The Master
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1/28/2016
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Would you go back? There would be no usual penalties, it will be as if you never went to the Neath in a first place.
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A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Diptych
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1/28/2016
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Perhaps... but there's still so much left to learn down here!
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Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Sara Hysaro
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1/28/2016
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My main character did plan on returning to the surface once their goal was finished in the Neath. Their aspirations are a little higher now, however.
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Pyrodinium
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1/28/2016
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I don't know. Even if Pyro is cleansed of his Neathy-ness I'm pretty sure he'll quickly go back to do doing something illegal in both the eyes of the Surface Society and that of the sun: Hunting and eating unearthly and impossible things.
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Steven66Steven
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1/28/2016
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Hah, not a chance! Far too many mysteries to be solved, and who would want to go back to a place where death means more than a leisurely game of chess with an old friend?
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
1/29/2016
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Excellent question 
Very sorry, a few clarifications if I can ask?
Are you asking would someone go back to whatever their old surface life might have been permanently? Or do you just mean for a holiday?
Would they still remember the Neath, if it was as if they never came here? Or do you mean no penalties in terms only of dying up there?
Are you counting the High Wilderness as the surface? (But then I suppose I wouldn't want things to be as if I never came to the Neath... humm... tricky...)
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edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/29/2016
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Catherine Raymond
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1/29/2016
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My main character came here for revenge, pure and simple. She could live permanently down here, but would prefer to see the sun again and live, if that's still possible.
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Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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th8827
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1/29/2016
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I would stay in the Neath, but travel out of London. Maybe live in the Elder Continent, at Port Carnelian.
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The Master
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1/29/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Excellent question
Very sorry, a few clarifications if I can ask?
Are you asking would someone go back to whatever their old surface life might have been permanently? Or do you just mean for a holiday?
Would they still remember the Neath, if it was as if they never came here? Or do you mean no penalties in terms only of dying up there?
Are you counting the High Wilderness as the surface? (But then I suppose I wouldn't want things to be as if I never came to the Neath... humm... tricky...)
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You would still remember! And by no penalty I mean that the sun won't try to kill you.
Sorry, but I never heard of the High wilderness in FL 
*roleplaying mode off*
I was thinking of this question more realisticly, In the game, the lack of sun makes little difference for you, but imagine never seeing the sun again in real life, let's not forget the dangers of the Neath, sure, death "usually" isn't permanent, but the whole place is full of things that want to kill you, steal from you, etc. Im not saying it's horrible down here, the secrets! Adventure! Uhh, I think this is all I have to say for now.
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A very ruthless and daring doctor of the neath.
No more gift exchanges, im getting too many and I can barely hold these.
He has knowledge of a certain enigma, ask, you will get a clue.
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Charlotte_de_Witte
Posts: 360
1/29/2016
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Ah thank-you!
In that case I'm definitely staying here. I'm happy to count myself as one of the budding dangers of the Neath. Rickets be d--ned!
The Master wrote:
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You would still remember! And by no penalty I mean that the sun won't try to kill you.
Sorry, but I never heard of the High wilderness in FL
*roleplaying mode off*
I was thinking of this question more realisticly, In the game, the lack of sun makes little difference for you, but imagine never seeing the sun again in real life, let's not forget the dangers of the Neath, sure, death "usually" isn't permanent, but the whole place is full of things that want to kill you, steal from you, etc. Im not saying it's horrible down here, the secrets! Adventure! Uhh, I think this is all I have to say for now.
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Tyrone
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1/29/2016
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It's pretty damn hard to die in the Neath, assuming you don't go to Zea.
Then again, there are more horrible fates than death in the Neath.
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Passionario
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1/29/2016
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I descended with a purpose, one that has not been fulfilled.
