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1/28/2016
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I wish to make a certain trade with The Apicius Club's Prucurer General. I have something they may hold interest in and I expect a decent price. Problem is I have no idea when or where to meet.
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Passionario
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1/28/2016
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Hope and lacre don't mix well.
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NiteBrite
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1/28/2016
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Well at the very least I should say thanks for the heads up. You didn't have to warn us that our optimization plans were for not, but you did and that counts for something. It makes me miss the monthly change logs Adam/Flyte used to write for the FBG blog. Those were quite useful. Optimization planning is something that will always happen; it's part of our nature as engaged and highly invested/caring players. But little heads up like these do make a difference. So thank you Hannah and Chris :-)
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Hannah Flynn
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1/28/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
Lot of folks are depending on it showing up so the can sell that snow they invested in.
Everyone, it's worth remembering that we do change events from year to year. Sometimes we change the details, sometimes we restructure them radically, occasionally we retire them altogether. Don't build complex optimisation plans based on what's happened on previous years: it's a house of cards, and you might be disappointed.
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
1/28/2016
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Chris Gardiner wrote:
To reiterate what Hannah said: we don't treat De Gustibus as a regular event. Please don't count on it appearing during a particular month!
We treat it as a flexible bit of content we can release as a surprise at some point in the year.
If it's too far out though the snow will melt. Lot of folks are depending on it showing up so the can sell that snow they invested in. So it sure would be qa shame if it came too late. There's only like one maybe two weeks left before that happens. Like, if it's not going to happen in that time frame, it would be nice to know so we can convert pails to long boxes or something.
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Chris Gardiner
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1/28/2016
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To reiterate what Hannah said: we don't treat De Gustibus as a regular event. Please don't count on it appearing during a particular month!
We treat it as a flexible bit of content we can release as a surprise at some point in the year.
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dov
Posts: 2580
1/28/2016
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Point taken.
I think much of the expectation comes from De Gustibus buying (at least last year) Pails of So-Called Snow just before they melted. This is an option which is only relevant during a very particular timing window.
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Parelle
Posts: 1084
1/29/2016
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I missed participating last year, although I was playing every day. But I was off of both the forums and social media, so I would have missed any access code announcements.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
11/26/2016
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I hope they bring back the event as part of the main game sometime in the future rather than locking it behind twitter codes; I play the game daily, but I loathe social media so fear that I will miss out on the event if (when) it roles around again.
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
11/24/2016
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Indeed it is logical, and thus why we expected it last year. But FBG have been rather explicit in saying this event, if it ever does return (it may not), holds to no rules, may change completely, and is released on a as they feel like it surprise schedule. I'd suggest considering this event to be retired content until further notice. It was part of the A Particular Day in the Neath series of content on the past, but none of that occurred this year at all. So it's a sort of I wouldn't hold your breath, and if it does come it probably won't be what you expect type situation.
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Hannah Flynn
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Posts: 491
1/28/2016
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I would advise that this opportunity doesn't appear on a regular schedule!
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Toran
Posts: 193
1/29/2016
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I just realized this is probably related to all the new cool Sustenance items. They may be revamping to take into account the large number of otherwise useless "food" items that have been introduced. Which would be awesome.
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Nigel Overstreet
Posts: 1220
1/29/2016
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NiteBrite wrote:
I can only speak to the past version of this event, but historically for the last two years in a row it showed up as an access code from the FBG twitter/facebook on the last couple days of January. I thought that was only last year. I thought the year before it was in late spring along with the rest of the weekly promo codes they were doing for a while.
Or am I getting my years mixed up?
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NiteBrite
Posts: 1019
1/29/2016
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Ah I see where the confusion lies: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Snickerer?fromEchoId=3211617
As you can see from the link above, yes De Gustibus did show up on the 24th of February 2014. But that's the text for selling a pail. This means that pails were still around in February of 2014. Pails melted for the first time ever in February 2015.
So I was right that De Gustibus purchased pails two years in a row, but I was wrong in thinking that the dates were consistent. Considering the 2015 De Gustibus date move coincided with the mechanics change to make pails melt, it wasn't too much of a logical leap to assume that the De Gustibus date was moved -because- pails were going to melt. Ah well.
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Puutuulion
Posts: 26
2/1/2016
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TtH just melted my buckets. Don't bother saving for De Gustibus.
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A B Nile
Posts: 414
2/2/2016
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Puutuulion wrote:
TtH just melted my buckets. Don't bother saving for De Gustibus.
Appreciate the tip, as Time is due for me this evening. Just fed my last three buckets to a Boar. What's the cap on that option incidentally? I went from PtPT 10 to 13 with no problems.
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Rupho Schartenhauer
Posts: 787
2/2/2016
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A B Nile wrote:
Just fed my last three buckets to a Boar. What's the cap on that option incidentally? I went from PtPT 10 to 13 with no problems.
The highest you can reach via that option is 16.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
11/23/2016
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If anything, I'd expect De Gustibus would appear after Sacksmas finished, to let people sell spare pails of snow.
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Anne Auclair
Posts: 2215
11/23/2016
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I don't particularly care when it appears, I would just like for it to appear. I joined FL in the fall of 2015 and I haven't experienced it yet and I would really like to ^_^
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Baron Lagavulin
Posts: 27
11/28/2016
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Koenig wrote:
I hope they bring back the event as part of the main game sometime in the future rather than locking it behind twitter codes; I play the game daily, but I loathe social media so fear that I will miss out on the event if (when) it roles around again.
This. I don't get why we SANE people that don't use Twitter or Facebook have to miss out on things.
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Theus
Posts: 311
11/28/2016
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Baron Lagavulin wrote:
This. I don't get why we SANE people that don't use Twitter or Facebook have to miss out on things.
