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Who are the good guys

Tyrone Posts: 79 1/12/2016	Hi I'm new to this game series, but who are the good guys to root for? Is it the police and military?
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Mordaine Barimen Posts: 670 1/12/2016	Nobody. Everyone is horrible in their own, twisted and unique, ways. Likewise almost everyone has some virtue to them, albeit often hidden and conditional. -- I'm sorry, but due to policy clarifications, I will no longer be giving detailed mechanics advice on the forums. If you still need help, try the IRC channel.
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 1/12/2016	Everyone has their own agenda. Further complicating matters, most of the factions have sub-factions, with competing agendas. For instance, 'Constables' covers both the traditional police and the secret police. 'The Docks' reaches from lowly labourers to exalted admirals. 'The Church' covers all varieties of Christian faith, from the mild to the militant. Ultimately, you have to follow your own conscience. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Saevitia Posts: 58 1/12/2016	Alternatively: You! Root for yourself and declare your choices to be always the "right" ones. It's a bit arrogant and self-absorbed, but effective. -- Saevitia's profile and appearance! [Gone NORTH] Now playing Esméralda, Saevitia's former helmswoman and moralistic Campaigner; she looks like this. I'm usually up for RP. Social actions are generally accepted; those with in-character RP invitations are most likely to be reciprocated.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/12/2016	I seem to recall them wanting me to help them murder clay men coming in on ships...that's pretty evil. I told them to f off :P
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Sara Hysaro Moderator Posts: 4514 1/12/2016	You can root for yourself, at least. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Sara%20Hysaro Please do not send SMEN, cat boxes, or Affluent Reporter requests. All other social actions are welcome. Are you a Scarlet Saint? Send a message my way to be added to the list.
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Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360 1/12/2016	The kittens! Always root for the kittens! (and the Rubbery-men of course!) edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/12/2016 -- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar." Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Charlotte%20de%20Witte
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Rupho Schartenhauer Posts: 787 1/12/2016	No, no, no, the Devils are the only good guys really! They're... terribly misunderstood, you know? -- Rupho Schartenhauer has killed a Master, well: most of it. Cortez the Killer has killed a Master, definitely. Deepdelver has become the progenitor of London's brightest star. It's... complicated. Dr. Kvirkvelia, gone NORTH on 23/12/1894.
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 1/12/2016	Me. I am. Root for me. -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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suinicide Posts: 2409 1/12/2016	What did the Docks do to be horrible? I mean, they're not really good, but I wouldn't go nearly as far as horrible. -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/profile/sunnytime A gentleman seeking the liberation of knowledge, with a penchant for violence. RIP suinicide, stuck in a well. Still has it under control.
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phryne Posts: 1351 1/12/2016	The Urchins, of course! -- Accounts: Bag a Legend • Light Fingers • Heart's Desire • Nemesis • no ambition Exceptional Stories, sorted by Season and by writer ― Favours & Renown Guide
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Emain Ablach Posts: 348 1/14/2016	Mr Eaten is the good guy. Root for the drowned man, who's been deceived. A reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely. -- Went NORTH. Got salted. Never came back. We won't remember him. https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Emain%20Ablach
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/14/2016	Emain Ablach wrote: Mr Eaten is the good guy. Root for the drowned man, who's been deceived. A reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely. I actually feel so bad for him. I wish I could help him but I know it'd be folly to try :P
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Curious Foreigner Posts: 210 1/14/2016	To get us back on track, the best guys are obviously the Dilmun Club. Immortality for everyone! -- Cochimetl went North, and beyond. No poems, only candlelight now. (Well, maybe one poem.) The Gun-Toting Gallivanter, after an extended absence, is back in London again.
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Valiant Posts: 127 1/12/2016	I guess bohemians are an ok lot. You can't count drinking and debauchery as horrible behaviour -- Sir Valiant Carrington, a heartless hedonist and honorary governor of Port Carnelian. You can ask him for a sip of Cider (here's how by an_ocelot) if you catch him in London. Farshin Jarrah, merry trickster and incorrigible optimist. Serine, gone down the well but not forgotten. Avatar artwork by lovely Farseer Drijya
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sebastian olmen Posts: 18 1/12/2016	I'm rather fond of the Masters (well some of them). Yes I know it's strange. They're each selfish monsters but the problems with their deals seem more like an honest lack of understanding of humans as opposed to maliciousness and they at least keep London running somewhat. I know they aren't good creatures but I find them entertaining and when the alternatives (at least with regards to really powerful groups) are literal demons and the Liberation of the Night I'll side with the giant space crab that's in love with part of our solar system any day. Also with regards to the Docks do they include the Dawn Machine?
