Rupho Schartenhauer
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2/5/2016
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LoN has been discussed on the forum many times, but AFAIK there has never been an actual poll about it. Here we go! 
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Kukapetal
Posts: 1449
2/6/2016
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Psyche Labyrinth wrote:
Well at least now I know who to put on my blacklist. X( Don't make an enemy out of the people who WILL end up winning.
edited by Psyche Labyrinth on 2/6/2016
Oh yeah??? Well I'm not inviting you to my bridge club's Pancake Social this Sunday, so there!
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Ava Pepper
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2/6/2016
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As impatient as I get with the selfish motives of every character in this game, turning off all the lights everywhere would make it impossible to read about them!
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metasynthie
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2/6/2016
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I just want to point out that "not making a choice" is in fact the choice that the Judgments are relying to maintain their stranglehold on reality with concepts like "laws" and "light" and "life" and "death" and "everything shouldn't have sex with everything else." And the only reason you think light is better than endless darkness is because understandably but sadly, you're simply used to it! That and DEMNED JUDGMENT PROPYGANDA everywhere. "But I like the light, mommy, it lets us see things!" Poor little tykes don't even KNOW any other way.
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dov
Posts: 2580
2/6/2016
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Or, you know, the species will mostly all die horribly, and the survivors left to a hellish existence.
I see no benefit to anyone via the LoN without an actual plan to replace the current order that we can evaluate. And such a plan, by definition, can be seen as another form of tyranny, so what's the point and what's the difference?
There are either some rules, or there is total anarchy.
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Sara Hysaro
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2/5/2016
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Night whispers; what does it say? There's just so much we don't know, and we're charging right into it full speed without knowing the full ramifications and consequences for the entire Universe. There's so much more than us out there, and yet a small group of people are making a decision that will affect literally every single thing in existence? How is that at all a good thing?
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
2/5/2016
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Liberation of Night
The Masters are bats and their Echoes are lies
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
The Empress is Jenny's chambermaid!
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
The Bishop's a snuffer, the vicar's a Jack
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
The Duchess whores herself out for the Vake
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
The Admirals send you to slave for the Dawn
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
The Sun wants to kill you for breaking the Law
When you see a monster, snuff the lamp
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Hobnail
Posts: 179
2/5/2016
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
Who does it benefit?
THE STRONG!
Sara Hysaro wrote:
Who will suffer in the aftermath?
THE WEAK!
AS ABOVE, SO BELOW! AS WITHIN, SO WITHOUT!
edited by Hobnail on 2/5/2016
edited by Hobnail on 2/5/2016
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timelessparadox
Posts: 24
2/8/2016
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One need only visit the Iron republic to see the horror of the night, menaces are created and destroyed on a whim, yet the republic is a refuge for the menaced and a curse for the fortunate. The republic is only good as a long as it is an option and not a coercion; liberating the night needlessly and wantonly destroys its redeeming factor by forcing it upon the world.
I seek a path beyond light, beyond dark what could possibly wait for me there,yet i seek it insatiably.
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Sara Hysaro
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2/5/2016
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I'm not convinced the Night will be better, though. Who does it benefit? Who will suffer in the aftermath? Absolute power of a minority is not good, absolutely not, but anarchy isn't a good thing either.
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suinicide
Posts: 2409
2/6/2016
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Aren't fingerkings only possessing people so they can be in the real world? If the judgements are gone and can't stop them from being real, I think they'd just become real instead of bothering to possess people.
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The Midnight Road
Posts: 47
2/5/2016
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Every system needs it's...flex. Wiggle room. Loopholes. While the current system is perhaps not to everyone's liking, the sudden and absolute annihilation of it will serve no good. Sustaining such a state will do no greater good either, despite idealist claims to the contrary. We are in the Neath. If you can not find the freedom for it down here, one must question what, precisely, it is you are trying to -do.-
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Owen Wulf
Posts: 715
2/6/2016
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At least you can close your eyes to escape the light. This Liberation would be an inescapable horror.
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
2/5/2016
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Three vs two. Liberation has it! Close the poll, turn off the lights.
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Spacemarine9
Posts: 2234
2/5/2016
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Sara Hysaro wrote:
There's so much more than us out there, and yet a small group of people are making a decision that will affect literally every single thing in existence? How is that at all a good thing?
yeah, i agree, the judgements suck
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/6/2016
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metasynthie wrote:
I just want to point out that "not making a choice" is in fact the choice that the Judgments are relying to maintain their stranglehold on reality with concepts like "laws" and "light" and "life" and "death" and "everything shouldn't have sex with everything else." And the only reason you think light is better than endless darkness is because understandably but sadly, you're simply used to it! That and DEMNED JUDGMENT PROPYGANDA everywhere. "But I like the light, mommy, it lets us see things!" Poor little tykes don't even KNOW any other way.
