maleclypse wrote:

Dine with the Crew of the Galatea: Rumors option no longer gives connected or Favors.

Ah darn, assuming that's the second option? I used to use that all the time to increase Connected and then trade it for Connected: Urchins and get scraps. Vex.

dov wrote:

Conflict cards used to be about a conflict of interest - "you're connected to two factions, which do you help now?". It would damage your relations with one and increase your relations with the other. So, besides whatever monetary or quality reward, there was strong RP involved in the decision.

Now, some of the conflict cards seem to be about "both these factions owe you favours - choose now from which of them to collect them all". The fact that you can't trade Favours with one faction into Favours with the other treats the whole Favours mechanic as nothing more than currency, instead of a RP decision. The only factor is monetary. Of course, this is even more pronounced in the non-discardable conflict cards.

I wrote before that I feel the game really needs some mechanism to trade favours for favours between factions. If the conflicts cards are not the way this is going, then perhaps some other mechanic (perhaps similar to the carousel of converting 3rd tier items in a big loop).

I think the problem is exacerbated by quite how profitable, in EPA, some of the conflict cards are. The core problem, is that without storylets giving you some way to use up favors as you get them, there's nothing else to use them for but giant 7 favor conflicts. And you still have no reason not to get them, every time the cards come up.

Criminals have several ways to use favors. Docks promote going on expeditions, coincidentally giving Fate based expeditions a push (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). But what can you repeatedly do with Tomb-Colonist favors? Go gentle.

Docks only giving 2 favors seemed like a step in the right direction. Profitable, but balanced - considering how many demands there are for Orphans connected. Having even that go all/nothing seems like a step away from the balance they were making.

I really liked the variety in conflicts between high-level, undiscardable; high-level, discardable; and mid-level. It seemed less "gamey" and artificial then the "all-high-end-all-the-time" way FBG seems to favor now.
edited by MrBurnside on 4/13/2016

I just bought a round at the Rusty Tramp, and all I got was some MW.

Gonen wrote:

Mizadil wrote:

I just bought a round at the Rusty Tramp, and all I got was some MW.

Right. Also to me. Very surprising. Not that many oppertuneties to gain favors... Perhaps still an on going changes?

I had 5 favors at the time, my guess is this action maxes out at 4 or 5.

I don't seem to have any renown that I'm aware of. Which category would I see that in?

If you're after Docks actions and don't want to grind, you can also just keep an eye out for these Airs when you happen to do something else that changes Airs of London

Gonen wrote:

Yes, but it does give 2 favours (if you are staying at 5 favours beforehand).
I think Grenem mis-typed and meant the Acacia/docks conflict card (reminder, I quoted her from other topic).
Am I right, Grenem?

Nope, you're dreaming. i wish you were right, but you're dreaming. I had favors 5, and got no more for the choosing docks over urchins. they instead gave 20.7 echoes in material rewards, which is not even a quality consolation prize!
edited by Grenem on 4/11/2016