Erika
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1/20/2016
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Would anyone be interested in attempting something along the lines of the Noman's Friend Loss data thread?
Currently, there is a formula dictating how many echoes can be lost and gained from Bringing the celebtraion home on the Tower of Sparrows card::
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Currently, we also have no idea what this formula is. Considering the branch requires 40 echoes, it's possible with low watchful that you might be able to lose 40 echoes, or that with watchful 300, gain 40 echoes. We simply just don't know.
There's been an attempt to find out the formula in the comments section of the above wiki page, but the same kind of spirit that's being given to the Noman's Friend thread would really help out here.
If you want to help, the best way you could do this is just pick a level of watchful, your highest or how low you can manage with a talkative rattus faber, stick with it, post with your Watchful and change in Pennies, and edit your post if you do the card again. You could list your MW gain as well if you wanted.
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dov
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2/8/2016
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You can arrange for a Night on the Town in the Bazaar Side-Streets, and this costs (among other things) a certain amount of MW.
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Nanako
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2/17/2016
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Watchful 136+53 (189)
Mw: +24 CP
Change: -2472 pennies (-24.72 echoes)
By the way guys, you can calculate your exact Making Waves gain. Go to veilgarden, honey dens, Supply wine in exchange for honey. This gives 1CP of Making waves, and then you can hover over the MW quality in the results screen to see the exact current CP. Write it down
Then do the celebration, then go back and supply wine again, and check the new value. Subtract 1cp since you just gained 1cp from the wine.
To get the total CP, you just have to remember that the numbers are triangular. To go from rank X to rank Y, requires Ycp.
In this case i went from MW 9, with 8cp, to MW 11, with 11 cp (because it went up to rank 12 when i supplied wine afterwards)
it takes 2 more cp to get from 9.8 to 10, and then 11 cp to get from 10 to 11, and then 11 more cp after that, because thats how far i was towards 12
2+11+11 = 24cp
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The Duke of Waltham
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1/23/2016
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Do we only care about echoes, then? That's a shame; I've sometimes arranged Nights on the Town then spent them back on this, to try and increase my Making Waves. It seems that I've gained more often than lost, and I'd be interested in seeing whether we could pin down more definitively how this is determined. (The card doesn't say, after all, exactly what part of our gains is affected by high Watchful.) The only problem is that one needs to find out exactly what the increase has been; I've checked by going to the Honey-Dens of Veilgarden before and after, but I don't suppose it's something I can do all the time.
Watchful 192, lost 11.94 echoes and gained 16 CPs of Making Waves (from 9 5/10 to 11; a net loss, having spent 20 CPs for the Night on the Town).
EDIT: Is there any way to know whether one's total amount of echoes affects the result? Is it only main qualities that affect certain rewards in the game, or are there rewards that are calculated as percentages of other things, like number of items owned?
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Erika
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1/28/2016
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The Duke of Waltham wrote:
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean about connection items, but I was planning to buy a University fellowship anyway, so I did.
For example. Get 20 results when you have W220 and 1040 echoes, then buy 16 Bright Brass Skulls (Diaries of the Dead and Rookery Passwords also work) to put yourself at 40 echoes (the minimum for the branch), then when you want echoes again, selling your connection items you've only lost 4% of your liquidated wealth.
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genesis
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2/8/2016
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Worth bearing mind that some formulas use base stat while others use stat with equipment bonuses.
Watchful 199+64: +1078p, MW 18 -> 19 (1-38 CP)
Watchful 199+64: +163p, MW 20 -> 22 (23-65 CP)
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Erika
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1/23/2016
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The Duke of Waltham wrote:
Do we only care about echoes, then?
Updated the first post to include a request for MW, I thought I put something in there about MW! Sorry!
The Duke of Waltham wrote:
EDIT: Is there any way to know whether one's total amount of echoes affects the result?
It's possible, the easiest way to test this would be to do it when you've only got 40 echoes, turn all your echoes into connection items and see if you notice a difference, connection items are best because they convert 62.5>60 (or something) nicely.
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Parelle
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1/20/2016
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Ha. Luckily in all of my making waves to draw Slowcake and giving away Notablity this season I've saved up a bunch of Nights on the Town. I'll join in the record keeping when I next see it. Query: are there any result formulas which depend on Airs of London?
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RandomWalker
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1/21/2016
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For the record, Watchful 225, loss 2427.
Watchful 247, won 499
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Erika
Posts: 528
1/21/2016
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To save on confusion, I've moved all my results here.
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W181
-14.83E
W183
+6.25E
W203
-4.76E
W207
-10.12E
W209
+0.14E
W210
-16.63E
W214
-27.73E
W221
+1.04E 32MW
-16.6E 56MW
+1.19E 43MW
-18.37E 51MW
-19.9E 62MW
W239
+21.52E 38MW
W250
+13.54E
W 253
+6.24E
-24.98E
-7.48E
-1.92E
-14.01E
-12.54E
-0.05E
+17.68E
W254
+5.44E
W260
-8.86E
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edited by Cecil on 2/2/2016
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