ganjalf91
Posts: 87
2/1/2016
|
Like, if you have to think of an ending, where he (or someone) reveals to you his name...
Will it be like "ah btw, im charles, goodbye"?
What do you think the discovery will bring or imply?
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Ganjalf91
|
|
|
+3
link
|
Johnny Felix
Posts: 180
2/1/2016
|
There was that answer some time ago in another fallen city, erm, town:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UmhjAds6gvw/Vq-gY1y2RMI/AAAAAAAAATw/t3vLIVP-lPo/w190-h229-no/Eaten.jpg
--
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Johnny%20Felix
|
|
|
+17
link
|
CALLNXW
Posts: 116
2/3/2016
|
Cecil wrote:
We know these things for facts:
It's in the Correspondence
The Lorn Flukes recognise it
[spoiler]The Lorn Flukes are from before the Second City[/spoiler]
Which tells us that the Name that is saught is pre-eatening
Since this is Fallen London and this is the correspondence we're talking about, the sigil will likely mean something complex and simple at the same time
Now, we don't know the conventions in which naming takes place in space bat society, because this is what Mr Candles' name will follow, possible naming times might be:
Creation
Development
Achievement
Considering that Creation would give Mr Candles a random name (unless timey-wimey), and that would make Seeking anticlimatic, that's unlikely.
Which narrows down Mr Candles' sigil to:
a concept that conveys who they are as a space bat
So the best serious bet for finding out their name would be to analyze pre-eatening Candles personality/acts.
Which makes something like
"the generosity of a lover" or "forgiveness for those who don't deserve it" possibilities.
edited by Cecil on 2/3/2016
Actually it's a correspondence for "a bat whose name is Jeff"
--
https://www.fallenlondon.com/Profile/Call%20Now
|
|
|
+10
link
|
Passionario
Posts: 777
2/1/2016
|
I don't think it's a name in the commonly understood sense. It's more like radiation sickness or heroin addiction. You don't learn it, you just suffer it.
--
Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending
Passion: Profile, Appearance
|
|
|
+9
link
|
an emptiness
Posts: 1
2/1/2016
|
|
|
|
+9
link
|
Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/3/2016
|
My theory is that the Name is yours. All the sacrifice you make forcefully cuts a part of you and grafts it to Eaten (even conceptual ones). By completing the ritual you finally pour enough stats to appreciable Batty levels (I think their stats exceeds the 200 cap) and make Eaten finally rest in peace. Candles will be reborn, but it isn't IT but rather it is you. The Masters will recognize this and welcome you among their ranks and help you claim your Chiropteran waifu er... I mean achieve a certain group of Destinies.
--
My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium
(A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured
(an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage)
* All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
|
|
|
+7
link
|
Optimatum
Posts: 3666
2/3/2016
|
Hey, Mr. E already has 999 Watchful. Even with the most min-maxing and Notable overclocking I doubt any of us will achieve that.
--
Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
 Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
|
|
|
+6
link
|
Mr Sables
Posts: 597
2/1/2016
|
Is it weird I just assumed his name was 'Mr Eaten' or 'Mr Candles' . . . like, I thought of it as an open secret, where the goal was just to find someone to admit it or some record of it being written down, like a quest for 'proof'.
I imagine the masters have real names, but - if ever revealed - it'd probably be Cthulu-Style, in that we'd never be able to say it, pronounce it, or truly understand it, and we'd debate it for decades to come 
|
|
|
+6
link
|
Ava Pepper
Posts: 24
2/6/2016
|
[spoiler]
I figured his name was Akhenaten, which is an anagram for "Eaten Ankh" or "eaten soul"
[/spoiler]
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/avapepper
|
|
|
+6
link
|
Kittenpox
Posts: 869
2/3/2016
|
Pyrodinium wrote:
-snip-
Given that my Destiny reads: "You will change beyond all understanding, but something of you will remain." ?
It's entirely possible you're correct - at least as far as my character is concerned.
--
Kittenpox
Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^
Metaphysical Caprice: 11.
-
Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-)
NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
|
|
|
+5
link
|
"Many" Chin
Posts: 383
2/5/2016
|
Pyrodinium wrote:
...
[spoiler]
Mrs. Plenty?
[/spoiler]
edited by Pyrodinium on 2/3/2016
let me guess, she ate mister eaten?
--
"My little China girl/You shouldn't mess with me/I'll ruin everything you are/I'll give you television/I'll give you eyes of blue/I'll give you man who wants to rule the world"
- The Goblin King.
|
|
|
+5
link
|
th8827
Posts: 823
7/12/2016
|
Barselaar wrote:
The Master wrote:
Barselaar wrote:
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
How do you know that it's not worth it? The information could sell well...
