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Expedition question
 ohioastro Posts: 2
2/18/2016
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Hello all. I've been knocking around in Fallen London for about a month, having fun noodling along. I discovered it after getting and playing Sunless Sea, which is also solid. I think I've hit something that I can't find: I went into an expedition, didn't have enough supplies, and it is now mathematically impossible for me to reach the goal (20) given what I have (11 supplies, 7 progress). I know how to get the supplies once I get out - is there any way short of burning a bunch of actions to abandon it? Or do I have to run out of supplies first and then restock?
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 malthaussen Posts: 1060
2/19/2016
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@Fadi_efendi: Presumably you mean Temple of Uttermost Wind, not Temple of Blue Heaven. The Gallery of Serpents is said to have the richest rewards, but as I have yet to do it, I cannot say. I was certainly underwhelmed by the Temple of Uttermost Wind from a story standpoint.
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 Wormwood Posts: 17
2/20/2016
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fadi_efendi wrote:
While we're on the subject of expeditions, I have some fate I wanted to spend on one either the Temple of the Uttermost Wind or the Gallery of Serpents (since I don't have enough for both). I wanted ask for guidance from people who have played through either or both storylets. Which one did you prefer, story-wise? edited by fadi_efendi on 2/19/2016
Having done both, even if you only have a small amount of Fate to spend, if you want story I would save it for other opportunities.
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
2/18/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
Using Docks connections is most efficient from an endgame point of view but I'm not sure about earlier in the game. If you already have the item costs, buying with Whispered Hints is very good as the option averages 1.5 supplies and .5 Map Scraps each action. But yeah, with access to good grinds the Pewter Mug is most efficient from an EPA (echo per action) point of view - though I've heard for the highly-profitable Gallery of Serpents fate expedition, profits are high enough that the average best EPA is actually spending echoes directly. Absolute nonsense. Even if paying through the nose is best, 10 echoes and 4 actions for 4 supplies is easily trumped by 13.5 echoes and 2 actions for 5 supplies, which is strong-backed labors.
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 Dr Cop Posts: 38
2/19/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
Using Docks connections is most efficient from an endgame point of view but I'm not sure about earlier in the game. If you already have the item costs, buying with Whispered Hints is very good as the option averages 1.5 supplies and .5 Map Scraps each action. But yeah, with access to good grinds the Pewter Mug is most efficient from an EPA (echo per action) point of view - though I've heard for the highly-profitable Gallery of Serpents fate expedition, profits are high enough that the average best EPA is actually spending echoes directly.
Whispered hints isn't quite as good as that.
I recorded ~300 attempts and came up with a ~66% chance for 1 supply, 1 map scrap, 33% chance for 2 supplies. (And I only started recording attempts after feeling like the first option came up much more than the other.) I think there's a spreadsheet with a much larger dataset that puts the odds at roughly 60/40.
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