STOP! STOP! STOP!
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You already had me at "everything shouldn't have sex with everything else." No need to further this rhetoric, let's douse some stars!
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Talkes
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2/6/2016
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metasynthie wrote:
I just want to point out that "not making a choice" is in fact the choice that the Judgments are relying to maintain their stranglehold on reality
I sincerely do not care about LoN, as there are other, much less radical ways to deviate from the Chain, settling in Parabola being my current favourite. Considering constant power struggle inside Calendar Council and the wretched nature of man itself, I highly doubt these people can actually think in categories that do not have "Law", "Rule" or "I am the Boss" written all over them.
metasynthie wrote:
"everything shouldn't have sex with everything else" If that's your idea of LoN...
WILL BUY GANT INK,
50 echoes for a bucket!
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Emain Ablach
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2/6/2016
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I need more information. Maybe the Liberation is a good thing, maybe it'll just destroy everything and cause our end. Without knowing what "can" happen if it's unleashed, I cannot make a choice.
If I was the only one concerned, I would probably give it a shot. But here we're talking about an event affecting the entirety of the universe (well, except for Parabola, maybe...).
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Psyche Labyrinth
Posts: 159
2/6/2016
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metasynthie wrote:
the only reason you think light is better than endless darkness is because understandably but sadly, you're simply used to it! That and DEMNED JUDGMENT PROPYGANDA everywhere. "But I like the light, mommy, it lets us see things!" Poor little tykes don't even KNOW any other way.
Yes! The species will adapt and grow STRONGER! Why do you anti-LONs want to keep us confined to lives of weakness?
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Maximilian Datterpie
Posts: 9
2/6/2016
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May I have a moment of your time to talk about our savior, the Dawn Machine?
The Chain will be broken. The Judgements snuffed out. The Dawn and all its followers will be as Gods in the new order created.
But, yeah, honestly, I like the Liberation of the Night, but still think there must be someone who holds the reins. The Dawn Machine is definitely not a good choice. It's still better than the Judgements.
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Emain Ablach
Posts: 348
2/6/2016
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Maximilian Datterpie wrote:
May I have a moment of your time to talk about our savior, the Dawn Machine?
I laughed hard. x)
metasynthie wrote:
I just want to point out that "not making a choice" is in fact the choice that the Judgments are relying to maintain their stranglehold on reality
No laws ? So, nothing to keep possessive snakes to possessively possess people, or just take the vacant place as new rulers. I'm not sure it is better than stars-rulers.
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Psyche Labyrinth
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2/6/2016
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Hellish? Paradisaical, you mean. Dark is beautiful, light hurts us all.
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Psyche Labyrinth
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2/6/2016
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Kukapetal wrote:
It's irresponsible to the point of being monstrous. Those planning it ought to be slaughtered on sight.
Well at least now I know who to put on my blacklist. X( Don't make an enemy out of the people who WILL end up winning.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
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2/6/2016
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Talkes wrote:
I sincerely do not care about LoN, as there are other, much less radical ways to deviate from the Chain, settling in Parabola being my current favourite. Considering constant power struggle inside Calendar Council and the wretched nature of man itself, I highly doubt these people can actually think in categories that do not have "Law", "Rule" or "I am the Boss" written all over them.
... and you think the Fingerkings aren't bossy at all and will just welcome you as an equal and leave you in peace?
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Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it.
Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely.
Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated.
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Talkes
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2/6/2016
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Rupho Schartenhauer wrote:
... and you think the Fingerkings aren't bossy at all and will just welcome you as an equal and leave you in peace?
There are also March-Barons, who are known to be quite lax when properly fed. And a presence of two contesting parties always makes some room for a man in the middle to profit.
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phryne
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2/6/2016
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Talkes wrote:
(...) as there are other, much less radical ways to deviate from the Chain, settling in Parabola being my current favourite (...)
Exactly my plan, too!
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TheThirdPolice
Posts: 609
2/6/2016
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Owen Wulf wrote:
At least you can close your eyes to escape the light.
Tell that to the Dancing Duchess.
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Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/6/2016
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I think what appeals about LoTN is the promise of social mobility. Simply put, a sentient creature ought not to be restricted simply on how it was born.
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The Law doesn't allow relationships between the lower and higher chains aside from eating (godeaters and Monster Hunters) and oppression of feelings and freedoms (Bazaar and Masters).
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