my reputation abomination just isn't high enough yet for people to say "Greetings, you Monster".
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 Owen Wulf Posts: 715
3/10/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
I got excited seeing the term Monster, but then I saw it had the word hunter after it. I guess my reputation abomination just isn't high enough yet for people to say "Greetings, you Monster".
I quite like being recognized as a "Monster-Hunter" now, I have modeled my character as a hunter and this seemed as good a distinction as any. It was hard choice between this and Sergeant, because I always thought my character did some time in the Prussian Army before coming down to London.
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.JPG) Snotra Posts: 67
3/10/2016
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'Your Grace' is rather neutral. It can refer to a Duke or Duchess or Bishop. 'Oi, You' could also work for the less than precious.
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 dov Posts: 2580
3/10/2016
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Kittenpox wrote:
Robin Mask wrote:
dov wrote:
Before I make my choice, do we know how this quality can be changed later? Is this readily accessible, or is this similar to how the POSI specializations "can be changed later"? It's on the 'urchin' card.
You beat me to it - I was 2 minutes and 40 seconds too slow. :-p No worries I've sent you both something... tasty. :-)
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 dov Posts: 2580
3/10/2016
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Actually, 'Governor' really makes a lot of sense to those who have completed a term. It fits with the other titles, and is also a common way to address someone who was actually a governor.
I'm surprised there is no Fate-locked option for something exotic, as in the House of Chimes ("Your Highness", maybe?)
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 phryne Posts: 1351
3/10/2016
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I think they should add the (mumble) form of address from Sunless Sea, I always thought that was hilarious...
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 Karwelas Posts: 18
3/10/2016
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I think it would be interesting to have some titles connected to Surface. After all, some folk still dream about it... Oh, dear Sun.
Surfacer... It sounds a bit weird, but I don't have better ideas.
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 absimiliard Posts: 759
3/10/2016
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Good ideas for a better term, but I think Ocelot got the best of the lot in the first try.
I'm having a really hard time topping "Friend", though for some it might carry Quaker connotations I quite like it.
I'm partial to "Elder", but it would only work for older characters. (or Mormons, of course)
It's tough though, coming up with a good gender-neutral term of address that doesn't involve a profession, or being tied to one or more political factions in the Neath.
Oh, whoever suggested "Neighbor", that's pretty good too.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
3/10/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
Oh, whoever suggested "Neighbor", that's pretty good too.
It's a particular day in the Neathly-hood, A particular day to be 'neath the world Could you be mine, Would you be mine? Won't you be... My neighbor?
(Sorry. You too may enjoy a first class ear worm courtesy of the young'uns running about my home).
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 Toran Posts: 193
3/10/2016
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Another option:
Lunch
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