Charlotte_de_Witte
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2/16/2016
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Oh, Lady in Lilac why must you hide from me so!! 
I saw some posts already along this vein being talked about, and I sympathies greatly; so I thought I'd start a separate thread to discus everyone's favourite irrigo irritant.
Not to worry; I understand that the Feast cards are intended to work the way they do. Making Lilac hard to find fits well with her story; and frustration is exciting (sort of) in it's own masochistic way. (That and I now suspect the mighty RNG [All praise it's glorious name!!] has escaped from its bonds in FBG's basement and now seeks to create a real Unterzee filled with FL players' sweet delicious tears...  )
I know she'll turn up eventually... I hope... 
So, this is not really intended as feedback per se, but I thought it might be helpful to have somewhere to vent collective frustration, no matter how impotent. Perhaps turn that energy into suggesting ideas for possible improvements/tweaks to the FotER system while we all wait for the tardy Mrs Clathermont to finally make her appearance? (Or the An Encounters at the Feast card, if that one is getting to you as well).
Perhaps gather some ideas for card deck trimming to improve the draw rate of Feast of the Rose cards as well? Or questions about the current mechanics/story? Whatever would be most helpful 
Here then are my own ideas on the lovely Millicent for what they may be worth
- Perhaps Lilac might work well a little like the Mr. Sacks cards at Christmas?
FBG release a card at the beginning of the Feast of the Rose that starts the story off (either a card with a really high frequency rating or maybe a universal storylet). Then have cards in the deck that have the player catching sight of/ actively searching for Lilac. A glimpse of purple in a crowded room, spotting her loitering at a dance etc. etc. Again the frequency of these would then increase exponentially as the Feast went ever on. It would also be a good way to expand on her character and so not have newer players ask, 'Who is this woman?' (As it's not really obvious if you are still new enough to not be yet started on the Clathermont story).
Edit: I see Lilac character's and motive is already well covered by the questions you can ask at the Panopticon- but I still think it would be fun to see examples of her Irrigo-magic in action while trying to chase her down.
With each card that they played, the player could gain points toward a 'Finding Lilac' value unlocked by the initial story/card. (Maybe let the player gain a little masqueing on each of these card as well?) Then when the player has played enough cards to track down Lilac at the Panopticon/catch her in a net, have her Parlour open up permanently to them until the end of the feast, just like it does with tattoos. (There could even be a small value fate option on the tracking cards to find her lair more quickly? Not an uncontroversial suggestion I know; but if someone has payed a lot of money to get a great horde of fate-locked feast gifts I imagine they might be willing to pay 2 or 3 more to meet Lilac all the quicker?? Especially if that option also had fun text/extra lore/masqueing with it.)
Then once they'd finally found Lilac and her Parlour the player could exchange gifts/get tattoos/new companions with a little more leisure. Using much the same system from then on as Penstock's Wicket. (I suppose you could even work it into the Irrigo system in some way if there was a need to limit the frequency of visits further? Although I imagine that would probably be very tricky to make work)
This all likely has lots of flaws to it (which of course is why I offer it up to criticism :-) ), but I think something like this would keep some of the random element, fits fairly well with Lilac's story (and could even add to it as the player would have a greater in game role in looking for her); and also maybe be a little less anxiety inducing? This all would of course be an awful lot of work for FBG, but that's not going to stop me from suggesting it  -
Edit: On a little further thought -A much simpler idea. Why not let players exchange feast gifts for masqueing in the current tattoo parlour? Then players would only need to find Lilac once each feast, rather than repeatedly track her down.
And finally to try to summon the Lilac Lady through song... Who knows it might work? (Really, really hope there's an access code this year)
Edit: Song does work!- I just saw a lovely play about dragons :-)
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Pyrodinium
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2/16/2016
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What if we can recommend an acquaintance like the Amanuensis card? Like "Ms. Lilac, I think you should visit my friend so and so. She has lots of teeth and tongues."