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malthaussen Posts: 1060 1/12/2016	Good guys? Interesting concept. Everybody is singing songs and carrying signs. Mostly say, "Hooray for our side." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIoKr9VDg3A -- Mal -- "Of two choices, I always take the third." Will do all socials except Loitering or Private Evenings (all my Free Evenings are accounted for), and Affluent Photographer Betrayals only, please. I am not currently accepting calling cards. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/malthaussen
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Passionario Posts: 777 1/12/2016	Soft-Hearted Widow and Sinning Jenny. When it comes to organisations, C.V.R. is also kinda OK. -- Passionario: Profile, Story, Ending Passion: Profile, Appearance
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Grenem Posts: 2067 1/13/2016	I believe the only true good is the irrigo. I know, you don't think they exist, that irrigo's a color, but that's because... you've forgotten. -- Married!:http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/takuza I will accept all social actions that do not consume free evenings- and i will provide patronage to anyone who requests it, though it will be split between all requesters. On psudeo-hiatus. Will be inactive and active and fluctuate without warning. Grinding Favors without cards: http://community.failbettergames.com/topic22266-storylet-favors-grinding.aspx
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TheThirdPolice Posts: 609 1/13/2016	Shadowcthuhlu wrote: Join the spies! We are deceitful, murderous, but classy. Sips martini. In reality, most of the spies seem more concerned with the Above world's game, then with inner politics of Fallen London. Though there is the foreign office. Which, if I remember it correctly, is just weird but not more evil then anyone else. I don't know, I met another dashing spy who drank martinis, but things got weird when he showed me his scars and tried to throw me down a well. 007 was the number. -- Excessive Corpse & Tender to Irreal Ravens Lover of Flawed Souls And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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Diptych Administrator Posts: 3493 1/12/2016	The question of the strikebreakers is a tricky one. It's not the Clay Men's fault that they're being used as scabs, but good intentions don't put bread on the dockers' tables. At the same time, the Masters aren't importing Clay Men for any selfless reason - only because they're easier to exploit than human workers. -- Sir Frederick, the Libertarian Esotericist. Lord Hubris, the Bloody Baron. Juniper Brown, the Ill-Fated Orphan. Esther Ellis-Hall, the Fashionable Fabian.
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Guest 1/12/2016	(the truthseeker) If you want to not feel any guilt I suggest getting rid of your soul. Be important and make the price count! Then it won't bother you everybody is corrupting everything for their own means. Except me. But I do horrible thins just to keep the city from being lost. You wouldn't understand. You haven't seen what they will do to Paris....
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Kittenpox Posts: 869 1/15/2016	Tyrone wrote: Hi I'm new to this game series, but who are the good guys to root for? Is it the police and military? I'm rather fond of the Bohemians, myself, and have been ever since I began playing. They're just out to have a good time, and even the fall of London isn't going to stop them. But to better answer your question, everyone has their own motivations, and some factions are morally grey without being necessarily evil. Part of what I like about Fallen London is finding out for yourself who's who, and making up your own mind as you go along. (For example, my perception of the Revolutionaries has changed a few times since I began playing, and I still can't decide for certain what to make of them. ^_^ Which I think is fantastic.) -- Kittenpox Current [Fabulous Diamond] count: Twenty-Five (of 50). Halfway there! ^_^ Metaphysical Caprice: 11. - Currently: Returned to the Neath, and regaining my footing in this place. :-) NO PLANT BATTLES PLEASE.
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GamerGallade Posts: 92 1/15/2016	If I were you, I would befriend the tomb colonists. Anyone else agree? dead silence ok, I guess nobody else likes them, but still, give it a shot. Just avoid the ones without bandages, they're only there for scandal. -- Welcome to Fallen Pun-don! I just noticed if you try to record "why is it so easy to get lost in Fallen London?" The title changes to "What are they trying to hide?"
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Shadowcthuhlu Posts: 1557 1/14/2016	I love you all for that. Society seems to be mostly self-centered, but not plotting any great and terrible plans. What are people's feelings on the Duchess? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Dirae%20Erinyes. Closed to calling cards, but open for all other social action. I also love to roleplay.