It could, correct... But rest assured, any attempts to learn it will not end well.
Which means that, if you manage to learn it, you can sell it repeatedly, since it will end badly for anyone buying it.
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
|
|
|
+4
link
|
Dungerson
Posts: 44
7/13/2016
|
Here's what we know about Mr. Eaten:
- He's waiting for a reckoning that shall not be postponed indefinitely. i.e., he's waiting for his time.
- He's lurking, dead and drowned. You can't see him, not without making a very bad decision and dooming yourself.
- Finding his name gives your character an ending, albeit a bad one. Perhaps one can argue that he's the endpoint of the FL franchise.
- His domain is candles, shinin' in the dark.
Therefore:
[spoiler]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgUB3lF9IQA[/spoiler]
(I'm sorry)
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/Dungerson
|
|
|
+4
link
|
Saklad
Posts: 528
7/13/2016
|
You may as well ask “Doctor who?”. The literal name isn’t the point.
--
Saklad5, a man of many talents
|
|
|
+4
link
|
The Angry Pirate
Posts: 30
7/13/2016
|
Optimatum wrote:
Hey, Mr. E already has 999 Watchful. Even with the most min-maxing and Notable overclocking I doubt any of us will achieve that.
You would have thought with 999 watchful Mr Eaten would have seen this whole thing coming. After all if 200+ watchful is enough for an impossible theorem 999 watchful should have been enough for Eaten to realize that all his space-bat-friends hated him.
edited by The Angry Pirate on 7/13/2016
|
|
|
+4
link
|
suinicide
Posts: 2409
7/13/2016
|
Mr. Veils probably has 1000 shadowy.
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime
A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence.
RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
|
|
|
+3
link
|
Erika
Posts: 528
2/3/2016
|
We know these things for facts:
It's in the Correspondence
The Lorn Flukes recognise it
[spoiler]The Lorn Flukes are from before the Second City[/spoiler]
Which tells us that the Name that is saught is pre-eatening
Since this is Fallen London and this is the correspondence we're talking about, the sigil will likely mean something complex and simple at the same time
Now, we don't know the conventions in which naming takes place in space bat society, because this is what Mr Candles' name will follow, possible naming times might be:
Creation
Development
Achievement
Considering that Creation would give Mr Candles a random name (unless timey-wimey), and that would make Seeking anticlimatic, that's unlikely.
Which narrows down Mr Candles' sigil to:
a concept that conveys who they are as a space bat
So the best serious bet for finding out their name would be to analyze pre-eatening Candles personality/acts.
Which makes something like
"the generosity of a lover" or "forgiveness for those who don't deserve it" possibilities.
edited by Cecil on 2/3/2016
--
 Where the sun is hot, the moon is beautiful, and mysterious lights pass overhead while we all pretend to sleep.
Going on a fate expedition? I'm collecting data! Help me?
"Bottles of Oblivion" drunk in the name of content: 57
Catboxes (send more!) opened in the name of science: 1093
Fancy a friend?
|
|
|
+3
link
|
Aster Chroniztikcorp
Posts: 30
7/12/2016
|
Barselaar wrote:
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
obviously yelling his name is the only way to wake him up
and then we can burn some handkerchiefs
edited by Dom Scorp on 7/12/2016
--
Happy to accept anything, realy.
http://www.fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Aster%20Chroniztik
|
|
|
+3
link
|
[1].png)
Emain Ablach
Posts: 348
2/1/2016
|
Honestly, I expect the writer to surprise us all about that, or to say something like "He tells you his Name. Now you know. You know the Name. You are the Name." without explaining in details. And tout would suit my taste.
But if I have to guess what the name is like, I'd say probably some Correspondence-ish name with a conceptual meaning which can be understood in many ways. Something along the line of "the light at the edge of sleep", maybe ?
--
Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him.
https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
|
|
|
+3
link
|
Optimatum
Posts: 3666
2/2/2016
|
"an emptiness" edited away forum posts in the beginning of public Seeking and now there's a user of the same name created today? Spooooky.
--
Optimatum, a ruthless and merciful gentleman. No plant battles, Affluent Photographer requests, or healing offers; all other social actions welcome.
Want a sip of Cider? Just say hi!
PM me for information enigmatic or Fated. Though the forum please, not FL itself.
|
|
|
+2
link
|
Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/3/2016
|
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Samara
[spoiler]
Mrs. Plenty?