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Optimatum
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2/17/2016
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Honestly the Feast card is the one I'm lacking in right now. I only need the Lilac card once per Fate companion, but I need the Feast one maybe 15 times each. And it's just so profitable!
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navchaa
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2/17/2016
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Happy Londoner wrote:
Hello, people! Can you explain the following thing? Masking is exchanged for companions. Non-fated Masking cap is 30. I have 30. Should I keep exchanging gifts (to trade them for Masking one more time in the future) if I want more companions or is it possible to exchange it for a companion just once?
To get masquing, you can use options on the Feast of the Rose card to raise it to 20. Thereafter, you should use non-Fate gifts to get it to 30; and beyond 30, Fate gifts. Note that you can always use gifts (Fate or non-Fate) to raise masquing from 0, it is merely a waste of resources since masquing up to 20 can be got for the price of only an action, while the gifts need actions (one from your friend, and one from you) and resources.
If you want a companion worth more than 30 masquing, then yes, you need the Lilac card to trade in Fate gifts to do that. But if you only want non-Fate companions, i.e. those that require 30 masquing or below, then increasing your masquing above 30 only means that you are spending Fate items for no compelling reason aside from expediency. The better way is to raise masquing to whatever you need, trade it in for a companion and then rinse and repeat.
th8827 wrote:
Lilac seems to hate me. I got her once, to start the tattoo quest. And then, nothing more.
I have drawn the feast card once, and got the cutest companion out of the list (Costermonger). I need Lilac and the Feast to both show up again, if I hope to get Lettice, though. The Pentacost Ape and the Diplomat are also on my priority list. Maybe Ghostly Presence, too, because why not? Hopefully, things go well, and I at least get them. Preferably, I get everyone common this year.
What does Lilac do wit the hundreds of glasses of teeth that she receives each year, anyways? The other gifts, I can see some use for, but not the teeth.
edited by th8827 on 2/17/2016
You're luckier than me - Lilac is simply avoiding me. I think I have too many Intimate of Devils cards clogging up my deck, but I can't afford to bring it down till I get the Quiet Deviless. I got the Presbyterate Diplomat with the Encounters at the Feast card and am now anxiously waiting for Lilac to finally turn up so I can nab a Lettice and my beloved Revolutionary Firebrand Reforged. (Sorry, Myrto my intended, if you're reading this! I know we have an arrangement, but it is after one of convenience ;p)
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Ava Pepper
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2/17/2016
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th8827 wrote:
What does Lilac do wit the hundreds of glasses of teeth that she receives each year, anyways? The other gifts, I can see some use for, but not the teeth.
Racy poetry is always popular. Pickled liars-tongues are great antipasto year-round, and buttered chess-pieces are delicious on toast-points. Singed playing cards are useful in any card game, and pink-painted cats can catch any-color rat any time, any day.
Maybe she keeps the glasses of teeth for later, to replace any that might be lost trying sweets like Mr Heart's candied hearts. I bit my tongue and a couple of someone else's the last time I tried those.
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dov
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2/17/2016
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Happy Londoner wrote:
Hello, people! Can you explain the following thing? Masking is exchanged for companions. Non-fated Masking cap is 30. I have 30. Should I keep exchanging gifts (to trade them for Masking one more time in the future) if I want more companions or is it possible to exchange it for a companion just once?
Specifically:
- Use the pinned storylet "Celebrate the Feast of the Exceptional Rose!" to exchange gifts.
- Use the (Ubiquitous Frequency) card "The Feast of the Rose!" to get Masquing up to 20 (or 21).
- Use the (Frequent Frequency) card "The Lady in Lilac to surrender gifts for Masquing (non-Fate gifts only raise Masquing up to 30, Fate gifts can raise Masquing without a cap)
- Use the (Frequent Frequency) card "An Encounter at the Feast" to exchange Masquing for unique companions.