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Hobnail Posts: 179 1/17/2016	Emain Ablach wrote: Mr Eaten is the good guy. Root for the drowned man, who's been deceived. A reckoning will not be postponed indefinitely. JUSTICE -- http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Hobnail
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/12/2016	John Savage wrote: Ma'am.... I would never think to send you to the Boatman. I assure you. You'd better not. He bores me to tears :P
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 1/13/2016	It's hard to say what's, or who's "good" in Fallen London because it's hard to say what outcomes really are "good". However, I think the Clay Men and the cats (esp. the kittens) are the most innocent and have had the most wrong done to them, followed closely by the Rattus Faber and the Urchins. So those tend to be the folk I "root" for, other than myself of course. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Catherine Raymond Posts: 2518 1/13/2016	Rupho Schartenhauer wrote: No, no, no, the Devils are the only good guys really! They're... terribly misunderstood, you know? The Devils aren't "good" in any conventional sense but they're straightforward. Because everyone knows what they want, it's easy to deal with them if you keep your wits about you, and I respect that. -- Cathy Raymond http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/cathyr19355 Catherine Raymond aka Mrs. Rykar Malkus http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Catherine%20Raymond (Gone NORTH)
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Shadowcthuhlu Posts: 1557 1/13/2016	Join the spies! We are deceitful, murderous, but classy. Sips martini. In reality, most of the spies seem more concerned with the Above world's game, then with inner politics of Fallen London. Though there is the foreign office. Which, if I remember it correctly, is just weird but not more evil then anyone else. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Dirae%20Erinyes. Closed to calling cards, but open for all other social action. I also love to roleplay.
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TheThirdPolice Posts: 609 1/12/2016	sebastian olmen wrote: I'm rather fond of the Masters (well some of them). Yes I know it's strange. They're each selfish monsters but the problems with their deals seem more like an honest lack of understanding of humans as opposed to maliciousness and they at least keep London running somewhat. I know they aren't good creatures but I find them entertaining and when the alternatives (at least with regards to really powerful groups) are literal demons and the Liberation of the Night I'll side with the giant space crab that's in love with part of our solar system any day. Also with regards to the Docks do they include the Dawn Machine? The Masters can be quite different from each other, and have differing opinions on the space crab. Some of them are trying to leave London as soon as possible, bringing the next city crashing murderously down on all our heads. One of them has Surfacers murdered to lure people into the Neath. Another prefers to murder people directly, and probably eat them. The Connected: Docks quality seems to represent the sailors and dock workers; the admiralty barely appears in Fallen London. [spoiler]The Navy did create the Dawn Machine, but for the most part its builder-worshippers have defected from London.[/spoiler] -- Excessive Corpse & Tender to Irreal Ravens Lover of Flawed Souls And with especial pride, Worst Screwup of the Decade!
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Josiah Thimblerig Posts: 52 1/12/2016	I intend that history will record that my side was the right one. -- http://fallenlondon.com/Profile/Josiah%20Thimblerig
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/13/2016	Tyrone wrote: Yes the Navy and its remnants seem good Didn't they [spoiler] try to kill the Wry Functionary? [/spoiler]
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SouthSea Rutherby Posts: 224 1/13/2016	Keep in mind no faction is made up entirely of "good" guys -- just like in our own reality. Arguably almost every faction has someone good in it. Personally, I really like the constable who tips his hat to you after telling you to stay consistent. -- Now the proud captain of Mr. Eaten's Revenge
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/12/2016	John Savage wrote: Does John Henry ring a bell? Labourers must bond together! There's a difference between that and outright murder
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John Savage Posts: 198 1/12/2016	suinicide wrote: What did the Docks do to be horrible? I mean, they're not really good, but I wouldn't go nearly as far as horrible. I'm with suincide here... well Mr. Savage is for sure. The dockers are toiling for the gain of others, yet all they hear about is the pain of the tomb-colonists as they head out... fie, I say! -- If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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Tyrone Posts: 79 1/14/2016	Most spies don't know they are spies, just people who got paid some change to listen to something and then report it to someone.
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Kukapetal Posts: 1449 1/15/2016	GamerGallade wrote: If I were you, I would befriend the tomb colonists. Anyone else agree? dead silence ok, I guess nobody else likes them, but still, give it a shot. Just avoid the ones without bandages, they're only there for scandal. I like them! They're fun to hang out with when you get yourself exiled
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John Savage Posts: 198 1/15/2016	Some are in Her Enduring Majesty's Secret Service? -- If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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Psyche Labyrinth Posts: 159 1/17/2016	Trust me, the revolutionaries are the only good ones here. They want to liberate you! Just give in.. don't fight it... if you don't, all shall be well... edited by Psyche Labyrinth on 1/17/2016 -- Neath citizen, zee captain, possible deranged serial killer... Profile Backstory Appearance Always happy to meet new people and help out where I can!
