 Anne Auclair Posts: 2215
1/24/2016
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Heart's Desire is a fairly unique ambition in that it promises a very vague and subjective payout if you succeed (and seeing what you're up against, you might not succeed). So, assuming success is in fact possible to win the Marvelous, what is your character's Heart Desire? What hope is driving them to seek out such a high stakes game against such unbelievably challenging opponents? How would you represent it in game mechanics? An item? A residence? A companion? A special story? Something else?
If your character's Heart's Desire is simply to play the Marvelous for the sake of playing the Marvelous, then say that. Sometimes the game is its own reward.
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 Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220
1/25/2016
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I have absolutely no idea what my Heart's Desire is. That's why I'm pursuing the Marvelous. I'm hoping by winning it, it will reveal what it is.
-- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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 Gonen Posts: 817
1/25/2016
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To be in the writing staff.
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Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness.
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 zhirzzh Posts: 26
1/25/2016
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Originally it was cider. At this point it's mostly the desire to hang out with the monkey.
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 th8827 Posts: 823
1/25/2016
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My Heart's Desire is a set of Master's Robes that I can wear whenever I want.
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Gone NORTH. It's nice here.
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 ExcArc Posts: 44
6/24/2016
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A large number of women (and a few men) in various states of undress.
My desires are simple but profound.
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 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
1/25/2016
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Gonen wrote:
To be in the writing staff.
I think that's the End goal of SMEN.
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
1/25/2016
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What an interesting topic!
Although my main character is a Vake-hunter, my seldom-used alternate character has the Heart's Desire ambition. An avid butterfly collector, he is trying to attain a particular specimen he has been attempting to get his hands on for most of his life...and so far has been unsuccessful, sometimes humiliatingly so.
Or at least, that's what he tells himself.
It may be that his real heart's desire is the return of his ugly little henchman, who has been his only companion for much of his long and empty life, the only one to show him genuine loyalty, and the closest thing he has to a friend. Said henchman is now working for a rival. If this is indeed his actual heart's desire, however, he cannot admit it to himself. He believes he is after the butterfly.
The sad thing is that, in the latter case, there is really no need for mystical, soul-staking card games. If he just ASKED the henchman to return, the guy almost certainly would, and the rival (who is not without compassion) would probably allow it. But he can't even admit to himself that he misses his friend.
If he did win and the game actually does give you what you're seeking (and doesn't instead put you on a fat-free diet because that's your actual HEART'S desire, or some other bait-and-switch technique :P ), then I suppose either outcome would be easy enough to represent in-game. Either an item, to be attractively displayed on the mantelpiece (the butterfly) or a companion (the henchman).
Definitely interested to see what other characters are playing for.
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 Estelle Knoht Posts: 1751
1/25/2016
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I think people are too hasty. It's a gamble. You don't go in and expect to win for sure.
Just a hunch, but I feel like the player will end up being in a Kingmaker situation and gets to decide who can win and get their Heart's Desire (but not the player themselves).
-- Estelle Knoht, a juvenile, unreliable and respectable lady. I currently do not accept any catbox, cider, suppers, calling cards or proteges.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
1/25/2016
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The one thing you can't trade for your heart's desire is your heart: MEMORY by Lois McMaster Bujold This is the ambition I picked, and I'm still not sure quite why. And I chose before I read that quotation - which is the crux book of a most excellent series, by the way. I've not developed much of a character and I'm beholden to none other except myself in keeping my choices "straight".
I think, I think, my heart's desire is to find who I am. And so if I do, I won't find it at the gaming table because some one else can't give it to me. I can learn it on the way though, and I think having this goal is helping.
But I'm still curious. And that's enough to drive me towards the Marvelous. So perhaps it's fulfilling my curiousity to play, which is my stake then - but should - if - when? - I win, I think I'd like the chance to grant the Topsy King his sanity back. Because of all the others involved he's come to the most harm and is most in need of mercy. And I'd like to think I myself (as both character and player) could be both generous and willing enough to do that. It'll be fighting my own desire for wealth and advancement though. So I won't promise that will happen.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
6/24/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
But what did they bet? What are they gambling? Poor Mr. Bagley lost what was left of his sanity.
(( If it does turn out to be a Kingmaker's scenario, then it's best to help either the poor sweet librettist or the poor sweet clergyman.)) edited by Bertrand Leonidas Poole on 6/23/2016
Ah. Now that is a good question. I suppose it's also a question - who won the last game and didn't forfeit their stake? Or maybe Mr. Bagley only had forfeit that because he could not otherwise pay the stake - everyone else is putting up coinage and amber.
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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[1].png) Emain Ablach Posts: 348
1/25/2016
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My character wants To Know. He seeks knowledge, he wants to understand. His Heart's Desire probably lies where it's too cold even for gods.
-- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him.
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 Psyche Labyrinth Posts: 159
1/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Just realized there's another possibility. Your Heart Desire might be too great for the game to give it to you. Your Heat's Desire could be to see your destiny fulfilled. But winning the game could potentially give you something that will help make it possible in the long term. A special reward depending on your destiny would be rather fun. That sounds hard but at least somewhat dable. It's a really cool idea!  They could also give a few generic choices to choose from at the very end. Things like wealth, power, love, etc. and then give items/qualities based on those. Though who knows just how the ambition will end? Perhaps it is all a trick. edited by Psyche Labyrinth on 1/25/2016
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 CALLNXW Posts: 116
6/24/2016
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 Passionario Posts: 777
6/24/2016
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CALLNXW wrote:
[MARVELLOUS] I can imagine the monkey and the Manager playing that. The Bishop, not so much.