So, if you anticipate you'll need more Masquing over-20 for more companions, feel free to keep exchanging gifts. Just be midful of the caps when you plan to convert them to Masquing.
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Optimatum
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2/17/2016
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navchaa wrote:
I think I have too many Intimate of Devils cards clogging up my deck, but I can't afford to bring it down till I get the Quiet Deviless.
Note that if you have a Brass Embassy Sanctum the Quiet Deviless is available year-round for 40 Fate (and a Portfolio of Souls) rather than 70 Fate of gifts and lots of actions/items worth of Masquing.
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Myrto
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2/18/2016
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th8827 wrote:
You're luckier than me - Lilac is simply avoiding me. I think I have too many Intimate of Devils cards clogging up my deck, but I can't afford to bring it down till I get the Quiet Deviless. I got the Presbyterate Diplomat with the Encounters at the Feast card and am now anxiously waiting for Lilac to finally turn up so I can nab a Lettice and my beloved Revolutionary Firebrand Reforged. (Sorry, Myrto my intended, if you're reading this! I know we have an arrangement, but it is after one of convenience ;p)
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th8827
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2/17/2016
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Lilac seems to hate me. I got her once, to start the tattoo quest. And then, nothing more.
I have drawn the feast card once, and got the cutest companion out of the list (Costermonger). I need Lilac and the Feast to both show up again, if I hope to get Lettice, though. The Pentacost Ape and the Diplomat are also on my priority list. Maybe Ghostly Presence, too, because why not? Hopefully, things go well, and I at least get them. Preferably, I get everyone common this year.
What does Lilac do with the hundreds of glasses of teeth that she receives each year, anyways? The other gifts, I can see some use for, but not the teeth.
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th8827
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2/22/2016
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I got most of the companions that I wanted. Cat's Chiefest Claws will have to wait until next year, but it was a good haul, overall.
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metasynthie
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2/22/2016
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Squeaky wheel keep on squeakin'
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Myrto
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2/18/2016
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Also, I managed to draw a salt weasel (which is cool),but still no Lilac!! Grrr.
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metasynthie
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2/21/2016
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It sounds like it might be an opportune time for the yearly Lilac access code to be released, and perhaps for this branch to reappear: http://fallenlondon.wikia.com/wiki/Find_the_Lady_in_Lilac
...at least for those with the foresight and experienced gumption to stock up on some Favourable Circumstances in advance. You never know when you might need Favourable Circumstances.
Keep in mind that there are five days left for the Lilac and Encounters cards, even though the other Masquing options and gift exchange end tomorrow. It's also not too late to thin your deck by calling in favours, selling off pets and assistants, selling your soul, moving to a remote address, tossing out half-grown plants, drawing cards in less eventful neighborhoods, etc. You could even consider sacrificing 8-12 actions to refresh your card deck by starting and abandoning a Flash Lay.
EDIT: I hope nobody took this advice in such a way that cost them anything significant, seeing as the cards are now storylets!
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Anne Auclair
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2/20/2016
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navchaa
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2/17/2016
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I finally drew Lilac once and am now pleased to announce that my Revolutionary Firebrand is indeed, erhem, Reforged. (What a euphemism, eh eh?)
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navchaa
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2/17/2016
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Ava Pepper wrote:
Maybe she keeps the glasses of teeth for later, to replace any that might be lost trying sweets like Mr Heart's candied hearts. I bit my tongue and a couple of someone else's the last time I tried those.
Ha! There I was thinking she had rodentine teeth that grow and grow and need constant replacing?
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Charlotte_de_Witte
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2/17/2016
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I like this idea a lot, it's a small tweak with a large impact and adds to the social aspect of the Feast I'd add that such an option might even be thematically restricted to other players you are Seen With? - 'No thank-you. I don't want to fill in your questionnaire again Ms. Lilac, why not ask my partner instead?'