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John Savage Posts: 198 1/12/2016	Charlotte_de_Witte wrote: The kittens! Always root for the kittens! (and the Rubbery-men of course!) I root for the Rubberies, of course.... but I can't help but use them for my gain. Sad that edited by John Savage on 1/12/2016 -- If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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John Savage Posts: 198 1/12/2016	Charlotte_de_Witte wrote: The kittens! Always root for the kittens! (and the Rubbery-men of course!) And I named my Parabolean Kitten "Sparkles." So I hope that suits you. edited by John Savage on 1/12/2016 -- If at first you don't succeed, shoot it again. http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/John~Savage Scandal and suspicion! Suspicion and scandal! I miss the old days when only blood mattered.
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Guest 1/12/2016	phryne wrote: The Urchins, of course! a back--slap from Nobby and your purse is even fully intact afterward!
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Tyrone Posts: 79 1/12/2016	Yes the Navy and its remnants seem good
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Guest 1/13/2016	TheThirdPolice wrote: One of them has Surfacers murdered to lure people into the Neath. [spoiler] Actually, it's two of them...wait, nope, it's just one of them again!. [/spoiler]
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Nigel Overstreet Posts: 1220 1/13/2016	Tyrone wrote: Yes the Navy and its remnants seem good REJECT THE DAWN MACHINE!!! -- The Romantic Egotist: Most Hedonistic Man in All of Fallen London Are you or someone you know Overgoated? Please, let me know! Cider Club
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Pyrodinium Posts: 639 1/13/2016	Join the services of the Gracious Widow. I mean it's even in her name! Of course the lady and her faction is good. She also got booze. What more can you ask for? -- My profiles: http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Pyrodinium (A Monster hunter on the hunt of his twin brother's killer. Overprotective dad of his twin's daughter) http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Rudolph~of~Taured (an indeterminate person of potentially rubbery lineage) * All social actions except photographers and loitering welcome!
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Shadowcthuhlu Posts: 1557 1/14/2016	TheThirdPolice wrote: Shadowcthuhlu wrote: Join the spies! We are deceitful, murderous, but classy. Sips martini. In reality, most of the spies seem more concerned with the Above world's game, then with inner politics of Fallen London. Though there is the foreign office. Which, if I remember it correctly, is just weird but not more evil then anyone else. I don't know, I met another dashing spy who drank martinis, but things got weird when he showed me his scars and tried to throw me down a well. 007 was the number. I know him. That guy is the _worst_. I assure you, the rest of us do not go around making things weird by showing others our scars. And we don't use wells - G-d knows what lives in them down here. -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Dirae%20Erinyes. Closed to calling cards, but open for all other social action. I also love to roleplay.
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Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360 1/14/2016	Really!? Out of all the spies in London I had heard that one was the best? Shadowcthuhlu wrote: TheThirdPolice wrote: Shadowcthuhlu wrote: Join the spies! We are deceitful, murderous, but classy. Sips martini. In reality, most of the spies seem more concerned with the Above world's game, then with inner politics of Fallen London. Though there is the foreign office. Which, if I remember it correctly, is just weird but not more evil then anyone else. I don't know, I met another dashing spy who drank martinis, but things got weird when he showed me his scars and tried to throw me down a well. 007 was the number. I know him. That guy is the _worst_. I assure you, the rest of us do not go around making things weird by showing others our scars. And we don't use wells - G-d knows what lives in them down here. edited by Charlotte_de_Witte on 1/14/2016 -- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar." Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Charlotte%20de%20Witte
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Shadowcthuhlu Posts: 1557 1/14/2016	That's just his P.R. team. Would you expect the best spy to go around with the same handle all the time? -- https://www.fallenlondon.com/profile/Dirae%20Erinyes. Closed to calling cards, but open for all other social action. I also love to roleplay.
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Charlotte_de_Witte Posts: 360 1/14/2016	Well, personal opinions will always vary. I suppose I'll just have to live an let die... Shadowcthuhlu wrote: That's just his P.R. team. Would you expect the best spy to go around with the same handle all the time? -- "Do one thing for me, Sredni Vashtar." Social actions welcome. Only, send me dupes if you need help with the Affluent Photographer please, I like the bats! [And boxed kitties, and extreme gardening]- Thank-you! http://fallenlondon.storynexus.com/Profile/Charlotte%20de%20Witte
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Guest 1/14/2016	Charlotte_de_Witte wrote: Well, personal opinions will always vary. I suppose I'll just have to live an let die... (the truthseeker) Balderdash! He had the NERVE to tell the Fallen London Great Game participants You Only Live TWICE?! While in the Casino Royale?! He was immediately "recalled," debriefed, and deported on a Moonraker brand Thunderball to Russia, with Love. I'm sorry, I can confirm neither the existence of any alleged Agency personnel with the codename of "Q," nor if it is a Rattus Faber. edited by the truthseeker on 1/14/2016
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