 uglydancer Posts: 26
1/12/2016
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Spoilers(?)
After a long, long time, I have finally made it to the Cave of Nadir. On the way out I seem to have the option to interact with this Missionary and Firebrand. The only thing is, I can hardly remember them. I played their story ages ago and only recently explored the Forgotten Quarter. Would anyone give me a run down or share their opinions, please?
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 TheThirdPolice Posts: 609
1/13/2016
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You're leaving the Nadir with no memory of the events that led you there? That's perfect. I hope the team adds a "Who are these people?" option.
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 Schmidt Posts: 114
1/13/2016
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That home wrecked itself, haha
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 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
1/14/2016
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navchaa wrote:
Exactly. It seemed like a marriage of convenience at best. What home? 
Plot twist: They we're actually married in the Neath and it was a Notable wedding. However, one of them deactivated their account
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 navchaa Posts: 561
1/13/2016
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I just thought the Firebrand was ridiculously good looking and was in love with his wonderful cheek bones. The missionary was a bit too porcelain doll for my liking. Simple (and yes, airheaded) choice for me
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 Valiant Posts: 127
1/13/2016
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Missionary is a clever and deceptive schemer, as said before. I'm not sure if she's really a "missionary" - shreds of information about her past on the Surface hint at something more complex and shady. As for Firebrand... He's honest at least. And his opinion about Liberation is somewhat obscure.
[spoiler]In fist part of the story he says on few occasions 'One day we will light such a fire…' or 'But one day, we will see the fires burn low' quiet enthusiastically, but closer to Nadir, when you confront him about his connection to Missionary, he replies 'The liberation of night.' Her phrase. I wish I hadn't used it.' So... who knows. And he admitted few aggressive revolutionary acts and/or inclination to commit them together with player character.[/spoiler]
And he's clearly a huge nerd, maybe that's why he's so endearing to me
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 Saevitia Posts: 58
1/12/2016
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I seem to remember the Firebrand [spoiler]sort of off-screen "disposing of" (i.e. murdering) an urchin in lieu of payment.[/spoiler] I could be misremembering, of course, or interpreting incorrectly, but that's how I read it.
But even without that I wouldn't have sided with him. I eyerolled at him from the beginning. Him, the Jovial Contrarian, and a sack full of weights at the bottom of the zee? Sounds lovely to me
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 Pyrodinium Posts: 639
1/12/2016
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I prefer the Firebrand over the Missionary any time. At least the man will help you establish your Newspaper.
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 Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360
1/12/2016
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Both have links to the Revolutionaries, but their involvement seems a little bit borderline.
To my understanding...
The Secular Missionary is largely self interested, forceful and devious.
The Firebrand is repentant, thoughtful, and a bit of a wet blanket.
You can of course tell them both to b----r off and steal their Mourning Candles,
They both have the same Stat profile and both can be upgraded (I think for fate?) at the coming Feast of the Rose. I pretty sure you can marry whichever you picked after that, I think. (If you feel the need?)
I took the Missionary. I like the portrait art better and her brilliant title  edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/12/2016
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 uglydancer Posts: 26
1/13/2016
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Thank you, everyone, for your opinions and help. I've decided to side with the Firebrand, partly because the Missionary is too shifty (that's the wrong word for it) and I don't trust her not to betray me, and partly because, like navchaa, the Firebrand's rather attractive. Not that the Missionary isn't, she's gorgeous, but I don't trust her at all and I think the Firebrand could be more... malleable to my own agenda.
I vaguely remember that these two were married at one point.Could anyone confirm if that is fact or simply an effect of the Nadir on my memories?
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
1/13/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
dov wrote:
(maybe they still are?)
Well, now I feel quite the home-wrecker! 
I felt bad enough messing about with the Once-Dashing Smuggler... edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/13/2016
He's married??? Well, no wonder he never called me! I have half a mind to get myself exiled to the tomb colonies just so i can slap him :P
On the other hand, I never felt bad about chasing after the Firebrand, since it was pretty obvious his marriage was over (if not legally, at least in spirit)
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 Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360
1/13/2016
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I may very well be wrong, but got I the strong impression he and the Widow may once/still are a thing. Considering I'd only just made my toast to her, it felt a little two-faced. 
Wait a sec... transgressive love stories....? D--n you Masters! You got me!
In any case, what better place to set up a marriage counseling service than the Cave of Nadir? 'What ever we're we fighting about dear? I really can't remember..." 
Kukapetal wrote:
He's married??? Well, no wonder he never called me! I have half a mind to get myself exiled to the tomb colonies just so i can slap him :P
edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/13/2016
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 dov Posts: 2580
1/13/2016
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IIRC, the whole story of the Secular Missionary begins with her contacting you to help her find her lost husband.
There's no reason to feel like a home wrecker, though. It seems pretty obvious that their relationship is opportunistic at best.
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 navchaa Posts: 561
1/14/2016
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Exactly. It seemed like a marriage of convenience at best. What home?
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 dov Posts: 2580
1/13/2016
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Yes, they were married. (maybe they still are?)
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 Schmidt Posts: 114
1/12/2016
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Yeah my understanding is that the Firebrand actually believes in the revolutionary cause, where the Missionary merely works with them for profit.
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 Guest
1/12/2016
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Good catch on the Newspaper gateway option there! (We'll debate the Newspaper's viability in another thread another day.)
Here is the branching option when you can choose the one, the other or the two selections that leave them both/tell them to shove it. Should you not burn them both and choose one as a Companion, while they can (with fate) get enough Masquing to be upgraded in that Feast, the Renewed Missionary and Reforged Frirebrand are not Spouses, but improved Companions only. It's coming up on two years and this has neither changed nor any announcement of it changing has been made to them becoming Spouses done.
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 navchaa Posts: 561
1/19/2016
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Oooh, the Once-Dashing Smuggler is even dishier than the Firebrand. I was all over him and then one mis-step and he was gone. My heart, my heart!
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 GamerGallade Posts: 92
1/15/2016
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I currently have a card in my hand for the secular missionary ten, but it also requires the rev. Fireband ten, which I am one off of. Is it worthwhile to keep said card in my hand for a while?
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 navchaa Posts: 561
1/15/2016
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Honestly, it depends on how large your hand is. I'd keep it if there's nothing else to keep, but if you have 3 card slots, it's not something I'd hang on to. Unless you're dead set on going to the Cave and have everything ready?
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 uglydancer Posts: 26
1/15/2016
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Charlotte_de_Witte wrote:
dov wrote:
(maybe they still are?)
Well, now I feel quite the home-wrecker! 
I felt bad enough messing about with the Once-Dashing Smuggler... edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/13/2016
Wait, I'm sorry, what about the Once-Dashing Smuggler?
Damn, I seem to have a habit of going after taken people.
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 dov Posts: 2580
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From what I remember, the Firebrand is very much into advancing the Liberation of Night.
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 Kukapetal Posts: 1449
1/12/2016
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dov wrote:
From what I remember, the Firebrand is very much into advancing the Liberation of Night.
If that's the case, then there's ANOTHER good reason to keep the jerk locked up in my basement.
I gave him a mop for his birthday :P
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 Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360
1/13/2016
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dov wrote:
(maybe they still are?)
Well, now I feel quite the home-wrecker! 
I felt bad enough messing about with the Once-Dashing Smuggler... edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/13/2016
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Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you!
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