Pyrodinium wrote:
What if we can recommend an acquaintance like the Amanuensis card? Like "Ms. Lilac, I think you should visit my friend so and so. She has lots of teeth and tongues."
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Grenem
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2/16/2016
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I drew her twice already... now that i have no use for her...
1 action for 8 points persuasive is pretty good, i suppose.
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Optimatum
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2/18/2016
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Nah, she shows up everywhere the same if you wait long enough. The real question is how to best sacrifice for the blessing of the RNG.
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zhirzzh
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2/18/2016
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Is there any reason that you can't draw the encounter card while holding a feast and Lilac card in-hand? I'm starting to go mad. Been sitting at 100 masquing for days now.
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Jeremy Avalon
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2/18/2016
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zhirzzh wrote:
Is there any reason that you can't draw the encounter card while holding a feast and Lilac card in-hand? I'm starting to go mad. Been sitting at 100 masquing for days now.
There is not. RNG is RNG.
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th8827
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2/18/2016
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Well... I got the Encounter card, which I used for the diplomat. Then, 10 minutes later, I got Lilac. I'm holding her hostage in my hand until I grind back the 10 Masquing through the Feast card (which now refuses to show up, despite being Ubiquitous Frequency, since I want it), and when I have the Encounter card ready to go again.
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Arensen
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2/18/2016
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Dubinee Finnat wrote:
For what it's worth, we were told that Lilac has a tendency to avoid those who seek her the most. This to me suggests that you should stop looking and go home (that is, to your lodgings) and perhaps she will eventually turn up there. I have no idea whether this is true, but it does make a certain kind of sense?
Ah, I've been flipping cards in the Bazaar Sidestreets due to also needing the very faint chance at Skin of the Bazaar to head towards Correspondent. Oh well. I suppose Lilac will come in her own time.
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Johanna de Silentio
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2/18/2016
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100 Masquing, waiting for my Revolutionary Firebrand.... I'm starting to get really nervous right now. Can I safely go and meet Lilac at Veilgarden and get a tattoo or does this storyline require spending some masquing? Last thing I need is to spend it accidentally and get stuck with 95 or something, when I need exactly 100 for my beloved companion.
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lady ciel
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2/18/2016
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Getting a tattoo doesn't take masquing.
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Anne Auclair
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2/18/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
I've had a little luck myself with both cards inside the Empress's Court - My only guess being Lilac's taken an interest in the play I'm writing?
Despite my suggestion this not really be feedback; I suppose another question to ask is if anyone is actually happy with the current system?
This is my first feast and I'm rather happy with the present system. I mean, yeah, getting the Feast cards, the Lilac cards, and the Encounter cards to cooperate can be frustrating as hell (especially when you accidentally discard the Lilac card you were saving, argh), but its incredibly satisfying when you finally make it all work.
And it thematically makes sense for all these cards to be somewhat random. The Feast card conveys the chaotic ubiquity of the celebrations. The Lilac card is about a woman who is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to find unless she wishes it. The Encounter card is about a surprise meeting that has been arranged for you. Making these an easily accessible storylet would ruin the atmosphere.
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Passionario
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2/19/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
I'd be very glad to hear other people's views on this; because personally I find the intended aim of the current design of the Masqueing system a little confusing.
At the very least, it should be possible to encounter Lilac during the appropriate part of the Feast by burning Favourable Circumstances.
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th8827
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2/19/2016
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I have been holding Lilac and the regular Feast card hostage in my hand since Yesterday, but still no Encounter. I want Lettice, but I am not willing to spend my Fate item unless I am guaranteed to use the Masquing...
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Grenem
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2/19/2016
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a reasonable patch, in my opinion, is adding two stats:
An encounter at the feast, and An encounter with liliac.
Each one goes up a level every time you use the card, no matter what you do with it.
