 babelfishwars Administrator Posts: 1152
3/10/2016
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As you may have seen here: http://failbettergames.tumblr.com/post/140748143699/the-mysterious-and-indistinct-art-of-pronouns - we're making some changes to the way people in Fallen London will address you.
- The game will get out of the way of your character’s gender, and take the Sunless Sea approach of asking for your preferred form of address.
- We’re adding titles (some of which will be unlockable, depending on profession and other factors).
- Established players will be given a patch card allowing them to choose a new preferred form of address.
- The character sign-up screen will be the same, and your chosen gender will still be shown on your profile.
Some of these changes are now active, the rest will be implemented over the next few days.
Any bugs, please send them to support@failbettergames.com
Let us know what you think.
-- Mars, God of Fish; Leaning Tower of Fish
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 metasynthie Posts: 645
3/10/2016
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Note for people using the title storylet: some of the costs are not listed as costs (price-tag), but as unlock requirements (padlock) -- however, if there are items listed in the requirements, they may be consumed! Just so you know!
Looks like the highest-tier Professions each have a title, quite cool!
-- Positively antique http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/metasynthie
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
3/10/2016
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Ooh, decisions, decisions . . . I think the closest to how I see my character is "Professor," even though I've never before considered such a formalized approach to "must know everything." Fun!
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
3/10/2016
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The ones for professor (25 compromising documents,1 Uncanny Incunabula) were consumed.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Mr Sables Posts: 597
3/10/2016
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Ooh, decisions, decisions!
I was torn between 'professor' and 'Lord', but eventually opted for Lord The list of potential choices was great, and I'm so glad it's possible to change them later on, too
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 Appolonia Posts: 248
3/10/2016
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Is there any chance the chosen 'Addressed As' could display on the Profile? It would be a great boon to player to player social actions to know in advance how a person prefers to be addressed.
Surely the urchins could be bribed to tell us all!
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Appolonia%20VonRavenscroft
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 Darkroot Posts: 48
3/10/2016
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Neat. I guess the prices are to stop people from just wildly switching their terms of address? Seems odd that there are none with no reqs, though.
Also, requesting "Baron/Baroness" as titles in future.
-- Me!
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
3/10/2016
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Darkroot wrote:
Also, requesting "Baron/Baroness" as titles in future.
A Baron or Baroness would very much fit under Lord/Lady! (Hubris is a Baron - he's more properly Lord Hubris. Sir Frederick probably isn't actually a Baronet - it's most likely just a pen name.) edited by Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook on 3/10/2016
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Rysiek Posts: 693
3/10/2016
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Please add constable some time... have no idea what else fits a cop...
-- The silesian Detective http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rysiek The incredible Warsovian. She certainly didn't steal your diamond necklace. That idea is RIDICULOUS... http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maria~Konstantynopolska The silesian vengeance seeker http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Agata~Grym
I apologize for any and all anachronisms. I am too lazy to check some facts if I am sure they are from the 1890s or sometimes think they are.
Oh, and by the way, I am not polish, I am GERMAN to clarify for heavens sake... tylko po polsku mowie. Um Himmelswillen...
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
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"Sergeant" and "Lieutenant" are both police ranks - the former more common than the latter.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 Mr Sables Posts: 597
3/10/2016
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Sir Frederick Tanah-Chook wrote:
"Sergeant" and "Lieutenant" are both police ranks - the former more common than the latter.
To be fair, they're also military ranks . . .
Constable is pretty much exclusive to the police, as far as I know, plus the police will almost always be referred to by this (at least the ones Joe Public meets, as I have no doubt the police would refer to their superiors by titles such as 'lieutenant' or 'sergeant'). I think "P.C.", "Police Constable", or "Constable" would be pretty good titles to have, to be honest . . . especially as they sound more British than using ranks. edited by RobinMask on 3/10/2016
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
3/10/2016
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I've just drawn the Urchins (they're awfully busy, aren't they) and changing your form of address has exactly the same costs (and you could in theory change it to your current title). I'm thankful it doesn't take Fate.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 babelfishwars Administrator Posts: 1152
3/10/2016
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Appolonia wrote:
Is there any chance the chosen 'Addressed As' could display on the Profile? It would be a great boon to player to player social actions to know in advance how a person prefers to be addressed.