[/spoiler]
edited by Pyrodinium on 2/3/2016
--
My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium
(A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured
(an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage)
* All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
|
|
|
+2
link
|
A Dimness
Posts: 613
7/12/2016
|
Dom Scorp wrote:
Barselaar wrote:
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
obviously yelling his name is the only way to wake him up
and then we can burn some handkerchiefs
edited by Dom Scorp on 7/12/2016
I think more than just handkerchiefs would burn.
--
A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
|
|
|
+2
link
|
th8827
Posts: 823
7/12/2016
|
His name is Melvin.
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
|
|
|
+2
link
|
A Dimness
Posts: 613
7/12/2016
|
Even though it's in correspondence, there's still the outlying possibility of your character suffering his way through seeking to finally reach the name and... it's just a name, a completely mundane name without anything special to it.
Of course, this doesn't have to be an anticlimax. Maybe the revelation that what your character sought doesn't exist, or only exists in a form this unsatisfying, will break your character, seeing has he's suffered through the entirety of seeking just to learn that the name was something not particularly interesting.
It'd be an interesting take on the entire thing, anyways.
edited by Infinity Simulacrum on 7/12/2016
--
A truth so strange it can only be lied into existence
|
|
|
+2
link
|
tsukinofaerii
Posts: 56
7/12/2016
|
I suspect the Name isn't capable of being comprehended by the human mind, lowly as we are. That is possibly why finishing the quest is a game over; you've destroyed yourself learning the unlearnable. It's almost definitely written in Correspondence sigils. If your hair catches fire from studying the Correspondence, what can anyone imagine would happen to you (or your final candle) upon arriving North and learning that name?
[spoiler]In my (inexpert) opinion, Seeking the Name has less to do with the name itself than with Mr. Eaten's existence. He is, or was, associated with the Second City, which we've fairly well accepted was likely Amarna. Amarna, built and ruled by Akhenaten, a Pharaoh who is unique in that an overwhelming effort was put into wiping any mention him and his city from history. By my understanding of ancient Egyptian mythos, that would have completely destroyed him on every level, down to his soul. People whose names are forgotten and undocumented cease to exist. Much in the same way that our Mr. Eaten has..
Except he clearly hasn't been entirely forgotten, since he still exists to haunt us. A reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely, after all.[/spoiler]
Belatedly realized that a spoiler tag may be in order.
edited by tsukinofaerii on 7/12/2016
--
A lady who is infrequently present, but always hungry.
Currently: Circling the b----y well
Find me.
|
|
|
+2
link
|
al2o3cr
Posts: 66
7/13/2016
|
There's some content in the wiki from Seeking that demonstrates that it's a little of both.
[spoiler]
On the one hand, there's an explicit reference to it being "Mr. Candles", mentioned on the "Give up your Enigma" text on the Queen of Inks card, and some old content from a Mr. (Eaten) Sacks visit a few years back.
On the other hand, there's no shortage of hints in Seeking that it's a seven-letter word (SEVEN IS THE NUMBER) in the Correspondence. Problematic, since normal materials generally (always?) burst into flame after at best *six* symbols have been inscribed. Examples include the "In your dreams, you hear a voice echoing hollowly each night" card that starts the Seeking plot.
[/spoiler]
IMO, the act of utterly effacing the name of something is the critical act here. There's historical precedent for the belief that erasing the name of something effectively destroys it; chiseling the cartouches of unpopular Pharaohs off monuments was thought to be equivalent to attacking them in the afterlife - and the "In your dreams, you hear a voice echoing hollowly each night" card result has you finding a place where the Name has been chiseled off...
|
|
|
+1
link
|
maricolous
Posts: 56
7/13/2016
|
I... I can't believe I was actually surprised by that...
You think maybe one day I would learn...
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Maricolousa
(Finished)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Kraine
Mystic on the way to becoming a Glassworker, on occasional hiatus.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Catherine Raymond
Posts: 2518
7/13/2016
|
For what it's worth: this site claims that the ancient Egyptians used the first candles. http://candles.org/history/
--
Cathy Raymond
http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355
Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Kittenpox
Posts: 869
7/13/2016
|
Spoiler warning, but Mr Eaten's actual name is:
[spoiler] , due to a contractual dispute with Warner Bros.
Think about it - have you ever seen Mr Eaten and Prince in a room at the same time? :-p[/spoiler]
edited by Kittenpox on 7/13/2016
--
Kittenpox
Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^
Metaphysical Caprice: 11.