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wraith
Posts: 136
1/29/2016
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i came to the neath for knowledge, a knowledge that has changed me, a knowledge so vast and that machine-thing in the south... you have to understand that such knowledge can make you aware of something you don't want... what? o no, you live in the surface, it would drive you insane just one thing, at the night, when you look at the stars, do you think they're beautiful? sooner or later you will not think so
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Grenem
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1/29/2016
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The Master wrote:
Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
Excellent question
Very sorry, a few clarifications if I can ask?
Are you asking would someone go back to whatever their old surface life might have been permanently? Or do you just mean for a holiday?
Would they still remember the Neath, if it was as if they never came here? Or do you mean no penalties in terms only of dying up there?
Are you counting the High Wilderness as the surface? (But then I suppose I wouldn't want things to be as if I never came to the Neath... humm... tricky...)
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You would still remember! And by no penalty I mean that the sun won't try to kill you.
Sorry, but I never heard of the High wilderness in FL
*roleplaying mode off*
I was thinking of this question more realisticly, In the game, the lack of sun makes little difference for you, but imagine never seeing the sun again in real life, let's not forget the dangers of the Neath, sure, death "usually" isn't permanent, but the whole place is full of things that want to kill you, steal from you, etc. Im not saying it's horrible down here, the secrets! Adventure! Uhh, I think this is all I have to say for now.
's safer than the surface. Yes, everything wants to kill you, but the reason people treat death as a minor thing is because it is minor, usually. Being dead is like having a bit of fever nowadays, in the 21st century. Permadeath is more common on the surface, unless you're truly foolish, such as seeking the name, or being a zailor on the more dangerous paths.
Unless I have aquired true immortality, i'm not going to the surface.
Besides, who amoung us knows the truth of the stars and still would return? sure, the food is inferior, but in exchange you escape from the chain, which is worth far more to me.
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GamerGallade
Posts: 92
1/29/2016
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I have gathered too many neath puns to be able to go back to the surface. Then what would I do with them?
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I just noticed if you try to record "why is it so easy to get lost in Fallen London?" The title changes to "What are they trying to hide?"
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Sara Hysaro
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1/29/2016
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Grenem wrote:
Besides, who amoung us knows the truth of the stars and still would return? sure, the food is inferior, but in exchange you escape from the chain, which is worth far more to me.
Is there specific information in Sunless Sea about souls that would make me care about my own's fate post mortem? Death in the Neath isn't any different for the soulless or the stained, so given what I know it doesn't seem any worse than what happens to my body after I shed the mortal coil. If my soul isn't me, the very same me who is in the afterlife for however long that lasts, then why would it matter?
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1/30/2016
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I'm going to just do truthseeker for this question, or I'd be too long on the topic.
Grenem wrote:
Besides, who amoung us knows the truth of the stars and still would return? sure, the food is inferior, but in exchange you escape from the chain, which is worth far more to me.
Funny you should ask that....let's begin.
Pretty much, his "hook" down here was Nemesis. The problem is with the "those who know too much" character is once you truly see what is going on there, it often isn't "pleasant." Until they make "H.P. Lovecraft, a Comedy in Five Acts," I doubt knowing, "things that were not meant to be known by others" is a pleasant theme.
Add that to the "Watchful" and "Great Game" path he took, he has seen just a few more Nightmare Horrors than the "typical" (that's a stretch to use that word down here of course) resident.
Still, he has a self-obligation (even against hopeless or overwhelming odds) to prevent what happens to the people of city number five when city number six...drops in. Whether that's the current Sisyphus-like goal of preventing any act that could trigger the Sixth City as he exists in the Future (he has the Backstage Fate-Locked Destiny involving "A Jewelled Future - Location: The Approach to the Mountain -> A Blaze of Distant Light -> September 21st, 1911.…Silence in the tent" since October 2014/1893 and he has been through "Lost in Reflections,") or to save as many citizens as possible instead, he feels he must protect them from the truth they are so oblivious of. But it's not exactly easy to speak of:
[spoiler]Oh, a Master killed his love to bring him down here to make Stories. Why?