Surely the urchins could be bribed to tell us all!
You could add it to your Scrapbook, as here: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Moomin
-- Mars, God of Fish; Leaning Tower of Fish
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 Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493
3/10/2016
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Robin Mask wrote:
To be fair, they're also military ranks . . .
Oh, yeah, totally. I'm just saying, I wouldn't for a moment look askance at anyone who used them to represent police ranking instead.
-- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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 absimiliard Posts: 759
3/10/2016
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I just got hit up by the urchin for a preferred form of address. I would like to say I'm pleased, but I'm not.
There seems to be no generic, non-gendered, term available. All the non-gendered terms are profession related -- not in the game sense of profession but in the normal sense. In the case of "Citizen" it's carrying that whole egalitarian, revolutionary, thing -- which my character is very much not (despite what all the marks they ply for information believe).
I ended up choosing Lieutenant as it seemed the only thing even close to anything in my character's history as a zailor.
I guess I'll need to begin the storyline involving curing my character's terror of the Zee. (coming from Sunless Sea the Terror is a very real thing) The only non-gendered terms I'm really feeling happy with is 'Captain', and I can't get that without getting a ship.
Bother.
I'd been hoping to put off the whole POSI thing for much longer. (at a minimum until I had a natural 100 in all stats) edited by absimiliard on 3/10/2016
-- "Because, Parabola!" -- the Curious Captain Eating nightmares from friends -- and I'm easy to befriend. Absimiliard: the Black Rose of Wolfstack Docks
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 maleclypse Posts: 259
3/10/2016
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I was vaguely questioning a 25 echo cost to be a captain. I mean that's a little high for a title that you can change for free anytime you change high level professions. But so it goes.
-- Maintaining a controlling interest in my soul requires a pretty constant negotiation between the various shareholder interests. Thankfully the Fingerkings 23% control makes a pretty good foil to unite the other factions enough to get to 51%.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maleclypse
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 Kade Carrion (an_ocelot) Posts: 1372
3/10/2016
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absimiliard wrote:
There seems to be no generic, non-gendered, term available. All the non-gendered terms are profession related -- not in the game sense of profession but in the normal sense. In the case of "Citizen" it's carrying that whole egalitarian, revolutionary, thing -- which my character is very much not (despite what all the marks they ply for information believe). Let's brainstorm some options.
. . . what else?
-- Social Actions: send them to Kade Carrion (she/her; no Tournament of Lilies, please). an_ocelot has gone NORTH and cannot benefit from social actions!
Possibly-Useful Things: Spreadsheets and hints and link collections, oh my.
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 Appolonia Posts: 248
3/10/2016
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an_ocelot wrote:
]Let's brainstorm some options.
. . . what else?
Londoner Neathperson Neighbor Fallen-folk (I think we could all be collectively called the 'Fallen', i.e., person from Fallen London)
I would defer to those who play characters of ambiguous gender as to what they like best.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Appolonia%20VonRavenscroft
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 Mr Sables Posts: 597
3/10/2016
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an_ocelot wrote:
absimiliard wrote:
There seems to be no generic, non-gendered, term available. All the non-gendered terms are profession related -- not in the game sense of profession but in the normal sense. In the case of "Citizen" it's carrying that whole egalitarian, revolutionary, thing -- which my character is very much not (despite what all the marks they ply for information believe). Let's brainstorm some options.
. . . what else?
- fellow (perhaps) - comrade - compatriot - ally - associate
. . . I don't think English really lends itself to gender-neutral terms :-S edited by RobinMask on 3/10/2016
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 genesis Posts: 924
3/10/2016
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These are rather reaching for it it, but nonetheless...:
*Servant/Subject of her Enduring Majesty
*Esquire (yes, I know in practice in the real world it's masculine but its nature is gender neutral and can be used by women in certain professions)
*Personage
* Gentle One
-- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/mikey_thinkin
Keeping track of incomplete content and loose ends in Fallen London
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