If, 1 week after liliac is added to the deck, your level is lower than x, where x is a reasonable, if low, number of draws of liliac, you gain access to a storylet that locks after you reach lv. x, and is effectively the normal card.
Encounter working the same way should make both more practical. it probably wouldn't, because it's a lot simpler to describe this than implement it, but it's what i'd like to have.
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phryne
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2/19/2016
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Yeeeeah, found her and got my tattoo! 
Now I need to find her again for the gift exchange....
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Zero
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2/19/2016
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Finally got her! I now have my first, sweet tattoo. God bless the RNG.
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Mr Sables
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2/19/2016
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Arensen wrote:
Juno wrote:
Misery loves company. I am yet another who has yet to see the color lilac.
Perhaps at the end of it all those of us who never got to meet her can form a Band of the Accursed and Unfortunate, of sorts.
Honestly, if I don't end up seeing Lilac, I'll just end up quitting Fallen London. Kind of sick of rare events making things impossible for me to succeed just because I have bad luck.
I kind of half-agree with you . . .
While I wouldn't go so far as to quit the game, I do think I'll be extremely reluctant to buy Fate at the next festival. The "Encounters" card almost never shows, while Lilac rarely shows, and - overall - I feel like it's way too dicey a risk . . . I've managed to use my Fate masquing, but because the "Encounters" card never shows it means I can't use my non-Fate masquing.
Next year, I may just keep certain Fate options (no trading in), just to be a collector and say I have special companions/weapons . . . I 100% won't be using masquing or collecting masquing, not unless changes are made. It's too big a risk.
I feel awful for anyone that's spent RL money on Fate and still hasn't found her :-/
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th8827
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2/20/2016
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First, I already have Flute Street, so no need to worry about the Glim sculptor. I am grinding up Salon points with the Townhouse, when available. The only 4-card that I have is the Royal Beth, which I use for Scraps, and my Watchful is high enough to be relatively reliable for successes, so I don't mind drawing it occasionally.
Second, I finally drew the Encounter card! Only 48 hours of nonstop card flipping while also making productive use of my time by grinding Whirring Contraptions at Wilmot's End. (Started at 0, now at 5 and a half) Now to do it again, in order to trade in my Monkey for an Ape. Then, again, to go ghost busting. Then... I have not planned that far ahead yet.
There are too many good things on that card, and I want them all... I guess that it will be something to look forward to next year.
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Arensen
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Anne Auclair wrote:
This is my first feast and I'm rather happy with the present system. I mean, yeah, getting the Feast cards, the Lilac cards, and the Encounter cards to cooperate can be frustrating as hell (especially when you accidentally discard the Lilac card you were saving, argh), but its incredibly satisfying when you finally make it all work.
And it thematically makes sense for all these cards to be somewhat random. The Feast card conveys the chaotic ubiquity of the celebrations. The Lilac card is about a woman who is incredibly difficult, if not impossible, to find unless she wishes it. The Encounter card is about a surprise meeting that has been arranged for you. Making these an easily accessible storylet would ruin the atmosphere.
While I admit that it's certainly in theme for the way it progresses, and I am really enjoying the atmosphere, it's destroying my already fragile morale. See, I lost my chance at a 5-card lodgings due to my luck in Christmas being shockingly bad, and my luck with my Noman was no better--only got it to Friend 6. I left FL for a month in a fit of disillusionment--and returned to find my Notability had been destroyed. I sincerely hope we get an access code, or a frequency increase soon, because if I fail to get a Tattoo because of bad luck with the Feast cards, then I suspect that will be honestly too much for my fragile little soul to cope with. Which reminds me, I should really figure out exactly where it's gone...
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Emain Ablach
Posts: 348
2/18/2016
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Still no Lilac for me either. She's late. How rude.
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Pyrodinium
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2/18/2016
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She finally showed up for my alt and got a Tattoo out of the deal. It might not be enough to get most of the Masquing related Companions though.