-
Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-)
NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Barse
Posts: 706
7/12/2016
|
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
--
 The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Pyrodinium
Posts: 639
2/6/2016
|
"Many" Chin wrote:
Pyrodinium wrote:
...
[spoiler]
Mrs. Plenty?
[/spoiler]
edited by Pyrodinium on 2/3/2016
let me guess, she ate mister eaten?
Batty rubbery lumps YUM!
--
My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium
(A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter)
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured
(an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage)
* All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Ben
Posts: 657
2/6/2016
|
Cecil wrote:
We know these things for facts:
Since this is Fallen London and this is the correspondence we're talking about, the sigil will likely mean something complex and simple at the same time
A quote from SK
[Spoiler]While the common tongue contained many fascinating terms and phrases, the spiked letters of High Speech carried the heart of Roland's culture. With the exception of the word char (which always means “death”), each word in the Tongue had multiple meanings. These meanings were so complex and nuanced that they were (and are) difficult to define precisely.[/spoiler]
This is how I always think of the corespondance. Complex. Words with many meanings.
Only, I picture eaten's name, if not a run that was removed from existance, reality warped to remove it from ever being comprehended again...
... I picture it to be the one SIMPLE word in the entire language.
.... I picture it to be horrible.
--
The wind has no destination.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
|
|
|
+1
link
|
The Master
Posts: 804
7/12/2016
|
Barselaar wrote:
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
How do you know that it's not worth it? The information could sell well...
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Lolwolfking
A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Barse
Posts: 706
7/12/2016
|
The Master wrote:
Barselaar wrote:
Why would you want to know his name? It's not worth it. Turn back now...
How do you know that it's not worth it? The information could sell well...
It could, correct... But rest assured, any attempts to learn it will not end well.
--
The Scorched Sailor, up for most social actions and RP. Not as scary as he looks.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Grenem
Posts: 2067
2/1/2016
|
Little The wrote:
I thought the Sacksmas content confirmed it was indeed Mr Candles? The masters change names all the time, though, so maybe that's not its "true" name.
I believe the London name would be mr. candles, but every master was named in their own language, and Candles is a horribly simplified version of the true name, i expect, like the Khan of dreams before it (which, i believe, is also a consumed name).
--
Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza
I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters.
On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning.
Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
|
|
|
+1
link
|
th8827
Posts: 823
2/1/2016
|
Well, many of us already know what his name in the previous cities was. However, none of us know what any of the Masters' true names actually are. I mean, they had different names for different cities, like the Kahn of Dreams in the fourth city. And, before they began working for the Bazaar, they were probably not named things like Mr. Fires and Mr. Wines.
For all we know they are really named things like Frank and Jeff. Or Vake.
EDIT: Several people already said this...
edited by th8827 on 2/1/2016
--
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/th8827
Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
An Individual
Posts: 589
2/2/2016
|
There was a really good theory on the I'm a candle Tumblr a little while ago based on the revelation from Ambition: Nemesis that Masters have a correspondence symbol as a name. Of course, the truth is that if anyone happened to guess the name here it would certainly cease to ultimately be the name. I'm expecting the unexpected. But maybe that means it will be something that I actually expect! Gah! It's a loop!
--
An Individual's Profile
The RNG giveth and the RNG taketh away.
Goat Farming or Cider Brewing? This browser extension may help.
Want a Cider sip? Please refer to this guide before requesting.
Scholaring the Correspondence? A Brief Guide to Courier's Footprint.
Contemplating Oblivion? First Steps on the Seeking Road.
Gone NORTH? Opened the gate? Throw your character in a well.
|
|
|
+1
link
|
Ben
Posts: 657
2/3/2016
|
Part of the difficulty of finding out what corespondance symbol it is...
... the very word was scrubbed from reality by the ritual of the death.
--
The wind has no destination.
http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/IcountFrom0
|
|
|
+1
link
|
dov
Posts: 2580
2/1/2016
|
Taking into account various seasonal content (plus some of the destinies):
[spoiler]It seems that one of the things to which this is leading is for the player character to get Mr Eaten's name tattooed on their arm, and then to sail to zea, cut of that arm as a sacrifice thus triggering some sort of... apocalyptic event about which I was never quite clear.[/spoiler]
--
 Want a sip of Hesperidean Cider? Send me a request in-game. Here's an_ocelot's guide how.
(Most social actions are welcome. Please no requests to Loiter Suspiciously and no investigations of the Affluent Photographer)
|
|
|
+1
link
|