Part of the original rationale was to promote the social media platforms as the place to go for official communications. They are free to use (on both sides) and light on time/expertise investment (on both sides). This just means that if you want to use the codes, when you load up FL in the morning, also hit twitter.com/echobazaar to get the code. This is what I did to stay up to date. No need for a profile, login, etc.
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dov
Posts: 2580
1/29/2016
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Nigel Overstreet wrote:
NiteBrite wrote:
I can only speak to the past version of this event, but historically for the last two years in a row it showed up as an access code from the FBG twitter/facebook on the last couple days of January. I thought that was only last year. I thought the year before it was in late spring along with the rest of the weekly promo codes they were doing for a while.
Or am I getting my years mixed up? That's how I remember it also.
EDIT: Ah, found one reference to the original (February 24th, 2014):
https://twitter.com/EchoBazaar/status/437963103289241600
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Guest
1/29/2016
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Well, last year I was offline on January-March. Missed the Rose feast too. No matter what the decision is for this event, should it go forward whenever it does, I do hope it is posted here in this thread as well. (But since I logged in here instead of Twitter first, I guess I don't have to check if I missed it there.)
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Sara Hysaro
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1/28/2016
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Well, a Direful Reflection or two is still a good prize for something I got for just an action. I admit that I was looking forward to getting 50 echoes each for them, but if that's not meant to be then that's alright.
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PageofCups
Posts: 25
1/28/2016
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Guess I'll be making one last visit to the wicket in a few hours.
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genesis
Posts: 924
1/28/2016
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Hannah Flynn wrote:
I would advise that this opportunity doesn't appear on a regular schedule!
Hi, Hannah. I am not sure if this is intentional but of the reasons for the timing confusion is because the storylet text suggest the "second monday of the month". I realise that this doesn't have to match the real world calendar but perhaps some slight massaging of the text might clear any possible confusion?
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Spht
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1/28/2016
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Hannah Flynn wrote:
NiteBrite wrote:
Lot of folks are depending on it showing up so the can sell that snow they invested in.
Everyone, it's worth remembering that we do change events from year to year. Sometimes we change the details, sometimes we restructure them radically, occasionally we retire them altogether. Don't build complex optimisation plans based on what's happened on previous years: it's a house of cards, and you might be disappointed.
Sure, it's a dynamic game, past returns are never a guarantee of future performance. But the in game message is only "Any Pails of So-Called Snow you possess will melt next week.". Not that and "Use them quickly!" or something else to warn that things may change from last year.
So I'm probably going to white-knuckle (ba-dum-bump) my buckets until a tiny bit closer to my TtH tomorrow before using them instead of them melting as it sure seems like I won't be able to sell this year. Which I personally dislike because I didn't see anything new in the WIcket to buy and already just saved my naturally generated pails. But it's not the end of the neath either.
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Optimatum
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1/29/2016
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Anyone with spare buckets and no particular use could try dumping them in the river for potential PtPT: The Drownies gain. Which would be especially good for anyone at level three to do as we don't know if it caps there.
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Erika
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1/29/2016
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Optimatum wrote:
Anyone with spare buckets and no particular use could try dumping them in the river for potential PtPT: The Drownies gain. Which would be especially good for anyone at level three to do as we don't know if it caps there.
Seven buckets later and I can tell you "Putting the Pieces Together: the Taste of Lacre hasn't changed, because it's higher than 4" wait, what? Taste of Lacre hasn't changed? There's *another* alt success on dumping buckets?
EDIT: wait, nevermind
I accidentally did one wrong option once, damn. Well. I dumped eight buckets into the river and I didn't get the rare/alt succes once. Ouch.
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Cocytus
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1/29/2016
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For anyone upset by this, I'd like to point out that The Catafalquerie in the Nadir is a good use of spare buckets, provided you have the ability to get Taste to 7 beforehand.
Edit: Feex, according to the correction below. I'll point out that it's good to have a spare point of Taste anyway, as you'll need one if you have a reason to huff Tears.
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Koenig
Posts: 466
1/29/2016
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I don't remember having to use an access code last year to take part in the event.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
1/29/2016
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Hannah and Chris, if De Gustibus won't be showing up at the time we expected, will it at least appear sometime in the relatively near future? I and many others have been planning on exchanging certain Vials for Books.
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Scienceandponies
Posts: 247
11/30/2016
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I just want some way to unload these fish.
Also wouldn't mind some alternate means to acquire a certain book, though I suppose the vial I would normally trade for it does look rather fetching on the shelf all on its own.
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Optimatum
Posts: 3666
11/24/2016
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MrBurnside wrote:
Optimatum wrote:
If anything, I'd expect De Gustibus would appear after Sacksmas finished, to let people sell spare pails of snow.
But that's exactly what people expected. For De Gustibus to appear after Sacksmas finished, to let people sell spare pails of snow.
To quote Shatner: "It hasn't happened yet."
My point isn't that it will appear then; rather that it would be the most logical time if it were to return. Both previous times of De Gustibus were after Sacksmas and let players sell spare snow, though the first came in March as snow melting wasn't implemented that year.
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dov
Posts: 2580
11/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Can those of us who missed it completely have some echoes? ^_^
The details are on the wiki (at least how it played out the last time, in January 2015).
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dov
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11/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Well, of course. But I want text though.
What text do you feel is missing?
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Baron Lagavulin
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11/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Can those of us who missed it completely have some echoes? ^_^
This. ^ But I mean money. 
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11/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
The wiki never has the full text - at least it's not supposed to.
The wiki has the text. If it's longer than 250 characters then it is trimmed (and it's indicated by explicit use of [...], so you know something was cut out).
In De Gustibus's case, there's hardly any text - often just one short sentence. It's all on the wiki.
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