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Juno
Posts: 63
2/19/2016
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Misery loves company. I am yet another who has yet to see the color lilac.
Perhaps at the end of it all those of us who never got to meet her can form a Band of the Accursed and Unfortunate, of sorts.
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Arensen
Posts: 69
2/19/2016
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Juno wrote:
Misery loves company. I am yet another who has yet to see the color lilac.
Perhaps at the end of it all those of us who never got to meet her can form a Band of the Accursed and Unfortunate, of sorts.
Honestly, if I don't end up seeing Lilac, I'll just end up quitting Fallen London. Kind of sick of rare events making things impossible for me to succeed just because I have bad luck.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
2/18/2016
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I've had a little luck myself with both cards inside the Empress's Court - My only guess being Lilac's taken an interest in the play I'm writing?
Despite my suggestion this not really be feedback; I suppose another question to ask is if anyone is actually happy with the current system?
My inclination would be towards a resounding 'No!!', but then it is easy to let bias colour your thinking and be motivated to comment on something you dislike.
I can see it does have it's merits - It melds current mechanics well with the story and helps avoid the redundancy of people getting everything they want/can afford in one year and then having little use for the Feast the next. (But why not let players get all the companions in one go if they are willing and able to spend the money? That to me seems itself to be enough of a limitation).
I really like how the system for getting a Tattoo works and Panopitcon conversation especially
But even if Lilac will turn up eventually for everyone/there is an access code for those she hasn't visited (which I think is very likely), it's the element of risk added to Fate expenditure that (while not entirely un-warned of, nor effecting me personally this year) I can only see serves to cause upset among FBG's customers. Perhaps I am missing something here, but isn't it better for something be more enjoyable than it is frustrating? Even if it is intended to be both?
If the Hallowmas system is getting an update (as I've seen hinted) because it's become too easy on players. I would personally say the Feast/Lilac system is a much greater priority precisely because it is not.
I'd be very glad to hear other people's views on this; because personally I find the intended aim of the current design of the Masqueing system a little confusing. But then again nothing is perfect
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 2/18/2016
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phryne
Posts: 1351
2/18/2016
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Well, I still haven't seen her. Hope I'll get lucky over the weekend since I'll be very busy next week.....
@Charlotte: I don't find the Masquing system overall confusing or difficult or anything like that. In fact, I quite like the way it works. But I definitely think that Lilac's card should be given the biggest possible Frequency - or that there should be another way to summon her!
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Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
2/18/2016
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I've seen Lilac's card exactly once, with my main only (and then I screwed up presenting gifts to her...) On the other hand, both my main and my alt have gotten the Encounter at the Feast card (and we're both hanging on to it...) It's just the RNG being, well, random again. Courage! It should not be much longer.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
Posts: 787
2/18/2016
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While I don't flip cards all day, I think it's quite remarkable that I haven't seen her yet on any of my three accounts!
Well, we've got more than a week left - and an access code, too, hopefully! But I somehow doubt that the card's frequency is "twice as common as standard" like the wiki claims.
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Happy Londoner
Posts: 74
2/17/2016
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Hello, people! Can you explain the following thing? Masking is exchanged for companions. Non-fated Masking cap is 30. I have 30. Should I keep exchanging gifts (to trade them for Masking one more time in the future) if I want more companions or is it possible to exchange it for a companion just once?
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genesis
Posts: 924
2/17/2016
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Day 3. Still no Lilac.
I'll be most unhappy if it turns out I spent all that Fate for nothing because I won't have the time to cash it in. *grumbles*
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Nanako
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2/17/2016
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I'm more or less done with her, but i have two friends that are desperate to get their tatoos and are just waiting. i feel sad for them ;-;
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th8827
Posts: 823
2/17/2016
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No Lilac or Encounter cards yet today... Getting plenty of VeryInfrequent cards, though.