The Sun seeing the Bazaar that doesn't care too much about the Sun really, but the Bazaar is head over heels with the Sun. The Sun is seeing another star on the side which the Sun sent off a love-letter and they said "no" and the Bazaar is trying to hide that, thinking the Sun will die reading that so the Bazaar doesn't deliver this Message as is it's Chain-duty to and hides out in the 'Neath (after Contract-Bound Hiring the Masters) trying to find Love Stories that only work from humans when not directly forced by others higher on the Chain that will stop this (but killing indirectly with Humans is apparently Nemesis-acceptable, just not second hand like Jack-of Smiles Polythreme-created weapons to kill Humans to make people cuddle up and have Romances.)
And (secondly) doing all this can also support the Sun/Bazaar forbidden romance by the Correspondent/Star-Run-Great-Chain-of-Being and the Bazaar has seven cities to do this before the Time and Space Dragon Police find them; and the Sun and Bazaar have a Mountain of Light kid together which has a forced Mount Nomad kid of her own with the Thief-of-Faces. Oh, and the second city owner trapped the Bazaar to a "dead, at least to stories" city for a very long time and a Master was scapegoated for this (it's unclear if it was that Master's fault for the Second City or not) Killed/devoured by Mezzo-human priests over it to get the Third City whose name was Mr. Candles/is Mr. Eaten and the Duchess is really that Immortal with her living-poison-sack-asp-bitten husband.[/spoiler]
to those who don't know what's going on, and (except for a few,) everybody has fragments of one thing or another at best. Those who know what's going on (especially the city sellers) stay quiet and live their long lives out of the way unable or unwilling (or both) to do anything to stop this, going elsewhere if a new city falls.
So he sees betrayal everywhere he goes for other people's self-interest. He is as much trapped as the rest, but tries to do anything to help. He educates when he can subtly, but comes across as a "doom and gloom end is Nigh" crackpot. And (of course, why have a happy ending to this presently,) he does horrible terrible things in "the Ends justify the Means" concept of saving so many, but causing pain/death to too many even if few in hiding the big "Secret" to stop an accelerated city fall should this truth get out to too many too soon.
He has become the thing he loathes and has no idea what he can do. If he dies, another of the very few who knowingly fight for his race disappear. And when he stays, he hates himself for all the people who are ruined/memory-wiped/permanently killed in the name (not Name or at least not yet having signed up only in 2014,) of saving so many millions more of them. And if he supports the Liberation of Night, he believes all light Extinguished from the Stars will kill many lives not protected by the energies in the Neath (as Axile's Rubbery Men proves conclusively there are other worlds out there besides the Masters.)
And (because of the horrible Author that is I, muhuahahahahaha,) whenever he tried to self-forget this or Irrigo from other sources/Midnighters, it doesn't seem possible to remove these memories.
So should he one day succeed or fail, he will return to the Surface to live out whatever remaining life he has. If his specific "Backstage Destiny" teaches anything, he probably will rally a bunch of people on the Surface (immortality, a momentary reprieve before True Death's Judgment light or the Freeze of no light, I cannot say) to follow him to fight for the final Truth of this turnout, whatever that may be.
But it's always been his goal to return to the Surface, or so it seems. But who knows, maybe he'll just be another Insane-with-power Emperor of the 'Neath instead one day. I'm sure that will end as well as expected also.
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Kukapetal
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1/30/2016
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Nah...While my character has come to accept that there is nothing for him down here, he also knows there is nothing for him on the surface either, and since that's the case, why not take the lazy option and just stay put? Just the thought of rounding up all those animals and terrible people he lives with and dragging them all, plus a houseful of junk, to the surface makes him feel tired :P
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Blaine Davidson
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1/31/2016
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If there were things to collect like lodgings and treasures then my character would depart in a heartbeat, and then return to the Neath at the hint of more collectables.
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