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 Bertrand Leonidas Poole Posts: 335
6/22/2016
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What do you think each of the players besides Tristam might have bet?
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 Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514
6/22/2016
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Same - Sara just thought it sounded interesting, and the possibility of cool prizes just gave her some extra motivation.
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome.
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 Parelle Posts: 1084
6/23/2016
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Bertrand Leonidas Poole wrote:
What do you think each of the players besides Tristam might have bet?
Spoilers including reference to information outside the main storyline of Heart's Desire [spoiler] Manager: a love once lost Bishop: a face of his own Virginia: to rule in Hell? Monkey: a soul of his own? It's been while since I've dealt with him. I'm assuming he's from the Empire of Hands? Mr Apples: to leave the bazaar[/spoiler] edited by Parelle on 6/24/2016
-- Parelle, Lady Joseph Marlen. The Singular Librarian. A Midnighter, a Player of the Marvelous. pages from a dusty bookshop: a badly updated FL changelog | Useful Guidance and Explanations
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 Lady V. Posts: 70
6/23/2016
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You know, I admit I haven't thought of it too much. Got a bit too caught up in forking over my worldly posessions just for the stingiest scrap of information pertaining to the Marvelous. It was heavily implied that the reward was a person, but...yes, I see. You are right. It could very well be something much more useful and worldly.
I suppose power wouldn't hurt. But knowledge of certain mysteries of the Neath would be worth much, much more now, wouldn't it?
-- A fox is merely a wolf who sends flowers...
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 Ami Miljkovich Posts: 98
6/23/2016
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I'm not sure Soran knows what their Heart's Desire actually is. They've had a few ideas, but none have really stuck; they've all either been things that could be obtained through work rather than magical wishes (like hidden knowledge), or else promised by their destiny (immortality and batliness). All Soran knows at this point is that it'll probably be something worth having, and they'll figure it out when they get there.
They also haven't discounted the possibility that the whole "win your heart's desire" thing might be some form of false advertising, in which case learning the truth would be a reward in itself.
-- The Secret-Hungry Bat ~ "I have my bats and my works, and endless secrets and pleasures at my disposal; what need have I of a soul?" The Dangerously-Charming Fox ~ "Let's go stab each other and then get drunk together! That's what friends do around here, right?" The Ever-Scheming Magpie ~ "All I'm after is a fresh start... And maybe a little profit on the side..." The Blood-Thirsty Moth ~ "This floor isn't red enough. I need to fix that. Come closer." Meet the families.
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 Grenem Posts: 2067
1/24/2016
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Anne Auclair wrote:
Heart's Desire is a fairly unique ambition in that it promises a very vague and subjective payout if you succeed (and seeing what you're up against, you might not succeed). So, assuming success is in fact possible to win the Marvelous, what is your character's Heart Desire? What hope is driving them to seek out such a high stakes game against such unbelievably challenging opponents? How would you represent it in game mechanics? An item? A residence? A companion? A special story? Something else?
If your character's Heart's Desire is simply to play the Marvelous for the sake of playing the Marvelous, then say that. Sometimes the game is its own reward. Mine is... true immortality, or it was when i started. now? ...mostly just for its own sake, but also for the truest forms of power. Whatever it is, it isn't omnipotent, but it is potent.
-- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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 Anne Auclair Posts: 2215
1/25/2016
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I suppose one of the challenges in providing a consequential variety of winnings would be that it could potentially eclipse the outcomes of the other three Ambitions. So I suppose that any variety would have to be mostly color. Sort of like the tattoos you can get in the Feast of the Exceptional Rose, the various ways you can enter Chimes House, the books you can have written about you in the main Shadowy storyline, and the markings you can earn (or not earn) in the fighting rings.
For example:
Although my main character is a Vake-hunter, my seldom-used alternate character has the Heart's Desire ambition. An avid butterfly collector, he is trying to attain a particular specimen he has been attempting to get his hands on for most of his life...and so far has been unsuccessful, sometimes humiliatingly so.
This could be represented by a special home comfort item representing a treasure your character has long desired and has at last found. What exactly that is being up to your imagination. edited by Anne Auclair on 1/25/2016
-- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Anne%20Auclair
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 Psyche Labyrinth Posts: 159
1/25/2016
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Gonen wrote:
To be in the writing staff. Win the game, join the writing staff, and write up my heart's desire (feel free to skip everyone else's if you want ). I'm counting on you here.
-- Neath citizen, zee captain, possible deranged serial killer... Profile Backstory Appearance Always happy to meet new people and help out where I can!
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 PJ Posts: 210
6/27/2016
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Parelle wrote:
Ah. Now that is a good question. I suppose it's also a question - who won the last game and didn't forfeit their stake? Or maybe Mr. Bagley only had forfeit that because he could not otherwise pay the stake - everyone else is putting up coinage and amber.
I like to entertain the thought that poor Mr. Bagley won the last game, gaining a deeper intimacy with the Correspondence than it was wise of him to request.
-- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Peter%20James
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