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Arensen
Posts: 69
2/17/2016
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I still haven't found Lilac since the Feast started, which is very upsetting. I don't have the Fate investment that some other people have, but I really do want to get a tattoo this year (and maybe pick up the Costermonger while I'm at it), and I'll be ESPECIALLY disappointed considering that I missed out on Christmas this year.
Is there actually an access code yet, that I don't know? And if so, can anyone PM it to me?
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navchaa
Posts: 561
2/17/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
Note that if you have a Brass Embassy Sanctum the Quiet Deviless is available year-round for 40 Fate (and a Portfolio of Souls) rather than 70 Fate of gifts and lots of actions/items worth of Masquing
Ah, so the text that says she is not usually available doesn't mean that she's seasonal? That's very helpful indeed! I was intending to use the 40 Fate option all along, just that I thought the devs forgot to put away the Christmas goodies and was grinding to get it before she disappears till next Christmas. In any case, I'm just a few CP away from Intimate 10, so all I need to do is pick her up and then sell my soul posthaste. Thank you!
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Juno
Posts: 63
2/17/2016
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navchaa wrote:
Ha! There I was thinking she had rodentine teeth that grow and grow and need constant replacing?
Or... one could even say, *sharklike* dentata
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Dante Kinkade
Posts: 50
2/17/2016
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She does seem to enjoy dodging me as well, same with encounter at the feast. I have got both a few times, but also ended up using a little fate to draw a few more hands of cards. I just hope that changing to a remote address will help abit.
Also I don't think she is a big fan of getting well songs, I can't imagine why.
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Mr Sables
Posts: 597
2/21/2016
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I think she may be increasing in frequency . . .
I just had her appear four times in a row.
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Grenem
Posts: 2067
2/21/2016
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Robin Mask wrote:
I think she may be increasing in frequency . . .
I just had her appear four times in a row.
Or you got lucky/unlucky.
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Kivrin Neverwinter
Posts: 86
2/21/2016
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My alt August just drew Encounters for the first time, and can't do much with it! He's stuck with enough Fate gifts in his inventory to finally get him his Firebrand Reforged, and no way of converting those gifts- he's never once seen Lilac. (My main account's only seen her once the whole time). This is quite the exercise in frustration!
(I'm hoping if I complain, she'll appear to both of them immediately. That's how these things work, right?)
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Myrto
Posts: 209
2/21/2016
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I have decided to participate in the time honored ritual of complaining about the RNG on the forum, so as to make the desired card appear just after posting about it.
So, my main has completed all of the business of the Feast that they want to.
Edith has traded in some gifts for masquing, and has acquired the companions that she lacked from last year, and got her tattoo! So, she's finished.
Jack, however, has not seen Lilac one single time. He has many gifts waiting to trade, and he's hoping to get a tattoo! He's in a remote lodging, flipping cards several times a day in the forgotten quarter.
So, come on, Lilac!
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Gonen
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2/22/2016
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Problem solved. Big brother always watching.
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Pyrodinium
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2/22/2016
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It seems that Encounters & the Lady in Lilac are storylets now.
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Grenem
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2/18/2016
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Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:
While I don't flip cards all day, I think it's quite remarkable that I haven't seen her yet on any of my three accounts!
Well, we've got more than a week left - and an access code, too, hopefully! But I somehow doubt that the card's frequency is "twice as common as standard" like the wiki claims.
You're right that it's odd, but odd occurence can happen without that being all that unusual. I'd bet you've missed at least two other standard cards on all three accounts, too. Think rarity of 4-card lodging's cards, not ubiqueitous.
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Myrto
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2/22/2016
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*whew*
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
2/22/2016
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This seems like a nice compromise. Cards during the Feast, for fun and atmosphere. Then storylets afterwards, for those who were colossally unlucky or with sub optimal decks. Lilac being easier to find after the Feast also makes sense. During the height of the Feast she's rushing around, meeting lots of different people. As the Feast winds down she's essentially rapping things up.
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